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#30 From: William T Wilson <fluffy@...>
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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On Fri, 28 May 1999, Kenneth Preuss wrote:

> is about 300 flywheel HP.  They made a little over 2000 supercharged
> MR2's in the USA.  By way of comparision they made 50 times more 3rd

You mean 5.  There were about 10,000 3rd generation RX-7s sold in the USA,
although counting all three RX-7 incarnations there were many more than
that.  Altogether Mazda has sold something like 3 million RX cars of one
flavor or another.

> following.  I get on average 10 emails a day from the supercharged mr2
> list and have gotton about 10 emails from the rotarylovers page in the
> last 2 months.  I don't know what to tell you.

This is not the only RX-7 related list out there, of course.
rx7@... is probably the biggest, and there are 3rd generation
specific lists as well (which I'm not on).  When I joined this list, I was
hoping for a more friendly, less specific forum (the one at world.std.com
is extremely centered around day-to-day issues with the cars).

#29 From: "Conrad J. Koch" <radman@...>
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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> Rotary only since... uh... maybe starting in '01 :}

> Hello all, I joined this list about the same time as I joined a list
> specializing in supercharged MR2's.  I own a '88 Supercharged MR2
> that is modified to about 170 flywheel HP and a modified '93 RX-7
> R1 that is about 300 flywheel HP.  They made a little over 2000
> supercharged MR2's in the USA.  By way of comparision they made
> 50 times more 3rd generation RX-7's.  The supercharged MR2 has a
> real real strong following.  I get on average 10 emails a day
> from the supercharged mr2 list and have gotton about 10 emails
> from the rotarylovers page in the last 2 months.  I don't know
> what to tell you.  ken]

Is the 88 MR2 the older body style (more square edged)? I've always liked
those cars, but they're a little too small for me. Reminds me of a Fiero...
:] What's the base HP figures for them?

I know it's not an MR2 list, so if you want to email me privately that'd be
cool...

-Conrad

#28 From: "Conrad J. Koch" <radman@...>
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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Hello guys,
     I subscribed to this list about a month ago and your posts are the first
I've seen here.  I guess it is alive but in a very inactive state.  I've got
an '81 base model that I'm rebuilding to SPEC RX7.  Sorry, I don't have any
2nd generation parts.  Conrad, what in the world kind of maintenance costs
that kind of money?  I would think that would buy both turbos, no?
     Regards,
     Shannon DeWolfe


     (DISCLAIMER): When Given the chance, I talk for hours at a time about
these cars... Be forewarned... :)

     I'd love to get another 7, like a GSL SE or some other 1st gen to
complete the collection, but it'll have to wait. Two tempermental Garage
Ornaments are all I can handle right now :)

     The 'maintenance' I've had done consists moslty of gasket replacement
(intake and exhaust manifold), a new pair of motor mounts ($600 from the
dealer!!!), an oil pan gasket and various vacum hoses and what not. If any
of you are familiar with the 3rd Gen, my wategate control actuator hoses
were shot. My mech showed me the old lines and they actually crumbled when
he squeezed them. I was spiking at about 15lbs of boost (normally only
~10PSI), but due to an inaccurate Boost Gauge, didn't even know.Combined
with running overly lean due to the intake manifold gasket leak (some moron
at one point used a cork/paper gasket instead of stainless) I was about a
10th of a nanometer from KABOOM!!!  The Rotary Gods have smiled on me :)

     I'm estimating and probably over-exaggerrating the cost since my
mechanic hasn't given me the bill yet... Alot of labor though since on at
least two occasions we were up until 2 AM diagnosing problems, and that
can't be cheap...

     The GXL's brakes just died one day. It seems the seals in the Master
Cylinder were leaky and after havng sat for about a week they just let go. I
guess that's why they call it an "Emergency Brake" eh? I just have to find
time to get on the ball and throw in a new Master Cylinder.

      Willaim T. Wilson (Bill?) , Haven't I seen your name on the 'Big List'?
I'm getting pretty tired of all the stuff that circulates there and was
looking for a better venue to gab in...

