i take my my 91tconvertible to carlisle and thats about it. Most shows have a 
year cutoff, those that donr group me with the new tuner cars and my car is
basicly not looked at by spectators or other particates,



To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
From: billbuickman@...
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:54:17 +0000
Subject: Re: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?





Cool!!
Congrats,
I have some pics posted in the album, listed as "Bill and Julie"

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, charles martin <cjmrtn@...>
wrote:
>
> I showed mine at a Rag Top Rally in Eurica Springs Ar. several yrs ago. Won
1st place in age group    '94 GTC convertible, Dk green, Mustard top
>
> Â
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill <billbuickman@...>
> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:40 PM
> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?
>
> Â
> Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.
>
> My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to
buy a 1990 a couple of years later.
>
> Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles
on it, pretty white on white and all original.
>
> My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Cool!!
Congrats,
I have some pics posted in the album, listed as "Bill and Julie"

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, charles martin <cjmrtn@...>
wrote:
>
> I showed mine at a Rag Top Rally in Eurica Springs Ar. several yrs ago. Won
1st place in age group    '94 GTC convertible, Dk green, Mustard top
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill <billbuickman@...>
> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:40 PM
> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?
>
>  
> Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.
>
> My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to
buy a 1990 a couple of years later.
>
> Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles
on it, pretty white on white and all original.
>
> My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks, there is a local show I used to go too
they have a class production 1990 to 1999.
Looking forward to it :)

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, James Lusk <jimlusk@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I've been doing shows since 1981. For years I showed my 68 GTS convertible
(still have it, but it needs a restoration again) and a couple other a-bodies in
various condition (mostly under-construction). I have yet to show my LeBaron (89
TII/5sp) or my son's LeBaron (same as mine) or my wife's 95 GTC, but I have seen
a few FWD Mopars at Mopar shows with decent reaction. The turbo cars (including
the Shelbys) get the most attention, but at most Mopar shows there will be a
late-model class to fit into. Many of the all-make shows still have a cut-off
year, though.
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill <billbuickman@...>
> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 2:41:40 PM
> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?
>
>  
> Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.
>
> My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to
buy a 1990 a couple of years later.
>
> Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles
on it, pretty white on white and all original.
>
> My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

L have a  '92 Lebaron.  The bkinker lights have stopped working, Any ideas on
how to fixz/"

Harold




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I showed mine at a Rag Top Rally in Eurica Springs Ar. several yrs ago. Won 1st
place in age group    '94 GTC convertible, Dk green, Mustard top

 



________________________________
From: Bill <billbuickman@...>
To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:40 PM
Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?

 
Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.

My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to buy
a 1990 a couple of years later.

Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles on
it, pretty white on white and all original.

My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?




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Jim,
I put on Mopars at the Rock ( car and truck show ) at Rockingham drag way . It
is in Rockingham, NC
The date for the show and racing is Saturday April ,17 2010
I will be picking a couple of Mopars this year to go on next year's event
T-shirts.
It will be the twentieth anniversary 2011.
All years WELCOME. 

Thanks,

Tom Leasure

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, James Lusk <jimlusk@...> wrote:


From: James Lusk <jimlusk@...>
Subject: Re: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?
To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:08 PM


 



Bill,
I've been doing shows since 1981. For years I showed my 68 GTS convertible
(still have it, but it needs a restoration again) and a couple other a-bodies in
various condition (mostly under-construction) . I have yet to show my LeBaron
(89 TII/5sp) or my son's LeBaron (same as mine) or my wife's 95 GTC, but I have
seen a few FWD Mopars at Mopar shows with decent reaction. The turbo cars
(including the Shelbys) get the most attention, but at most Mopar shows there
will be a late-model class to fit into. Many of the all-make shows still have a
cut-off year, though.
Jim

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Bill <billbuickman@ yahoo.com>
To: thechryslerlebaronc lub@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 2:41:40 PM
Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?

 
Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.

My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to buy
a 1990 a couple of years later.

Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles on
it, pretty white on white and all original.

My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?

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Have you looked for moisture in the bulb sockets?  If all are dry, I would
consider removing all the bulbs, and then reinstalling one by one to see when/if
the fuse blows.  Of course, you would need a few fuses on hand.  I usually grab
a fistful at the junkyard when I go, for just such a purpose. Came in real handy
for diagnosing my daughter's Breeze and its fuse #8 problem (solved).

