Thanks for sharing your great pictures with us.  I was always partial to the
tri-colored Citations.<br><br>Mike<br>For more Edsel photos go to:  <a
href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edselmail
target=new>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edselmail</a>

Very nice photos. Good luck in finding an Edsel for yourself.Remember;"Happiness
is Driving an Edsel".

Hi Prem;<br>Welcome to the chatter box. I fell in
love with the Edsel on 9/4/57. Bought one new when I
was dating my wife. Sold it two years later(1960) and
it took me 36 years also to get another one. Best
decision I ever made. If you really like them and want to
learn a lot about them before you buy, join a local
Edsel Group. Owners will help you in knowing what to
look for.<br>If you need any help, let me
know.<br><br>Steve Johnson<br>Cal-Neva Edsels

Hi. I thought i"d take a peek. Been interested in
Edsels for some 35 years yet never owned one.
<br><br>Maybe my wife will finally give in this year. I've
created a folder called "73 Convention". You'll find some
scanned photos from the Edsel Club International
Convention held in Milwaukee in 1973. Some pretty non
restored iron featured in these pics.

Merry Christmas and  Happy Edsel New Year!

As for that matter we have been in the age of ho
hum more than ever. Is there really a difference
between the Taurus/Sable, the many many clonned GM
Products or any of the Chrysler products. For that matter
many foriegn cars look and drive just like their
American counterparts. Was following one the other day and
nowhere on that thing did it say what kind of car it was.
How embarrassing for the designers. The only bright
thing coming up for the future is you have the Pontiac
Aztec. Uglier than a south bound horse but still there
is no mistaking it. One thing is for sure. The Edsel
becomes more beautiful and current as the years go buy.
Now that's beauty.<br><br>Steve

Nice article but when did a Dodge owner step up
and buy a Plymouth? I always thought that Plymouths
were the lowest of the Chrysler cars. Along with Ford
and Chevy to comprise the so called 'Big Three'
<br>Dodges were always the next step up from a Plymouth even
if there was little difference in them, they all
shared the same engines, slant 6's, 273,318,340,383,440
etc. Similar to Ford and Mercury, the old joke was a
Mercury was just a Ford with an ashtray in the back
seats.<br>Plymouths are no more, gone the way of DeSotos and Edsels
and soon Oldsmobiles.

We are very lucky about the name of the Edsel. If
you do a little research you will quickly realize
that the "Utopian Turtletop" is one of the more tame
names considered for the Edsel. We really did luck out
the the "Edsel" since many of us still believe it
really is a tribute to Edsel Ford.<br><br>Steve

Nope, Utopian Turtletop was one of many colorful
suggestions for the name of the Edsel offered by the poet
Marianne Moore. Read all about it here:
<a href=http://vintagecars.about.com/library/weekly/aa111200a.htm?once=true&
target=new>http://vintagecars.about.com/library/weekly/aa111200a.htm?once=true&<\
/a><br><br>Jim

Hi,<br><br>I'm just really curious about the name
you chose for this club. Wasn't "Utopian Turtletop"
one of the names suggested for the Mercury Turnpike
Cruiser? I never heard of it having any connection with
Edsels. At any rate, it's fun & different, so who really
cares? I guess it was all in the "Ford Family of Fine
Cars".<br><br>Thanks for hosting this club. All these things are a
great way to enjoy the old car hobby. (And in case
anybody's interested in Nash or Rambler, please check out
our group
at<br><br><a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nashcars
target=new>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nashcars</a><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Jerr\
y K

Too bad about those seats. Of all the things to
"customize" their Edsels, that seems to be the most popular.
I have seen many an Edsel with 77 Buick seatss in
red valor to go with the blue exterior. I wonder if
he got the original seat with it.<br><br>later

I saw the thing yesterday, already sold. The guy
said he found it in a barn in Woodland I think.
Claimed the 475 motor and trans were new. How new? It was
last registered in 99.<br>It wasn't too bad but
somebody put some very ugly bucket seats in front. The guy
said he had the original bench seat.<br>Don't know
what he got for it.

In Berkley now? I met you when you lived on
Freeport Blvd. Anyway being from Sacramento you probably
know this guy. He has a bunch of old cars parked at a
house on Bradshaw Rd near Jackson Hwy. He's the guy who
has the '58 Corsair. I've only seen it as I drove by.
It looks to be a gold or tan and white color. I was
at a swap meet where I saw an ad with a picture of
it, he says it has a new motor and transmission but
needs interior. $3500 obo.

Mike;<br>I guess you could say that. It certainly
was a plain Jane. I think it would be the white that
would get to me. I've seen them with a little better
color and they look alright. Face it! Some of the 58's
that I have seen (original color) had to be the result
of a hangover or a union strike among the
painters.<br><br>In my years, it always seems that I have ended up
with that disgusting chalk blue that to this day makes
me want to puke. As luck would have it my 58 was
that color from the factory and changed before I
bought it.<br><br>later,<br><br>Steve

Matt;<br><br>Good to hear from you. Do you mean
to tell me that my 58 Ranger 4drhrdtp isn't the most
beautiful thing you ever saw? Shamu would be crushed. I
don't know of an Edsel that I didn't like. Other than
those custom jobbies that is.<br>Wait till you see
Bruce Waymire's Roundup. Absolutely
beautiful.<br><br>Take care and we'll catch ya later,<br><br>Steve

