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#1153 From: Chris Knowles <cknowles@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:12 pm
Subject: Slightly off topic, engine analyzer for sale
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I bought this years ago for my '64 Rivi when Sunpro discontinued their analog analyzers.
I don't need the tool any more so I thought I'd offer it to my Riv friends first.

This is a sunpro CP7673 analog inductive engine analyzer.
It's a pretty useful tool for tuning up your early Rivi's with points iginition, etc.
It includes the original instruction manual
I'm asking $40 plus shipping.





Chris Knowles



#1152 From: "mike" <kesslerp2@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:11 pm
Subject: '68 riv hose from valve cover to air cleaner
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To all,

I have a '68 Riv and was wondering if you can get or how to replace the hose
that goes from the valve cover to the air cleaner.

Any help is appreciated.

Mike J

ROA# 10935

#1151 From: "pontiaclakeranch" <GaleLakeRanch@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Portable Garage Recommendation
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Thanks for the info.

--- In rivlist@yahoogroups.com, "shipman_dave" <riv9297@...> wrote:
>
> Jim,
> I'm about to go into my third winter with a Portablegaragedepot.com car
storage unit with great results so far.  I bought the silver quonset (round)
10X20 size with one zippered entrance to store one of my 92 Rivieras...its just
under 200" long (the other Riv goes in my garage).
>
> In hind sight, I should have gone with a 12X20 with two entrances
front/back....a little more room to open the car doors and gain entrance from
both ends.  I chose the quonset so that the snow accumulation would just slide
off with little/no effort by me...works just as I anticipated.
>
> I top off the gas tank, add StaBil, and run the Riv for 10 minutes.  I put a
tarp down on the dead soil inside the storage unit, drive the car over it, hook
up a battery tender, put an interior-use cover over the car body, and tie up the
sides of the tarp to the car.  I store my Riv's from November til April never
starting them during that time.
>
> Works for me...
> Ship
>

#1150 From: RANDY BOWEN <randy.bowen@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:13 am
Subject: Re: 1985 engine swap?
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Hello Fred and all,
 
I have just completed a swap of my 307 with a 350.  I chose to go with the small block Olds as it's the easiest conversion.  You could certainly install a 3.8 in your Riv; obviously they were offered when new.  There are a few factors you'll need to consider, and this might impact your choice of a source for your engine:
 
 mounts will be different, also probably the engine electrical harness connections, and possibly the fuel system hook up. 
 
I'd advise ensuring the oil pan of whatever engine you choose will clear the drive axles, and also that the engine flex plate will mate up with your torque converter, and engage the starter appropriately.
 
One thing I discovered (at an inoppurtune moment) that the somewhat pointed nose of the Riviera protrudes out far enough to limit the reach of some engine cranes.
 
I can turn a wrench ok, but am not the most savvy on re-routing electricals and some of the more complex technical issues.  So, being a little lazy, I was searched around and found a 350 from a Toronado for my install.  The Toro owner gave me a great deal on a servicable engine, so that clinched it for me.
 
If you were able to locate an Olds 403, that might be another good choice.  I'd just look an engine with good fit, and best torque characteristics that the 325 transmission could withstand.
 
Let me know if I can offer any further advice or lessons learned....  If you undertake this, take lots of pictures, label all connections, and bag and label all fasteners.  Don't trust your memory for anything...
 
Best of Luck,
Randy Bowen
Dayton, Oh


From: Jayson Pruitt <jhp@...>
To: hlzr88dyna@...; rivlist@yahoogroups.com; randy.bowen@...
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 9:42:53 PM
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?

 

Fred - et al, Randy Bowen has just done this to his 85 and wanted to respond but had email problems.  I'm restarting this thread so he can respond.

