Not even a Volvo can save you when there are rich a**holes racing their
cars on the streets. I guess only some of us know that racing is for the
track only! This looked like a late model volvo too (although difficult to
tell at this point.)

Anyone for a defensive and/or evasive driving course?


http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-06-25/News_and_Views/Crime_File/a-116129.asp

Here's the official announcement from the California Speedway.  There
web site it at http://www.californiaspeedway.com/
Dave Barton

>
> California Speedway has broken ground on a permanent
> road course as the speedway looks to increase the number
> of events hosted at the Southern California motorsports
> facility, it was announced today by speedway President Bill
> Miller.
>
> Development of the course, which is scheduled for
> completion in early fall, has three configurations: an Infield
> Road Course, which can be 1.45 miles (13 turns) or 1.5
> miles (17 turns); an Auto Competition Course, which utilizes
> part of the oval at 2.88 miles (21 turns) and a Motorcycle
> Competition Course, which also uses part of the oval at 2.36
> miles (21 turns).
>
> The course is being designed by Associated Engineers, who
> played an integral role in the design of California Speedway,
> which opened in 1997. Yeager Construction, the company
> that built the speedway, is overseeing the construction of the course.
>
> “This is an exciting time for California Speedway as we take the next
> step in our continuation as a premier motorsports facility. The development
> of this road course increases the opportunities for us to host additional
> events that motorsports fans in Southern California will want to experience,”
> said Miller.
>
> “We’ve had preliminary discussions with AMA and Grand AM,” continued Miller.
> “Now that we’ve broken ground and are proceeding with the course, we look
> forward to intensifying those discussions and seeing what makes sense from an
> entertainment and business standpoint.”
>
> Currently, the speedway conducts two major event weekends, the spring NASCAR
> Winston Cup and Busch Series and fall CART FedEx Championship Series/NASCAR
> Craftsman Truck Series weekends.
>
> “When the speedway was originally built, an infield test circuit was
> included; however, the purpose of the course at that time was to host driving
> schools and testing, not competition,” said Miller. “The current layout is
> used approximately 85 days during the year, so this new road course will
> improve an already successful rental program.”
>
> The design of the new road course includes a number of variations to suit
> different sanctioning bodies and racing school needs in utilizing the
> facility. In addition, transitions are being built from the oval in two
> places – halfway between turns one and two and nearly halfway down the
> backstretch. The exit from the road course to the oval is being constructed
> in turn four.
>
> The width of the infield-racing surface is 45-feet wide and will be asphalt,
> similar to the compound used on the speedway’s two-mile D-shaped oval.
> Additional paving for run-off areas, both in the infield and near the
> transitions on and off the oval, will be placed during construction.
> Alterations to the inside retaining wall and catch fence for the
> oval transitions will also be constructed.
>
> Construction of the new road course will not affect motorhome parking for the
> upcoming CART race.
>
> “We appreciate the continued support of San Bernardino County, Associated
> Engineers and Yeager Construction for making this project a reality in a
> short period of time,” said Miller. “We look forward to having road racing
> back in Southern California.”

The next national VCOA meet is in Sedona, AZ in September.  There will
be no track day.  To my knowledge, the 2002 national event has not yet
been decided. The track events are a blast and would certainly be a
highlight to any event, but they get expensive, averaging around $150
per driver for 40 to 50 drivers. I'll check into the availability of the
Fontana road course when it's completed and see if we can pull it off.
If we were to have a national event in SoCal, then I think finding that
many Volvo drivers is feasible.
Dave Barton

Rennsurfer@... wrote:
>
> Greetings all, yes... Thunderhill is an AWESOME track. My Porsche Club
>
> also used it, last year, for our annual PCA Parade event. What a
> weeklong
> blast THAT was! We lucked into some great weather during the first
> week
> in July. It was actually mild, like So Cal; in the lower 80's.
>
> At any rate, I couldn't make it to the VCOA event. Drats! I was really
>
> wanting to take my wagon up there, too. I felt it to be rather ironic
> that I
> had just gone up there with my Porsche for the Concours D' Elegance
> event, of
> which I took fourth place. It would've been really kewl to return
> in Oct. Speaking of which... does anybody know if VCOA is going to
> have
> another event like last year's? If so, perhaps central or southern Cal
> would
> be in order.
>
> Thoughts, views, comments?
>
> Cheers,
> Mark "Sumdumsurfer" K.
> 1987 beloved 5spd. 245DL Der Surfenwagen
> 1986 Porsche 5spd. 944 Der Rennwagen
>

Greetings all, yes... Thunderhill is an AWESOME track. My Porsche Club
also used it, last year, for our annual PCA Parade event. What a weeklong
blast THAT was! We lucked into some great weather during the first week
in July. It was actually mild, like So Cal; in the lower 80's.

