The XR3 gets a top speed of around 85 mph. I assume this speed is a
combination of diesel & electric. When the batteries run out, the top
speed would be on diesel only. I would like to know what this top
speed is on diesel only. I also wonder what speed the listed 125mpg on
diesel was for. This seems more & more like a town car and nothing to
get out on the freeways, where you will be driving at 55 mph or so
with cars driving past st 75+ mph. I don't think any one here has all
this info, but just wanted to add some Food for Thought.

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "asp_guy2001" <asp_guy2001@...> wrote:
>
> Well, at least we finally see a teaser construction photo:
> http://www.rqriley.com/images/xr3-chassis.jpg
> <http://www.rqriley.com/images/xr3-chassis.jpg>
>
Apparently he's still cooking!

'Recon

This is hardly a shock.  I note that the RQRiley.com website now says
the projected release date for the plans is April.

I wonder what the hold up is.  I hope it's not Riley's health.

'Recon

Stan,

I find it interesting to look at the projects whose plans he now sells
and try to assemble a narrative from them.

The XR3 excites me because I think it is the culmination of a life long
quest (with dang few resourcees) for an alternative to our heavy metal
cars.

The trimagnum is clearly a fun hit with it's builders, a great mileage
hit, but with more possible and comfort still lacking.  With the XR3 if
he meets the promise, much more could happen.

I'm concerned about Riley's age because I've been reading his project
plans for much of my life and I'm 60.  I'm guessing he may be
approaching 80.

I just hope he gets the plans done and published.  If he gets so far as
the body and chassis kits, Wow.

'Recon


--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "stan koprowski" <stankoprowski@...>
wrote:
>
> As with all of Robert Q. Riley's projects I find the XR3 interesting
> but I would be cautious in dealing with someone who is repeatedly
> unable to meet their comitments. Bad planning. Bad business.
>
> Stan
>
>
> --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "e_recon" <e_recon@> wrote:
> >
> > I tried to post this yesterday, but I see it hasn't added in.
Riley's
> > site now says plans expected in April.  I hope he is in good health.
> >
> > 'Recon
> >
>

As with all of Robert Q. Riley's projects I find the XR3 interesting
but I would be cautious in dealing with someone who is repeatedly
unable to meet their comitments. Bad planning. Bad business.

Stan


--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "e_recon" <e_recon@...> wrote:
>
> I tried to post this yesterday, but I see it hasn't added in.  Riley's
> site now says plans expected in April.  I hope he is in good health.
>
> 'Recon
>

I tried to post this yesterday, but I see it hasn't added in.  Riley's
site now says plans expected in April.  I hope he is in good health.

'Recon

I would have thought that Riley would have some new promotional stuff
right now, touting his February release, if he expected to be on
time.  I haven't thought to look.  I wonder how old he is?  He's been
doing this stuff for a long time.

'Recon

Hi all,

I recently joined this group.  I was wondering does anybody think the
plans are going to be available in February or do you think it may be
delayed again?  I sure hope not.

Mike

Dan & Recon,

Neat! I'm convinced on the engine! Now what can you guys tell me about
the Batteries and the electric motor  :-)

Cal


--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "e_recon" <e_recon@...> wrote:
>
> Great find, Dan.
>
> Thank you.
>
> 'Recon
>
> --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@> wrote:
> >
> > Gotta love google... first try:
> >
> > http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-278.html
> >
> >
> > On 11/6/06, Dan Garcia <xadvocate@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would go by the specs on the second link, but this Kubota D902
> series is
> > > what will be used.
> > >
> > > On 11/6/06, asp_guy2001 <asp_guy2001@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dan,
> > > >
> > > > When I click on this link it leads me to a D902E G445 engine
> with 20.6
> > > > HP @ 3,200 RPM.  The D902E G445 doesn't appear to have a turbo
> either...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to quibble but, is this the same engine as in the
> PowerPoint
> > > > slides?
> > > >
> > > > Cal
> > > >
> > > > --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dieselenginemotor.com/diesel/engines/256,1.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I found one of my links.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/3/06, Dan Garcia <xadvocate@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a website, it was posted by Riley himself, I can't
> remember the
> > > > model
> > > > > > number, but I have seen what amounts to a "beta" release
> of the
> > > > engine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  On 11/3/06, e_recon <e_recon@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The engine being used is a to be released Kubota turbo
> diesel
> > > > engine
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > meets EPA requirements, and is a much better engine
> than what
> > > > was
> > > > > > > used in
> > > > > > > > the past. I believe the baseline speed for his figures
> were at
> > > > 55mph.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan, where did you pick up this information?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'Recon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Great find, Dan.