--- jhp@airmail. net wrote:

From: "Jayson Pruitt" <jhp@airmail. net>
To: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek@charter. net>
Cc: <hlzr88dyna@gmail. com>, <deekster.caddy@ gmail.com>, <rivlist@yahoogroups .com>
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:43:50 -0800

 
Fred- Your not gonna find anything out there about putting a 3800 into an 85 model.  Most "if" they switch the engine go to an olds 350 or 403.  We actually have an ROA member who's going through this right now!  There is a lot of information on various website about the 307 out there that suggest things you can do to get better performance out of your 307.  I personally don't have any experience with that.  http://performanceo lds307.tripod. com/  A simple internet search using the terms "olds 307 performance" bring up a handful of websites and other message boards where performance tips are offered.  Honestly if you couldn't fix it then upgrading to a 350 or 403 would be ideal.  To add to what Hank told you about the cam bearings there also is an issue with the timing gears having the nylon worn off, the timing will be slightly retarded on these that will make them lack in "get up and go"  Won't make it a race car either though.  Meanwhile there are lots of good discussions on this topic on the ROA forum if you search it.  One such as this http://forums. aaca.org/ f177/350- 455-into- 83-a-262558. html
 
Good luck, let us know how it turns out & let us know if you need anything.

 
-Jayson Pruitt #3412
www.rivowners. org
79-85 Technical Advisor
http://www.cardomain.com/id/sosuzguy
Oil & Gas Minerals www.RoyaltyMinerals .com
Accommodating, yes.  Luxurious, yes.  Riviera?  Absolutely!
1983 Riviera "Cole" http://rides. webshots. com/album/ 360436426gqgulo
1983 Riviera XX "Peter" http://rides. webshots. com/album/ 570754802MQSIYY
1984 Riviera T-type "Tina"  http://rides. webshots. com/album/ 292003839mgmFOX
1985 Riviera "Gray"  http://rides. webshots. com/album/ 113820794IdpFfA
 

--- kaczmarek@charter. net wrote:

From: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek@charter. net>
To: "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@gmail. com>, "Derek Cunningham" <deekster.caddy@ gmail.com>
Cc: <rivlist@yahoogroups .com>
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:54:03 -0500

 

The 307 is "Rapping" most likely from bad cam bearings and worn out cam. Oil galleries are stuck with sludge, oil doesn't get to the cam.  Your #7 cylinder is probably not oiling the rocker arm, lifter and valve.  The 307 I had did the same thing.  replacing the cam and bearings, and run some brushes to open the oil galleries and you'd be back in business.
 
307 cams don't last much longer than 100K before the lack of oil starts to round the lobes off. from what I saw---it's a design flaw in the motor that the oil system gets clogged up.
 
Hank Kaczmarek
----- Original Message -----
To: Fred
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?

 
Hi Fred,
You can probably find more info about this swap on the Riviera Performance forum at www.rivperformance. com.  It could probably be done if you include the transmission, wiring harness, PCM and a little fabrication work on the subframe.

-Derek
(deekster_caddy on that forum)  

On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:23 PM, "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@gmail. com> wrote:

 
Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. I just picked up an 85 Riv with low miles in immaculate condition. The issue is the engine is rapping. I could just have the 307 rebuilt but got to thinking about a newer v6, maybe a 3800 series 2. Has anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it. I have been very unsuccesful in finding info on the web about such a swap. Thanks in advance.

Fred


#1149 From: "Jayson Pruitt" <jhp@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:42 am
Subject: Re: 1985 engine swap?
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Fred - et al, Randy Bowen has just done this to his 85 and wanted to respond but had email problems.  I'm restarting this thread so he can respond.