At any rate, I couldn't make it to the VCOA event. Drats! I was really
wanting to take my wagon up there, too. I felt it to be rather ironic that I
had just gone up there with my Porsche for the Concours D' Elegance event, of
which I took fourth place. It would've been really kewl to return
in Oct. Speaking of which... does anybody know if VCOA is going to have
another event like last year's? If so, perhaps central or southern Cal would
be in order.

Thoughts, views, comments?

Cheers,
Mark "Sumdumsurfer" K.
1987 beloved 5spd. 245DL Der Surfenwagen
1986 Porsche 5spd. 944 Der Rennwagen

dbarton@... writes:
> Thunderhill in in Northern Calif... about 1.5 hours north of
>  Sacramento.  The Golden Gate Chapter of VCOA sets up race days there
>  about twice a year.  I went during the last West Coast National Meet
>  last year.

I followed the Elsinore race track plans for a while, but things have
been real quiet for a few months.  The developers are finding typical
opposition from surrounding land owners who have nothing but vacant
land, but don't want the likes of a race track complex anywhere near
their speculative investments as they hope to sell their land to a tract
home developer in the future.  If I come across any news I'll pass it
along.
Dave Barton
Lake Elsinore

> Dan, did you ever hear anything more of a "Japanese" group looking to develop
a racetrack in
> the Elsinore area?  Or is that a dead issue?

Thunderhill in in Northern Calif... about 1.5 hours north of
Sacramento.  The Golden Gate Chapter of VCOA sets up race days there
about twice a year.  I went during the last West Coast National Meet
last year.  They also had one about a month or two ago and their
scheduling another in August. The Golden Gate Chapter site is at
http://members.aol.com/goldengatevcoa/
Dave Barton

Joong Keun Chee wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> That sounds fun. Let me know when you get a date going. Also, where is
> Thunderhill, the place you went racing on your web page?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
> Dave Barton wrote:
> >
> > Well... all I can say is it's about time.  Anyone want to go road
> > racing?
> > Dave Barton
> >
> > > BC-CAR--California Speedway,0221
> > >
> > > California track to add permanent road course
> > >
> > >    FONTANA, Calif. (AP) _ California Speedway has broken ground on
> a
> > > permanent road course in an effort to increase the number of races
> at the
> > > track.
> > >
> > >    The course, scheduled to be completed in early fall, has three
> > > configurations: an infield road course, which can be 1.5 miles or
> 1.55
> > > miles; an auto competition course, which uses part of the oval at
> 2.88
> > > miles; and a motorcycle competition course, which also uses part
> of the oval
> > > at 2.36 miles.
> > >
> > >    Currently, the speedway hosts two major races, the NASCAR
> Winston Cup in
> > > the spring and the Busch Series and CART FedEx championship series
> and
> > > NASCAR Craftsman Truck series in the fall.
> > >
> > >    Meanwhile, the speedway and NHRA officials announced plans to
> build a
> > > quarter-mile drag strip to host the NHRA's street legal racing.
> > >
> > >    The strip, designed for street cars to race in a controlled
> environment,
> > > will be located on the south side of the speedway in a parking lot
> behind
> > > the main grandstands. A concrete launch pad will be built in the
> lot, along
> > > with a temporary starting stand and timing system.
> > >
> > >    The first weekend of racing is scheduled for Sept. 8-9. The
> track plans
> > > to host additional weekends on Sept. 22-23 and Oct. 6-7. Winter
> and summer
> > > racing schedules also are planned.
> >
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Hi Dave,

That sounds fun. Let me know when you get a date going. Also, where is
Thunderhill, the place you went racing on your web page?

