I would look at a Morningstar Sunsaver MPPT 15.

If you already have a battery monitor like a LinkLite, the sunsaver mppt 15
could be all you need.

If you need/want a digital readout, you can add the Morningstar RM-1.

Unless you mount the charge controller very close to the batteries, consider
adding the remote temp sensor.

I see both on the AM Solar website, and they are commonly available from a
number of sellers.  You're looking at $250-$400 plus install, depending on which
options you choose.

Rich
'03 MB in NC





--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "grzellmer4" <grzellmer@...> wrote:
>
> 2 85 watt panels

Hi, this may sound as an odd request.  We are seriously considering purchasing
an LD Island Bed model. We have been watching the RV classifieds and this forum
for one in the area with no luck.  We have looked long and hard at the floorplan
online but feel before taking off to California or the West Coast to purchase an
used one, we would really like to view one in person.

We have been full time rv'ers & Escapess for 10+ year. David is a retired
firefighter and I'm a retired secretary.

We are presently traveling through Louisiana/Arkansas/Tennessee/Indiana area. Is
there anyone out there that would like to show off their 30' Lazy Daze?

Thank you.

> I would look at a Morningstar Sunsaver MPPT 15.
>
> If you already have a battery monitor like a LinkLite, the sunsaver mppt 15
could be all you need.
>
> If you need/want a digital readout, you can add the Morningstar RM-1.
>
> Unless you mount the charge controller very close to the batteries, consider
adding the remote temp sensor.
>
> I see both on the AM Solar website, and they are commonly available from a
number of sellers.  You're looking at $250-$400 plus install, depending on which
options you choose.
>


I use that model, which is a very sophisticated and well-made design. I like it
because it is small, can be hidden, and does not need a cutout in any panels, if
you do not need the optional readout. Its mounting does have air circulation
requirements, but I have never noticed any heat from ours. It has a maximum
rating of 200W of solar input, 15A output. It is protected against over-driving,
so 170W will be no problem. I am planning to shortly upgrade to 200W solar, from
our current 106W, and am anticipating no issues.

Although I have no solar readout, I do have a LinkLite battery monitor, which is
the more useful tool if you want to minimize read-out clutter.

Steve

It is not an odd request and if you were anywhere near Long Beach, CA, I'd be
happy to show us ours.  We went from a RB to the IB and couldn't be more
pleased.  Every model has its benefits and liabilities.

Good luck,

Jules
06 IB

If your batteries are mounted in the normal "outside" compartment, a
remote temperature sensor is always a good addition, no matter how close
the controller is to the battery compartment.

Rich - 2000 MB - Birch Bay, WA


On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, rsawin wrote:

> Unless you mount the charge controller very close to the batteries,
consider adding the remote temp sensor.
>
> Rich
> '03 MB in NC

Hi George,

Here is the link to the For Sale file on this Yahoo LD forum that will give more
details, including a link for more photos. (Cut and paste this link into your
browser. For some reason it may not link otherwise.)

I am the owner and would be glad to show you the rig at a time of your
convenience. It is in very good condition, but I encourage you to see and drive
it yourself.

Please give me a call. 928-580-5216

Bob

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gHt4T71PzLaNvVE2eVh9KODUxsgYzkjq4v69yc4ScyU822HlXvQ\
Ko-xMaYJVl9Eg8dDsya0Qt_QE0RaOZ9mrNIcLjt8_Y7LWXA/Buying%20%26%20Selling/%20FOR%20\
SALE%20-%20Lazy%20Dazes/2002%2026.5%27%20Mid%20Bath%20in%20Yuma%2C%20Arizona

>--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "deadstroke_98" <poolplayer@...>
wrote:
> Verbatim copy from an ad in today's Yuma Sun newspaper:
>
> 2002 Lazy Daze 26.5 MB
> 6.8L V10, Banks sys, gen, solar, satel rad+TV,
> 144k, 1 owner, stored inside, v good cond,
>
> $31,500
>
> (928) 580-5216
>
> I know nothing about the rig or the owner. The small photo included with the
classified ad looks pretty good.
>
> George
>
> ARBY the RB
> Curvy the CR-V
>

Mine is located 6" or so from the battery compartment :)  It makes for short
wire runs, and the temps are pretty darn close.