John
'89 Gtc 2.2TII A555
'98 Plymouth Breeze

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Dodd <thomasdodd@...>
wrote:
>
>
> a1992mopar wrote:
> > I put a new 20A fuse in and as soon as i turned the parking lights on it
would instanly blow the fuse, the headlights and doors for the lights work fine
though.
> >
> Short in the parking light circuit. Usually insulation has worn off a
> wire and is grounding to the body.
>
> Start checking the wires at the lights and then trace them back.
>
> Try finding where the wire from the switch splits to the front lights
> and the rear lights and disconnect one of them. Then use a multimeter to
> check the resistance between each wire and ground. One will be 0 and the
> the circuit that shorting. My guess would be th wires to the fron as
> they are more likely to rub and damage the insulation.
>
> But there is no quick fix, magic bullet sort of thing. Just takes slow
> methodical testing and inspection to find it.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> > --- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Dodd <thomasdodd@>
wrote:
> >
> >> Tail lights and parking lights are normally the same circuit.
> >> How quick does the fuse blow?
> >>
> >> As soon as you turn on the lights?
> >>
> >> Sounds like a short in the harness. Look online for some info on
troubleshooting wiring/electrical problems. You'll need a test light or
multimeter and patience. A wiring diagram would be helpful.
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@>
> >> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Electrical Issue
> >> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:51 AM
> >>
> >> I have a 1992 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible with a 1995 3.0L Engine and is
having electrical problems. The car keeps blowing the 20A tailight fuse which
controls my dash lights, tail lights and parking lights. only thing that works
is the headlights and brake lights. At night i have to drive with my hazards on
because of the missing lights. Could someone please help with this problem.
Thank you!
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Bill,
I've been doing shows since 1981. For years I showed my 68 GTS convertible
(still have it, but it needs a restoration again) and a couple other a-bodies in
various condition (mostly under-construction). I have yet to show my LeBaron (89
TII/5sp) or my son's LeBaron (same as mine) or my wife's 95 GTC, but I have seen
a few FWD Mopars at Mopar shows with decent reaction. The turbo cars (including
the Shelbys) get the most attention, but at most Mopar shows there will be a
late-model class to fit into. Many of the all-make shows still have a cut-off
year, though.
Jim




________________________________
From: Bill <billbuickman@...>
To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 2:41:40 PM
Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Car shows?

 
Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.

My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to buy
a 1990 a couple of years later.

Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles on
it, pretty white on white and all original.

My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi guys, I've been a lebaron lover for awhile now, currently on my third one.

My first one was an 82 that didn't work out so well but I liked it enough to buy
a 1990 a couple of years later.

Currently have a very clean 95 gtc convertible that I found with 87,000 miles on
it, pretty white on white and all original.

My question is, I'd love to get back into the shows, had a 55 Buick and a 63
Studebaker that I restored, do many people show their Lebarons? and if so, what
kind of reactions do you get?

At 05:37 PM 11/11/09, MilesG wrote:
>Hey guys, I have a recently acquired 95 baron GTC convertible. My
>problem is this: the window is stuck half way up, I can jiggle it
>around a bit but can't make it go all the way up OR down. The motor
>didn't whirr as if it were working when I pressed the button and I
>got current going to it.

I wrote what's below before rereading this sentence.  But how do you
know you got current going to it?  (BTW, in general it's not good to
run a motor for more than a few seconds if it's not spinning.   The
current that would be turned into motion gets turned into heat
instead, and after a while may overheat the motor.)

>  So I took off the motor part only *not the gearbox*. The gearbox
> thing is secured to this column like gold thing with three bolts
> that are in a position so that to get to them, the glass would have
> to be up. I'm not sure what usually goes in the front windows, any
> help would be wonderful! Thanks.

Do you have a volt-ohmmeter?  Have you checked the continuity of the
motor?  The resistance between the two wires that lead into it should
be less than infinity and more than zero.   Somewhere between 2 and
100 ohms.  How many is it?

Have you checked for a blown fuse?  I think the windows use a fuse
and not a circuit breaker.  If they use a circuit breaker, it usually
resets automatically after 2 or 3 minutes iirc.  5 at the most.

A short in the motor could probably cause a blown fuse or tripped
breaker.  I somewhat doubt you have such a short.  But nonetheless,
have you checked the resistance between each wire to the motor and
any metal part of the outside of the motor that might touch any other
metal parts in the door?     Or any metal part of the outside at all?

Have you checked if there is voltage coming to the wires that went to
the motor.  Now that the motor is out (and be sure it is disconnected
from the wires to the car), even if it's the driver's door window,
you should be able to plug the switches back in and pretend you're
raising, then lowering the window.  There should be about 12 or 13
volts at the two wires going to the motor, when the switch is in
either position.

Have you tried rotating the motor shaft by hand?  It should turn
pretty easily.

How many miles on the car?

Hey guys, I have a recently acquired 95 baron GTC convertible. My problem is
this: the window is stuck half way up, I can jiggle it around a bit but can't
make it go all the way up OR down. The motor didn't whirr as if it were working
when I pressed the button and I got current going to it. So I took off the motor
part only *not the gearbox*. The gearbox thing is secured to this column like
gold thing with three bolts that are in a position so that to get to them, the
glass would have to be up. I'm not sure what usually goes in the front windows,
any help would be wonderful! Thanks.