Thanks,
Jay

Dave Barton wrote:
>
> Well... all I can say is it's about time.  Anyone want to go road
> racing?
> Dave Barton
>
> > BC-CAR--California Speedway,0221
> >
> > California track to add permanent road course
> >
> >    FONTANA, Calif. (AP) _ California Speedway has broken ground on a
> > permanent road course in an effort to increase the number of races at the
> > track.
> >
> >    The course, scheduled to be completed in early fall, has three
> > configurations: an infield road course, which can be 1.5 miles or 1.55
> > miles; an auto competition course, which uses part of the oval at 2.88
> > miles; and a motorcycle competition course, which also uses part of the oval
> > at 2.36 miles.
> >
> >    Currently, the speedway hosts two major races, the NASCAR Winston Cup in
> > the spring and the Busch Series and CART FedEx championship series and
> > NASCAR Craftsman Truck series in the fall.
> >
> >    Meanwhile, the speedway and NHRA officials announced plans to build a
> > quarter-mile drag strip to host the NHRA's street legal racing.
> >
> >    The strip, designed for street cars to race in a controlled environment,
> > will be located on the south side of the speedway in a parking lot behind
> > the main grandstands. A concrete launch pad will be built in the lot, along
> > with a temporary starting stand and timing system.
> >
> >    The first weekend of racing is scheduled for Sept. 8-9. The track plans
> > to host additional weekends on Sept. 22-23 and Oct. 6-7. Winter and summer
> > racing schedules also are planned.
>
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Oops, I suggested in this last missive that Ray Rubio was the organizer of the
Speedvision GT Series race.  What I meant to say was that he organized the local
SD race.

Shawn
(going back to his corner)
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Shawn Shaw
   To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:22 AM
   Subject: Re: [scvcoa-discussion] Road Course at California Speedway


   I wonder if this is part of the same plans that the organizer for the
Speedvision GT series (I think it's called this) was alluding to recently.

   Ray Rubio, whose son, Ralph, runs Rubio's Fish Taco (a SoCal based fast food
restaurant), stepped in to put together a road race here in San Diego at the
Naval Training Center last year.  Ray was quoted recently in the local fishwrap
that he was searching for a permanent site to host the American Le Mans Series,
along with other road racing circuits, in the San Diego area (or somewhere else
in the southland).  Maybe the California Speedway was the "somewhere" that he
alluded to.  Either way, if he is planning another site in the SD area it good
news.  AND YES, IT IS ABOUT TIME.

   Dan, did you ever hear anything more of a "Japanese" group looking to develop
a racetrack in the Elsinore area?  Or is that a dead issue?

   Support your local racer...eat fish tacos.

   Shawn
   San Diego, CA
   89 780 in need of rehab.
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Dave Barton
     To: scvcoa discussion ; scvcoa-news
     Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:37 PM
     Subject: [scvcoa-discussion] Road Course at California Speedway


     Well... all I can say is it's about time.  Anyone want to go road
     racing?
     Dave Barton

     > BC-CAR--California Speedway,0221
     >
     > California track to add permanent road course
     >
     >    FONTANA, Calif. (AP) _ California Speedway has broken ground on a
     > permanent road course in an effort to increase the number of races at the
     > track.
     >
     >    The course, scheduled to be completed in early fall, has three
     > configurations: an infield road course, which can be 1.5 miles or 1.55
     > miles; an auto competition course, which uses part of the oval at 2.88
     > miles; and a motorcycle competition course, which also uses part of the
oval
     > at 2.36 miles.
     >
     >    Currently, the speedway hosts two major races, the NASCAR Winston Cup
in
     > the spring and the Busch Series and CART FedEx championship series and
     > NASCAR Craftsman Truck series in the fall.
     >
     >    Meanwhile, the speedway and NHRA officials announced plans to build a
     > quarter-mile drag strip to host the NHRA's street legal racing.
     >
     >    The strip, designed for street cars to race in a controlled
environment,
     > will be located on the south side of the speedway in a parking lot behind
     > the main grandstands. A concrete launch pad will be built in the lot,
along
     > with a temporary starting stand and timing system.
     >
     >    The first weekend of racing is scheduled for Sept. 8-9. The track plans
     > to host additional weekends on Sept. 22-23 and Oct. 6-7. Winter and summer
     > racing schedules also are planned.

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I wonder if this is part of the same plans that the organizer for the
Speedvision GT series (I think it's called this) was alluding to recently.