Sorry to jump in here so late in the
conversation...I'm on vacation and have less access to a computer.
Anyway, I think I am one of the odd ones out there when
it comes to desirability. For the 1958 models, I
would prefer a Pacer or a Corsair. Yep, that's
right...a Corsair! For the big series, I just think they
work so much better. Only the 2 door though. The 4
door on the big series looks awkward to me (when the
windows are up, that is.) For the small series, I prefer
the Pacer. The Pacer 4 door hardtop is probably my
favorite 4 door car ever made. I love the 1959
models...all of them. I had a '59 four door sedan, and it was
a great car. Sure I would love to own a two door
hardtop or a convertible, but my measly budget won't
allow that at this time. The 1960 models are harder for
me to judge, mostly because I have only seen a few
in person. I never want to place a judgement on the
body style of a car I haven't seen in person because
photos can make some really bad things look good and
vice versa. I guess when it comes down to it, the
Edsel I prefer the most is which ever one is looking to
join my family! If I had to pick one Edsel to have and
one alone I think I would pick a 1958 Villager or
Round-up. Great lloks, very handy to have a wagon, and
lower insurance than just about anything! HA HA. Just
my 2 cents...<br>Matt

You can read the entire article here:<br><a
href=http://www.uslink.net/~hepcats/articles2.html
target=new>http://www.uslink.net/~hepcats/articles2.html</a><br><br>Jim

I'm Edsel-less now, but have owned 2 58's and 2
59's. Always liked the 58 styling best but I agree, all
Edsels are valuable and worth saving. After all it's
over 40 years since production ended, with no revival
in sight. But who knows, Ford brought back the two
seat Bird :^)<br>Hmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe a newly styled
2003 Edsel? 8^O

You might have read an article that I wrote about
10 years ago. It was something I wrote to fill up
space in the local newsletter, but it got picked up by
others and is starting to be quoted as gospel. It was
purely an opinion piece.<br><br>I put the '59 Ranger
4-door sedan at the top of my "least desirable" list
because they are so common and so relatively bland. I
have to admit, I just bought a '59 4S about a month
ago, but am planning to sell it soon.<br><br>Anyway, I
also put the '58 Corsair on the list of "least
desirable". Why? Because I've never met someone who has
said,"I really want to own a '58 Corsair." Never. You
either want a simple, basic (and cleanly styled) Ranger,
or a more highly trimmed and appointed Pacer, or a
fully-loaded Citation. Or, you want a wagon - usually a
Bermuda, but Villagers and Roundups have their fans also.
'58 Corsairs just aren't that popular - and they
weren't that popular when new, either. They only made up
14% of '58 model year production. Unless it's a
good-to-go, cruise-in ready car, I'd be careful. I would
recommend against buying a Corsair that needs a lot of
expensive work. Shop around for a Citation instead. They're
out there.<br><br>-Jay

I only like 58's, the '59 to me is less desirable. The article I saw said that
the least desirable was any all white '59 4dr.

Mike:<br>There are no ugly Edsels. A few of us
owners are questionable though. The way I see it is if
you click with the car, go for it. A few year agao, I
thought the Corsairs of 58 were the absolute bottom.
After having seen three in our local group, I have come
to realize how beautiful they really are. We all
have our place. <br><br>I'd like to invite you to join
the Cal-Nevas in your area. We are really
different.<br><br>Steve

If it's a good deal...GO for it!<br>All Edsels are desirable!

I saw an article somewhere on the internet about
which models are the most desirable and the least. I
can't remember where it is as it was a while ago that I
saw it.<br>Anybody else seen this article?<br>The
reason I want to find out is, I know of a '58 Corsair
2dr HT that is for sale. Most of the Edsels I see are
'59 Ranger 4 dr sedans. I think that maybe this
Corsair could be a good deal.

This club needs a good dusting. No action!

Just added another pic. Under members 1958.<br>"In the Park".Hope you all
enjoy.<br>God Bless America!

Thanks for the suggestion. I have been looking through Hemmings, old car trader
and every other magazine and website known to man in search of the car.
<br><br>trail-r-boy

Try Hemmings.com.<br>Good luck!<br>Keep America Beautiful....Drive an Edsel!

Hi Everybody<br>I am new to this community and to
the world of Edsels. I am currently in the market for
a station wagon and after countless hours of
research I have narrowed down my search to a few different
models that will fill my needs and taste. The wagons
that I like are 1957-59 Mercury (All models) and a
1958 Edsel Bermuda, with the Bermuda being my #1
choise. The reason for this email is simply to spread the
word that I am in the market for that car. I am not
looking for a scrap model or a concoarse show car, I am
looking for a good driver that needs restoration. I am in
So. Calif. so to find a car in the western states
would be great, but I am open to anything. If anyone
out there knows of or hears about any Bermudas,
please contact me.<br>Thank you<br><br>Craig
Dorsey<br>Vintage Vacations<br>Antique travel trailer
restorations<br>&lt;trail-r-boy@...&gt;<br>&lt;<a
href=http://www.vintage-vacations.com&gt;
target=new>http://www.vintage-vacations.com&gt;</a>

I just added 2 old models to my collection. To view go to: <a
href=http://edsels.org target=new>http://edsels.org</a>

Just dropped more pix in "Member's 1958".<br>Thanks for the positive feedback!