I have an original Sabre coil if needed...........chuck
To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com From: deltas69@... Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:01:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] WTB: Puch Compact 60 Tank and Stator
probably easy enough to put the sabre tank on a compact..but they are slightly different...
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Glenn Bubenheimer <gbuben@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Glenn Bubenheimer <gbuben@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] WTB: Puch Compact 60 Tank and Stator To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 5:55 AM
I have an un-dented Sabre tank you can have for cheap....... ..... Besides it being Silver, they are the same? Do you guys know out there? I thought I put a Sabre tank on a Compact once........ ....
Glenn gbuben@sbcglobal. net
From: RyanW <hotrod9315@verizon. net> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 9:09:24 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] WTB: Puch Compact 60 Tank and Stator
probably easy enough to put the sabre tank on a compact..but they are slightly different...
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Glenn Bubenheimer <gbuben@...> wrote:
From: Glenn Bubenheimer <gbuben@...> Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] WTB: Puch Compact 60 Tank and Stator To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 5:55 AM
I have an un-dented Sabre tank you can have for cheap....... ..... Besides it being Silver, they are the same? Do you guys know out there? I thought I put a Sabre tank on a Compact once........ ....
Glenn gbuben@sbcglobal. net
From: RyanW <hotrod9315@verizon. net> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 9:09:24 PM Subject:
[searsmotorcycleclu b] WTB: Puch Compact 60 Tank and Stator
I have an un-dented Sabre tank you can have for cheap............ Besides it being Silver, they are the same? Do you guys know out there? I thought I put a Sabre tank on a Compact once............
Glenn gbuben@...
From: RyanW <hotrod9315@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 9:09:24 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] WTB: Puch Compact 60 Tank and Stator
Bill,
dude, I'm not in a hurry. I've searched all over 'these parts' for a GT750 with
no results. I can sit on the bikes and have all the room in the garage I ever
need. Don't cut your throat and I'd just prefer to stay off e-bay specifically
because I've rec'd the 'shaft' more than twice on purchasing and on the selling
side of things.
If you don't mind looking in your neck of the woods for a GT750 and can find one
that will make the two bike swap a sweet deal for you well that would be
awesome--I trust your judgement on bikes and would like to help you out with the
parts I have--besides I know the bikes would go to someone who really
appreciates them as I do.
Hope this makes you smile dude,
Mark
--- In searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com, Bill Church <masterbillchurch@...>
wrote:
>
> Ok Cutting my throat here as I print this .... but..... put the parts back on
get it running so you can say it runs and list seperatly on ebay. Start the bid
at $475 or so with a reserve at $650 see where it goes. Scrambler. If you get it
running with little to no work then get it running and do the same only increase
amounts by $100 starting bid and $150 reserve and see where it goes. Understand
that ebay charges will be about $11 each to list and a final value charge of
about $100 each. You have two great bikes and now is the time to sell them. I
will find the parts I need somewhere. Take about 12 pictures for each bike and
supersize them. You will be suprized at what you will get. List <local pickup
only. No Shipping.> Don't fall for the scammers they are crafty.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Mark <mgschanou@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mark <mgschanou@...>
> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Waterbuffalo trade for Allstates
> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:12 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> do you think I should do more work on both bikes and simply sell them
outright? the 1959 is complete and I can have it running in a day (but I'd have
to reassemble with the parts I took off for you)
>
> The 250 scrambler has some really good scrambler pieces but would hate to part
out such a rare bike. Tank is excellent and so are the exhaust pipes, front
fender headlight.
>
> I would like $1,200 for both allstates (which seems reasonable to me at
$600/ea.)
>
> My thoughts, that if a guy stumbled across a waterbuffalo that needed work for
anything less than $1,200 he'd have a sweet deal on two allstates.
>
> As I put some time and money in cosmetics--the prices of both bikes go up!
>
> What are your thoughts on my thinking--is it stinkin'?
>
> Mark
>
I COULD BUY YOUR BIKE AND USE SOME THINGS OFF MINE AND MAKE A PRETTY GOOD SCRAMBLER, I LIKE THE LOOKS. CHARLIE
From: chas sandelin <crsandelin@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 1:31:44 PM Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] Waterbuffalo trade for Allstates
I WOUSH U WERE IN CALIF.
From: Mark <mgschanou@yahoo. com> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 9:12:43 AM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] Waterbuffalo trade for Allstates
Bill,
do you think I should do more work on both bikes and simply sell them outright? the 1959 is complete and I can have it running in a day (but I'd have to reassemble with the parts I took off for you)
The 250 scrambler has some really good scrambler pieces but would hate to part out such a rare bike. Tank is excellent and so are the exhaust pipes, front fender headlight.
