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#30 From: "Jon" <manov666@...>
Date: Fri Mar 31, 2000 8:51 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Suspension Upgrades
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Firstly - Hi!

I'm from the UK and my name is Jon. I am currently on my third Scooby.
I agree with what is being said below...I currently drive a WRX STI
here in England, but as I have 2 children, it is not really practical
as a family car! I am considering a B4 RSK - there are a few imports
available here - but my other option is to get a B4 Blitzen
imported...but it's gonna cost me! I read all of your comments and
points with interest - Subaru UK only import UK models, so we are
reliant on specialist importers...the trouble is information is hard to
come by.

Keep it coming guys!!!

Cheers

Jon


"neo ting yong" <tyne-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=28
> Most hardcore enthusiasts will go for the lighter and smaller EVO and
WRX
> instead of the B4. People in our grp bought this car mainly for it's
> refinement and reasonable ride comfort rather than outright
performance, so
> I doubt many of us would want to upset the ride by upgrading the
suspension.
>
> TY

#29 From: "Nate Sanso" <nsanso@...>
Date: Fri Mar 31, 2000 12:27 am
Subject: [B4] Whats up.
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Hello,
I am new to the group and love the car,
I unfortunatly live in the USA so no B4 for me.
I do however have a Legacy GT (Best I can Get here)
so I am now along for the ride.
Good Day,
Nate SanSo

#28 From: "Neo Ting Yong" <tyneo@...>
Date: Mon Mar 27, 2000 5:10 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Suspension Upgrades
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Most hardcore enthusiasts will go for the lighter and smaller EVO and WRX
instead of the B4. People in our grp bought this car mainly for it's
refinement and reasonable ride comfort rather than outright performance, so
I doubt many of us would want to upset the ride by upgrading the suspension.

TY
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
To: <legacyb4@eGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:54 AM
Subject: [B4] B4 & Suspension Upgrades


> Was also wondering what the boys in Singapore have done as far as
> suspension/body upgrades are concerned. Paul (who is on the list) is
> also going to officially join our family this month with his order of a
> new B4; however, it looks like he will going with the Tommy Kaira front
> end to help diffrentiate his car from my blue and Peter's black B4.
>
> One thing that he and I were discussing over the weekend was the added
> handling benefits of adding on a lower arm bar (front and/or rear) to
> help with body stiffness.
>
> Have any of you already added these on to your cars?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Jeff
> -
> "joel cheong" <joel118-@...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=24
> > cyberfrog,
> > where did you do your brake upgrades in Singapore?  And how much did
> > the STi calipers and rotors cost you?
> >
> >
> > "cyberfrog" <junc-@...> wrote:
> > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=18
> > > I had the STi 4-pot put in.  In comparison with the stock one, it
> > offers
> > > much better initial bite and feel.
> > > Dunno abt fade though....havent pushed the car that far yet.
>
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#27 From: "Sam Seh" <samseh@...>
Date: Mon Mar 27, 2000 3:09 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Suspension Upgrades
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i think that guy u mentioned is driving a black rsk..
who is driving a 6660??

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-----Original Message-----
From: CyberFrog <juncl@...>
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Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:12 PM
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Suspension Upgrades


>I think amongst the 9 guys in our grp, there isnt a single guy who has done
>anything to the suspension.  There's hearsay that someone who bought a
>special-indent manual version has done some serious work on his car....but
>no contact with him.
>
>I think considering what we've spent buying the car in the first place, few
>pple would want to spend anymore, unless they're loaded, or consider taking
>the car to the track somewhere.
>
>chin min
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
>To: <legacyb4@eGroups.com>
>Date: 27 March 2000 09:54
>Subject: [B4] B4 & Suspension Upgrades
>
>
>>Was also wondering what the boys in Singapore have done as far as
>>suspension/body upgrades are concerned. Paul (who is on the list) is
>>also going to officially join our family this month with his order of a
>>new B4; however, it looks like he will going with the Tommy Kaira front
>>end to help diffrentiate his car from my blue and Peter's black B4.
>>
>>One thing that he and I were discussing over the weekend was the added
>>handling benefits of adding on a lower arm bar (front and/or rear) to
>>help with body stiffness.
>>
>>Have any of you already added these on to your cars?
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>Jeff
>
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#26 From: "CyberFrog" <juncl@...>
Date: Mon Mar 27, 2000 2:01 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Suspension Upgrades
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I think amongst the 9 guys in our grp, there isnt a single guy who has done
anything to the suspension.  There's hearsay that someone who bought a
special-indent manual version has done some serious work on his car....but
no contact with him.