Thank you.

'Recon

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@...> wrote:
>
> Gotta love google... first try:
>
> http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-278.html
>
>
> On 11/6/06, Dan Garcia <xadvocate@...> wrote:
> >
> > I would go by the specs on the second link, but this Kubota D902
series is
> > what will be used.
> >
> > On 11/6/06, asp_guy2001 <asp_guy2001@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > > When I click on this link it leads me to a D902E G445 engine
with 20.6
> > > HP @ 3,200 RPM.  The D902E G445 doesn't appear to have a turbo
either...
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry to quibble but, is this the same engine as in the
PowerPoint
> > > slides?
> > >
> > > Cal
> > >
> > > --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dieselenginemotor.com/diesel/engines/256,1.html
> > > >
> > > > I found one of my links.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/3/06, Dan Garcia <xadvocate@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On a website, it was posted by Riley himself, I can't
remember the
> > > model
> > > > > number, but I have seen what amounts to a "beta" release
of the
> > > engine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  On 11/3/06, e_recon <e_recon@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The engine being used is a to be released Kubota turbo
diesel
> > > engine
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > meets EPA requirements, and is a much better engine
than what
> > > was
> > > > > > used in
> > > > > > > the past. I believe the baseline speed for his figures
were at
> > > 55mph.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan, where did you pick up this information?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Recon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Dan,

When I click on this link it leads me to a D902E G445 engine with 20.6
HP @ 3,200 RPM.  The D902E G445 doesn't appear to have a turbo either...

Sorry to quibble but, is this the same engine as in the PowerPoint slides?

Cal

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.dieselenginemotor.com/diesel/engines/256,1.html
>
> I found one of my links.
>
>
> On 11/3/06, Dan Garcia <xadvocate@...> wrote:
> >
> > On a website, it was posted by Riley himself, I can't remember the
model
> > number, but I have seen what amounts to a "beta" release of the
engine.
> >
> >
> >  On 11/3/06, e_recon <e_recon@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The engine being used is a to be released Kubota turbo diesel
engine
> > > that
> > > > meets EPA requirements, and is a much better engine than what was
> > > used in
> > > > the past. I believe the baseline speed for his figures were at
55mph.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dan, where did you pick up this information?
> > >
> > > 'Recon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Garcia" <xadvocate@...> wrote:
>
> The engine being used is a to be released Kubota turbo diesel engine
that
> meets EPA requirements, and is a much better engine than what was
used in
> the past. I believe the baseline speed for his figures were at 55mph.
>

Dan, where did you pick up this information?

'Recon

Hi,

Does anyone have any idea what the projected 0-60 mph time is forecast
to be for the XR3?

Thank you.