     Later.

     -Conrad

#27 From: Shannon DeWolfe <sdewolfe@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 9:13 am
Subject: Re: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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radman@... wrote:

>
>
> Saw the list, subscribed, figured I'd introduce myself. I have two 7's
currently - an 86 GXL and a 93 Touring, used to have an 88 SE a while ago.
Rotary Only since 96 :)
>
> I know a fair amount about 'em, not *real* deep on the technical side though.
I'm in the process of re-juvinating my 3rd Gen, having recently spent almost
$3000 on 'maintenance' fixes. Both cars are bone stock, but that will change
eventually.
>
> While I'm typing, does anyone have a Master Cylinder for the 86 GXL? I gots no
brakes at the moment, makes it hard to drive :)
>
>> From: William T Wilson
>>
>> As far as I can tell the list is not alive.  :}
>>
>> I wish it were more alive, but as of now, I have to make do with the other
>> rotary resources...
>>

Hello guys,
I subscribed to this list about a month ago and your posts are the first I've
seen here.  I guess it is alive but in a very inactive state.  I've got an '81
base model that I'm rebuilding to SPEC RX7.  Sorry, I don't have any 2nd
generation
parts.  Conrad, what in the world kind of maintenance costs that kind of money? 
I would think that would buy both turbos, no?
Regards,
Shannon DeWolfe

#26 From: "Kenneth Preuss" <supermr2@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 6:02 am
Subject: Re: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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-----Original Message-----
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:17:59 -0400 (EDT)
To: rotarylovers@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [rotarylovers] My Intro - Is this list alive...?

>
> > From: William T Wilson <fluffy@...>
>
> As far as I can tell the list is not alive.  :}
>
> I wish it were more alive, but as of now, I have to make do with the other
> rotary resources...
>
> Rotary only since... uh... maybe starting in '01 :}
>
>

Hello all,

   I joined this list about the same time as I joined a list specializing in
supercharged MR2's.  I own a '88 Supercharged MR2 that is modified to about 170
flywheel HP and a modified '93 RX-7 R1 that is about 300 flywheel HP.  They made
a little over 2000 supercharged MR2's in the USA.  By way of comparision they
made 50 times more 3rd generation RX-7's.  The supercharged MR2 has a real real
strong following.  I get on average 10 emails a day from the supercharged mr2
list and have gotton about 10 emails from the rotarylovers page in the last 2
months.  I don't know what to tell you.

ken]

#25 From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 5:17 am
Subject: Re: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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As far as I can tell the list is not alive.  :}

I wish it were more alive, but as of now, I have to make do with the other
rotary resources...

Rotary only since... uh... maybe starting in '01 :}

#24 From: radman@...
Date: Fri May 28, 1999 3:48 am
Subject: My Intro - Is this list alive...?
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Hey Ya'll,

Saw the list, subscribed, figured I'd introduce myself. I have two 7's currently
- an 86 GXL and a 93 Touring, used to have an 88 SE a while ago. Rotary Only
since 96 :)

I know a fair amount about 'em, not *real* deep on the technical side though.
I'm in the process of re-juvinating my 3rd Gen, having recently spent almost
$3000 on 'maintenance' fixes. Both cars are bone stock, but that will change
eventually.

While I'm typing, does anyone have a Master Cylinder for the 86 GXL? I gots no
brakes at the moment, makes it hard to drive :)

Anyway, that's about it.

-Conrad
www.bit-net.com/~radman
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#23 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon May 3, 1999 4:41 pm
Subject: Serious street handling / autocross
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I've been putting off doing something about my 91 RX's bad handling, until
I got sideways a few times losing a cop a few days ago.  Nothing like a
full-lock power slide to remind you that it's time for some upgrades.

The obvious changes are probably Tokico struts and Suspension Techniques
springs.  I'd love to hear other suggestions on shocks and springs, I can't
seem to find any other options.  Will this make a huge improvement?  What
else should I upgrade while I'm down there?  My goal is for great street
handling along with the ability to occasionally do some casual autocrossing
just for fun.