I think considering what we've spent buying the car in the first place, few
pple would want to spend anymore, unless they're loaded, or consider taking
the car to the track somewhere.

chin min

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
To: <legacyb4@eGroups.com>
Date: 27 March 2000 09:54
Subject: [B4] B4 & Suspension Upgrades


>Was also wondering what the boys in Singapore have done as far as
>suspension/body upgrades are concerned. Paul (who is on the list) is
>also going to officially join our family this month with his order of a
>new B4; however, it looks like he will going with the Tommy Kaira front
>end to help diffrentiate his car from my blue and Peter's black B4.
>
>One thing that he and I were discussing over the weekend was the added
>handling benefits of adding on a lower arm bar (front and/or rear) to
>help with body stiffness.
>
>Have any of you already added these on to your cars?
>
>Cheers.
>
>Jeff

#25 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Mon Mar 27, 2000 1:54 am
Subject: [B4] B4 & Suspension Upgrades
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Was also wondering what the boys in Singapore have done as far as
suspension/body upgrades are concerned. Paul (who is on the list) is
also going to officially join our family this month with his order of a
new B4; however, it looks like he will going with the Tommy Kaira front
end to help diffrentiate his car from my blue and Peter's black B4.

One thing that he and I were discussing over the weekend was the added
handling benefits of adding on a lower arm bar (front and/or rear) to
help with body stiffness.

Have any of you already added these on to your cars?

Cheers.

Jeff
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"joel cheong" <joel118-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=24
> cyberfrog,
> where did you do your brake upgrades in Singapore?  And how much did
> the STi calipers and rotors cost you?
>
>
> "cyberfrog" <junc-@...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=18
> > I had the STi 4-pot put in.  In comparison with the stock one, it
> offers
> > much better initial bite and feel.
> > Dunno abt fade though....havent pushed the car that far yet.

#24 From: "Joel Cheong" <joel1188@...>
Date: Tue Mar 21, 2000 3:51 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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cyberfrog,
where did you do your brake upgrades in Singapore?  And how much did
the STi calipers and rotors cost you?


"cyberfrog" <junc-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=18
> I had the STi 4-pot put in.  In comparison with the stock one, it
offers
> much better initial bite and feel.
> Dunno abt fade though....havent pushed the car that far yet.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
> To: <legacyb4@eGroups.com>
> Date: 17 March 2000 17:12
> Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
>
>
> >Peter,
> >
> >He didn't specify whether the STi package would be best, but he did
> >agree that, short of having limitless budget to replace the rotors,
> >etc., the brake pad, brake lines, and harder brake fluid would be the
> >best combination for improved performance.
> >
> >Careful there though, since some of the engine blowups he has seen
were
> >most likely due to upgraded ECU's.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jeff
> >-
> >peter lyon <plyo-@...> wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=16
> >> Jeff wrote:
> >>
> >> He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to
upgrade
> >> the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my
tires
> >> and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> What did he say about the brakes?
> >> I'd be interested to hear whether he
> >> thinks a full STi brake system is
> >> warranted or just replace the brake hoses
> >> and pads.
> >
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#23 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 11:16 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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Paul,

Thanks for the feedback. I still think that due to finances, priority
will have to go towards items that will have a direct (safety) impact
on the car which will mean better brake pads.

As for the muffler, I would only have considered changing the tail pipe
which would have left the current cat-system in place. What you say
makes sense; it would be something akin to having a bigger pipe in
place to blow exhaust through on the human body...

Cheers,

Jeff
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keiko <polarb-@...> wrote:

> As for the muffler - if it's a cat-back system, I don't see how it
could
> damage anything. Almost everything that really could affect the engine
> is done by the time the exhaust has passed through the catalytic
> converter. In the case of turbo cars, a bigger muffler just increases
> efficiency. It allows the turbo's to spool up a bit better, since they
> run off the exhaust. If that did "strange" things to the engine, than
> the problems are much more deep-rooted than a muffler upgrade would
> account for.