Ray Rubio, whose son, Ralph, runs Rubio's Fish Taco (a SoCal based fast food
restaurant), stepped in to put together a road race here in San Diego at the
Naval Training Center last year.  Ray was quoted recently in the local fishwrap
that he was searching for a permanent site to host the American Le Mans Series,
along with other road racing circuits, in the San Diego area (or somewhere else
in the southland).  Maybe the California Speedway was the "somewhere" that he
alluded to.  Either way, if he is planning another site in the SD area it good
news.  AND YES, IT IS ABOUT TIME.

Dan, did you ever hear anything more of a "Japanese" group looking to develop a
racetrack in the Elsinore area?  Or is that a dead issue?

Support your local racer...eat fish tacos.

Shawn
San Diego, CA
89 780 in need of rehab.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Barton
   To: scvcoa discussion ; scvcoa-news
   Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:37 PM
   Subject: [scvcoa-discussion] Road Course at California Speedway


   Well... all I can say is it's about time.  Anyone want to go road
   racing?
   Dave Barton

   > BC-CAR--California Speedway,0221
   >
   > California track to add permanent road course
   >
   >    FONTANA, Calif. (AP) _ California Speedway has broken ground on a
   > permanent road course in an effort to increase the number of races at the
   > track.
   >
   >    The course, scheduled to be completed in early fall, has three
   > configurations: an infield road course, which can be 1.5 miles or 1.55
   > miles; an auto competition course, which uses part of the oval at 2.88
   > miles; and a motorcycle competition course, which also uses part of the oval
   > at 2.36 miles.
   >
   >    Currently, the speedway hosts two major races, the NASCAR Winston Cup in
   > the spring and the Busch Series and CART FedEx championship series and
   > NASCAR Craftsman Truck series in the fall.
   >
   >    Meanwhile, the speedway and NHRA officials announced plans to build a
   > quarter-mile drag strip to host the NHRA's street legal racing.
   >
   >    The strip, designed for street cars to race in a controlled environment,
   > will be located on the south side of the speedway in a parking lot behind
   > the main grandstands. A concrete launch pad will be built in the lot, along
   > with a temporary starting stand and timing system.
   >
   >    The first weekend of racing is scheduled for Sept. 8-9. The track plans
   > to host additional weekends on Sept. 22-23 and Oct. 6-7. Winter and summer
   > racing schedules also are planned.

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Even though my baby isnt up to perfect running order id love to take her out
and see how far over 120 she goes, thats as fast as i have brave enough to go
on the local freeways mainly out in the desert. the turbos rebuilt but have a
manifold leak due to a broken stud,other then that the suspension has been
rebuilt complete and engine like. sounds like a good idea to me if a group if
formed i am sure to attend.

Jason

86 740 Ti 22300


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Well... all I can say is it's about time.  Anyone want to go road
racing?
Dave Barton

> BC-CAR--California Speedway,0221
>
> California track to add permanent road course
>
>    FONTANA, Calif. (AP) _ California Speedway has broken ground on a
> permanent road course in an effort to increase the number of races at the
> track.
>
>    The course, scheduled to be completed in early fall, has three
> configurations: an infield road course, which can be 1.5 miles or 1.55
> miles; an auto competition course, which uses part of the oval at 2.88
> miles; and a motorcycle competition course, which also uses part of the oval
> at 2.36 miles.
>
>    Currently, the speedway hosts two major races, the NASCAR Winston Cup in
> the spring and the Busch Series and CART FedEx championship series and
> NASCAR Craftsman Truck series in the fall.
>
>    Meanwhile, the speedway and NHRA officials announced plans to build a
> quarter-mile drag strip to host the NHRA's street legal racing.
>
>    The strip, designed for street cars to race in a controlled environment,
> will be located on the south side of the speedway in a parking lot behind
> the main grandstands. A concrete launch pad will be built in the lot, along
> with a temporary starting stand and timing system.
>
>    The first weekend of racing is scheduled for Sept. 8-9. The track plans
> to host additional weekends on Sept. 22-23 and Oct. 6-7. Winter and summer
> racing schedules also are planned.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

SCVCOA.org has just reached its 1st milestone:

10,000 Hits.

Thanks to all who have taken over design and updating to the site.