I have zero experience with RX-7's, though I do have good general
automotive experience.

--
    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

"KEVORKIAN FOR WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN"

#22 From: "Devan Mann" <van3@xxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Apr 2, 1999 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Great gas out
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I like the idea, since price is certainly determined by supply/demand for
this product.  I'm not so sure that buying ahead a day or waiting a day to
buy will make any real 'difference'.  Not to be taken as a flame, cause I
think the thought process has merit.  Without changing the actual fuel
usage over a span of time I wonder if effect would be realized.   What
could make a difference is if everyone decided to change their habits for a
day, or even a week, and decide how they could conserve 10% on fuel usage.
Who knows there could even be some residual long term effect ? Now if some
variation  of this type of demand change were to occur we could possibly
effect desired results.

DM
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> From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@...>
> To: rx7 list - <rotarylovers@onelist.com>
> Cc: Lauri Benton <ResqGirl@...>; Anne Bertucci
<a1vocal@...>; Dyana <dyanad@...>; NATHAN HULME
<hedgehog98@...>; Amy Pellegrino <drippy1469@...>
> Subject: [rotarylovers] Fwd: FW:
> Date: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:53 AM
>
> From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@...>
>
> > Subject:
> >
> >  > Every person helps!
> >  >
> >  > The price of gasoline these days is ridiculous!!
> > So,
> >  > if you want to make
> >  > a statement, pass this on to everyone you know!
> >  >
> > 	 > > Check this out:
> > 	 > >
> > 	 > > At $1.75/gallon, I'm in! Let's see how far the
> >  > internet email storms get
> > 	 > > us!  Wouldn't it be cool to see this on the
> > news?
> >  > Yeah, especially if it
> > 	 > > really did make the gas prices go
> down.....it's
> >  > worth a try!
> > 	 > >
> > 	 > > GAS OUT
> > 	 > >
> > 	 > > THE GREAT "GAS OUT"
> > 	 > > It's time we did something about the price of
> >  > gasoline in America! We
> > 	 > > are all sick and tired of high prices when
> > there
> >  > are literally
> > 	 > > *millions* of gallons in storage.  Know what I
> >  > found out?  If there
> > 	 > > was just ONE day when no one purchased any
> >  > gasoline, prices would drop
> > 	 > > drastically.  The so-called oil cartel has
> > decided
> >  > to slow production
> > 	 > > by some 2 million barrels per day to drive up
> > the
> >  > price.  I have
> > 	 > > decided to see how many Americans we can get
> to
> > NOT
> >  > BUY ANY GASOLINE
> > 	 > > on one particular day!  Let's have a GAS OUT!
> >  > Advance notice is very
> > 	 > > important! So ...
> > 	 > >
> > 	 > > Do not buy any gasoline on APRIL 30, 1999!!!!!
> > Buy
> >  > on the Thursday
> > 	 > > before, or Saturday after.  Do not buy any
> > gasoline
> >  > on FRIDAY, APRIL
> > 	 > > 30, 1999.
> > 	 > >
> > 	 > > Wanna help? Send this message to everyone you
> >  > know!! Ask them to do
> > 	 > > the same. All we need is a few million to
> >  > participate in order to make
> > 	 > > a difference.  And I believe we CAN make a
> >  > difference. It's worth a
> > 	 > > try!
> > 	 > >
> > 	 > > Thanks.
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#21 From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Apr 2, 1999 6:53 am
Subject: Fwd: FW:
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> Subject:
>
>  > Every person helps!
>  >
>  > The price of gasoline these days is ridiculous!!
> So,
>  > if you want to make
>  > a statement, pass this on to everyone you know!
>  >
> 	 > > Check this out:
> 	 > >
> 	 > > At $1.75/gallon, I'm in! Let's see how far the
>  > internet email storms get
> 	 > > us!  Wouldn't it be cool to see this on the
> news?
>  > Yeah, especially if it
> 	 > > really did make the gas prices go
down.....it's
>  > worth a try!
> 	 > >
> 	 > > GAS OUT
> 	 > >
> 	 > > THE GREAT "GAS OUT"
> 	 > > It's time we did something about the price of
>  > gasoline in America! We
> 	 > > are all sick and tired of high prices when
> there
>  > are literally
> 	 > > *millions* of gallons in storage.  Know what I
>  > found out?  If there
> 	 > > was just ONE day when no one purchased any
>  > gasoline, prices would drop
> 	 > > drastically.  The so-called oil cartel has
> decided
>  > to slow production
> 	 > > by some 2 million barrels per day to drive up
> the
>  > price.  I have
> 	 > > decided to see how many Americans we can get
to
> NOT
>  > BUY ANY GASOLINE
> 	 > > on one particular day!  Let's have a GAS OUT!
>  > Advance notice is very
> 	 > > important! So ...
> 	 > >
> 	 > > Do not buy any gasoline on APRIL 30, 1999!!!!!
> Buy
>  > on the Thursday
> 	 > > before, or Saturday after.  Do not buy any
> gasoline
>  > on FRIDAY, APRIL
> 	 > > 30, 1999.
> 	 > >
> 	 > > Wanna help? Send this message to everyone you
>  > know!! Ask them to do
> 	 > > the same. All we need is a few million to
>  > participate in order to make
> 	 > > a difference.  And I believe we CAN make a
>  > difference. It's worth a
> 	 > > try!
> 	 > >
> 	 > > Thanks.
>  >
>
>
>
>

