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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Hard Shifting into reverse (Sam Sharp)
2. Re: Battery/odometer question (Jerry Houston)
3. Re: A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc] (Jerry Houston)
4. Re: Hard Shifting into reverse (Gary Spray)
5. Re: A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc] (Jerry Houston)
6. Re: A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc] (Brad Franks)
7. RE: Shifter small seal question (Bill Cardell)
8. Halfshafts: Sealed? (berck@...)
9. Re: Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies (Johnnycam)
10. Re: Halfshafts: Sealed? (Brian K. Dore')
11. Re: MX-5 Turbo (Jerry Houston)
12. electrical question (Paul Moisse)
13. FA: MIATA pair carbon fiber look door cups 90-97 (Bill Wilner)
14. Re: electrical question (Keith Tanner)
15. They Don't Seem to Mention This in the Manual (Roy S. Rapoport)
16. Re: They Don't Seem to Mention This in the Manual (Tina Csomo)

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Message: 1
From: "Sam Sharp" <ssharp40@...>
To: "Dennis B. Swaney" <romad@...>
Cc: <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] Hard Shifting into reverse
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:06:43 -0700
charset="iso-8859-1"

Cool! I'm glad it turned out to be something simple. If he was paying
somebody to do it the difference in labor would have probably eaten up most
of the cost savings anyway. But those guys who say not to rebuild them are
nuts. I've rebuilt 5 of them, and none has failed a second time. The first
was about 3 years ago. The bore is always like brand new, and I don't even
hone or sand them. The only wear is on the rubber seal.

Sam and Baby, who says *****RAINSUX*****

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis B. Swaney" <romad@...>
To: "Sam Sharp" <ssharp40@...>
Cc: <miata@...>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Hard Shifting into reverse


> Ok, a big thank you to Sam Sharp and everyone else who replied. It
> turned out that Sam was correct in suspecting the clutch system. I
> got an email from my friend tonight and he'd had the slave cylinder
> replaced (he said that he'd read somewhere that you shouldn't use
> rebuild kits) and it seems to have fixed the problem. We are still
> going to change the fluid in the shifter while replacing the seals;
> see my request for info sent earlier tonight. Thanks again, everyone.
>
>
> Miataly,
> Dennis
> ---
> Dennis B. Swaney "I think, therefore I Mac"
> Oroville, California TEAM USAF
> Founding Member, S.A.M.O.A. Team Flyin' Miata
> Team California License Plate Blue Team Valentine 1
> ('90 VIN: 7028)
>
>
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Message: 2
From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
To: <miata@...>, "Michael O'Neill" <oneillm@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] Battery/odometer question
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:11:57 -0800
charset="Windows-1252"

From: "Michael O'Neill" <oneillm@...>
Subject: [Miata] Battery/odometer question

: I've seen lots of Miata archive material with reassuring comments
: about removing the battery for extended periods of time. All of
: the posts mention that the computer very rapidly "re-learns"
: everything after the battery is replaced. Can someone tell me
: how this applies to the odometer reading? What kind of memory
: element is responsible for holding the mileage data?

I don't manufacture Miata odometers, and would defer to anyone who does, but
it makes sense to me that the values would be stored in flash memory, like
the tiny memory cards that are used in digital cameras and mp3 players. The
data, once written, remains intact even when there is no power applied. The
same technology is used to store phone numbers in cell phones. You can take
the battery out to charge it, and when you put it back in, your recorded
numbers are still there.

Jerry & Serrano


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Message: 3
From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
To: "Phredd" <phredd@...>, "MIATALIST" <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc]
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:18:28 -0800
charset="Windows-1252"

Unfortunately, Urban Legend, but a nice one. See:

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Gander&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-adva
nced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100
&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

Jerry & Serrano



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:31:37 -0600
To: miata@...
From: Gary Spray <gspray@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] Hard Shifting into reverse

At 07:06 AM 11/17/2001 -0700, Sam Sharp wrote:
>charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Cool! I'm glad it turned out to be something simple. If he was paying
>somebody to do it the difference in labor would have probably eaten up most
>of the cost savings anyway. But those guys who say not to rebuild them are
>nuts. I've rebuilt 5 of them, and none has failed a second time. The first
>was about 3 years ago. The bore is always like brand new, and I don't even
>hone or sand them. The only wear is on the rubber seal.