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I'm forwarding this in case any of you can help Tobias locate a P1800. Please
email him directly at tobiapsel@... if you can help.
Dave Barton

From: "tobias apsel" <tobiapsel@...>
To: dbarton@...
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:02:03

i am searching for a for a pre '65 P1800 that is in driving condition but maybe
needs some restoration. if you have some info please let me know.
cheers
tobias

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I'm forwarding a request for a Volvo shop recommendation in the
Glendora-San Dimas area.  Anyone near there?
Dave Barton

Richard writes:
> A friend of mine has a '77 Volvo 245 DL which she took to a shop for
> repairs to the transmission shifter. The
> shop (which was in Glendora) fixed the shifter with Audi parts, and
> the reverse cuff no longer works so it is
> very easy to go into reverse instead of First. The person at the shop
> told her that 245 DL parts are very
> expensive, so that fixed it the way they did to save her money.
> (Note: she did not ask them to do this, having
> the thing work right was the highest priority.) She is a timid driver
> and isn't using the car at all now because
> she's afraid she will make a mistake in traffic and cause an
> accident.
>
> Can you recommend a good shop which is not too far away from the San
> Dimas/Glendora area and that will do
> this job right? I would be most obliged for the assistance.

I'm forwarding a message below from regarding her '98 S90 for sale in SoCal. 
For further details, please contact Tania directly.

From: Tania Nordstrom <TNordstrom@...>
    To: "'dbarton@...'" <dbarton@...>
    Subject:
    Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:52:17 -0700

    I have a 98 S90 I want to sell - is there a venue within your organization
    to do that?  It has 38000 miles and is in EXCELLENT condition.
    Thanks for your help!
    ________________________
    Tania Nordstrom
    Director Recruitment Advertising
    101communications
    tnordstrom@...
    (818) 734-1520 x240



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Please note new email address
avatarjp@...
Peace and Titan

Johnny Parker

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Barton [mailto:dbarton@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:50 PM
To: scvcoanews@yahoogroups.com; scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scvcoa-discussion] Volvo's at the 1st Annual Lake Elsinore Rod Run

Hi everybody,
I'm sending this through our SCVCOA Announcements list and our SCVCOA
Discussion list as I would like to hear some feedback on this.  If you are
not yet subscribed to the Discussion list and would like to be, feel free to
click on the Yahoo Groups Join button on our web page at
http://www.scvcoa.org.

Here's the news:
Lake Elsinore (Riverside County) is going to be sponsoring their First
Annual Rod Run on Saturday, August 4th (9 am to 4 pm).  The event will be
open to all Hot Rods, Customs, Classics, Trucks, Harleys, and Special
Interest.  They will also be recognizing club participation.  They will be
closing down Main Street and making room for up to 800 cars.  A bunch of
other stuff will be going on too with vendors, drawings, etc., and the car
event will be judged.  I called the promoter today and they welcome our
participation as a club with any and all Volvo's that would like to
participate.  Registration will be $20 and will include a free t-shirt if
registered by June 28th.  I have flyers and registration forms for all who
are interested and I would like to hear some feedback from any of you who
might like to participate.
Thanks,
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Hi Mark,

Yes, the center armrest is for the 240. It has a new leather cover on
it. It was custom made. The center part is all leather and sides are
matching vinal. I am asking $80 firm for it.

The Turbo wheels are newly sand blasted and poweder-coated clear, not
painted. Because they are clear coated, they have matt metal color
rather than bright silver color. They come with good center pices and
lug nuts. They are $350 firm.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks,
Jay


Rennsurfer@... wrote:
>
> Greetings Jay, I'm interested in the Turbo wheels and the center armrest.
> Is that armrest for a 240? I have an '87 245 wagon, and would like to add
> an armrest.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mark "Sumdumsurfer" K.
>
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Hi everybody,
I'm sending this through our SCVCOA Announcements list and our SCVCOA Discussion
list as I would like to hear some feedback on this.  If you are not yet
subscribed to the Discussion list and would like to be, feel free to click on
the Yahoo Groups Join button on our web page at http://www.scvcoa.org.

Here's the news:
Lake Elsinore (Riverside County) is going to be sponsoring their First Annual
Rod Run on Saturday, August 4th (9 am to 4 pm).  The event will be open to all
Hot Rods, Customs, Classics, Trucks, Harleys, and Special Interest.  They will
also be recognizing club participation.  They will be closing down Main Street
and making room for up to 800 cars.  A bunch of other stuff will be going on too
with vendors, drawings, etc., and the car event will be judged.  I called the
promoter today and they welcome our participation as a club with any and all
Volvo's that would like to participate.  Registration will be $20 and will
include a free t-shirt if registered by June 28th.  I have flyers and
registration forms for all who are interested and I would like to hear some
feedback from any of you who might like to participate.
Thanks,
Dave Barton

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Greetings Jay, I'm interested in the Turbo wheels and the center armrest.
Is that armrest for a 240? I have an '87 245 wagon, and would like to add
an armrest.