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#20 From: richard <juju34@xxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sat Feb 27, 1999 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: New Guy
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have rx- 7..... parting out...car complete, just has a locked/siezed
motor..every thing else is good, car is brown

send needs via e=mail directly to me

richard in texas

#19 From: Vern Stark <vs4949@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sat Feb 27, 1999 5:03 am
Subject: New Guy
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Hello Fellow Rotary Fans,

Greetings from the Beautiful Pacific Northwest.  I came across this
list while searching through Onelist's center.  I've got a nice,
original 82 RX7, now on it's second engine.  It is a daily driver, but
it still puts a smile on my face every time it purrs to life.  Drop me
a line and let me know if anybody else is out there.  I am in Digest
mode, so it might take a while for me to get back to you.  I've also
busy with a 1948 Willys CJ2A Jeep, slowly going back together out in
the garage.  I've often found myself looking at the little flat-head 4
cylinder, pondering dropping a spare rotary in there...

Regards,
Vern

#18 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 26, 1999 8:25 am
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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At 12:30 PM 2/24/99 EST, you wrote:
>Yes, Mazda does make the 3 rotor engine (20B), which comes in the Cosmo.
You
>basically have to buy a used one and rebuild it.  Nothing sounds as good
as a
>3 rotor, trust me.  Putting one into a 2nd gen RX-7 really isn't as hard
as
>one would think.  Well, it is at least easier than putting one in a 3rd
gen.

Wow, that sounds like a great way to go.  Is it a straight equation on the
horsepower (240HP)?  What is the overall cost of getting something like
that done?

Now it looks like I'll have two similar projects.  My girlfriend is in love
with my car, wants to get rid of her 3000GT overweight monster and get a
convertible RX.  But she also hates the lack of power, so she's already
asking how much it will cost to boost it...

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    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

"KEVORKIAN FOR WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN"

#17 From: GreenUDT@xxx.xxx
Date: Wed Feb 24, 1999 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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Yes, Mazda does make the 3 rotor engine (20B), which comes in the Cosmo.  You
basically have to buy a used one and rebuild it.  Nothing sounds as good as a
3 rotor, trust me.  Putting one into a 2nd gen RX-7 really isn't as hard as
one would think.  Well, it is at least easier than putting one in a 3rd gen.
We just finished our second 3 rotor install in a 3rd gen that is pretty wild.
As far as the 4 rotor, good luck in getting one from Mazda as they are purpose
built race engines.  And the 3 rotor comes set up with sequential twin turbos,
so if you are concerned with longivity of turbos, you might want to skip that
idea.  Also, you have to use an aftermarket engine management system, so that
increases the complexity.  If you want to stay naturally aspirated or
supercharge, a good set of headers and a good exhaust will really open that
Wankel up.