--- jhp@... wrote:

From: "Jayson Pruitt" <jhp@...>
To: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek@...>
Cc: <hlzr88dyna@...>, <deekster.caddy@...>, <rivlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:43:50 -0800

 
Fred- Your not gonna find anything out there about putting a 3800 into an 85 model.  Most "if" they switch the engine go to an olds 350 or 403.  We actually have an ROA member who's going through this right now!  There is a lot of information on various website about the 307 out there that suggest things you can do to get better performance out of your 307.  I personally don't have any experience with that.  http://performanceolds307.tripod.com/  A simple internet search using the terms "olds 307 performance" bring up a handful of websites and other message boards where performance tips are offered.  Honestly if you couldn't fix it then upgrading to a 350 or 403 would be ideal.  To add to what Hank told you about the cam bearings there also is an issue with the timing gears having the nylon worn off, the timing will be slightly retarded on these that will make them lack in "get up and go"  Won't make it a race car either though.  Meanwhile there are lots of good discussions on this topic on the ROA forum if you search it.  One such as this http://forums.aaca.org/f177/350-455-into-83-a-262558.html
 
Good luck, let us know how it turns out & let us know if you need anything.

 
-Jayson Pruitt #3412
www.rivowners.org
79-85 Technical Advisor
http://www.cardomain.com/id/sosuzguy
Oil & Gas Minerals www.RoyaltyMinerals.com
Accommodating, yes.  Luxurious, yes.  Riviera?  Absolutely!
1983 Riviera "Cole" http://rides.webshots.com/album/360436426gqgulo
1983 Riviera XX "Peter" http://rides.webshots.com/album/570754802MQSIYY
1984 Riviera T-type "Tina"  http://rides.webshots.com/album/292003839mgmFOX
1985 Riviera "Gray"  http://rides.webshots.com/album/113820794IdpFfA
 

--- kaczmarek@... wrote:

From: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek@...>
To: "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@...>, "Derek Cunningham" <deekster.caddy@...>
Cc: <rivlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:54:03 -0500

 

The 307 is "Rapping" most likely from bad cam bearings and worn out cam. Oil galleries are stuck with sludge, oil doesn't get to the cam.  Your #7 cylinder is probably not oiling the rocker arm, lifter and valve.  The 307 I had did the same thing.  replacing the cam and bearings, and run some brushes to open the oil galleries and you'd be back in business.
 
307 cams don't last much longer than 100K before the lack of oil starts to round the lobes off. from what I saw---it's a design flaw in the motor that the oil system gets clogged up.
 
Hank Kaczmarek
----- Original Message -----
To: Fred
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?

 
Hi Fred,
You can probably find more info about this swap on the Riviera Performance forum at www.rivperformance.com.  It could probably be done if you include the transmission, wiring harness, PCM and a little fabrication work on the subframe.

-Derek
(deekster_caddy on that forum)  

On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:23 PM, "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@...> wrote:

 
Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. I just picked up an 85 Riv with low miles in immaculate condition. The issue is the engine is rapping. I could just have the 307 rebuilt but got to thinking about a newer v6, maybe a 3800 series 2. Has anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it. I have been very unsuccesful in finding info on the web about such a swap. Thanks in advance.

Fred


#1148 From: "shipman_dave" <riv9297@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:10 am
Subject: Re: Portable Garage Recommendation
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Jim,
I'm about to go into my third winter with a Portablegaragedepot.com car storage
unit with great results so far.  I bought the silver quonset (round) 10X20 size
with one zippered entrance to store one of my 92 Rivieras...its just under 200"
long (the other Riv goes in my garage).

In hind sight, I should have gone with a 12X20 with two entrances
front/back....a little more room to open the car doors and gain entrance from
both ends.  I chose the quonset so that the snow accumulation would just slide
off with little/no effort by me...works just as I anticipated.

I top off the gas tank, add StaBil, and run the Riv for 10 minutes.  I put a
tarp down on the dead soil inside the storage unit, drive the car over it, hook
up a battery tender, put an interior-use cover over the car body, and tie up the
sides of the tarp to the car.  I store my Riv's from November til April never
starting them during that time.

Works for me...
Ship

#1147 From: Derek Cunningham <deekster.caddy@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:58 am
Subject: Re: Portable Garage Recommendation
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Hi Jim,

My experiences are from a friend who couldn't anchor his down properly.  It cost him about $4000 in bodywork.  But I know of others who have had better luck.  I guess all I'm saying is to be very sure of your anchor points with whatever you get.