I think the reasoning for this is if you are having a shop rebuild the
slave cylinder the labor involved, plus the parts, would roughly equal the
cost of a new one installed. It is always cheaper to rebuild it if you are
doing it yourself.

I work cheap.:)


----
Gary Spray
Topeka, Kansas
Crystal White '90 A (with white Mazda alloys)
Kansas Region SCCA
gspray@...

** WAX? I bought it to DRIVE! **


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Message: 5
From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
To: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>, "Phredd" <phredd@...>,
"MIATALIST" <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc]
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:21:16 -0800
charset="Windows-1252"

Whoa! I spoke too fast! It's listed on the Urban Legend site, but with a
status of TRUE. I was led to believe that if it makes it into their
database, it's legend only.

Indeed a heartwarming story.

Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
To: "Phredd" <phredd@...>; "MIATALIST" <miata@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc]


: Unfortunately, Urban Legend, but a nice one. See:
:
:
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Gander&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-adva
:
nced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100
: &sp-m=1&sp-s=0
:
: Jerry & Serrano
:
:


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Message: 6
From: "Brad Franks" <bfranks@...>
To: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>, "Phredd" <phredd@...>,
"MIATALIST" <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc]
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:05:11 -0800

Try this link instead, it actually goes to the site...

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/gander.htm


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
To: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>; "Phredd" <phredd@...>;
"MIATALIST" <miata@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc]


> Whoa! I spoke too fast! It's listed on the Urban Legend site, but with a
> status of TRUE. I was led to believe that if it makes it into their
> database, it's legend only.
>
> Indeed a heartwarming story.
>
> Jerry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
> To: "Phredd" <phredd@...>; "MIATALIST" <miata@...>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Miata] A little good coming from 9/11. - [absolutely nmc]
>
>
> : Unfortunately, Urban Legend, but a nice one. See:
> :
> :
>
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Gander&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-adva
> :
>
nced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100
> : &sp-m=1&sp-s=0
> :
> : Jerry & Serrano
> :
> :
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> Miata@...
> http://realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata



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Message: 7
From: Bill Cardell <bill@...>
To: "'Dennis B. Swaney'" <romad@...>, miata@...
Subject: RE: [Miata] Shifter small seal question
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:28:25 -0700

Dennis,
RTV is fine, though most of them get assembled dry. You're talking about the
paper gasket from shifter flange to trans, right?

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis B. Swaney [mailto:romad@...]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:30 PM
To: miata@...
Subject: [Miata] Shifter small seal question


Ok, the shop manual says to put some sealant where the seal meets the
shifter housing. My question is what type of sealant? Will
high-temperature RTV work?


Miataly,
Dennis
---
Dennis B. Swaney "I think, therefore I Mac"
Oroville, California TEAM USAF
Founding Member, S.A.M.O.A. Team Flyin' Miata
Team California License Plate Blue Team Valentine 1
('90 VIN: 7028)


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Message: 8
Reply-To: berckums@...
From: <berck@...>
To: miata@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:49:05 -0500
Subject: [Miata] Halfshafts: Sealed?

So I've been given the name of someone who will set up the differential for
me, woohoo. I opted to pull it myself in order to save save quite a few $$.
Took me about 5 hours, but I've gotten it apart. Now for the question...

While attempting to separate the halfshafts from the differential, one of
them went "plucksh, plop". The sealing cap had popped off, and the
incredibly icky gunk insisde got all over everything. And two of the ball
bearings fell out.

So, I figure I probably can't re-use it... I stuck the ball-bearings back
where they go and I can pound the cover back on... But, getting the feeling
that they're SUPPOSED to be sealed, I figure this isn't good enough...