Thanks in advance,
Mark "Sumdumsurfer" K.

Hi there,

I am a new member looking for a 83" 242 Flathood for a reasonable price.
If anyone know of a lead, let me know.

I also have some good 240 parts for sale:
1. UNCRACKED 88" 240 dash black w/ baige corners
2. Center arm-rest with new black leather cover
3. Newly clear powder-coated turbo wheels
4. Almost new Monroe Senseatrack struts and shocks with good warranty
5. Rear bumper

If anybody is interested, let me know. I am in Orange County, CA.

Thanks,
Jay Chee

A friend of mine is offering a Volvo for sale if anyone is interested.
His contact info is below.
Dave Barton

93 850 GLT, white with gray cloth interior, 96k miles.  New tranny and
radiator in the last year. Alloy wheels. Very clean car. Just got a good
deal on a 2000 V70 AWD so the '93 needs a new home. Asking $8K.

Russell, Poway (San Diego County)
russellp@...
858-748-3034

Ok gang,
The following will be in the works shortly.
We will be using two groups for mass email contact:

(1)The scvcoa group (the one your reading right now) will be kept as
a voluntary open discussion group for all scvcoa member who wish to
participate in discussions with other members.  I have close to 90
member email addresses and I will send out invitations to all.  I
have settings programmed so that only members who have joined the
group may post messages to everyone.  This will keep out riff-raff
from the public.  Discussion topics will be open, but certainly
should be Volvo or scvcoa related.

(2)The scvcoanews group, which I just created, will be used for
official club announcements.  It is configured so it will not accept
any replies or messages for discussion.  Only selected moderators
will be permitted access to make announcements to the group.  I will
begin inputting our email list shortly so this will begin.

These groups will make my life a little easier when sending out group
announcements, as with the current configuation I must divide each
group message to go to a max of 20 emails at a time (spam
constraints).  The Yahoo group will also allow people to subscribe
from our web page, or unsubscribe on their own if they wish.

Shortly, I will send out a group message the old way making basically
the same announcement to all our subscribers.  My goal is to make
this as user friendly as possible, so our less technical members
won't get lost in all the technology.  If you have any comments...
good, bad, agreement, disagreement... please let me know.

An FYI aside:
I am also collecting snailmail addresses at our meets as there are
still a bunch of SoCal Volvo owners who do not have marvels like
email.  So if any of you happen to come across a local VCOA member
who doesn't have email and they would like to get periodic club
announcements by mail (I can't promise how periodic though), please
forward to info.
Thanks,
Your faithful buddy,
Dave

Sounds good Dave.

Mike

--- Dave Barton <dbarton@...> wrote:
> I asked Lee Cordner how he was handling the
> discussion board for his
> chapter up north.  He's always a good source of
> wisdom.  Here it is...
>
> Here is how we handle the board.  Gary Lodge started
> ours, and I
> publicize
>    it in emails from time to time.   I say that it
> is another forum
> that allows
>    two way communication between the people who are
> interested, and if
> you want
>    more Volvo emails and more contact with other
> club members, join
> up.  I
>    continue to use our main email list to publicize
> events, like you
> are doing,
>    and encourage people to use the board to ask
> questions, make
> inquiries about
>    parts, etc.  I get a lot of people calling up
> with an old car or
> parts who
>    want me to help sell it.  I don't want to bother
> the whole list
> with this
>    stuff, but all the true crazies are on the board,
> so I send that
> stuff out
>    in that forum.  I just treat it like it is
> another email list
> targeted
>    toward the nuts (self selected)  I have about 300
> members on the
> email list,
>    and I think there are about 40 on the board.  It
> allows some 2 way
>    communication between those who have signed up
> for it, but allows
> me to
>    control the content going out to the general
> membership.  I think
> that is
>    important, because there are folks out there who
> will send gun
> stuff, or
>    right wing, or left wing, or anti abortion stuff
> or other crap that
> doesn't
>    belong.  Nobody has tried that on the board, yet.
>   Seems to be
> working
>    fine.
>
>    Hope this helps.  I'm sure it isn't the only
> answer, but it is
> working fine
>    for us.
>
>


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I asked Lee Cordner how he was handling the discussion board for his
chapter up north.  He's always a good source of wisdom.  Here it is...

