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Re: [megasquirtnspark] Propane injection

Ford 160# injectors were originally used to gas phase CNG, you can pick them
up on ebay, various fuel injector suppliers, or your local Ford dealer.

Liquid phase is still extremely limited. AFAIK there are only 2 manufactures
of liquid LPG injectors, and they only sell to conversion/R&D companies in
Europe.

The pressures required to keep Propane in liquid phase at normal underhood
operating temps can reach 1,500PSI+ during hot start. Then under certain
circumstances you get into the Supercritical phase of propane where it turns
into a gas/liquid slurry, and you run into SERIOUS AFR problems. Purging the
gas during hot start, Its like extreme vapor lock.

I had considered trying diesel injectors/pump, but since LPG has very little
(practically none) lubricating properties, and making them survive in the
extreme thermal cycle, pretty much made them a no-go. If you could machine
your own pintles/seats and pumps out of ceramics, you might have a shot at
it. The diamond tooling and machine accuracy on parts so small makes it a
real PITA.

Po-Lock




On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Danny Dboy <pohaynes@...> wrote:

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>
> I have been toying with the idea of using the mega spark to run a propane
> injection system. Two ideas I had were liquid injection and gas injection. I
> have found some gas injectors but they see to be mainly sold in Europe and
> to date if have found no one States side who will sell just the propane gas
> injectors and not the whole system.
>
> I am looking at a system that runs only propane, no bi fuel. Turbo charged,
> straight 6. 400+ bhp (I think I can get 600 with the right set up.
>
> Does any one have any ideas about propane liquid injectors? I know GM made
> liquid injection system so it is possible. With this setup accurately fuel
> metering is within the realm regardless of the 1-250 expansion of the gas.
>
>
>


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I have been toying with the idea of using the mega spark to run a propane injection system. Two ideas I had were liquid injection and gas injection. I have...
Danny Dboy
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Jul 5, 2009
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You can buy the Prins (Keihin) vapour injectors with or without their ECU and other parts from their representative in Canada. ... From:...
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Jul 5, 2009
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Quantum Technologies in California manufacture a line of gaseous fuel injectors. You will have to contact them to find a distributor. Liquid propane...
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There have been propane powered cars and trucks in Canada back in the 80šs but that was when carbs were still around. I donšt know if that is still going on...
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Ford 160# injectors were originally used to gas phase CNG, you can pick them up on ebay, various fuel injector suppliers, or your local Ford dealer. Liquid...
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big gas (lpg, butane, etc.) plants use mixing venturies with a manifold pressure sensing pressure regulator. it is purely mechanical, has a broad range of...
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... The new Direct inject gasoline engines use pressures exceeding 1500psi. Try the 2.0 turbo used in the Pontiac Solstice & Saturn Redline or the LLT used in...
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