-Derek

On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:28 PM, "pontiaclakeranch" <GaleLakeRanch@...> wrote:

 

Anyone have any experience with any of the "portable" garage structures that are available? The ones with the tubular steel frame and pvc/tarp coverings.

I'm looking for one to store a car.

Jim.
ROA #7648


#1146 From: "pontiaclakeranch" <GaleLakeRanch@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:28 am
Subject: Portable Garage Recommendation
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Anyone have any experience with any of the "portable" garage structures that are
available?  The ones with the tubular steel frame and pvc/tarp coverings.

I'm looking for one to store a car.

Jim.
ROA #7648

#1145 From: "Jayson Pruitt" <jhp@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: 1985 engine swap?
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Fred- Your not gonna find anything out there about putting a 3800 into an 85 model.  Most "if" they switch the engine go to an olds 350 or 403.  We actually have an ROA member who's going through this right now!  There is a lot of information on various website about the 307 out there that suggest things you can do to get better performance out of your 307.  I personally don't have any experience with that.  http://performanceolds307.tripod.com/  A simple internet search using the terms "olds 307 performance" bring up a handful of websites and other message boards where performance tips are offered.  Honestly if you couldn't fix it then upgrading to a 350 or 403 would be ideal.  To add to what Hank told you about the cam bearings there also is an issue with the timing gears having the nylon worn off, the timing will be slightly retarded on these that will make them lack in "get up and go"  Won't make it a race car either though.  Meanwhile there are lots of good discussions on this topic on the ROA forum if you search it.  One such as this http://forums.aaca.org/f177/350-455-into-83-a-262558.html
 
Good luck, let us know how it turns out & let us know if you need anything.

 
-Jayson Pruitt #3412
www.rivowners.org
79-85 Technical Advisor
http://www.cardomain.com/id/sosuzguy
Oil & Gas Minerals www.RoyaltyMinerals.com
Accommodating, yes.  Luxurious, yes.  Riviera?  Absolutely!
1983 Riviera "Cole" http://rides.webshots.com/album/360436426gqgulo
1983 Riviera XX "Peter" http://rides.webshots.com/album/570754802MQSIYY
1984 Riviera T-type "Tina"  http://rides.webshots.com/album/292003839mgmFOX
1985 Riviera "Gray"  http://rides.webshots.com/album/113820794IdpFfA
 

--- kaczmarek@... wrote:

From: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek@...>
To: "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@...>, "Derek Cunningham" <deekster.caddy@...>
Cc: <rivlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:54:03 -0500

 

The 307 is "Rapping" most likely from bad cam bearings and worn out cam. Oil galleries are stuck with sludge, oil doesn't get to the cam.  Your #7 cylinder is probably not oiling the rocker arm, lifter and valve.  The 307 I had did the same thing.  replacing the cam and bearings, and run some brushes to open the oil galleries and you'd be back in business.
 
307 cams don't last much longer than 100K before the lack of oil starts to round the lobes off. from what I saw---it's a design flaw in the motor that the oil system gets clogged up.
 
Hank Kaczmarek
----- Original Message -----
To: Fred
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?

 
Hi Fred,
You can probably find more info about this swap on the Riviera Performance forum at www.rivperformance.com.  It could probably be done if you include the transmission, wiring harness, PCM and a little fabrication work on the subframe.

-Derek
(deekster_caddy on that forum)  

On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:23 PM, "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@...> wrote:

 
Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. I just picked up an 85 Riv with low miles in immaculate condition. The issue is the engine is rapping. I could just have the 307 rebuilt but got to thinking about a newer v6, maybe a 3800 series 2. Has anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it. I have been very unsuccesful in finding info on the web about such a swap. Thanks in advance.