You do bring up a good point that I didn't make clear.  Don't mount your charge
controller _IN_ the battery compartment.

Rich '03MB in NC



--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, Rich Gort <rich@...> wrote:
>
>
> If your batteries are mounted in the normal "outside" compartment, a
> remote temperature sensor is always a good addition, no matter how close
> the controller is to the battery compartment.
>
> Rich - 2000 MB - Birch Bay, WA
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, rsawin wrote:
>
> > Unless you mount the charge controller very close to the batteries,
> consider adding the remote temp sensor.
> >
> > Rich
> > '03 MB in NC
>

Thanks so much Jules.  I will definitely make a copy fo your reply if we head
out that way.  LD appears to be an awesome coach.  We really hope we can locate
the one for us soon.  Thanks again, nf

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "Jules" <aceyturralde@...> wrote:
>
> It is not an odd request and if you were anywhere near Long Beach, CA, I'd be
happy to show us ours.  We went from a RB to the IB and couldn't be more
pleased.  Every model has its benefits and liabilities.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Jules
> 06 IB
>

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "nanufree" <nanufree2@...> wrote:
>
> "We are seriously considering purchasing an LD Island Bed model. We have been
watching the RV classifieds and this forum for one in the area with no luck.

Nanufree

Nanufree


You didn't say where your home area is but there are several regional Lazy Daze
groups scattered about the country. The best way to get to inspect the coach you
like would be to attend one of their GTGs {Get to Gethers} when there is one in
your area.

Someone on this board should be able to give you a lead to the Northeast Group,
the Southeast Group and I believe the North Central group. One of these should
cover your area. If not there is a Southwest and a SoCal group also.

And you might be interested in the Caravan Club, the big kahuna when it comes to
Lazy Daze.

http://www.lazydazecaravanclub.org/


Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Jiggs

There is also a Great Lakes regional group.
Bob
'06-30IB

I am new and will be joining the NELD group soon.  The link:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/nelazydazers/
They will be having a get to gather in up state New York this spring. A quote
from the website, "The spring 2012 get-together is scheduled for June 21-24,
2012 at Niagara Falls, NY, hosted by Betty and Bruce Rex. The campground is Four
Mile Creek State Park. Click here for a campsite map."

The group was very helpful.  The visit cemented my choice of manufacture (LD)
and the layout that I thought would be best for how the wife and I see our
camping (we had not owned an RV until now).
John
caught in a MidBath
which is better that caught in midbath.

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "nanufree" <nanufree2@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much Jules.  I will definitely make a copy fo your reply if we head
out that way.  LD appears to be an awesome coach.  We really hope we can locate
the one for us soon.  Thanks again, nf
>
> --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "Jules" <aceyturralde@> wrote:
>

Has anyone here had any experience with the Rand McNally RVND 7710 or other RV
specific GPS units?  The features look good but there have been some unfavorable
reviews.  This group is the best for reliable information.

Bob
'06 30IB

Thanks All.

I think I have the info I need.  Will post up the results after I get the new
parts installed.

Gary

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "rsawin" <rsawin@...> wrote:
>
> Mine is located 6" or so from the battery compartment :)  It makes for short
wire runs, and the temps are pretty darn close.
>
> You do bring up a good point that I didn't make clear.  Don't mount your
charge controller _IN_ the battery compartment.
>
> Rich '03MB in NC
>
>
>
> --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, Rich Gort <rich@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > If your batteries are mounted in the normal "outside" compartment, a
> > remote temperature sensor is always a good addition, no matter how close
> > the controller is to the battery compartment.
> >
> > Rich - 2000 MB - Birch Bay, WA
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, rsawin wrote:
> >
> > > Unless you mount the charge controller very close to the batteries,
> > consider adding the remote temp sensor.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > > '03 MB in NC
> >
>

"I am new and will be joining the NELD group soon."

John, you're gonna have a ball! The Northeastern LD group was the first group of
LDers I met face to face, and they're a great bunch. And Bruce and Betty are
experienced wagonmasters, who know how to unobtrusively keep things running
smoothly so everybody can have a good time.