Anyway, I really don't want to buy and install a halfshaft that I don't
need... So, let me know if you guys think I NEED to do this or not....

If I do, I've got another interesting problem... How in the heck does one
get the wheel nut off when the differential is removed? Or is it possible?

And, if I do have to replace it, do I REALLY have to replace the ABS sensor
rotors like the book says? I just don't understand why the book says I need
to do that, but unless someone can assurme me that I don't need to, I
probably would.

And then.. there's the tie rod ends... The rubber on of them is broken and
gunk is starting to seep out. I probably dealt it the final blow while
replacing the tie rod boot.... These are supposed to be sealed too, right?
Meaning I have to replace the whole thing, not jsut that rubber bit?

And... while replacing the tie rod boots, should I add more gunk like the
sort that's under there since one of mine has been torn for awhile now? If
so, just what sort of gunk IS it exactly...

Thanks,

Berck

p.s. When I put it back together, is there a trick for getting the upper
control arm bolt back in? I was not prepared for the amount it sprung out,
and it looks like it's going to take some sort of massive amounts of force to
hold it together while I slide the bolt back in...



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Message: 9
From: "Johnnycam" <johnnycam@...>
To: "@Home NetMail" <rzander01@...>, <berckums@...>, "Jeff
Gehrig" <miata@...>, "Jon Etkins" <eccles@...>,
"Larry Alster" <Larry@...>
Cc: "Miata Outlaws" <miata-outlaws@egroups.com>, "Spokes folks"
<list@...>, "Da Big List" <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:24:45 -0500
charset="iso-8859-1"

Allows you to cut or boost the AFM signal based on a couple of different
parameters. It's a fuel piggyback.

J.


----- Original Message -----
From: "@Home NetMail" <rzander01@...>
To: "Johnnycam" <johnnycam@...>; <berckums@...>; "Jeff
Gehrig" <miata@...>; "Jon Etkins" <eccles@...>; "Larry Alster"
<Larry@...>
Cc: "Miata Outlaws" <miata-outlaws@egroups.com>; "Spokes folks"
<list@...>; "Da Big List" <miata@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies


> Which does what exactly????
>
> Ron Zander
> '95M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnnycam [mailto:johnnycam@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:16 PM
> To: berckums@...; Jeff Gehrig; rzander01@...; Jon Etkins;
> Larry Alster
> Cc: Miata Outlaws; Spokes folks; Da Big List
> Subject: Re: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies
>
>
> APEXi Super AFC -
>
> J.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <berck@...>
> To: "Jeff Gehrig" <miata@...>; <rzander01@...>; "Jon Etkins"
> <eccles@...>; "Larry Alster" <Larry@...>
> Cc: "Miata Outlaws" <miata-outlaws@egroups.com>; "Spokes folks"
> <list@...>; "Da Big List" <miata@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies
>
>
> > Or judging by the fact that if he were looking at the track he would
have
> had
> > better lines, it must have been a television.
> >
> > On Monday 12 November 2001 23:11, Jeff Gehrig wrote:
> > > Judging by his terrible sense of direction it should have been a
> compass!
> > >
> > > Jeff Gehrig
> > > MX-5 Club of NSW #169
> > > AUSTRALIA
> > > ZOOMZOOMZOOM
> > > miata@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Zander" <rzander01@...>
> > > To: "Jon Etkins" <eccles@...>; "Jeff Gehrig" <miata@...>;
> > > "Larry Alster" <Larry@...>
> > > Cc: "Miata Outlaws" <miata-outlaws@egroups.com>; "Spokes folks"
> > > <list@...>; "Da Big List" <miata@...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:50 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies
> > >
> > >
> > > anyone know what that device on the dash is??
> > >
> > > Ron Zander
> > > '95M
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: miata-admin@... [mailto:miata-admin@...]On
Behalf
> > > Of Jon Etkins
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:13 PM
> > > To: Jeff Gehrig; Larry Alster
> > > Cc: Miata Outlaws; Spokes folks; Da Big List; Tejas Miatas
> > > Subject: Re: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies
> > >
> > >
> > > Heh, perhaps that's it.
> > >
> > > Actually, I suspect it probably is a bandwidth thing. I can watch it
> fine
> > > here at work - it'll be interesting to see how it looks at home on the
> > > cable modem.
> > >
> > > Some further investigation has revealed that this is just one of the
> videos
> > > available at http://www.pow.com.au/video_page.htm. Apparently this
> > > particular GT-R has 460kw at the flywheel and 340kw at the wheels. It
> also
> > > appears that it's either owned by or sponsored by the owners of a pub
in
> > > downtown Melbourne. That explains the driving!
> > >
> > > Further evidence of his horrible lines can be found in the "Subaru
WRX's
> > > fight it out with the GT-R" links from that page. This time it's at
> > > Sandown Park raceway, also in Melbourne, and it's available in high-
and
> > > low-bandwidth versions.
> > >
> > > Seems the only time the guy takes the thing out is at WRX Club events.
> > > Probably afraid he'll be shown up at anything else!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jon Etkins
> > > Miata 10AE #1407 BS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
> > > '95 M Edition TBS88 "KITJER" (Hers)
> > > Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:57:32 -0500, Larry Alster wrote:
> > > >Well that answers it then, it works only for Aussies
> > > >
> > > >Jeff Gehrig wrote:
> > > >> Yep, plays perfectly, runs for quite a few minutes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeff Gehrig
> > > >> MX-5 Club of NSW #169
> > > >> AUSTRALIA
> > > >> ZOOMZOOMZOOM
> > > >> miata@...
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Larry Alster" <Larry@...>
> > > >> To: "Jon Etkins" <eccles@...>
> > > >> Cc: "Tejas Miatas" <tejasmiata@egroups.com>; "Da Big List"
> > > >> <miata@...>
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:24 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Miata] Fwd: Spokes: bad driving Aussies
> > > >>
> > > >> does this play for anyone?? I hear audio and see a single non
> changing
> > > >> picture??
> > > >>
> > > >> Jon Etkins wrote:
> > > >> > The Beauty of All-Wheel Drive!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I'm almost ashamed to spread this around since they're fellow
> > >
> > > Australians,
> > >
> > > >> > but this lot deserve it. ;)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The track is Calder Park, Melbourne - a circuit that I've lapped
> many
> > > >> > hundreds of time, though none this badly!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Cheers,
> > > >> > Jon Etkins
> > > >> > Miata 10AE #1407 BS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
> > > >> > '95 M Edition TBS88 "KITJER" (Hers)
> > > >> > Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Let's just be glad these guys are on a track on a different
> continent.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://bne002z.webcentral.com.au/bne_sm026/CalderPark.wmv
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================
> > > >> >
> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > Miata mailing list
> > > >> > Miata@...
> > > >> > http://realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Larry
> > > >>
> > > >> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > > >> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo
+
> > > >> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > > >>
> > > >> LowCountry Miata http://drive.to/lowcountrymiata
> > > >> Masters Miata
> > > >> RAGS 074
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Miata mailing list
> > > >> Miata@...
> > > >> http://realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Larry
> > > >
> > > >White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > > >Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> > > >Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > > >
> > > >LowCountry Miata http://drive.to/lowcountrymiata
> > > >Masters Miata
> > > >RAGS 074
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Miata mailing list
> > > Miata@...
> > > http://realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Miata mailing list
> > > Miata@...
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> >
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Message: 10
From: "Brian K. Dore'" <bkd@...>
To: <berckums@...>, <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] Halfshafts: Sealed?
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:26:49 -0600
charset="iso-8859-1"

Berck said:
> While attempting to separate the halfshafts from the differential, one of
> them went "plucksh, plop". The sealing cap had popped off, and the
> incredibly icky gunk insisde got all over everything. And two of the ball
> bearings fell out.

No problem. Put the bearings back in, the cover back on, and you will be
fine.

> If I do, I've got another interesting problem... How in the heck does one
> get the wheel nut off when the differential is removed? Or is it
possible?