Ill try it out thank you very much for your time


--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Dodd <thomasdodd@...>
wrote:
>
>
> a1992mopar wrote:
> > I put a new 20A fuse in and as soon as i turned the parking lights on it
would instanly blow the fuse, the headlights and doors for the lights work fine
though.
> >
> Short in the parking light circuit. Usually insulation has worn off a
> wire and is grounding to the body.
>
> Start checking the wires at the lights and then trace them back.
>
> Try finding where the wire from the switch splits to the front lights
> and the rear lights and disconnect one of them. Then use a multimeter to
> check the resistance between each wire and ground. One will be 0 and the
> the circuit that shorting. My guess would be th wires to the fron as
> they are more likely to rub and damage the insulation.
>
> But there is no quick fix, magic bullet sort of thing. Just takes slow
> methodical testing and inspection to find it.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> > --- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Dodd <thomasdodd@>
wrote:
> >
> >> Tail lights and parking lights are normally the same circuit.
> >> How quick does the fuse blow?
> >>
> >> As soon as you turn on the lights?
> >>
> >> Sounds like a short in the harness. Look online for some info on
troubleshooting wiring/electrical problems. You'll need a test light or
multimeter and patience. A wiring diagram would be helpful.
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@>
> >> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Electrical Issue
> >> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:51 AM
> >>
> >> I have a 1992 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible with a 1995 3.0L Engine and is
having electrical problems. The car keeps blowing the 20A tailight fuse which
controls my dash lights, tail lights and parking lights. only thing that works
is the headlights and brake lights. At night i have to drive with my hazards on
because of the missing lights. Could someone please help with this problem.
Thank you!
> >>
> >>
> >
>

I have actually seen this on Ford products, but never on a MOPAR.
 
Anyhow, I suspect that your ignition switch has some 'carbon paths' that are not
always allowing the connections to make/break during "ON" and "START".
 
You might try a few short bursts of Radio Shack TV Tuner spray into the ignition
cylinder a few times and cycle the switch between "ON" and "ACC" a few times to
see if this fixes your problem.
 
Let us know who you make out. Take care, Bill

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, charles29433 <cjmrtn@...> wrote:


From: charles29433 <cjmrtn@...>
Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Dash lights
To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:43 AM


 



I own a 1994 GTC convertable. To turn on the dash lights I have to turn the
headlights on before I start the engine. If I start first, the headlight come on
fine but no dash lights. Once the dash lights are on the dimmer portion works
fine.
Any Ideas on how to fix it?
Thanks in advance











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At 10:43 AM 11/11/09, charles29433 wrote:
>I own a 1994 GTC convertable. To turn on the dash lights I have to
>turn the headlights on before I start the engine. If I start first,
>the headlight come on fine but no dash lights. Once the dash lights
>are on the dimmer portion works fine.
>Any Ideas on how to fix it?
>Thanks in advance


Wow, that's really weird.


What happens if you turn on the headlights before you start the car,
start the car, and later turn off the headlights?   When you turn the
hl on the second time, do the dash lights come on then?

It must be something in the switch area.  I have a '95 which also has
the jet fighter instrument panel, but I've never taken it apart.  My
guess is that the dimmer switch or part of the headlight switch is
loose, which might mean broken, but that doesn't explain why it does
work if you turn on the lights first. How did you notice that it
works that way?

I own a 1994 GTC convertable. To turn on the dash lights I have to turn the
headlights on before I start the engine. If I start first, the headlight come on
fine but no dash lights. Once the dash lights are on the dimmer portion works
fine.
Any Ideas on how to fix it?
Thanks in advance

a1992mopar wrote:
> I put a new 20A fuse in and as soon as i turned the parking lights on it would
instanly blow the fuse, the headlights and doors for the lights work fine
though.
>
Short in the parking light circuit. Usually insulation has worn off a
wire and is grounding to the body.

Start checking the wires at the lights and then trace them back.

Try finding where the wire from the switch splits to the front lights
and the rear lights and disconnect one of them. Then use a multimeter to
check the resistance between each wire and ground. One will be 0 and the
the circuit that shorting. My guess would be th wires to the fron as
they are more likely to rub and damage the insulation.

But there is no quick fix, magic bullet sort of thing. Just takes slow
methodical testing and inspection to find it.

Good luck.