Andy Baird
http://www.andybaird.com/travels/

Were they able to use the same wiring runs, just pulling heavier wire along the
factory cable routing?

Dan

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "Roger" <r.nickey@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > "Add on to existing seemed much more practical to me"
>
> I have been throught this too.  AM Solar pointed out to me that the factory
wiring for my single panel was not adequate for adding on any more.  They
replaced everything.
>

Getting new Trojans - 105's and need to trickle charge
them for weeks at a time so they are topped off.  Do not
have or intend to get solar any time soon.  Best
way to keep them topped off without overcharging  ??
Which chargers are recommended.
Thanks to group.
Bob

You MIGHT want to look at the charge requirements specified by Trojan before you
get a charger.

http://dcpower-systems.com/uploads/documents/2_T105_Trojan_Data_Sheets.pdf

Dave W

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "bobbytonglyall1" <bobbytong@...>
wrote:
>
> Getting new Trojans - 105's and need to trickle charge
> them for weeks at a time so they are topped off.  Do not
> have or intend to get solar any time soon.  Best
> way to keep them topped off without overcharging  ??
> Which chargers are recommended.
> Thanks to group.
> Bob
>

Nope.  All new.
--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "drw907" <drw907@...> wrote:
>
> Were they able to use the same wiring runs, just pulling heavier wire along
the factory cable routing?
>
> Dan
>
> --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "Roger" <r.nickey@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Add on to existing seemed much more practical to me"
> >
> > I have been throught this too.  AM Solar pointed out to me that the factory
wiring for my single panel was not adequate for adding on any more.  They
replaced everything.
> >
>

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "Roger" <r.nickey@...> wrote:
>
>
> Nope.  All new.

> --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "drw907" <drw907@> wrote:
> >
> > Were they able to use the same wiring runs, just pulling heavier wire along
the factory cable routing?
> >
> > Dan


Roger

The still unanswered question is; Did they route the replacement wires through
the same path as the originals were run?


Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Jiggs

Bob,

I use an inexpensive timer to turn the shore power on to the LD 1 hr/day.  It
seems to work fine for me.  I have left the LD this way for months at a time,
although it would probably be a good idea to check the water ever month or two
if it is convenient.

Barry

From: bobbytonglyall1
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:54 AM
To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LD] BATTERY CHARGERS


Getting new Trojans - 105's and need to trickle charge
them for weeks at a time so they are topped off.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "bobbytonglyall1" <bobbytong@...>
wrote:
>
> Getting new Trojans - 105's and need to trickle charge
> them for weeks at a time...

Bob

Here is what I use for my boat battery for long periods of inactivity. Works
well and never overcharges. This is from Amazon:

BatteryMINDer Charger/Maintainer/D... - 1.3 Amp, 12 Volt, Model# 12117 by
BatteryMINDer
Buy new: $44.00
Steve

"Were they able to use the same wiring runs, just pulling heavier wire along the
factory cable routing?"

Since the factory securely ties down all cables every couple of feet, it's not
likely you'd be able to pull a new cable along the same path. You might be able
to push or pull a new cable along the same general route, but that's not a sure
thing.

For example, if at some point the factory's cable takes a 90° turn and passes
through a hole in a stud or cabinet wall, that may be difficult to duplicate
when working blind with new cable, since you won't have the advantage the
factory did: they install all wiring before the walls go on.

This isn't to say that you can't install new cabling... just that you're
probably going to have to find your own path for it. You won't be able to just
pull it through existing cable trays or conduits, because there aren't any.

Andy Baird
http://www.andybaird.com/travels/

All - FYI
On the newer E-450 chassis there is factory 7 wires going to the rear (past the
differential). One group of 3 wires and another group of 4 side by side. It is
realtively easy to find and change the LD factory 4 prong to a more standard 7
prong. I did this for the installation of a Blue Ox base plate and tow bar for
our 2012 Fiat 500 Sport (manual transmision) Weighing only 2300 lbs it pulls
like a dream. I only needed 4 wires for this application, but the 7 prong
connector is more practical in my opinion.