The nut is staked, so you unstake it first with a screwdriver or something.
Then you put the parking brake on, get a socket that fits (It's somewhere
over 1", 1 1/16 or 1/18 I believe) and a good long bar to break it loose.
For us a 6' pipe slipped over an 18" a 1/2" drive bar wasn't enough (bar
flexed and bent), so we made a tool by welding the socket to a more solid
piece. (tire iron from a wrecker) I've heard that 3/4" drive tools should
be fine.

I'm not too sure about the rest of your questions,

Brian Dore'
Lafayette, LA


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Message: 11
From: "Jerry Houston" <jerry.houston@...>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <miata@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] MX-5 Turbo
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:54:30 -0800
charset="Windows-1252"

From: "Brad Franks" <bfranks@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] MX-5 Turbo
: ...
: It's a marketing ploy similar to the BBR systems from England way back
when.
: they only made a limited number of actual Mazda UK turbo Miatae, but the
: kits were sold to private owners in the hundreds all over the world.
Because
: they were the same turbos as marketed by Mazda on stock engines, you could
: buy the kit and install it yourself (or have a pro do it for you) and not
: have warranty concerns. These guys are probably doing the same thing.

Sometimes it can be a matter of homologation, too. Any chance that Mazda
would like to see some of these in competition somewhere?

Jerry & Serrano


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Message: 12
From: "Paul Moisse" <pmoisse@...>
To: miata@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:14:52 +0000
Subject: [Miata] electrical question

Hey, does anybody know how many amps the car draws on a regular basis? ie
the power req'd to run the car, a small stereo and the heater set to "1"

I'm wondering just so I can plan my lighting for this winters' rally season

Cheers

Paul Moisse

1990 classic red

Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:13:40 -0700
To: miata@...
From: Bill Wilner <webmaster@...>
Subject: [Miata] FA: MIATA pair carbon fiber look door cups 90-97

Paid $45 + cores for these last year from R-Speed, now discontinued
from their catalog. They fit any 90-97 Miata. Look brand new.

Ends Nov-20-01 15:15:43 PST

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=598048745

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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:21:40 -0500
To: "Paul Moisse" <pmoisse@...>, miata@...
From: Keith Tanner <keith@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] electrical question

I'm not sure, but there are some high-output alternators for the GTX that
will fit your car if you need more. I've run up to 460W of lighting
without a problem. The heater fan is a huge draw.

Keith

At 23:14 17-11-01, you wrote:
>Hey, does anybody know how many amps the car draws on a regular basis? ie
>the power req'd to run the car, a small stereo and the heater set to "1"
>
>I'm wondering just so I can plan my lighting for this winters' rally season
>
>Cheers
>
>Paul Moisse
>
>1990 classic red
>
>Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:02:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "Roy S. Rapoport" <rsr@...>
To: Multiple recipients of list <miata@...>
Subject: [Miata] They Don't Seem to Mention This in the Manual


We went up to see the great meteor shower tonight. Given that we were
going to be up there for a while, we brought beer.

Upon arrival, we found our beer bottles were not of the twist-off variety.
Hmm. Look around while my door is open, and ... hey!

So the U-shaped piece of metal that the door latches to -- it's a perfect
bottle opener! I love this car! :)

-roy


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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:25:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Tina Csomo <tinabee3@...>
Subject: Re: [Miata] They Don't Seem to Mention This in the Manual
To: "Roy S. Rapoport" <rsr@...>
Cc: miata@...


I had somebody open a beer for me at this past year's Deal's Gap for me
this way, too. :)

I wonder if bwob had anything to do with that little add-on. :D

Tina C.


--- "Roy S. Rapoport" <rsr@...> wrote:
>
> We went up to see the great meteor shower tonight. Given that we were
> going to be up there for a while, we brought beer.
>
> Upon arrival, we found our beer bottles were not of the twist-off
> variety.
> Hmm. Look around while my door is open, and ... hey!
>
> So the U-shaped piece of metal that the door latches to -- it's a
> perfect
> bottle opener! I love this car! :)
>
> -roy
>
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