#16 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Feb 23, 1999 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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At 11:35 AM 2/23/99 EST, you wrote:
>I found the easiest way of getting power out of the rotary is
turbocharging.

I thought turbos were easier than blowers, but after looking at the
options, it seems like more work.  Especially since you have to also tear
apart the dash to change the wiring harness if you want to put in a T2
motor.  I'm also very concerned about turbo heat and life here in the
desert.  I killed a couple of turbos in another car, even being careful
with cool-down times and good oils.

>there is no end to what you could do with your RX-7.  We are working on a
2nd
>gen RX-7 3 rotor install, and I will let you know how that goes.
Reliability

I've wondered about that.  It seems like a 3-rotor (or 4...wow...) motor
would be amazing.  Is this something custom, or has Mazda made motors with
3 or 4 rotors?  Hmmm...four rotors and 320 HP...mmmmm...

--
    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

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"Yes."
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#15 From: GreenUDT@...
Date: Tue Feb 23, 1999 11:35 am
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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I found the easiest way of getting power out of the rotary is turbocharging.
If you have the money to buy a rebuilt turbocharged engine and electronics,
there is no end to what you could do with your RX-7.  We are working on a 2nd
gen RX-7 3 rotor install, and I will let you know how that goes.  Reliability
will suffer if not done exactly right, but the power will more than make up
for it.

#14 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Feb 22, 1999 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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At 04:59 PM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Supercharging is a good way to go, just make sure your compression in
>right on because adding that much power can damage the apex seals
>requiring a new motor.  That is why the newer twin turbo motors have a

Yes, that's one of my concerns.  That's why I'm looking for people with
practical experience on doing this.  Since mine is the standard 9.5:1
compression motor, I have to be even more careful.  I don't want to get
wild with it, and ultimate power is not the goal.  I'll most likely use an
intercooler for added safety.  My motor is at 80k miles and has been
extremely well cared for all its life.

>Tokico is probably the best you can use, go with the adjustable shocks
>and use tokico springs.  ST springs are a little too stiff for street
>driving.

Good to hear.  I am extremely happy with the Illumina 2 shocks and their
springs on my Mustang.  It actually rides better than stock but performs
better at the same time.

>Hope this helps,

It most certainly has, thanks.

--
    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

"KEVORKIAN FOR WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN"

#13 From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Tue Feb 23, 1999 12:59 am
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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> The supercharger looked attractive because of the added torque and the
> bolt-on nature of it.  What modifications had you made to your car?
>
Supercharging is a good way to go, just make sure your compression in
right on because adding that much power can damage the apex seals
requiring a new motor.  That is why the newer twin turbo motors have a
running life of only about 50k - 70k miles.  If you find one with more
miles, it's been driven by an old lady.  Supercharging is safer than
turbocharging, just make sure the innards of your motor are tip top.

I lightened the weight of the car, put a 1981 distributor, splitfire
wires, K&N filter, advanced timing, modified the carb, smog legal
custom built RB headers with Mind Train "Big Throats" mufflers, Tokico
springs and shocks, ST sway bars, 15" rims with 50 series tires, front
air dam, rear spoiler, and a centerforce clutch.  I invested about
$1400 into the car builing it from scratch (shell and new crate motor)


> Which gear ratio did you change to?

I had a 4.11 in the rear and a .85 5th gear

I'm inclined to go with Tokico as I did on the Mustang, unless someone
has other suggestions.

Tokico is probably the best you can use, go with the adjustable shocks
and use tokico springs.  ST springs are a little too stiff for street
driving.