Here is how we handle the board.  Gary Lodge started ours, and I
publicize
    it in emails from time to time.   I say that it is another forum
that allows
    two way communication between the people who are interested, and if
you want
    more Volvo emails and more contact with other club members, join
up.  I
    continue to use our main email list to publicize events, like you
are doing,
    and encourage people to use the board to ask questions, make
inquiries about
    parts, etc.  I get a lot of people calling up with an old car or
parts who
    want me to help sell it.  I don't want to bother the whole list
with this
    stuff, but all the true crazies are on the board, so I send that
stuff out
    in that forum.  I just treat it like it is another email list
targeted
    toward the nuts (self selected)  I have about 300 members on the
email list,
    and I think there are about 40 on the board.  It allows some 2 way
    communication between those who have signed up for it, but allows
me to
    control the content going out to the general membership.  I think
that is
    important, because there are folks out there who will send gun
stuff, or
    right wing, or left wing, or anti abortion stuff or other crap that
doesn't
    belong.  Nobody has tried that on the board, yet.   Seems to be
working
    fine.

    Hope this helps.  I'm sure it isn't the only answer, but it is
working fine
    for us.

Michelle has signed on to the list....
Welcome Michelle,
I received notification that you signed up for the SCVCOA discussion board.  A
few of us have been discussing pros and cons with this program.  I have not
publicized the list to the general membership yet.  I want to see how this
operates and get some feedback from you and a few others before we decide if
we'll use this board and how we'll set the parameters.  This particular one is
the same one that Lee Cordner uses for the Bay Area Chapter.  It can be
configured as it is now, as a regular discussion board, or it can be fine tuned.
It can also be changed to an announcement only forum where list moderators are
the only ones that can input messages.  But I kind of like the idea that members
can offer feedback and share info, as long as it doesn't get stupid with jabber
or chit-chat.  It's a good tool for sharing important info about events as long
as people use it.  Right now I have the program set for messages to be
unmoderated.

Anyway, if you would like to review the previous discussion messages, go to the
Yahoo Groups site... http://groups.yahoo.com/ log in and select messages. 
Please feel free to post your thoughts to this board.
Thanks,
Dave


Dave Barton, '80 242 DL, 84 245Ti, 90 744 Turbo
President, Southern California Chapter
Volvo Club of America
dbarton@...
http://www.SCVCOA.org
http://www.linkline.com/personal/dbarton

This is a group message from the SoCal chapter of the Volvo Club of America.  If
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Well,
This list is also highly tunable and limits can be programed.  If absolutely
necessary, it can either be fully moderated or even turned into an announcement
only list where no discussion is permitted, except by selected moderators.  So
it has flexability.
Dave

>To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
>From: Michael Theman <michael240@...>
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:13:34 -0700 (PDT)
>Reply-To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
>SUBJECT
>Good point Dave.  maybe if we just let people know
>that the Yahoo group is strictly as a mailing list to
>foster communications.
>
>Mike
>
>--- Dave Barton <dbarton@...> wrote:
>> Good point Michael.  It's a gamble.  The problem I
>> was having with the other method of sending out mass
>> emails, when I received feedback from someone, it
>> went to me only and was not shared with the group
>> unless I turned the mail around and sent it again as
>> a mass email.  I don't want this to turn into a chat
>> room either, but if someone has an issue or idea for
>> the group, or maybe a question about finding a
>> mechanic in their town, this would be more
>> efficient.
>>
>> I do have the option of signing everyone on our list
>> up and it's up to them to unsub if they don't like
>> it.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> >To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
>> >From: "Michael" <michael240@...>
>> >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:10:01 -0000
>> >Reply-To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
>> >SUBJECT
>> >Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> >I'm subscribed....the only thing I would warn
>> against is that this
>> >group
>> >doesn't become the main source of info on the net
>> about the club.  The
>> >website should be #1.  It is a great way to to post
>> messages and all,
>> >but I
>> >suspect that not everyone on the email list will
>> want to subscribe to
>> >Yahoo
>> >to get information.  You may end up losing a good
>> portion of people
>> >that are
>> >on the email list.
>> >
>> >I had origianlly set up a listbot, unfortunately
>> only about 10 people
>> >ever
>> >signed up for it out of all the people on the email
>> list.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Barton, '80 242 DL, 84 245Ti, 90 744 Turbo
>> President, Southern California Chapter
>> Volvo Club of America
>> dbarton@...
>> http://www.SCVCOA.org
>> http://www.linkline.com/personal/dbarton
>>
>>
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>> http://www.scvcoa.org
>>
>
>
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>http://auctions.yahoo.com/
>
>This is a group message from the SoCal Chapter of the Volvo Club of America...
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>
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Dave Barton, '80 242 DL, 84 245Ti, 90 744 Turbo
President, Southern California Chapter
Volvo Club of America
dbarton@...
http://www.SCVCOA.org
http://www.linkline.com/personal/dbarton

