Thanks for the plug Sam. When I posted this calculator a few months
ago, I got about a dozen replies saying that it was actually pretty
accurate. This is a slightly revised version based on comments that
I received and Sam's study of mileage vs temperature. (added #7 & 8,
revised values on #3)
To estimate what your average mileage might be, start with 45 mpg and
make the following eight ± adjustments:
1) Percent of trips (from cold start) less than ~10 minutes:
0%:+2, 33%:+0, 66%:-4, 100%:-8 (consider an EV)
2) Percent of time AC or defroster on:
0%:+1, 33%:+0, 66%:-1, 100%:-3
4) Percent of time spent in crawling stop'n'go traffic:
0%:+0, 33%:+1, 66%:+2, 100%:+4(consider moving)
5) Percent of time using techniques to maximize Prius mileage (i.e.
gradual start on electric, then quick acceleration on gas, then foot
off gas pedal when cruise speed obtained):
0%:+0, 33%:+1, 66%:+2, 100%:+4
6) Do you drive very aggressively? (i.e. jack rabbit starts, speed >>
average traffic speed):
No:+0, Yes:-3
7) Are your tires under inflated?: (less than 35psi front, 33psi rear)
No:+0, Yes:-2
8) How many adult equivalents does your Prius carry on average?:
1 or 2:+0, 3 or 4:-1, 5 or more:-2
Add or subtract these ±values from 45 mpg to get an idea of what
mileage you might get. Feel free to interpolate. Remember: Your
Mileage May Vary (YMMV).
I have based these factors on my 3300 miles in a Prius, plus the
polls, studies, and messages in this and the Yahoo site. Comments or
suggestions are most welcome.
My neighbor and I are both Prius owners since 8/2000. We were part of the first delivery groups in Northern CA. Mine is silver and his is aqua. We both had...
alanfink2@...
Jan 14, 2001 3:50 am
My typical commute is ~20 minutes and I'm getting ~44 mpg overall. But during Christmas week I did lots of short shopping and errand trips and was getting ~35...
mschmit@...
Jan 14, 2001 4:59 am
... Imagine if all vehicles had display-screens... Everyone would be upset about performance caused by certain conditions. The "COLD ENGINE" factor is real...
john1701a
john1701a@...
Jan 14, 2001 5:17 am
I can personally attest to the fact that this happens to ALL cars. My mother's RX300 (EPA 18/21) is getting 14-15 mpg in her daily 10 minute city commutes (it...
S. B.
altopsionic@...
Jan 14, 2001 5:52 pm
... If you have a non-hybrid vehicle with a TACHOMETER, you can actually see a contributing factor. When I would drive my Taurus in the winter, I'd see that...
john1701a
john1701a@...
Jan 14, 2001 6:08 pm
That's interesting. From my experience with the RX300, the only way to get the EPA mileage (Both city and highway 18/21) is to drive about 1/2 hour. The...
S. B.
altopsionic@...
Jan 14, 2001 6:18 pm
Your conclusions are correct, nothing is wrong with the car. Short trips have a PROFOUND lowering of mileage in the PRIUS. Prius lowers mileage INTENTIONALLY...
Sam Williams
swilliam@...
Jan 14, 2001 8:18 am
Maybe we ought to start some sort of FAQ on some of these issues. I see the same questions coming up over and over. Also, I've been reading this newsgroup...
picher@...
Jan 15, 2001 12:59 am
... We already have one. It's in the Links section of this eGroup, in a folder called "FAQ". Anytime you see a message that answers a FAQ particularly well,...
RobertSnyder@...
Jan 15, 2001 3:05 am
Thanks for the plug Sam. When I posted this calculator a few months ago, I got about a dozen replies saying that it was actually pretty accurate. This is a...
Chuck Gibson
gibsonc@...
Jan 15, 2001 2:45 pm
... I think your "mileage calculator" is great! It calculates very close to my average this winter (48.5mpg), but I'm trying to anticipate next summer's...
drdone@...
Jan 16, 2001 6:40 am
... One more question on this topic: Is it more efficient to run the A/C with the windows rolled up, or leave the A/C off and roll down the windows? I know...
Dan Johnson
danj@...
Jan 16, 2001 7:25 am
... My estimate of -3mpg if the AC is on 100% of the time (verses -0mpg for 33% of time) is based on my experience. Shortly after I got my Prius(Oct 1) we had...
Chuck Gibson
gibsonc@...
Jan 16, 2001 2:48 pm
About 40 mph seems to be the speed, below which buffeting is at an acceptable level & AC off is quite enjoyable. Pete / Naples...
Peter Blackford
pmbsab@...
Jan 16, 2001 10:58 am
... and ... I would get 52. :-) In an actual test drive, I got 55mpg. ... I don't understand this question? Doesn't stop'n'go driving waste energy? I would...
... Unlike the Insight, the Prius can drive in electric-only in stop'n'go traffic giving 100MPG+ (assuming that the battery SOC is high enough and the...
... This is a characteristic of ALL cars; it's just more evident in the Prius since the record keeping is better. As I hope you recognize, there would be no...
Peter Blackford
pmbsab@...
Jan 14, 2001 12:43 pm
I drive my car 10 km every day to my work .After eight hours come back same distance.total for last five months about 6.7 l/100 km city driving which is about...
tszukow@...
Jan 14, 2001 6:17 pm
The mileage sounds right to me. That's one of the first things I noticed when driving the car - the mileage suffers on short hops. I try to plan my little...
dhaywood@...
Jan 14, 2001 6:33 pm
Exactly. The Prius uses a unique algorithm for the display, making it more accurate (albeit less flattering) than any other I've seen. Information is a...
Peter Blackford
pmbsab@...
Jan 14, 2001 10:00 pm
pete's hit on the best solution-swap ares for a week and look at virtually EVERY item in each car to compare...this is what we ded in december and were able to...
Mark Binder
binders@...
Jan 15, 2001 1:13 am
And even when Prius is still warning up, when you get to a red light. . . the ICE stops. Even though the MPG average is still low, you are not burning gas just...
richard
rbwalton@...
Jan 15, 2001 3:14 am
Ah, you people in Northern California live such a sheltered life sometimes! :-) The ICE runs for a considerable amount of time (10 minutes) warming up for...