  Is this impossible with performance in mind?  Also, what
> chips have been found to actually work?  I can't turn to my usual
> performance shop, they don't know rotaries either.
>

The best place to go for advice in that area is Racing Beat or
Mazdatrix.  The have tech manual/catalogs available for $9.00 each.
Well worth the money.  I owned carburated cars, I know nothing of the
FI in later rotary motors.
> --


Hope this helps,


Keith Foster

#12 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Feb 22, 1999 9:07 am
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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At 08:08 PM 2/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I had a 1980 RX7 running at 224 HP and weighing in at just over 2k
>Lbs.  The only 5.0 that could beat me was supercharged.  I don't know

I have no doubt that this car can produce a lot of power.  What I'd like to
know is how to get there.  It isn't going to be a tuneup and adjustment!
The supercharger looked attractive because of the added torque and the
bolt-on nature of it.  What modifications had you made to your car?

>The 5.0's could easily overpower me in the top speed area as I could
>only go 121 top speed due to the gear ratios, but I would get there a

Which gear ratio did you change to?

>The big advantage is I out handled them by far.  I was able to hug a
>corner and rip right through it while they were sliding all over the
>place of slowing way down to hit it right.  The 7's have a definite

That is also an area I want to work on soon.  I had good springs and
adjustable shocks on the Mustang, and it handled perfectly.  The 7 is a
little mushy and likes to turn in on some corners.  However, I can feel
that it just needs a little help to handle great.  I just put 17's and good
tires on it, which helped a lot.  I guess springs and shocks are next.  I'm
inclined to go with Tokico as I did on the Mustang, unless someone has
other suggestions.

>lot better than you think.  I am not trying to say that 7's are better
>than 5.0's, just trying to show that with alot less money invested,

That sounds good, but I have to say that I spent very little money on the
Mustang to get it where it is.  $1000 for suspension, $1500 for wheels &
tires, and $200 on motor stuff.

But enough of comparing the two; I just have very little experience with
the rotary motors (ok, zero experience), and would like to hear from
experienced people.  For one thing, I'm hoping to keep the EFI through any
changes I make.  Is this impossible with performance in mind?  Also, what
chips have been found to actually work?  I can't turn to my usual
performance shop, they don't know rotaries either.

--
    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

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When they took the 4th amendment, I was silent because I didn't deal drugs.
When they took the 5th amendment, I was silent because I was innocent.
Now they've taken the 1st amendment, and I can say nothing about it.

#11 From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Feb 22, 1999 4:08 am
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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I had a 1980 RX7 running at 224 HP and weighing in at just over 2k
Lbs.  The only 5.0 that could beat me was supercharged.  I don't know
if they didn't know how to drive or what, but I know for being smog
legal in Ca, the RX was running high 12's to low 13's at the strip.
Mind you that at the strip I did a few temporary mods to the carb to
make all 4 barrells open simutaniously and I wouldn't dare drive on
the street like that, but most of the 5.0's I raced were on the
freeway or back roads at night.

The 5.0's could easily overpower me in the top speed area as I could
only go 121 top speed due to the gear ratios, but I would get there a
good 200 feet ahead of them.  I also did not know how well their cars
were tuned, I know mine was done as near perfect as I could get it.

The big advantage is I out handled them by far.  I was able to hug a
corner and rip right through it while they were sliding all over the
place of slowing way down to hit it right.  The 7's have a definite
handling advantage to most other cars, and can be modified to out
handle a Porsche with ease.

With a good combination of power and handling, your 7 would do a whole
lot better than you think.  I am not trying to say that 7's are better
than 5.0's, just trying to show that with alot less money invested,
the 7 could be faster.  Also keep in mind that most of the races I
have won were on a scca type situation with a lot of turns.  All I
know is that the guy in the 5.0 with the supercharger was shocked that
I could keep up, and I think he'll think twice about racing another 7.