> --- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Dodd <thomasdodd@...>
wrote:
>
>> Tail lights and parking lights are normally the same circuit.
>> How quick does the fuse blow?
>>
>> As soon as you turn on the lights?
>>
>> Sounds like a short in the harness. Look online for some info on
troubleshooting wiring/electrical problems. You'll need a test light or
multimeter and patience. A wiring diagram would be helpful.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@...> wrote:
>>
>> From: a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@...>
>> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Electrical Issue
>> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:51 AM
>>
>> I have a 1992 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible with a 1995 3.0L Engine and is
having electrical problems. The car keeps blowing the 20A tailight fuse which
controls my dash lights, tail lights and parking lights. only thing that works
is the headlights and brake lights. At night i have to drive with my hazards on
because of the missing lights. Could someone please help with this problem.
Thank you!
>>
>>
>

I put a new 20A fuse in and as soon as i turned the parking lights on it would
instanly blow the fuse, the headlights and doors for the lights work fine
though.

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Dodd <thomasdodd@...>
wrote:
>
> Tail lights and parking lights are normally the same circuit.
> How quick does the fuse blow?
>
> As soon as you turn on the lights?
>
> Sounds like a short in the harness. Look online for some info on
troubleshooting wiring/electrical problems. You'll need a test light or
multimeter and patience. A wiring diagram would be helpful.
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@...> wrote:
>
> From: a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@...>
> Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Electrical Issue
> To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:51 AM
>
> I have a 1992 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible with a 1995 3.0L Engine and is
having electrical problems. The car keeps blowing the 20A tailight fuse which
controls my dash lights, tail lights and parking lights. only thing that works
is the headlights and brake lights. At night i have to drive with my hazards on
because of the missing lights. Could someone please help with this problem.
Thank you!
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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At 10:31 AM 11/10/09, DOUGLAS SMITH wrote:
>Hi.  You really didn't describe the noise.

I know. I don't really know how to describe noise.   I did the best I could.


>   From your description of the
>skid and the terrain you covered you could well have crushed part of th
>exhaust system, especially the cat.  Doing so could certainly decrease your
>performance, make it run rough, or worse.  Miles made some reasonable
>suggestions, as well.

Yes he did.  For my non-list addressees,  who didn't see his post,
I'll quote it here, "You don't state what car you have, but could it
be possible that you either got mud/water into you distributor cap?
Perhaps dislodged a plug wire? This would cause the engine to run
extremely rough. Also possible is you having damaged something in
your front axle, perhaps a cv joint*although I doubt it*. Could you
tell us your engine and year and car?"

And Miles wins.  Congratulations, Miles.  (There is no tangible
prize, however. Sorry.  Nor a pretty girl to award it.)  Sunday after
bending down beside the car and after looking inside the hood, I
started to think more about how rough it was running.  I was going to
remove each spark plug wire to see which one did NOT make it run
worse.  I didn't get back outside until it was almost dark and the
only wire I could still see was the far right one in front.   I
pulled it off and it gave no resistance.  I had a flash, maybe it's
off already, so I pushed it on and the car ran fine.

I can hardly believe a bump could dislodge a spark plug wire.  And
this seems to account for why it's occasionally been running rough
lately.  I don't think I had touched the wires even once since i put
them on two years ago.  And it ran fine until recently.   This last
bump must have dislodged the wire even more.

I didn't know this was possible, so I wanted to tell you all about it.


It all makes sense now.  A four inch curb shouldn't be enough to
damage a muffler, but that's what I started to think had
happened.  But it only made more noise or seemed to because it was
struggling a bit and unevenly accelerating. .

I think now it is as quiet as it was 7 1/2 years ago when I bought
it.   (Except the top which is more wrinkled and noisy.   And it's a
'95 Lebaron V6 3.0L engine.)



>Check under the hood for mud having been thrown up
>onto the engine.  Good luck.  Doug

Thanks, Doug.  That might have been it.

