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Electrics done, still she wont run   Message List  
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Re: Electrics done, still she wont run

--- In royalenfield@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm Fisher" <malfisher@...> wrote:
>
> Well, Ive got spark now, a real good one, Ive got petrol, and still she will
not go. Just fires now and then.
>
> Ive tried both of my Boyers, and the cb points set up, all give a good healthy
spark. Ive checked and rechecked the timing relevant to each, but still she will
not have it.
>
> The Amal carb is the easy culprit to my mind, but since there is petrol
getting into the cylinder I see this as unlikely.
>
> Will no airfilter at all prevent starting?
>
> Any suggestions on a default set up of the concentric, just to get the bugger
to start?
>
> Malc.
>

Malc,

I have not been following the list very much as of late due to other commitments
so I'm not sure what all has been covered by others or what things you have been
trying.

My 612 was hard to get started when I first got it together. With everything
being new the engine is tight and does not kick over a freely or fast as one
that has been broken in. Then you have to play around trying to find out what it
is she wants (more throttle, less throttle, more tickling, etc.).

My experience with the 612 and the Amal is that the pressed in pilot jet is not
quit right for the 612 with the race cams. I don't know what your setting is on
the idle screw. The standard setting for most Amals to start with is 1 1/2 turns
out. However with a 612 I would start with 1/4 to 1/2 turn out. Other 612 owners
I have talked to have all ended up with the idle screw at about 3/4 turn out.

I've modifield my Amal to use Mikuni screw in jets in place of the pressed in
bush. I increased the pilot jet size until I could get the screw to the proper 1
1/2 turn out. But before that I was never more than about 1/2 turn out for it to
start and idle.

CJay







Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:55 pm

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Well, Ive got spark now, a real good one, Ive got petrol, and still she will not go. Just fires now and then. Ive tried both of my Boyers, and the cb points...
Malcolm Fisher
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Jul 9, 2009
6:40 pm

... Malc, are you sure you have good compression? That is, valves not too tight, no leaks from head gasket, etc. What you're describing sounds like how my M20...
Damon Fever
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Jul 9, 2009
6:48 pm

... ill not have it. ... I wish Rick, kicking the damned thing over is nigh on killing me. It's my 612 she's got hellish compression well, compared to my 500...
Malcolm Fisher
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Jul 9, 2009
9:05 pm

... How can that be? Are you using the decomp properly? Should just roll over if you start in the right piston position. Too soon and it'll a)be hard as...
Pete Snidal
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Jul 10, 2009
2:24 am

Obviously you need a rich mixture for starting. If bike just fires now and then, it may be that mixture is too weak for starting from cold - are you using the...
umrcc
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Jul 9, 2009
7:00 pm

... This is another important factor I should have mentioned. On ALL my big singles (Bullet, Goldies, M20), they like it flooded. Depress tickler and hold it...
Damon Fever
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Jul 9, 2009
7:14 pm

... The carb is a brand new 32mm Mk1 Concentric Rick, as is virtually 90% of the entire bike, however, I have dismantled it to check it over as I have had...
Malcolm Fisher
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Jul 9, 2009
9:15 pm

... Hello martin I havnt tried holding me hand over, I am flooding it every attempt, say every 6-8 kicks. I have used the air-slide, but it seems to stop any...
Malcolm Fisher
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Jul 9, 2009
9:09 pm

... I've always tickled it until gas starts flying around - out the tickler hole, etc. It takes a feel for the particular bike, but I like to see a little...
Pete Snidal
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Jul 10, 2009
2:23 am

... If you haven't flooded this beast by now, it's one of life's miracles! Have you read the de-flooding rant in my CD chap 2 about starting? Basically, plug...
Pete Snidal
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Jul 10, 2009
2:23 am

... Malc, I have not been following the list very much as of late due to other commitments so I'm not sure what all has been covered by others or what things...
cjayheff
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Jul 10, 2009
2:55 pm

... I had the same problem with my 1970 BSA Firebird after a rebuild, good spark, plenty of petrol but wouldn't start. What turned out to be the problem was...
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Jul 11, 2009
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Thanks for all the pointers chaps, I will take them all on board. Another day trying for a few hours, still no good, but Im thinking this must be something...
Malcolm Fisher
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Jul 11, 2009
11:09 pm
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