Fred


#1144 From: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:54 am
Subject: Re: 1985 engine swap?
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The 307 is "Rapping" most likely from bad cam bearings and worn out cam. Oil galleries are stuck with sludge, oil doesn't get to the cam.  Your #7 cylinder is probably not oiling the rocker arm, lifter and valve.  The 307 I had did the same thing.  replacing the cam and bearings, and run some brushes to open the oil galleries and you'd be back in business.
 
307 cams don't last much longer than 100K before the lack of oil starts to round the lobes off. from what I saw---it's a design flaw in the motor that the oil system gets clogged up.
 
Hank Kaczmarek
----- Original Message -----
To: Fred
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [rivlist] 1985 engine swap?

 

Hi Fred,
You can probably find more info about this swap on the Riviera Performance forum at www.rivperformance.com.  It could probably be done if you include the transmission, wiring harness, PCM and a little fabrication work on the subframe.

-Derek
(deekster_caddy on that forum)  

On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:23 PM, "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. I just picked up an 85 Riv with low miles in immaculate condition. The issue is the engine is rapping. I could just have the 307 rebuilt but got to thinking about a newer v6, maybe a 3800 series 2. Has anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it. I have been very unsuccesful in finding info on the web about such a swap. Thanks in advance.

Fred


#1143 From: "jollyjohnforever" <friendlyfinanceco@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:33 am
Subject: 1995-1997 Riviera Wheel Center Caps For Sale
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I have three Riviera center wheel caps for sale as a group. They have the black
and silver "R" logo center. These are the correct "flat" center caps for 1995
and 1996 Riviera, but don't recall if they are also the right logo for the 1997.

ALL of the retaining clips on the back are totally intact on each of these caps.
These are the tension clips that like to break off over time!

Get all three caps for $35 total, INCLUDING shipping in the U.S. Please email me
for photos and a condition description of each cap. Thanks. John in Wisconsin

#1142 From: Derek Cunningham <deekster.caddy@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:35 am
Subject: Re: 1985 engine swap?
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Hi Fred,
You can probably find more info about this swap on the Riviera Performance forum at www.rivperformance.com.  It could probably be done if you include the transmission, wiring harness, PCM and a little fabrication work on the subframe.

-Derek
(deekster_caddy on that forum)  

On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:23 PM, "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@...> wrote:

 

Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. I just picked up an 85 Riv with low miles in immaculate condition. The issue is the engine is rapping. I could just have the 307 rebuilt but got to thinking about a newer v6, maybe a 3800 series 2. Has anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it. I have been very unsuccesful in finding info on the web about such a swap. Thanks in advance.

Fred


#1141 From: "blue69_442" <blue69_442@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:42 am
Subject: 83 Convertible for sale in Alabama
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Hey folks,

My neighbor has his '83 Riv convertible for sale.
It has 79k miles and is decent condition, but needs some loving care.

Its white/white top and red interior.

He's asking $7k (which I think is a bit much) though he just dropped $1,900 on
an engine rebuild. He keeps it garaged.

If anyone is interested, drop me a note and I'll forward his contact info.

Ed Wensell
ROA #10666

#1140 From: "Fred" <hlzr88dyna@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:23 pm
Subject: !985 engine swap?
hlzr88dyna
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Hello everyone, I'm new to this list. I just picked up an 85 Riv with low miles
in immaculate condition. The issue is the engine is rapping. I could just have
the 307 rebuilt but got to thinking about a newer v6, maybe a 3800 series 2. Has
anyone done this or know of anyone that's done it. I have been very unsuccesful
in finding info on the web about such a swap. Thanks in advance.

Fred

#1139 From: "wiredandwireless" <wiredandwireless@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:26 pm
Subject: Original Roa list gone.
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Hey folks, So I have stuck with the original list and not really used this group
list. I am sad that Chris K has given up the original list. I liked it better
(Old dogs new tricks sort of thing.. Ya know). Anyway moving to today does
anyone know how to add this group to my my Yahoo front page? Thanks Shelly B ROA
9001 65 Riv

#1138 From: "Jimi" <jimiejackson@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:06 pm
Subject: 70 Riv
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Looking to buy a 1970 Riviera GS in the Ohio area. Anyone selling nearby?