Later,

Keith Foster

#10 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sun Feb 21, 1999 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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At 10:20 AM 2/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
>The beautiful thing about rotary motors is that you can eat 5.0's for
>breakfast for very little money invested.  A K&N filter, good NGK's, a
>set of splitfire plug wires and about a 3 degree advance in timing

Sorry, having both cars to compare I can tell there is no way the RX is
going to come close to the Mustang unless I do something pretty major.
I've added the K&N, NGK plugs, Magnaflow mufflers, and advanced the timing
two degrees.  There is no way the RX will come close to the
Mustang...yet...

>should do extremely well due to the fact that it will out rev most V8's.

Yes, it has been a learning experience to get used to driving at high RPM.
With the Mustang I was used to dumping the clutch and driving away from
idle, shifting at 2000 RPM.  Can't do that any more.

>they cost a lot of money for a small increase in power.  If you are
>not in a smog area, headers and exhaust would be a good way to go
>also.  A good setup would cost a pretty penny, but be well worth it.

I am in a smog area, but don't care.  I'll just register elsewhere if I
need to.  I'd thought about the headers and no cats, but have heard it
makes the car very noisy.  Being a convertible, I'd like to keep the noise
done.  The Magnaflow mufflers already border on being too noisy.

--
    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

"KEVORKIAN FOR WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN"

#9 From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sun Feb 21, 1999 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: Superchargers
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The beautiful thing about rotary motors is that you can eat 5.0's for
breakfast for very little money invested.  A K&N filter, good NGK's, a
set of splitfire plug wires and about a 3 degree advance in timing
should get you a substantial increase in power while keeping you smog
legal.  There are of course ways to modify the car enough to blow away
a ZR1 Vette, but the car would not be very streetable.  Your car
should do extremely well due to the fact that it will out rev most V8's.

A good ignition setup would help out a great deal as well, however,
they cost a lot of money for a small increase in power.  If you are
not in a smog area, headers and exhaust would be a good way to go
also.  A good setup would cost a pretty penny, but be well worth it.
I recommend Racing Beat in Aneheim, Ca. (www.racingbeat.com/) or Mind
Train Exhaust in Beverly Hills, Ca. (310-836-4106)

Hope this helps,

Keith Foster
creator of this list
My RX7 is gone, but I am trying to find another


---"Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@...> wrote:
>
> From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@...>
>
> I've just bought a '91 convertible, and really love it, except for the
> serious lack of power (mostly owned V8 cars before, the RX replaces a
> Mustang 5.0).  I've looked at some blower kits, and have found only
one
> which allows you to keep the fuel injection, which I would like.
> Reliability and daily driveability is more important than extracting
the
> very last horse from this thing.  I'd also like to run on standard
pump
> fuel (92 octane).
>
> Does anyone have practical experience with blower kits, and can you
tell me
> how you like yours?
>
> Secondly, what octane fuel do most people use for stock motors?  The
book
> calls for 87, but I am hearing what may be pinging at low RPM
acceleration.
>  I know detonation is deadly for the rotary.
>
> --
>    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way
Galaxy
>                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos
>
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> side, and it holds the universe together..."
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#8 From: "Carlos A. Alvarez" <carlos@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sat Feb 20, 1999 9:24 pm
Subject: Superchargers
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I've just bought a '91 convertible, and really love it, except for the
serious lack of power (mostly owned V8 cars before, the RX replaces a
Mustang 5.0).  I've looked at some blower kits, and have found only one
which allows you to keep the fuel injection, which I would like.
Reliability and daily driveability is more important than extracting the
very last horse from this thing.  I'd also like to run on standard pump
fuel (92 octane).

Does anyone have practical experience with blower kits, and can you tell me
how you like yours?

Secondly, what octane fuel do most people use for stock motors?  The book
calls for 87, but I am hearing what may be pinging at low RPM acceleration.
  I know detonation is deadly for the rotary.

--
    Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
                       http://www.neta.com/~carlos

"Duct tape is like The Force. It has a light side, a dark
side, and it holds the universe together..."