I would like $1,200 for both allstates (which seems reasonable to me at $600/ea.)
My thoughts, that if a guy stumbled across a waterbuffalo that needed work for anything less than $1,200 he'd have a sweet deal on two allstates.
As I put some time and money in cosmetics--the prices of both bikes go up!
What are your thoughts on my thinking--is it stinkin'?
From: Mark <mgschanou@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 9:12:43 AM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Waterbuffalo trade for Allstates
Bill,
do you think I should do more work on both bikes and simply sell them outright? the 1959 is complete and I can have it running in a day (but I'd have to reassemble with the parts I took off for you)
The 250 scrambler has some really good scrambler pieces but would hate to part out such a rare bike. Tank is excellent and so are the exhaust pipes, front fender headlight.
I would like $1,200 for both allstates (which seems reasonable to me at $600/ea.)
My thoughts, that if a guy stumbled across a waterbuffalo that needed work for anything less than $1,200 he'd have a sweet deal on two allstates.
As I put some time and money in cosmetics--the prices of both bikes go up!
What are your thoughts on my thinking--is it stinkin'?
Ok Cutting my throat here as I print this .... but..... put the parts back on get it running so you can say it runs and list seperatly on ebay. Start the bid at $475 or so with a reserve at $650 see where it goes. Scrambler. If you get it running with little to no work then get it running and do the same only increase amounts by $100 starting bid and $150 reserve and see where it goes. Understand that ebay charges will be about $11 each to list and a final value charge of about $100 each. You have two great bikes and now is the time to sell them. I will find the parts I need somewhere. Take about 12 pictures for each bike and supersize them. You will be suprized at what you will get. List <local pickup only. No Shipping.> Don't fall for the scammers they are crafty.
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Mark <mgschanou@...> wrote:
From: Mark <mgschanou@...> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Waterbuffalo trade for Allstates To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:12 PM
Bill,
do you think I should do more work on both bikes and simply sell them outright? the 1959 is complete and I can have it running in a day (but I'd have to reassemble with the parts I took off for you)
The 250 scrambler has some really good scrambler pieces but would hate to part out such a rare bike. Tank is excellent and so are the exhaust pipes, front fender headlight.
I would like $1,200 for both allstates (which seems reasonable to me at $600/ea.)
My thoughts, that if a guy stumbled across a waterbuffalo that needed work for anything less than $1,200 he'd have a sweet deal on two allstates.
As I put some time and money in cosmetics--the prices of both bikes go up!
What are your thoughts on my thinking--is it stinkin'?
Bill,
do you think I should do more work on both bikes and simply sell them outright?
the 1959 is complete and I can have it running in a day (but I'd have to
reassemble with the parts I took off for you)
The 250 scrambler has some really good scrambler pieces but would hate to part
out such a rare bike. Tank is excellent and so are the exhaust pipes, front
fender headlight.
I would like $1,200 for both allstates (which seems reasonable to me at
$600/ea.)
My thoughts, that if a guy stumbled across a waterbuffalo that needed work for
anything less than $1,200 he'd have a sweet deal on two allstates.
As I put some time and money in cosmetics--the prices of both bikes go up!
What are your thoughts on my thinking--is it stinkin'?
Mark
Hey Mark: I want to make arrangements with you on the parts. Like to talk on the class, I will look for the GT750 here. "Couple of broken bikes" Insulting to a "Pucher" that sees beauty in any Puch bike. How about it guys ...a Bike that was pulled from the bushes, purchased for $10, has had little to nothing done to it and it runs and drives....1957 PUCH MS-50L. if you had looked at it you would have said "broken". My "broken" 1962 250 rides me eveywhere and was a complete wreck when I got it. Turns heads as I ride. Local biker bad guys give me the thumbs up every time they see me. Go back a month on ebay. A guy not 20 minutes from me sold a non running 1963 175 missing parts Puch for $2000! I checked alittle and the GT750 goes for about $1000 - $1400. HHHMMMM Pray and it will happen. --- On Thu, 11/12/09, alan Last NameHoward
<electromachinist@...> wrote:
From: alan Last NameHoward <electromachinist@...> Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] Re: Want it? To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 8:20 AM
Gt-750 are worth a bit more than a couple of broken bikes,take a look and this is typical.
From: Mark <mgschanou@yahoo. com> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 7:27:21 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] Re: Want it?