#22 From: chingchi@...
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 12:48 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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>Japan has some of the highest octane "hi-oku" gas in the world. This has
>allowed the manufacturer's here to push the turbo envelope farther than
>they do in the rest of the world. Australia import quite a few WRX's,
>and the no.1 problem they have is that their high-octane isn't up to the
>same level as Japan's. As a consequence, they tend to have detonation
>problems, and lesser hp outputs with the Japanese spec turbo's. Engine
>damage from that is much more frequent.

Hi Guys,

I'm no expert on mechanics and stuff but here in Australia the highest
octane rating we can get is 90 and I;'ve heard that some of the STi coupes
that came into Australia cooked their engines (probably due to detonation)
on account of this!

Makes me wanna think twice about getting a B4 here in Oz! If I;m gonna pay
that much for a car then only have it cook it's engine...!!!

Danny

#21 From: "Neo Ting Yong" <tyneo@...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2000 2:56 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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That's funny, the RSK is running the EJ20 engine as in the WRX except for
the twin turbo. How come the WRX doesn't have such problem?? I've used an
open type air filter in my ex-WRX for 4 yrs and never have any problem.

TY
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Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 12:27 PM
Subject: [B4] B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited


> After long and careful consideration (and discussion), I have chosen
> *not* to do any significant engine/exhaust upgrades to my B4. After
> having my 1 year check-up, the mechanic who also owns a B4, advised
> strongly against changing the air filter (he's seen several cars come
> back with damaged air flow meters) and also a muffler (he had one for a
> while but reverted back to his original stock muffler after his engine
> started to make strange sounds). Basically, with the Phase II engine so
> new to the market, it's hard to determine whether upgrades are worth
> the potential long-term damage to the car. In fact, he said that STi
> has stopped production on their racing air filter for the B4 due to the
> problems mentioned above.
>
> He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
> the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
> and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
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#20 From: Keiko <polarbr@...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2000 1:32 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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Jeff Tsai wrote:
>
> After long and careful consideration (and discussion), I have chosen
> *not* to do any significant engine/exhaust upgrades to my B4. After
> having my 1 year check-up, the mechanic who also owns a B4, advised
> strongly against changing the air filter (he's seen several cars come
> back with damaged air flow meters) and also a muffler (he had one for a
> while but reverted back to his original stock muffler after his engine
> started to make strange sounds). Basically, with the Phase II engine so
> new to the market, it's hard to determine whether upgrades are worth
> the potential long-term damage to the car. In fact, he said that STi
> has stopped production on their racing air filter for the B4 due to the
> problems mentioned above.

Well, I can reluctantly consider the part on the air filter, though the
only way it could damage the air flow sensor is either by letting too
much gunk through and clogging it somehow, or it was damaged by improper
fitting of the air cleaner. Otherwise, the only thing an improved air
cleaner could do is flow air faster, something that definitely shouldn't
hurt a device that measures air flow! I haven't seen the stock air
cleaner element, but if it was designed with the usual cost/performance
tradeoff, one could also say that the higher performance air elements
may filter even better than it, given their costs.

As for the muffler - if it's a cat-back system, I don't see how it could
damage anything. Almost everything that really could affect the engine
is done by the time the exhaust has passed through the catalytic
converter. In the case of turbo cars, a bigger muffler just increases
efficiency. It allows the turbo's to spool up a bit better, since they
run off the exhaust. If that did "strange" things to the engine, than
the problems are much more deep-rooted than a muffler upgrade would
account for.

Much more likely, all around, is that an ECU upgrade was at fault. Much
more likely, and possible with any car. The turbo Subaru's, and nearly
any stock turbo car, run rich too keep the cylinders as cool as
possible, so the engine doesn't start detonating. ECU's primary benefit
is to lean out the gas, which increases hp and increases mileage,
slightly. The downer is that the possibility for detonation increases.
Japan has some of the highest octane "hi-oku" gas in the world. This has
allowed the manufacturer's here to push the turbo envelope farther than
they do in the rest of the world. Australia import quite a few WRX's,
and the no.1 problem they have is that their high-octane isn't up to the
same level as Japan's. As a consequence, they tend to have detonation
problems, and lesser hp outputs with the Japanese spec turbo's. Engine
damage from that is much more frequent.