#1137 From: "James Alexander" <zipperad@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:11 pm
Subject: can I get a hand with my '65 Riv in Austin, TX?
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What do you think boys? Should we recommend a ‘Viking Funeral’? Her situation does sound like that is the answer. Just trying to help, you know.

                                                            Jeeves


#1136 From: "thevicfox" <candywhiplash@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:48 pm
Subject: can I get a hand with my '65 Riv in Austin, TX?
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Hey Friends,

My car has been sitting for a few weeks since it returned from the mechanics. A
few weeks ago it was running and driving, albeit with a blown head gasket. Now,
I can get it started but can't keep it running. I just set the air filter on
fire trying to get it started with starting fluid.

I want to sell it (no this is not an ad soliciting the sale of my car) and I
need to get it running ASAP. I'm all tapped out of time and money with this car
and can't afford any more mechanics and I don't have enough tools or knowledge
of my engine to get it working myself. If any Riviera owners in the Austin area
want to come over and check it out and help me get it started, I'd gladly give
you a few dollars and bake you some brownies or something.

Email me at candywhiplash@... if you think you can help.
I'm just north of 51st & Airport.

Thanks,
Victoria

#1135 From: "cjpollak" <candjpollak@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:12 pm
Subject: Wanted: Real nice 64/65 Riviera
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Hi,

I am looking to buy a real nice 65 Riviera, would also consider a 64.  Original,
restored or tatefully done custom.  I am looking for a "Done" car, no projects
please.  GS would be great, but not a requirement.  Local car show quality or
better.



Thanks in advance, Chris

candjpollak@...

#1134 From: John Lincicum <eightinchnail29@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:33 am
Subject: Re: Dropped the Nail and the OD trans in
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Hi Dave,
 
In July 2006 I had a TH200-4R OD tranny put in my 1974 Buick Riviera, also.  It fit perfectly behind my 455.  I had mine custom built by Tranztech Transmissions in Dubuque, IA with kevlar bands and clutchs, 48 mph shift servo, RV/Towing shift kit, and lock up torque converter.  I have put 43,000 miles on it so far.  The first year alone (from August 5th, 2006-August 4th, 2007) I put 22,230 miles on it!  I drove the car from Elizabeth, Illinois to Albuquerque, New Mexico 1400 miles one way, to Phoenix, Arizona twice, and out to LA-Long Beach area then down to about 35 miles north of San Diego and back to Albuquerque while on vacation in 2007.  I pulled a 6' X 12' U-Haul tandem axle trailer with washer, dryer, stove, queen size bed frame (no queen size mattress), 2 twin size bunk bed frames (wooden and steel), 4 twin size mattresses, and a lot of clothes and other stuff stuffed inside the trailer, besides having the front passenger seat full, the rear seat full with a computer, and the trunk completely full!  The 6' X 12' U-Haul trailer empty weighs 2000 lbs alone!  That was in July 2008 (nice and hot out in Albuquerque and hot and humid in the midwest) from Albuquerque back up to Elizabeth, Illinois 1400 miles (again) at 75 mph using mostly Shell 91 octane premium gas, I got 10 mpg!  If anybody is seriously thinking about installing a TH200-4R in their Riviera or any other model, I seriously suggest having Tim at Tranztech Transmissions in Dubuque, Iowa build it up for you.  Their phone numbers are 563-582-5876 or 563-582-3809.  Great bang for the buck at $2400.00 approximately including having a driveshaft custom made to fit, removal of my original TH400 (which I kept), and installation.  My car sat for 6 years, so he even worked on some other issues so my grand total was a little over $2900.00.  And he warranteed the work for a year even though I drove it 2 days later to New Mexico!  How's that for service?  If I was anybody else, I'd have him atleast build the transmission and have it shipped to me!
 
Good choice in tranny Dave!
 
