Phillip wrote: snip ... Not quite true. It depends on the conditions. Rubber is a highly non-linear material. In high load conditions its coefficient of...
... having ... once ... lot ... non-linear material. In ... means that when ... race bike when leaned ... the front tyre, which ... because of the small ... ...
As an engineer I say that nothing that is on sale to the public is perfect. Absolutely every part used is a compromise though some advertiser recently claimed...
Hi everyone, Here is an idea for a test of one of the most difficult situations for a tilter. One test is designed so that it finds out what the limit is...
... Looking at the photo, this idea comes to mind. Instead of 3 wheels, use 2, Look at the tilting photo, imagine a third wheel on an arm coming off the cg....
... The advantages gained by having two front wheels on a 'virtual motorcycle' (20% braking/grip improvement stated by Piaggio for MP3) are a free bonus for...
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snip ... If you put the 2 front tilting wheels in line there advantages in the wet too. There is an advantage with higher contact patch areas that I didn't...
... sense]... in reality the two front wheel arrangement seems to ends up with a lot more gyroscopic inertia[ thats what my experience is but I am waiting to...
All this talk about outriggers lately has got me wondering what everyone is thinking about. There are many other issues with them that still haven't been...
I like the title of this thread. A 2 wheeler is very efficient rolling and leaning. The steering of a 2 wheeler is simpler and lighter than a 2F1R. So for fuel...
... Hi Aaron nice post as usual. I have some experience. I made a pendulum mid wheel that attached to the upper cross arm of a two wheel front end vehicle that...
Hi Stu..... You have it. This is pure and simple an exercise in objective design prompted by simple observation.....a wheel can replace the knee... Phillip ......
... The gyroscopic effect is proportional to the polar moment of inertia of the wheels. This, for a solid disc, is proportional to the square of the radius, so...
... snip ... snip One small problem with this idea. Aaron touched on it already. If the outrigger is loaded, it must also steer or we lose lateral traction. It...
... I agree with most of what Aaron is saying. However, there are two reasons for using outriggers. One is to provide a laterally spaced track for tilt...
Hello to all, Manny happiness in new 2007. year, for all the designers, constructors, drivers and dreamers of magnificent (more or less), practical (more or...
So... if you have a CS controlled STV that has an outrigger on each side which is only loaded to 20-30 lbs via a gas strut, you still have an STV don't you?...
As usual, Mitch's comments are well thought out enough that it's difficult to add much to the conversation, but to keep from leaving him hanging out there all...
Aaron, If you'd like a good (or bad) example of the type of outrigger configuration you're describing, check out the Pulse/Litestar owners site. HYPERLINK ...
Hi everyone, Peter Vandebrink of Carver sent this message that I'm forwarding to the group. - Mitch Casto Dear Tilters, I am one of the persons involved within...
Hi everyone, outriggers are not really our groups subject. I've been slow to say anything about these posts, but there is another group that has many more...
snip ... snip ... I think you will see this was already suggested, at least a few times, over the last 10,000 messages on this list. The mechanism for doing it...
Bob, Thanks for the reply and I'll definately look the group up, but you're already confirming my feelings, not challenging them. Either your outriggers are...
thanks Arthur further comments inserted--- In ... ends up ... but I ... inertia of the wheels. This, ... it is very easy with a ... wheel. Two 10" scooter ... ...
... each side which is only loaded to 20-30 lbs via a gas strut, you still have an STV don't you? There must be some situation/s where the outrigger is loaded...
... concept. I would say that the laterally spaced front wheels on a manual countersteered TTW ...are outriggers around a virtual central single front wheel....
... Well, they merge somewhat. Honda Gyro and Ariel 3 are very close to horizontal-axle outrigger tilters. But I agree and said already that outriggers are an...
... as I read it I thought thoughts..... so I am compelled to insert them and I will be fair I hope. ... current ... Phillip here... good point about the rear...
... rather than a TTW ... Phillip here.... outriggers are a temporarily engaged low speed solution for manual countersteered vehicles... full stop. Doesn't...
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