Mike

>On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:42 AM, <meirman@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > At 08:40 PM 11/9/09, MilesG wrote:
> > >You don't state what car you have, but could it be possible that you
> > >either got mud/water into you distributor cap? Perhaps dislodged a
> > >plug wire? This would cause the engine to run extremely rough. Also
> > >possible is you having damaged something in your front axle, perhaps
> > >a cv joint*although I doubt it*. Could you tell us your engine and
> > >year and car?
> >
> > Sorry. It's a '95 Lebaron with a V6 3.0L engine.
> >
> >
> > >--- In
>
thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com<thechryslerlebaronclub%40yahoogroups.com>\
,
> > meirman@... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, as they say, I was on my way to a wedding last weekend in New
> > > > Jersey, and I thought I was late, and I was going around a traffic
> > > > circle in central NJ, and I thought the road wasn't very curved and
> > > > that my speed was moderate, even though it had been raining
> > > > lightly I'd been on the road for hours with no trouble. Then I
> > > > noticed I was skidding to the right, so I gave up trying to go
> > > > straight ahead and steered into the skid. First I went up a slanted
> > > > curb, then across a grassy area about 15 or 20 feet, then down
> > > > another curb into the lane for traffic from the right entering the
> > > > circle (but there wasn't any. Cross traffic was very light.) and then
> > > > on the other side of that lane, up four inches when I hit the far
> > > > curb and back onto the grass. I would have stopped, but I realized
> > > > how wet the grass and earth was and I was afraid I'd get stuck in
> > > > mud, and I was late already, so I just veered to the left, got back
> > > > on the road and kept going. I'm not sure anyone even saw what I did,
> > > > but I'm revealing to you my heretofore secret.
> > > >
> > > > Immediately the car chugged on acceleration from 4mph (and continued
> > > > to do so later both from stopped and from slow) and it made more
> > > > noise than it had.
> > > >
> > > > I figured the problem would go away (I always think that, and once
> > > > before, but only once, it had.) and anyhow, it was almost dark when
> > > > I got out of the wedding, and I stayed at a friend's in New Jersey
> > > > and drove back to Baltimore the next day. Had to be in Maryland by
> > > > 3PM so no time to check car. Still making noise, at least on
> > > > acceleration. I spent the week trying to figure out what the problem
> > > > was, mostly by thinking, not by looking.. The car was running very
> > > > rough also, at least at idle and maybe the rest of the time. I
> > > > wondered if a local shop would just patch the muffler or if they'd
> > > > insist on a new muffler, and if I could take it farther into the city
> > > > where they understood that sometimes a patch is as good as a
> > replacement.
> > > >
> > > > Sunday, I looked under the car at the rear end and at the side, but
> > > > didn't see anything or hear a really loud spot. I opened the hood,
> > > > and the exhaust pipe was in place. It would have been much louder
> > > > than it was if that pipe was damaged, so I was sure that would be
> > > > okay, but thought I might get a better view than I did of the pipes
> > > > farther back.
> > > >
> > > > So what to do next and what was the problem? What do you all
> > > > think? Who will be right? Should I call Click and Clack, or
> > > > will you know?
> > > >
> > > > Stay tuned for the answers in my next post.
> > > >

I agree as well.
I only put the forum option together for a better outline and search option for
cataloging the fixes and information (files and downloads) better.
 
I found the other groups as well, and have decidedly to not become a member of
them.
 
Jim


--- On Tue, 11/10/09, DOUGLAS SMITH <smithdougw@...> wrote:


From: DOUGLAS SMITH <smithdougw@...>
Subject: Re: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] another lebaron group
To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:23 AM


I have to agree.  Creating another LeBaron club just dilutes the impact and
effective communications that already exists.  If someone has suggestions
for improving this one, I'm sure we would all be interested in hearing them,
though.

Doug



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:13 AM, <jssmith494@...> wrote:

>
>
> I agree completely
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> >
> To: lebaron club
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> >
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:48 pm
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> hy? there are 2 already.
>
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Hi.  You really didn't describe the noise.  From your description of the
skid and the terrain you covered you could well have crushed part of th
exhaust system, especially the cat.  Doing so could certainly decrease your
performance, make it run rough, or worse.  Miles made some reasonable
suggestions, as well.  Check under the hood for mud having been thrown up
onto the engine.  Good luck.  Doug

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:42 AM, <meirman@...> wrote:

>
>
> At 08:40 PM 11/9/09, MilesG wrote:
> >You don't state what car you have, but could it be possible that you
> >either got mud/water into you distributor cap? Perhaps dislodged a
> >plug wire? This would cause the engine to run extremely rough. Also
> >possible is you having damaged something in your front axle, perhaps
> >a cv joint*although I doubt it*. Could you tell us your engine and
> >year and car?
>
> Sorry. It's a '95 Lebaron with a V6 3.0L engine.
>
>
> >--- In
thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com<thechryslerlebaronclub%40yahoogroups.com>\
,
> meirman@... wrote:
> > >
> > > So, as they say, I was on my way to a wedding last weekend in New
> > > Jersey, and I thought I was late, and I was going around a traffic
> > > circle in central NJ, and I thought the road wasn't very curved and
> > > that my speed was moderate, even though it had been raining
> > > lightly I'd been on the road for hours with no trouble. Then I
> > > noticed I was skidding to the right, so I gave up trying to go
> > > straight ahead and steered into the skid. First I went up a slanted
> > > curb, then across a grassy area about 15 or 20 feet, then down
> > > another curb into the lane for traffic from the right entering the
> > > circle (but there wasn't any. Cross traffic was very light.) and then
> > > on the other side of that lane, up four inches when I hit the far
> > > curb and back onto the grass. I would have stopped, but I realized
> > > how wet the grass and earth was and I was afraid I'd get stuck in
> > > mud, and I was late already, so I just veered to the left, got back
> > > on the road and kept going. I'm not sure anyone even saw what I did,
> > > but I'm revealing to you my heretofore secret.
> > >
> > > Immediately the car chugged on acceleration from 4mph (and continued
> > > to do so later both from stopped and from slow) and it made more
> > > noise than it had.
> > >
> > > I figured the problem would go away (I always think that, and once
> > > before, but only once, it had.) and anyhow, it was almost dark when
> > > I got out of the wedding, and I stayed at a friend's in New Jersey
> > > and drove back to Baltimore the next day. Had to be in Maryland by
> > > 3PM so no time to check car. Still making noise, at least on
> > > acceleration. I spent the week trying to figure out what the problem
> > > was, mostly by thinking, not by looking.. The car was running very
> > > rough also, at least at idle and maybe the rest of the time. I
> > > wondered if a local shop would just patch the muffler or if they'd
> > > insist on a new muffler, and if I could take it farther into the city
> > > where they understood that sometimes a patch is as good as a
> replacement.
> > >
> > > Sunday, I looked under the car at the rear end and at the side, but
> > > didn't see anything or hear a really loud spot. I opened the hood,
> > > and the exhaust pipe was in place. It would have been much louder
> > > than it was if that pipe was damaged, so I was sure that would be
> > > okay, but thought I might get a better view than I did of the pipes
> > > farther back.
> > >
> > > So what to do next and what was the problem? What do you all
> > > think? Who will be right? Should I call Click and Clack, or
> > > will you know?
> > >
> > > Stay tuned for the answers in my next post.
> > >
>
>
>