Bill
sorry I haven't gotten back to you--If you can source a Road Toad, can you help me work a GT750 swap for the two allstates I have? Know anyone who has a GT 750 that needs a little spit and polish or carb cleaning that we could work a trade--I still have the puch parts you asked me to set aside.
btw, free delivery on the allstates to Chicago for a GT750...... Mark --- In searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com, "masterbillchurch" <masterbillchurch@ ...> wrote: > > Anyone interested in a Hodaka 1973(manufacture date) 100 Road Toad. I have frame, front forks, front wheel assembly, engine, tank, seat with no cover, fenders, chain guard, some wires, misc parts for shift & brake, no rear wheel assembly, no handlebars. I'm in Michigan
and want to get rid of it. I'm going to set it together this weekend and take a few pictures and list on Craigs list and Ebay. Got this with other bikes. Asking $150 > > Bill >
From: Mark <mgschanou@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 7:27:21 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Re: Want it?
Bill
sorry I haven't gotten back to you--If you can source a Road Toad, can you help me work a GT750 swap for the two allstates I have? Know anyone who has a GT 750 that needs a little spit and polish or carb cleaning that we could work a trade--I still have the puch parts you asked me to set aside.
btw, free delivery on the allstates to Chicago for a GT750...... Mark --- In searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com, "masterbillchurch" <masterbillchurch@ ...> wrote: > > Anyone interested in a Hodaka 1973(manufacture date) 100 Road Toad. I have frame, front forks, front wheel assembly, engine, tank, seat with no cover, fenders, chain guard, some wires, misc parts for shift & brake, no rear wheel assembly, no handlebars. I'm in Michigan and want to get rid of it. I'm going to
set it together this weekend and take a few pictures and list on Craigs list and Ebay. Got this with other bikes. Asking $150 > > Bill >
Bill
sorry I haven't gotten back to you--If you can source a Road Toad, can you help
me work a GT750 swap for the two allstates I have? Know anyone who has a GT 750
that needs a little spit and polish or carb cleaning that we could work a
trade--I still have the puch parts you asked me to set aside.
btw, free delivery on the allstates to Chicago for a GT750.....
Mark
--- In searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com, "masterbillchurch"
<masterbillchurch@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in a Hodaka 1973(manufacture date) 100 Road Toad. I have
frame, front forks, front wheel assembly, engine, tank, seat with no cover,
fenders, chain guard, some wires, misc parts for shift & brake, no rear wheel
assembly, no handlebars. I'm in Michigan and want to get rid of it. I'm going to
set it together this weekend and take a few pictures and list on Craigs list and
Ebay. Got this with other bikes. Asking $150
>
> Bill
>
If you don't want to paint due to the lack of know how or money...go to your local hardware and buy a can of High Gloss Black Epoxy Enamal Appliance Paint. Easy to use. Looks and wears great.
--- On Wed, 11/11/09, scott s <prescott_82@...> wrote:
From: scott s <prescott_82@...> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] looking for a tool box for my Puch / Allstate 250 To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:14 PM
I have a 1963 Puch / Allstate 250 and I am looking for a toolbox in good to great shape prefer Black (because I don't want to paint) let me know if you have one available and how much you want for it. thanks
Don't live in Illinois. But have 8 and my sister lives in McHenry and I am there periodically. I live in GR michigan
--- On Wed, 11/11/09, scott s <prescott_82@...> wrote:
From: scott s <prescott_82@...> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Looking for Allstate Puch fans in the Northern Illinois area To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:16 PM
If you live in the northern part of Illinois and have a Bike drop me a line
I have a 1963 Puch / Allstate 250 and I am looking for a toolbox in good to
great shape prefer Black (because I don't want to paint) let me know if you have
one available and how much you want for it. thanks
--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Todd Wallis <frogodon@...> wrote:
From: Todd Wallis <frogodon@...> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Looking for a Magneto for a 106 Gilera To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:26 AM
I don't suppose anyone has a usable magneto for a 106 that they would be willing to part with.
i have a 64, 250 Allstate, but it aint much to brag about but it is all there and not all rusted up.
From: Mark <mgschanou@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 2:01:46 AM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Re: trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
At some point next week I should have it up--thanks Charlie
--- In searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com, chas sandelin <crsandelin@ ...> wrote: > > i seen a 175 scrambler, but not a 250 one, could u put what u got up on this site?  thanks  charlie > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Mark <mgschanou@. ..> > To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:10:53 PM > Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler > >  > Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250
scrambler for a 72-76 GT750 suzuki. > > Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should have in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens. > > Thanks > Mark > Iowa > 319-551-1464 > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail. yahoo.com >
From: Mark <mgschanou@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 2:01:46 AM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] Re: trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
At some point next week I should have it up--thanks Charlie
--- In searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com, chas sandelin <crsandelin@ ...> wrote: > > i seen a 175 scrambler, but not a 250 one, could u put what u got up on this site?  thanks  charlie > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Mark <mgschanou@. ..> > To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:10:53 PM > Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler > >  > Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250
scrambler for a 72-76 GT750 suzuki. > > Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should have in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens. > > Thanks > Mark > Iowa > 319-551-1464 > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail. yahoo.com >
At some point next week I should have it up--thanks Charlie
--- In searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com, chas sandelin <crsandelin@...>
wrote:
>
> i seen a 175 scrambler, but not a 250 one, could u put what u got up on this
site?  thanks  charlie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark <mgschanou@...>
> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:10:53 PM
> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
>
> Â
> Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250 scrambler for a 72-76
GT750 suzuki.
