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R.Q. Riley Tilting Human Powered Trike Interests   Message List  
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Re: [Tilting] Pedaling Lean Steer and Energy Efficiency of HPV's - Numbers of Wheels and Tilt

2009/11/6 Bob Stuart <bobstuart@...>
> However, if the snaking  frequency matches every pedal stroke, as Doug claims,
the problem is more likely caused by chain tension bending the frame and
steering the rear wheel.

Article about modifying a recumbent trike to make it stiffer and
reduce pedal steer:
http://www.bentrideronline.com/?p=2785

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Fri Nov 6, 2009 6:47 pm

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Hi everyone, R.Q. Riley has been a noted vehicle futurist for decades and along with this he has offered plans for building a variety of vehicles. He has also...
Mitch
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Nov 5, 2009
8:40 pm

I assume he means a 3- or 4-wheel vehicle: an interesting example: Alan Maurer's Tilting Trike, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJp4tU4TE4 ... Hi everyone, ...
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Nov 5, 2009
9:16 pm

Mitch, Will be interesting to see how straight this new vehicle rolls under human power. Many human power trikes "snake" down the road, wiggling back and...
Doug Milliken
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Nov 6, 2009
10:00 am

Hi Doug and group, I'm straining my brain a bit after you wrote this - ... I hadn't thought of this potential loss of efficiency. ( the things I say below are...
Mitch
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Nov 6, 2009
2:47 pm

2009/11/6 Mitch <mitchcasto@...> ... It's certainly not torque steer in the usual sense that e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_steering uses. Not...
Alan Braggins
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Nov 6, 2009
3:25 pm

Now as a daily bike rider, leaning 45 off center is not that rare. Even on the tandem, with a trusting stoker, that lean angle has been acheived, limited only...
Bequette Jeff
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Nov 6, 2009
10:40 pm

If the problem arose from the momentum of the legs trying to rotate the trike along a horizontal axis, the snaking would have the frequency of one leg. New...
Bob Stuart
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Nov 6, 2009
3:33 pm

2009/11/6 Bob Stuart <bobstuart@...> ... Article about modifying a recumbent trike to make it stiffer and reduce pedal steer: ...
Alan Braggins
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Nov 6, 2009
6:48 pm

Mitch, Mr. Riley may be interested to read about these two trikes for research purposes, which help answer some of the "to tilt or not to tilt" questions for...
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Nov 6, 2009
2:30 pm

That's easy: Just do both. You can design a non-tilter in your sleep. Heck, I have a design I'd lend you of a sweet chopper trike. Even a tilting HPV would be...
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Nov 8, 2009
11:26 pm

Cool... which one is yours? Pics? Videos?...
purplepeopledesign
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Nov 9, 2009
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Look at "GP Tilters". It's been a really long time since I built them. One's a hack and the other's original....
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garyp3000
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Nov 9, 2009
5:45 am

I checked Google, Yahoo and Metasearch and no dice. Do you have a link?...
purplepeopledesign
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Nov 9, 2009
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Sorry, I mean here in the Tilting group's photo section....
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garyp3000
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Nov 10, 2009
3:27 am

R.Q.Riley is the Man! He's one of the first ones that got me excited about this stuff. He had a great text online once about how a "well designed tilting...
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Nov 10, 2009
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