And lately, I've found considerable difference in gasoline quality
between gas stations here in Japan. It was quite noticable, in fact
probably a good 5hp or more difference in power. With all the
competition for lower gas prices, I wouldn't hesitate to say that some
of the hi-oku out there isn't that high. And with ECU chipped cars, that
can be deadly in the case of prolonged high-rpm runs.

That said, I tend to thing the Prova ECU is fine - their performance
change tends to be minor. ECU's from Mine's or Zero sports tend to be a
bit more wild, and consequently, more dangerous. But then, who said the
Need for Speed was safe? : )

> He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
> the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
> and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!

Now, that's something I will always agree with. : )  In retrospect, as
far as actual overall "racing" performance went, the no. 1 change would
have been the springs I put in. Suspension and braking are always a good
bet.

Paul Hansen

#19 From: "Neo Ting Yong" <tyneo@...>
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 6:16 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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The RSK and STI both share the same rotor, so it doesn't improve brake
fading. Go for aftermarket rotor with better material if u want better
resistance to fade.

TY
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Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:24 AM
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited


> I had the STi 4-pot put in.  In comparison with the stock one, it offers
> much better initial bite and feel.
> Dunno abt fade though....havent pushed the car that far yet.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
> To: <legacyb4@eGroups.com>
> Date: 17 March 2000 17:12
> Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
>
>
> >Peter,
> >
> >He didn't specify whether the STi package would be best, but he did
> >agree that, short of having limitless budget to replace the rotors,
> >etc., the brake pad, brake lines, and harder brake fluid would be the
> >best combination for improved performance.
> >
> >Careful there though, since some of the engine blowups he has seen were
> >most likely due to upgraded ECU's.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jeff
> >-
> >peter lyon <plyo-@...> wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=16
> >> Jeff wrote:
> >>
> >> He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
> >> the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
> >> and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> What did he say about the brakes?
> >> I'd be interested to hear whether he
> >> thinks a full STi brake system is
> >> warranted or just replace the brake hoses
> >> and pads.
> >
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#18 From: "CyberFrog" <juncl@...>
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 4:24 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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I had the STi 4-pot put in.  In comparison with the stock one, it offers
much better initial bite and feel.
Dunno abt fade though....havent pushed the car that far yet.


-----Original Message-----
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To: <legacyb4@eGroups.com>
Date: 17 March 2000 17:12
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited


>Peter,
>
>He didn't specify whether the STi package would be best, but he did
>agree that, short of having limitless budget to replace the rotors,
>etc., the brake pad, brake lines, and harder brake fluid would be the
>best combination for improved performance.
>
>Careful there though, since some of the engine blowups he has seen were
>most likely due to upgraded ECU's.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jeff
>-
>peter lyon <plyo-@...> wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=16
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>> He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
>> the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
>> and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> What did he say about the brakes?
>> I'd be interested to hear whether he
>> thinks a full STi brake system is
>> warranted or just replace the brake hoses
>> and pads.
>
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#17 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 9:12 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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Peter,

He didn't specify whether the STi package would be best, but he did
agree that, short of having limitless budget to replace the rotors,
etc., the brake pad, brake lines, and harder brake fluid would be the
best combination for improved performance.

Careful there though, since some of the engine blowups he has seen were
most likely due to upgraded ECU's.

Cheers,

Jeff
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peter lyon <plyo-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/legacyb4/?start=16
> Jeff wrote:
>
> He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
> the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
> and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!
>
>
> Jeff
>
> What did he say about the brakes?
> I'd be interested to hear whether he
> thinks a full STi brake system is
> warranted or just replace the brake hoses
> and pads.

#16 From: Peter Lyon <plyon@...>
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 7:55 am
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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Jeff wrote:

He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!


Jeff

What did he say about the brakes?
I'd be interested to hear whether he
thinks a full STi brake system is
warranted or just replace the brake hoses
and pads.