>
> Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should
have in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler
until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
> Iowa
> 319-551-1464
>
>
>
>
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From: Mark <mgschanou@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:10:53 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
Wakeup Mark,your having a wet dream.no one in thier right might is going to trade a water buffalo 9a classic in its own rite) for a none runnning bike thats all but impossible to get parts for.It just won't happen.
alan
Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250 scrambler for a 72-76 GT750 suzuki.
Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should have in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens.
--- On Tue, 11/10/09, ken cromer <kencromer13@...> wrote:
From: ken cromer <kencromer13@...> Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] Interesting Online Article About a Restored 1966 Sears Sabre To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:15 PM
Thanks for the article. a good read
--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Todd Wallis <frogodon@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Todd Wallis <frogodon@yahoo. com> Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] Interesting Online Article About a Restored 1966 Sears Sabre To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:01 PM
Hello folks: Recently found out that the price I placed on the 1966? 106ss
motor was a little out of line. Asked $125 and found out that $100 is normal for
that motor. Shipping is still nuts as it is about 50# so guessing at $35
depending on destination. Local pick up is ok. I live in Grand Rapids Mi
49507. Motor turns over, seems to go through gears, intact, no cracks that I
found. I have done, and will do, nothing to it. It is just grubby from sitting
in a barn. Really…the barn fell down and out came this bike. I am posting two
pictures in the picture area under Bill's 106 motor. I also have a gas tank,
rear fender, front forks (not sure if they are right ones) rear tailight
housing, 2 piece chain guard, swing arm and misc pieces. I will trade pieces for
a decent 250 jug, or 250 early 60s ignition switch, or 250 headlight ring
Let me know if anyone interested.
Bill
From: chas sandelin <crsandelin@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:48:13 PM Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
i seen a 175 scrambler, but not a 250 one, could u put what u got up on this site? thanks charlie
From: Mark <mgschanou@yahoo. com> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:10:53 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250 scrambler for a 72-76 GT750 suzuki.
Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should have in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens.
Thanks Mark Iowa 319-551-1464
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com
i seen a 175 scrambler, but not a 250 one, could u put what u got up on this site? thanks charlie
From: Mark <mgschanou@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:10:53 PM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclub] trade for 1965 250 Scrambler
Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250 scrambler for a 72-76 GT750 suzuki.
Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should have in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens.
Thanks Mark Iowa 319-551-1464
__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Looking to trade a rolling basket case Allstate 250 scrambler for a 72-76 GT750
suzuki.
Missing center stand, oil tank, and some other miscellaneous parts. Should have
in running condition by this spring. Will continue to work on the Scrambler
until complete and running or until trade for Gt750 happens.
Thanks
Mark
Iowa
319-551-1464
From: joe giambrone <bowtiejoe56@...> To: searsmotorcycleclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 6:32:30 AM Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclub] 106ss
I have a 106 complete in like new condition. if interested, reply.
Joe
From: Kim Ducaine <kducaine13@yahoo. com> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 3:44:35 PM Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclu b] 106ss
Thanks. I saw them on ebay. It looks like you only have one knee guard on the tank. Is that accurate?
From: Bill Church <masterbillchurch@ yahoo.com> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 9:27:27 AM Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclu b] 106ss
Many of the parts that are usable are on ebay right now. I still have the frame and motor and I am willing to get rid of them.
Bill
--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Kim Ducaine <kducaine13@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Kim Ducaine <kducaine13@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [searsmotorcycleclu b] 106ss To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 10:11 PM
Please send me pictures if the 106ss is still avail.
From: masterbillchurch <masterbillchurch@ yahoo.com> To: searsmotorcycleclub @yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 7:29:01 AM Subject: [searsmotorcycleclu b] 106ss
Hello:
Anyone in the market for a 106ss Gilera parts bike? Seems to me to be all there just a mess. Many salvagable parts. I'm in Michigan and want to get rid of it as it stands. I am NOT touching it in any way. I can email pictures tomorrow. Just give me an offer.