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Good point Dave.  maybe if we just let people know
that the Yahoo group is strictly as a mailing list to
foster communications.

Mike

--- Dave Barton <dbarton@...> wrote:
> Good point Michael.  It's a gamble.  The problem I
> was having with the other method of sending out mass
> emails, when I received feedback from someone, it
> went to me only and was not shared with the group
> unless I turned the mail around and sent it again as
> a mass email.  I don't want this to turn into a chat
> room either, but if someone has an issue or idea for
> the group, or maybe a question about finding a
> mechanic in their town, this would be more
> efficient.
>
> I do have the option of signing everyone on our list
> up and it's up to them to unsub if they don't like
> it.
> Dave
>
>
> >To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
> >From: "Michael" <michael240@...>
> >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:10:01 -0000
> >Reply-To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
> >SUBJECT
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >I'm subscribed....the only thing I would warn
> against is that this
> >group
> >doesn't become the main source of info on the net
> about the club.  The
> >website should be #1.  It is a great way to to post
> messages and all,
> >but I
> >suspect that not everyone on the email list will
> want to subscribe to
> >Yahoo
> >to get information.  You may end up losing a good
> portion of people
> >that are
> >on the email list.
> >
> >I had origianlly set up a listbot, unfortunately
> only about 10 people
> >ever
> >signed up for it out of all the people on the email
> list.
> >
> >Mike
> >
>
>
>
> Dave Barton, '80 242 DL, 84 245Ti, 90 744 Turbo
> President, Southern California Chapter
> Volvo Club of America
> dbarton@...
> http://www.SCVCOA.org
> http://www.linkline.com/personal/dbarton
>
>
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> http://www.scvcoa.org
>


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Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Good point Michael.  It's a gamble.  The problem I was having with the other
method of sending out mass emails, when I received feedback from someone, it
went to me only and was not shared with the group unless I turned the mail
around and sent it again as a mass email.  I don't want this to turn into a chat
room either, but if someone has an issue or idea for the group, or maybe a
question about finding a mechanic in their town, this would be more efficient.

I do have the option of signing everyone on our list up and it's up to them to
unsub if they don't like it.
Dave


>To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
>From: "Michael" <michael240@...>
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:10:01 -0000
>Reply-To: scvcoa@yahoogroups.com
>SUBJECT
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I'm subscribed....the only thing I would warn against is that this
>group
>doesn't become the main source of info on the net about the club.  The
>website should be #1.  It is a great way to to post messages and all,
>but I
>suspect that not everyone on the email list will want to subscribe to
>Yahoo
>to get information.  You may end up losing a good portion of people
>that are
>on the email list.
>
>I had origianlly set up a listbot, unfortunately only about 10 people
>ever
>signed up for it out of all the people on the email list.
>
>Mike
>



Dave Barton, '80 242 DL, 84 245Ti, 90 744 Turbo
President, Southern California Chapter
Volvo Club of America
dbarton@...
http://www.SCVCOA.org
http://www.linkline.com/personal/dbarton

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Hi Everyone,

I'm subscribed....the only thing I would warn against is that this
group
doesn't become the main source of info on the net about the club.  The
website should be #1.  It is a great way to to post messages and all,
but I
suspect that not everyone on the email list will want to subscribe to
Yahoo
to get information.  You may end up losing a good portion of people
that are
on the email list.

I had origianlly set up a listbot, unfortunately only about 10 people
ever
signed up for it out of all the people on the email list.

Mike

Group test at 0924 051701


Dave Barton, '80 242 DL, 84 245Ti, 90 744 Turbo
President, Southern California Chapter
Volvo Club of America
dbarton@...
http://www.SCVCOA.org
http://www.linkline.com/personal/dbarton

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