#7 From: "Keith Foster" <fostk@xxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sat Feb 6, 1999 5:42 am
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Hi,

I am the creator of this list and would like to welcome you.  There really
isn't much traffic yet, but there are about 60 members.

I sadly killed my RX7 about a month ago so I haven't posted much either.  I
always listen in to give tech support or info when I can, so feel free to
ask questions to the list.

Richard,

As far as a body shop, There is an excellent shop in Westlake Village not
too far from Tri-point.  They are surprisingly affordable given the area and
demand from very wealthy customers.  They will do anything from a pinto to a
Lamborghini and do it flawlessly.  I know from experience.  I rolled my 88
Toyota PU back in 95.  They had that thing looking new within 3 weeks for a
cost a little less than $1600.  The truck was completely totalled.  It
rolled down an embankment about 6 times.

I live in Redding, Ca now, but grew up in the Thousand Oaks area.  I know a
few loyal 7 owners all around the LA area, a couple are on this list as
well.

#6 From: Richard Tengdin <Richard.Tengdin@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Fri Feb 5, 1999 11:41 pm
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Just joined the list, so here is my intro.

I bought my RX-7 in September of '78 on Oahu, HI, USA.  It is a 5-speed (GS)
with the original alloy wheels.  It was shipped to Oakland, CA when I got
out
of the US Navy in '81, driven to PA, then shipped to the LA area in '85
where
it has been ever since.  I have been going to Tri-Point Engineering in
Canoga
Park since moving to LA, they have done a number of upgrades(electronic
ignition,
mechanical secondaries, sway bars) and my engine rebuild after 240K miles!

The car is currently being stored after an accident that pushed in the left
side
of the car.  The good news is my wife would rather have the RX rebuilt than
get a new car.  Darn, I really hate that! 8-).

The only upgrade I want to add during the repairs is a limited-slip
differential.

We live in Costa Mesa, CA.

Anybody got leads on a good body shop?

#5 From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Mon Dec 21, 1998 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1
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On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Gary Laughton wrote:

> very very little traffic. Good idea but .....

Bummer.  How many people are on the list these days?  I hear rumors of 4.
:}  Was hoping to get some technical information on the 2nd and/or 3rd
generation engines, I am thinking of putting one in a (non-Mazda) car for
an engine conversion.

#4 From: Gary Laughton <gazzer@xxxx.xxxx
Date: Sun Dec 20, 1998 9:06 pm
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very very little traffic. Good idea but .....

rotarylovers@onelist.com wrote:
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#3 From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Date: Sun Dec 20, 1998 2:29 am
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Subject says it all.  Does this list contain actual traffic?  Couldn't
find any data in the archives.

#2 From: Keith Foster <fuqdic@xxxxx.xxxx
Date: Thu Nov 5, 1998 1:39 am
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Hey everyone,

    I just wanted to welcome everyone to this new list.  It is very
small, so far only four members, but tell your rotary friends about it
and we can get this thing moving.
    I have a 1980 RX7 with some minor modifications done thus far, and
many more planned for the future.  I started this list because as of
right now, there is only one other list which covers all aspects of
rotary cars.  I wanted this list to be based more on buying and
selling of parts as well as an information list.  I have a strong
knowledge of rotary powered vehicles so if anyone has a tech question,
just ask.  Hopefully, everyone else on the list can help with answers
to questions as well.
    I am going to cut this short before it gets real boring, but don't
sweat it if there aren't too many people sending stuff in yet.  With a
little time, this list should grow.

Thank You,

Keith Foster
List administrator

#1 From: van3@...
Date: Wed Nov 4, 1998 8:32 pm
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Hi folks,
just got a computer set up at work and have a partner who is a real rotorhead. 
Though I've been in the seat of more than a few my fav is still the Cosmo.  I
have a 74 rotory PU thats waiting on a new mtr.  Got lots of rotary parts in
case there is a need out there.  I don't know the activity level yet since I've
received no posts yet.

later
D Mann

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