#15 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2000 4:27 am
Subject: [B4] B4 & Muffler Upgrades Revisited
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After long and careful consideration (and discussion), I have chosen
*not* to do any significant engine/exhaust upgrades to my B4. After
having my 1 year check-up, the mechanic who also owns a B4, advised
strongly against changing the air filter (he's seen several cars come
back with damaged air flow meters) and also a muffler (he had one for a
while but reverted back to his original stock muffler after his engine
started to make strange sounds). Basically, with the Phase II engine so
new to the market, it's hard to determine whether upgrades are worth
the potential long-term damage to the car. In fact, he said that STi
has stopped production on their racing air filter for the B4 due to the
problems mentioned above.

He did suggest that a good way to improve performance was to upgrade
the brakes though... this was right after he took one look at my tires
and said "hmmm... it looks like you've been racing on a track"!

Cheers,

Jeff

#14 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2000 3:48 am
Subject: [B4] Subaru Legacy B4 "Blitzen"
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Pictures of the new "Blitzen" are available for viewing at:

      http://members1.clubphoto.com/jeff8741/Fast_Cars_Subaru_Legacy_Bli
tzen/

Come and check 'em out!

Cheers,

Jeff

#13 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2000 12:57 am
Subject: [B4] B4 & Upgrades
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I swapped out my stock Subaru air filter (after 9,000 km or so)to an
HKS high-performance filter (dual-layer dense foam). I wasn't 100% sold
on the idea that the $100 STi filter would have signicant gains other
than a better name so I opted for the lower price unit.

I haven't done a lot of testing so far, but first observation is that
engine revs are smoother and deliver more punch through the entire
power band (of what I could push in 2nd/3rd gear on city streets). Of
course, that could also be due to driving around at 11:00 pm on a
chilly evening but I would like to believe that the filter was the
factor.

Next on the agenda are either a) a Fujitsubo Legalis R sports muffler
or b) better brake pads to stop myself from careening into a corner!

Cheers,

Jeff

#12 From: Keiko <polarbr@...>
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2000 10:54 am
Subject: [B4] Re: No Subject
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You should pick up the latest Hyper Rev mook for the Legacy, vol.40.

They have quite a few options - my favorite is the Tommy Kaira bumper
package, but without the CanAm racing wing... I saw a wagon with just
the bumper grill, and it totally changes the entire look of the car,
more sporty and smaller looking.

Paul Hansen

Jeff Tsai wrote:
>
> I saw a modified B4 prowling the back streets of Shibuya last night.
> After jumping in front of the car and interrogating the driver at key
> point, he admitted that he had upgraded to a Prova ECU and HKS
> muffler/air cleaner combination.
>
> "Great sound and increased performance" were his final words as he
> crawled back into his car and turned up the McIntosh sound system to
> drown out the low rumble of his engine...
>
> Needless to say, my interest is sparked! Any ideas on other upgrade
> options?
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#11 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2000 1:37 am
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I saw a modified B4 prowling the back streets of Shibuya last night.
After jumping in front of the car and interrogating the driver at key
point, he admitted that he had upgraded to a Prova ECU and HKS
muffler/air cleaner combination.

"Great sound and increased performance" were his final words as he
crawled back into his car and turned up the McIntosh sound system to
drown out the low rumble of his engine...

Needless to say, my interest is sparked! Any ideas on other upgrade
options?

Cheers,

Jeff

#10 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sat Mar 4, 2000 12:33 am
Subject: [B4] 'Blitzen' B4
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A friend of mine passed by the other day and dropped off the catalog for
the limited 'Blitzen' B4 on sale here in Japan. I'll try and post pics
sometime soon. In any case, if you think the B4's look good now, wait
until you see these pics! A virtual wet dream on wheels...

Cheers,

Jeff

#9 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sat Feb 19, 2000 12:25 am
Subject: [B4] GTC Race Car Wallpaper
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For those interested in the GT300/GT500 series of Japanese race cars,
check out:

      http://www.gtc.infosim.co.jp/gtc_enjoy/gtc_down.htm

for some pretty cool desktop wallpaper photos featuring the more popular
cars in the series.

Cheers,

Jeff

#8 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 7:59 am
Subject: [B4] Re: Playstation & Gran Turismo 2
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C.K.,

All you have to do is to reply to this address and your note goes out to
all members of the legacyb4@egroups.com list.