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, lejest2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, James Jackson <rvfriendly@> wrote:
> >
> > "I have also heard of ground issues with LD's 4 prong wiring. I just wanted
to know if anyone knows if the Ford chassis is [pre wired]. I suspect it may be,
since there was an optional electric braking package for the 2011 E-450.
>
>
> Not signed Jim or James
>
>
> Jim
>
> I'm still not sure where you are going with this thread but if one reads
between the lines you may want to review what Terry Tanner has to say on his
Techsnoz site, file section, #s; Article #59, Notice2, RelayDual, Relay FAQ, and
RelaySingle2.
>
> Something in there may answer the questions I think you're posing.
>
> My reason for the use of a *6* wire connector was to have a charge line to the
toad battery to prevent draining same while traveling.
>
>
> Steve S.
> Lazy Bones & Jiggs
>

Andy has the best answer on this.

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, lejest2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "Roger" <r.nickey@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nope.  All new.
>
> > --- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "drw907" <drw907@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Were they able to use the same wiring runs, just pulling heavier wire
along the factory cable routing?
> > >
> > > Dan
>
>
> Roger
>
> The still unanswered question is; Did they route the replacement wires through
the same path as the originals were run?
>
>
> Steve S.
> Lazy Bones & Jiggs
>

Bob,

For a few years now I've used a Battery Tender Plus when my LD is garaged at
home.

http://batterytender.com/rv/battery-tender-plus-12v-at-1-25a.html

Of course no solar in the garage. I disconnect the shore power and have
everything shut down inside the motorhome. And just the Battery Tender connected
directly to the batteries (I leave the supplied pigtail on the batteries). I
also put one on the truck (starting) battery. Seems to work well, just as it has
on various cars and motorcycles over the years.

I check the water level MOL monthly.

They make waterproof models if it will be outdoors.

Terry
2003 26.5'RB
Gardnerville, NV

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "bobbytonglyall1" <bobbytong@...>
wrote:
>
> Getting new Trojans - 105's and need to trickle charge
> them for weeks at a time so they are topped off.  Do not
> have or intend to get solar any time soon.  Best
> way to keep them topped off without overcharging  ??
> Which chargers are recommended.
> Thanks to group.
> Bob
>

Hi,

Has anyone installed two Lifeline GPL-6CT (300 AH) under the refrigerator of a
MB, coupled with two Lifeline GPL-4CT (220 AH) in the battery compartment?  This
would give me 520AH total (in a perfect world).

I don't think I want to install the 6CT in the battery compartment because it's
a really tight overhead fit and with all the connections to the battery, I don't
particularly want the headaches and bruised knuckles.  I like to keep things
simple (KISS).

Any thoughts on the subject???

Bob

It's time for new tires; I'm thinking Michelins.  I'd appreciate
recommendations for dealers in roughly the Pomona, San
Bernardino, Riverside, California area.  Thanks!

Howard

Howard,

I have used America's Tires on Colorado Blvd in Pasadena near Hill Street for
two sets of tires on two different LD's with success.  Joe is the name of the
manager and his crews were great.  Both times they ordered "new current" stock
at my request and installed my Tire Man Valve extenders.

My other recommendation would be the Tire Man himself but he is located in
Ridgecrest, CA which is a drive from your location.


Gary Jacobsen

--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "rbkarrow" <rkarrow@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone installed two Lifeline GPL-6CT (300 AH) under the refrigerator of a
MB, coupled with two Lifeline GPL-4CT (220 AH) in the battery compartment?  This
would give me 520AH total (in a perfect world).
>
> I don't think I want to install the 6CT in the battery compartment because
it's a really tight overhead fit and with all the connections to the battery, I
don't particularly want the headaches and bruised knuckles.  I like to keep
things simple (KISS).
>
> Any thoughts on the subject???

I've heard multiple times not to mix type, age, or size of batteries in a
battery bank.  You might want to be conservative and use 4 of the same battery.

Art

Just for comparison shopping. I just bought 6 GF Goodrich for my 30', $1060 OTD.
Tucker Tire. Mission Viejo, CA.


--- In lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, "latljus" <kbfxsw@...> wrote:
>
> It's time for new tires; I'm thinking Michelins.  I'd appreciate
> recommendations for dealers in roughly the Pomona, San
> Bernardino, Riverside, California area.  Thanks!
>
> Howard
>