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Tail lights and parking lights are normally the same circuit.
How quick does the fuse blow?

As soon as you turn on the lights?

Sounds like a short in the harness. Look online for some info on troubleshooting
wiring/electrical problems. You'll need a test light or multimeter and patience.
A wiring diagram would be helpful.

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@...> wrote:

From: a1992mopar <pittsteelersfan21@...>
Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] Electrical Issue
To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:51 AM

I have a 1992 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible with a 1995 3.0L Engine and is having
electrical problems. The car keeps blowing the 20A tailight fuse which controls
my dash lights, tail lights and parking lights. only thing that works is the
headlights and brake lights. At night i have to drive with my hazards on because
of the missing lights. Could someone please help with this problem. Thank you!



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I have to agree.  Creating another LeBaron club just dilutes the impact and
effective communications that already exists.  If someone has suggestions
for improving this one, I'm sure we would all be interested in hearing them,
though.

Doug



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:13 AM, <jssmith494@...> wrote:

>
>
> I agree completely
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DR CHALLENGER <drchallenger@... <drchallenger%40hotmail.com>
> >
> To: lebaron club
<thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com<thechryslerlebaronclub%40yahoogroups.com\
>
> >
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:48 pm
> Subject: RE: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] another lebaron group
>
> hy? there are 2 already.
>
> o:
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> rom: no_reply@yahoogroups.com <no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
> ate: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:10:58 +0000
> ubject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] another lebaron group
>
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I have a 1992 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible with a 1995 3.0L Engine and is having
electrical problems. The car keeps blowing the 20A tailight fuse which controls
my dash lights, tail lights and parking lights. only thing that works is the
headlights and brake lights. At night i have to drive with my hazards on because
of the missing lights. Could someone please help with this problem. Thank you!

I agree completely






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To: lebaron club <thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 11:48 pm
Subject: RE: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] another lebaron group




hy? there are 2 already.


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At 08:40 PM 11/9/09, MilesG wrote:
>You don't state what car you have, but could it be possible that you
>either got mud/water into you distributor cap? Perhaps dislodged a
>plug wire? This would cause the engine to run extremely rough. Also
>possible is you having damaged something in your front axle, perhaps
>a cv joint*although I doubt it*. Could you tell us your engine and
>year and car?

Sorry.  It's a '95 Lebaron with a V6 3.0L engine.