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "e_recon" <e_recon@...> wrote:
>
> --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "asp_guy2001" <asp_guy2001@> wrote:
> >
> > First the delay in XR3 plans to February 2007...
> >
> > Now the Power Point slides at the bottom of
> http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm
> >
> > Very cool but the slides create almost as many questions as they
> answer.
> >
>
> There's an implied answer I don't like.  The power train is listed
> as a 17.5 horse diesel - a similar powerplant to that on the Riley
> design that he said got 128 mpg at 35 mph, dropping preciptiously
as
> one approached highway speeds.
>
> Though this vehicle may beat the heck out of production machines,
> it's  not going to propel you across america at anything
resembling
> 90 mpg.
>
> 'Recon
>

Correction 23 Horse.  I misread the slide the 23 HP 17.5KW

'Recon

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "asp_guy2001" <asp_guy2001@...> wrote:
>
> First the delay in XR3 plans to February 2007...
>
> Now the Power Point slides at the bottom of
http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm
>
> Very cool but the slides create almost as many questions as they
answer.
>

There's an implied answer I don't like.  The power train is listed
as a 17.5 horse diesel - a similar powerplant to that on the Riley
design that he said got 128 mpg at 35 mph, dropping preciptiously as
one approached highway speeds.

Though this vehicle may beat the heck out of production machines,
it's  not going to propel you across america at anything resembling
90 mpg.

'Recon

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "asp_guy2001" <asp_guy2001@...> wrote:
>

>
> Now the Power Point slides at the bottom of
http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm
>


Thanks.  I'd missed these.

First the delay in XR3 plans to February 2007...

Now the Power Point slides at the bottom of http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm

Very cool but the slides create almost as many questions as they answer.

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "davenevland" <davenevland@...> wrote:
>
> Are we hoping the XR3 will be FWD or RWD or do you care?  Which
would be best?
>
It seems clear to me from the plans as described on Riley's page that
it is Diesel powered to the front and electric powered to the back.
In other words it's either front wheeled, back wheeled, or all wheeled
depending on what combination of diesel, electric, or diesal electric
you are using.

'Recon

Are we hoping the XR3 will be FWD or RWD or do you care?  Which would be best?

If the "tread" measurement is the same as the track measurement, then
the tires of the XR3 are as wide as most of the Lamborghinis.  The
cabin, if it stays close to the conceptual drawings, would be about a
foot narrower.

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "e_recon" <e_recon@...> wrote:
>
> --- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "davenevland" <davenevland@> wrote:
> >
> > If I read the current specs on the XR3 correctly from Riley's page,
> there's no spec for width of
> > the front track unless the spec named "tread" is that.  The spec for
> tread is 64 inches.  If
> > that's the spec for the width of the front track, it seems awfully
> wide.  I haven't been able to
> > find a current production car or older car with a front track that
> wide.  Am I reading this
> > wrong?  If not, does anyone know another car with a front track of
> 64 inches?  What am I
> > missing?  And if you have to use the front suspension of a donor car
> how could you find an
> > axel that long?
> >
>
> I don't understand the spec either but 5 feet 4 inches seems narrower
> then the cabins of most production cars.
>
> 'Recon
>

--- In xr3car@yahoogroups.com, "davenevland" <davenevland@...> wrote:
>
> If I read the current specs on the XR3 correctly from Riley's page,
there's no spec for width of
> the front track unless the spec named "tread" is that.  The spec for
tread is 64 inches.  If
> that's the spec for the width of the front track, it seems awfully
wide.  I haven't been able to
> find a current production car or older car with a front track that
wide.  Am I reading this
> wrong?  If not, does anyone know another car with a front track of
64 inches?  What am I
> missing?  And if you have to use the front suspension of a donor car
how could you find an
> axel that long?
>

I don't understand the spec either but 5 feet 4 inches seems narrower
then the cabins of most production cars.

'Recon

If I read the current specs on the XR3 correctly from Riley's page, there's no
spec for width of
the front track unless the spec named "tread" is that.  The spec for tread is 64
inches.  If
that's the spec for the width of the front track, it seems awfully wide.  I
haven't been able to
find a current production car or older car with a front track that wide.  Am I
reading this
wrong?  If not, does anyone know another car with a front track of 64 inches? 
What am I
missing?  And if you have to use the front suspension of a donor car how could
you find an
axel that long?

This will be a blast on many levels.


As for adding content for construction, I hope to use Mini Cooper
parts, due to the wide selection and performance that is available.

Dan