----- Original Message -----

From: ndybailey

To: ihie_guidelines@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:43 PM

Subject: [ihie_guidelines] domed road studs

Hi
Any more comments for Phillipa?

Regards
Andy
Rutland CC

>>> "Moffatt, Phil (DSD)" <phil.moffatt@staffordshire.gov.uk>
05/12/06 09:40 >>>
Philippa,

The following from our head of maintenance policy sums up our view:

If I recall correctly, the manufacturers of domed road studs have
developed
an equally effective model that has a lower height - this is the one
which
we now use in Staffordshire.

I'm familiar with the arguments against the use of domed road studs
from our
own previous deliberations (Staffordshire Highways Specification
Group),
following an article in Motorcycle news several months ago. However,
I do
not recall anything other than similar anecdotal comments about them
than
those included in the forwarded email - I'm certainly not aware of any
Highway Authority who has gone about removing them. I understand
that the
Highway Agency also continue with their use.

The reflective properties (360 degree visibility) offer significant
improvement over the traditional studs, most agreeing that the
benefits out
weight what others believe to be the potential problems with their
use i.e.
slip hazard for motorcyclists or impact injury from the protruding
feature.
The protruding element has been controlled to a great degree with the
lower
height model and the surface area of the domed stud is no greater
than that
of stick-on studs and in fact is less than the traditional inset iron
shoe
variety. On balance domed studs therefore appear to be a good
product, with
significant road safety benefits for all road users.

Hope this helps.

Phil.

-----Original Message-----
From: philippayoung@warwickshire.gov.uk
[mailto:philippayoung@warwickshire.gov.uk]
Sent: 04 December 2006 11:29
To: neil.edgar@cheshire.gov.uk; paul.robinson@Derbyshire.gov.uk;
skarkowski@leics.gov.uk; jjbutlin@northamptonshire.gov.uk;
suzanneheydon@nottscc.gov.uk; SDrummond@rutland.gov.uk;
phil.moffatt@staffordshire.gov.uk; dclee@worcestershire.gov.uk;
Peter.Andrews@env.lancscc.gov.uk
Subject: Re Road Dangers - Glass domed road studs

Dear All
We have received a complaint about the use of glass domed road studs
(see
below). Can you let me know if you have any experience with their use
or
have a policy of not using them.
Thanks
Philippa

Philippa Young

Team Leader

Safety Engineering

Environment and Economy
Warwickshire County Council

Email : <mailto:philippayoung@warwickshire.gov.uk>
philippayoung@warwickshire.gov.uk

Web : <http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/> www.warwickshire.gov.uk

----- Forwarded by Philippa Young/PT/WarksCC on 04/12/2006 11:26 -----


Tony Iwanikiw/PT/WarksCC

03/11/2006 17:22

To: anneolds@lineone.net
cc: Philippa Young/PT/WarksCC@WarksCC, Peter
Samwell/PT/WarksCC@WarksCC, Alan Mycock/PT/WarksCC@WarksCC, Andrew
Savage/PT/WarksCC@WarksCC
Subject: Re Road Dangers - Glass domed road studs

Dear Madam

I refer to your recent correspondence which had been forwarded to me
to
reply to. I apologise for the delay in my reply.
I am unaware of any evidence to support the claim that the glass
domed road
stud poses any greater highway safety issue than the conventional
catseye
type or plastic stick on studs. To date we have not recieved any
complaints
regarding the use of domed studs which we have been installing on our
Principal Roads for approximately 3 years and have no record of any
accidents where the studs have allegedly caused or contributed to the
accident. On the contrary we have had a number of comments where
individuals
have praised the effectiveness of this type of stud.
I will investigate this issue further with my colleagues from our Road
Safety Unit and the Midlands Regional Highway Engineering Group and
if there
is valid and compelling evidence to support your safety/danger
allegation I
will propose a review of our policy.
I thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

Tony Iwanikiw

Network Team Manager

Network Management ' (01926) 414088

Environment and Economy
Warwickshire County Council

Email : <mailto:tonyiwanikiw@warwickshire.gov.uk>
tonyiwanikiw@warwickshire.gov.uk

Web : <http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/> www.warwickshire.gov.uk

Dear sir , I have sent the email below twice now and have not yet
had a
reply or an answer. We've travelled the road many times since
sending this
email and still notice that these very dangerous cats eyes are still
in the
road. There has been a lot of notice in the media about the dangers
of
these ,especially to people on motorbikes, and as I have said many
councils
are removing them. Please advise as to what Stratford Council are
going to
do about them.
Thanks Anne Olds.



Dear sir, Due to the extremely dangerous effect of glass 'Dome
shaped' cat's
eyes most councils have decided to remove the ones fitted and not to
continue fitting them. With other councils arriving at this decision
why
then is Stratford District County Council fitting these extremely
dangerous
cats's eyes on the main Stratford to Banbury A422 road through
Pillerton
Priors and also on the B4086 Edgehill to Kineton Road. Road safety is
paramount and a matter of much attention so it seems strange that
Stratford
Council is increasing the danger to road users by fitting these cat's
eyes
and putting lives at risk.
Regards, Anne Olds.