>--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, meirman@... wrote:
> >
> > So, as they say, I was on my way to a wedding last weekend in New
> > Jersey, and I thought I was late, and I was going around a traffic
> > circle in central NJ, and I thought the road wasn't very curved and
> > that my speed was moderate, even though it had been raining
> > lightly   I'd been on the road for hours with no trouble.  Then I
> > noticed I was skidding to the right, so I gave up trying to go
> > straight ahead and steered into the skid.  First I went up a slanted
> > curb, then across a grassy area about 15 or 20 feet, then down
> > another curb into the lane for traffic from the right entering the
> > circle (but there wasn't any. Cross traffic was very light.) and then
> > on the other side of that lane, up four inches when I hit the far
> > curb and back onto the grass. I would have stopped, but I realized
> > how wet the grass and earth was and I was afraid I'd get stuck in
> > mud, and I was late already, so I just veered to the left, got back
> > on the road and kept going.  I'm not sure anyone even saw what I did,
> > but I'm revealing to you my heretofore secret.
> >
> > Immediately the car chugged on acceleration from 4mph (and continued
> > to do so later both from stopped and from slow) and it made more
> > noise than it had.
> >
> > I figured the problem would go away (I always think that, and once
> > before, but only once, it had.)  and anyhow, it was almost dark when
> > I got out of the wedding, and I stayed at a friend's in New Jersey
> > and drove back to Baltimore the next day.  Had to be in Maryland by
> > 3PM so no time to check car.   Still making noise, at least on
> > acceleration.  I spent the week trying to figure out what the problem
> > was, mostly by thinking, not by looking..  The car was running very
> > rough also, at least at idle and maybe the rest of the time.   I
> > wondered if a local shop would just patch the muffler or if they'd
> > insist on a new muffler, and if I could take it farther into the city
> > where they understood that sometimes a patch is as good as a replacement.
> >
> > Sunday, I looked under the car at the rear end and at the side, but
> > didn't see anything or hear a really loud spot.  I opened the hood,
> > and the exhaust pipe was in place.  It would have been much louder
> > than it was if that pipe was damaged, so I was sure that would be
> > okay, but thought I might get a better view than I did of the pipes
> > farther back.
> >
> > So what to do next and what was the problem?      What do you all
> > think?    Who will be right?    Should I call Click and Clack, or
> > will you know?
> >
> > Stay tuned for the answers in my next post.
> >

why? there are 2 already.



To: thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com
From: no_reply@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:10:58 +0000
Subject: [The Chrysler LeBaron Club] another lebaron group





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You don't state what car you have, but could it be possible that you either got
mud/water into you distributor cap? Perhaps dislodged a plug wire? This would
cause the engine to run extremely rough. Also possible is you having damaged
something in your front axle, perhaps a cv joint*although I doubt it*. Could you
tell us your engine and year and car?

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, meirman@... wrote:
>
> So, as they say, I was on my way to a wedding last weekend in New
> Jersey, and I thought I was late, and I was going around a traffic
> circle in central NJ, and I thought the road wasn't very curved and
> that my speed was moderate, even though it had been raining
> lightly   I'd been on the road for hours with no trouble.  Then I
> noticed I was skidding to the right, so I gave up trying to go
> straight ahead and steered into the skid.  First I went up a slanted
> curb, then across a grassy area about 15 or 20 feet, then down
> another curb into the lane for traffic from the right entering the
> circle (but there wasn't any. Cross traffic was very light.) and then
> on the other side of that lane, up four inches when I hit the far
> curb and back onto the grass. I would have stopped, but I realized
> how wet the grass and earth was and I was afraid I'd get stuck in
> mud, and I was late already, so I just veered to the left, got back
> on the road and kept going.  I'm not sure anyone even saw what I did,
> but I'm revealing to you my heretofore secret.
>
> Immediately the car chugged on acceleration from 4mph (and continued
> to do so later both from stopped and from slow) and it made more
> noise than it had.
>
> I figured the problem would go away (I always think that, and once
> before, but only once, it had.)  and anyhow, it was almost dark when
> I got out of the wedding, and I stayed at a friend's in New Jersey
> and drove back to Baltimore the next day.  Had to be in Maryland by
> 3PM so no time to check car.   Still making noise, at least on
> acceleration.  I spent the week trying to figure out what the problem
> was, mostly by thinking, not by looking..  The car was running very
> rough also, at least at idle and maybe the rest of the time.   I
> wondered if a local shop would just patch the muffler or if they'd
> insist on a new muffler, and if I could take it farther into the city
> where they understood that sometimes a patch is as good as a replacement.
>
> Sunday, I looked under the car at the rear end and at the side, but
> didn't see anything or hear a really loud spot.  I opened the hood,
> and the exhaust pipe was in place.  It would have been much louder
> than it was if that pipe was damaged, so I was sure that would be
> okay, but thought I might get a better view than I did of the pipes
> farther back.
>
> So what to do next and what was the problem?      What do you all
> think?    Who will be right?    Should I call Click and Clack, or
> will you know?
>
> Stay tuned for the answers in my next post.
>

So, as they say, I was on my way to a wedding last weekend in New
Jersey, and I thought I was late, and I was going around a traffic
circle in central NJ, and I thought the road wasn't very curved and
that my speed was moderate, even though it had been raining
lightly   I'd been on the road for hours with no trouble.  Then I
noticed I was skidding to the right, so I gave up trying to go
straight ahead and steered into the skid.  First I went up a slanted
curb, then across a grassy area about 15 or 20 feet, then down
another curb into the lane for traffic from the right entering the
circle (but there wasn't any. Cross traffic was very light.) and then
on the other side of that lane, up four inches when I hit the far
curb and back onto the grass. I would have stopped, but I realized
how wet the grass and earth was and I was afraid I'd get stuck in
mud, and I was late already, so I just veered to the left, got back
on the road and kept going.  I'm not sure anyone even saw what I did,
but I'm revealing to you my heretofore secret.