Not sure if it simulates "exactly", but handling performance is what I
would expect (at least within the power/speed ranges of the real car).
Can't say much for a 400+hp B4...

Cheers,

Jeff
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On 2/12/00 5:28 PM, C K Lim (kanglck1@...) wrote:

>I just got this last week & now having a blast..somehow the virtual driving
>is not quite as exhilarating.
>Does it simulate exactly to the RSK specs?
>
>Jimmy & Sam are both advance GT2 with licenses already.
>
>CK

#7 From: "C K Lim" <kanglck1@...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 1:28 am
Subject: [B4] Re: Playstation & Gran Turismo 2
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I just got this last week & now having a blast..somehow the virtual driving
is not quite as exhilarating.
Does it simulate exactly to the RSK specs?

Jimmy & Sam are both advance GT2 with licenses already.

CK

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> How many of the Singapore guys are also playing GT2 on the Playstation?
> If you want to really play around with your car, you've GOT to get the
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#6 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2000 5:11 pm
Subject: [B4] Re: B4 & ECU
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Nothing more than what I mentioned about the upgrade; better response on
the low-end and removal of the speed limiter. Peter, who actually has the
upgrade, said that it is supposed to add 10-15 hp overall. However, as he
did not upgrade his exhaust system, I imagine that he did not receive
100% benefit from the ECU.

Cheers,

Jeff
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>Hi Jeff...been a while since you last wrote.
>
>Anyway, got my B4 abt 4 mths ago and enjoying every minute of it.  Just
>wondering abt the Prova ECU upgrade.  Does it specify what is different from
>the original ECU?

#5 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2000 5:20 am
Subject: [B4] Playstation & Gran Turismo 2
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How many of the Singapore guys are also playing GT2 on the Playstation?
If you want to really play around with your car, you've GOT to get the
game!

Cheers,

Jeff

#4 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2000 2:37 am
Subject: Re: B4 & ECU
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Guys,

If you have the time, check out:

      http://www.jprova.co.jp/parts/legacy2.html

This is one of the more famous Subaru performance dealers in Japan.

Cheers,

Jeff
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On 2/11/00 6:53 AM, C K Lim (kanglck1@...) wrote:

>> Hmmmm....ECU causes the turbo to stall???? I think he was referring to the
>> weak mid range power during 3000 - 5000rpm when the 1st turbo ran out of
>> breath b4 the 2nd turbo kicks in and not the turbo stalling jimmy was
>> talking about.
>          ---->  wouldn't that be useful to have if the ECU can do that?
>Perhaps we can ask this Jeffrey
>                    for further comments? Does Jeffery has a manual RSK?

#3 From: Jeff Tsai <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Sat Feb 12, 2000 2:32 am
Subject: B4 & ECU Upgrade
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I am driving a manual RSK although I did not upgrade the ECU (had no need
to). My friend who also drives a manual did upgrade the ECU (made by
Prova in Japan) and has never looked back (except to check for police
cars).

Seriously though, he says that low-end torque is much improved and the
flat spot between the two turbos is pretty much eliminated (not to
mention the speed delimiter).

On our last run out to the Motegi racetrack, it was not contest in the
straight as he was able to continue to pull away towards the last couple
hundred of meters. In any case, if you are going to be pushing your B4 in
speeds upwards of 160 km/h on a regular basis, the first thing I would
get are a) high performance brake pads and b) better brake calipers/brake
lines. You WILL notice that your brakes begin to fade when braking at
high speeds on a track.

Cheers,

Jeff
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On 2/11/00 6:53 AM, C K Lim (kanglck1@...) wrote:

>          ---->  wouldn't that be useful to have if the ECU can do that?
>Perhaps we can ask this Jeffrey
>for further comments? Does Jeffery has a manual RSK?

#2 From: "Jeff Tsai" <jeffreytsai@...>
Date: Fri Feb 11, 2000 8:05 pm
Subject: Posting Pictures & Others
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Post pictures of your B4 in the Vault section. Try to keep pictures
down to a moderate size (under 100K) so we have room for new members.

Add your favorite URLs (ie. my Clubphoto site and the Singapore B4
group) in the Links section.

Cheers,

Jeff

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