See you later,
                       John H. Lincicum
                       1974 Buick Riviera (unrestored but in the process)
                       455 and car have 227,000.00 miles on them as of TODAY!
                       TH200-4R has 43,000.00 miles on it as of TODAY!
                       cell (505)-319-8230 or e-mail at eightinchnail29@... or at
                       John_Lincicum@... if you have any questions

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, riverdave65 <dave.gee@...> wrote:

From: riverdave65 <dave.gee@...>
Subject: [rivlist] Dropped the Nail and the OD trans in
To: rivlist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 9:05 AM

 
Hey guys, 200 4R trans and 401 went in yesterday to the frame off deal I am doing. Check it out when you get a minute. The motor has all the pretty stuff.

http://www.facebook .com/pages/ 1965-Buick- Riviera/14946103 0162

Dave



#1133 From: "riverdave65" <dave.gee@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:05 pm
Subject: Dropped the Nail and the OD trans in
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Hey guys, 200 4R trans and 401 went in yesterday to the frame off deal I am
doing. Check it out when you get a minute. The motor has all the pretty stuff.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/1965-Buick-Riviera/149461030162

Dave

#1132 From: tmcclu6752@...
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: 86 Riviera problems
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Crank shaft position sensor, Ignition Module or Mass Air Flow sensor issue or a poor electrical connection.  Any one of these could cause your symptom and all are not cheap!  When the vehicle won't start, see if you have spark, that is the first and cheapest place to start!
Tim
 
In a message dated 10/29/2009 3:36:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, catsjc@... writes:
 

I have an 86 Riviera that is randomly dying. I will be driving down the street or sitting at a light. Then I have to wait 30 to 45 min to start it back up, or when I turn it off, it wont start up for a while. I can hear the fuel pump running when I first turn the key on. It's not running rough or displaying any codes. I have been told that it may be a electrical problem. Does anyone know what it may be more specifically be?


#1131 From: Derek Cunningham <deekster.caddy@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: 86 Riviera problems
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Hi Cat,

It's hard to say without some specific diagnostics, but surely it IS
an electrical problem ;)

I highly recommend getting a factory service manual for this unique
car, which may scare many mechanics.  I know quite a few people who
won't touch one because of the CRT.  In fact, you can use the CRT
quite to your advantage - you can actually use it in diagnostic mode
to view the raw output of just about every sensor in the entire car.
Just touch "Heat" and "Off" at the same time from the HVAC page and it
should enter "diagnostic mode", then you can scroll through all of the
sensor's outputs.

If I had to GUESS at a few parts that might be the culprit, it would
be cam sensor, crank sensor, ignition module.  The ignition module is
probably the most expensive of the three, but the easiest to get at.

Hope this helps,
-Derek Cunningham


On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:34 PM, catsjc wrote:

> I have an 86 Riviera that is randomly dying. I will be driving down
> the street or sitting at a light. Then I have to wait 30 to 45 min
> to start it back up, or when I turn it off, it wont start up for a
> while. I can hear the fuel pump running when I first turn the key
> on. It's not running rough or displaying any codes. I have been told
> that it may be a electrical problem. Does anyone know what it may be
> more specifically be?
>
>
>

#1130 From: "catsjc" <catsjc@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:34 pm
Subject: 86 Riviera problems
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I have an 86 Riviera that is randomly dying. I will be driving down the street
or sitting at a light. Then I have to wait 30 to 45 min to start it back up, or
when I turn it off, it wont start up for a while. I can hear the fuel pump
running when I first turn the key on. It's not running rough or displaying any
codes. I have been told that it may be a electrical problem. Does anyone know
what it may be more specifically be?

#1129 From: "Pats Used Parts" <patsusedparts@...>
Date: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:43 am
Subject: Re: Window channel
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Mark,
    Most folks buy a shrinker/stretcher and make up their own. You can buy screw in replacement studs for the trim clips from several of the fastener suppliers.
 