Immediately the car chugged on acceleration from 4mph (and continued
to do so later both from stopped and from slow) and it made more
noise than it had.

I figured the problem would go away (I always think that, and once
before, but only once, it had.)  and anyhow, it was almost dark when
I got out of the wedding, and I stayed at a friend's in New Jersey
and drove back to Baltimore the next day.  Had to be in Maryland by
3PM so no time to check car.   Still making noise, at least on
acceleration.  I spent the week trying to figure out what the problem
was, mostly by thinking, not by looking..  The car was running very
rough also, at least at idle and maybe the rest of the time.   I
wondered if a local shop would just patch the muffler or if they'd
insist on a new muffler, and if I could take it farther into the city
where they understood that sometimes a patch is as good as a replacement.

Sunday, I looked under the car at the rear end and at the side, but
didn't see anything or hear a really loud spot.  I opened the hood,
and the exhaust pipe was in place.  It would have been much louder
than it was if that pipe was damaged, so I was sure that would be
okay, but thought I might get a better view than I did of the pipes
farther back.

So what to do next and what was the problem?      What do you all
think?    Who will be right?    Should I call Click and Clack, or
will you know?

Stay tuned for the answers in my next post.

When I redid my valve cover gaskets I accidentally dislodged the vacuum hose
that plugged in to the booster. The brakes still kinda worked, maybe check
there?

--- In thechryslerlebaronclub@yahoogroups.com, meirman@... wrote:
>
> At 11:18 PM 11/7/09, nuthead53566two wrote:
> >I just replaced gaskets from the heads
>
> My brother's nephew once said, "I just washed your brother's car",
> and it turned out he meant he took it to a car wash, where someone
> else washed it.  I checked on an english usage group, and most people
> were satisfied with this usage.  So now I know I can't tell from such
> sentences if someone did it himself or paid someone to do it.
>
> >  up on my 95 lebaron 3.0. While driving today i noticed a high
> > pitched whistling coming from the engine compartment. Could this be
> > a vacuum leak or something else? The whistle quiets down when i
> > step on the gas, and gets louder when i let off.
>
> Well, it's true that vacuum tends to disappear when one
> accelerates.  But the same thing would happen if there were a leak
> where the gasket goes.
>
> Take a piece of rubber or aquarium tubing and hold one end to your
> ear and more the other end to places that might have leaks, and you
> should find it fairly quickly.
>
> BTW, on another occasion, before my brother gave me his 2-year old
> car when he went to Viet Nam, I noticed he couldn't pull away from a
> stop without lurching a little bit. When I got the car, it was weeks
> before I noticed that a whole hose was missing, the one to the vacuum
> advance of the distributor.    The T-connector with one empty end and
> the vacuum advance itself were hidden by one thing or another from
> every view.  I had to climb up get on top of the engine to see that
> the hose was not just leaking but  missing.
>
> When you say you just noticed it today, How many miles had you driven
> since then but you didnt' hear the noise.  Is it so loud you couldn't
> have missed it?
>
> Mike
>

At 11:18 PM 11/7/09, nuthead53566two wrote:
>I just replaced gaskets from the heads

My brother's nephew once said, "I just washed your brother's car",
and it turned out he meant he took it to a car wash, where someone
else washed it.  I checked on an english usage group, and most people
were satisfied with this usage.  So now I know I can't tell from such
sentences if someone did it himself or paid someone to do it.

>  up on my 95 lebaron 3.0. While driving today i noticed a high
> pitched whistling coming from the engine compartment. Could this be
> a vacuum leak or something else? The whistle quiets down when i
> step on the gas, and gets louder when i let off.

Well, it's true that vacuum tends to disappear when one
accelerates.  But the same thing would happen if there were a leak
where the gasket goes.

Take a piece of rubber or aquarium tubing and hold one end to your
ear and more the other end to places that might have leaks, and you
should find it fairly quickly.

BTW, on another occasion, before my brother gave me his 2-year old
car when he went to Viet Nam, I noticed he couldn't pull away from a
stop without lurching a little bit. When I got the car, it was weeks
before I noticed that a whole hose was missing, the one to the vacuum
advance of the distributor.    The T-connector with one empty end and
the vacuum advance itself were hidden by one thing or another from
every view.  I had to climb up get on top of the engine to see that
the hose was not just leaking but  missing.

When you say you just noticed it today, How many miles had you driven
since then but you didnt' hear the noise.  Is it so loud you couldn't
have missed it?

Mike