Pat Gaglione
ROA 8209 (NC)
BCA 40119
96 Subaru Outback
92 Riviera
90 Reatta Conv
89 Chevy Van
71 Riviera
59 LeSabre Conv
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: MarkB
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:57 PM
Subject: [rivlist] Window channel

 

Does anyone know an accurate source of rear windshield weld channel?
I have some rust spots that were under the trim and clip brads rusted
that I would like to cut out and weld new channel in for.

Thanks,

Mark Bristol


#1128 From: "MarkB" <markbristol@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:57 pm
Subject: Window channel
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Does anyone know an accurate source of rear windshield weld channel?
I have some rust spots that were under the trim and clip brads rusted
that I would like to cut out and weld new channel in for.

Thanks,

Mark Bristol

#1127 From: "Jayson Pruitt" <jhp@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:58 am
Subject: Re: Vacuum Hose Advice for an '84
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I'm not sure either right off hand buy mine is connected to what I think is the sensor on the passenger fender that measures the barometric pressure?

- Jayson
www.RoyaltyMinerals.com
214-478-2649

--- randy.bowen@... wrote:

From: "randy.bowen@..." <randy.bowen@...>
To: rivlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rivlist] Vacuum Hose Advice for an '84
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:45:44 -0000

 
Hey Folks,

I'm just completing an engine swap on my 84 with 307 (to a 350). There is one vacuum hose connection I can't seem to figure out.

The under hood routing label says it would connect to "Sensor DPS". But, I can't come up with this reference in any of my manuals, and my process of elimination hasn't worked...

Any advice is appreciated. I'll see if I can atch a photo.
Thanks for any advice,

Randy Bowen
Dayton, OH


#1126 From: RANDY BOWEN <randy.bowen@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:49 am
Subject: Fw: Vacuum Hose Advice for an '84
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I'm trying to find the right connection for the stubby light gray hose to the left of the photo.  This is on my 84 with V8.  The underhood routing lable says this should connect to "Sensor DPS", but I can't figure this one out.
 
Any help/advice is appreciated...
 
Thanks,
Randy Bowen

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Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:02:30 PM
Subject: Vacuum Hose Advice for an '84

 

1 of 1 Photo(s)


#1125 From: "randy.bowen@..." <randy.bowen@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:45 am
Subject: Vacuum Hose Advice for an '84
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Hey Folks,

I'm just completing an engine swap on my 84 with 307 (to a 350).  There is one
vacuum hose connection I can't seem to figure out.

The under hood routing label says it would connect to "Sensor DPS".  But, I
can't come up with this reference in any of my manuals, and my process of
elimination hasn't worked...

Any advice is appreciated.  I'll see if I can atch a photo.
Thanks for any advice,

Randy Bowen
Dayton, OH

#1124 From: Ed Raner <eeraner@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:30 am
Subject: Re: <Riviera-list> Rare '63 on ebay
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--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Mark Bristol <markbristol@...> wrote:


They looked right to me too, hollow and crusty, typical
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Raner
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: <Riviera-list> Rare '63 on ebay

Those rivets look just like the ones on my '63 - corroded hollow aluminum.  If you know what you're looking for, you can see the lip of the rivets.  If you'd like, I'll send a picture.  
 
 
--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Michael Henry <henry_md@...> wrote:

From: Michael Henry <henry_md@...>
Subject: Re: <Riviera-list> Rare '63 on ebay
To: "Yahoo Rivlist" <rivlist@yahoogroups.com>, riviera-l@...
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:02 PM

Strange how the rivets are missing from the vin tag.
 
Enjoy,
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Raner
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: <Riviera-list> Rare '63 on ebay

This auction is for a pretty rare 1963 Riviera.  It would be a really nice car for someone living up north.
 
FB 39842, only 158 produced after this one.
Diplomat Blue, blue leather, 425 engine, rear defroster, power windows and vents.
 
It looks complete but also needs a complete restoration. 
 
ebay item 120482173766
 
Ed




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