Two weeks parked in Phoenix in the summer with the windows rolled up did it for
mine at 42K. The heat really accelerates the self discharge so by the time I
started it back up I'm sure the voltage was really low, and after a few miles it
was unable to bring it back up to an acceptable level (hot batteries) and gave
me the IMA light.

And the best part is the owners manual says you can park it for two weeks so
essentially I did nothing wrong.

Rick

	 Sounds like the IMA battery self-discharge rate is quite high.  You

might be able to accelerate the illumination of the IMA light by

parking your Insight for longer than normal (e.g., for twice as long

as normal) so that the IMA battery will self-discharge even more.  The

resulting imbalance among individual battery cells might be sufficient

to illuminate the IMA light.



Aloha,

Art Isbell

2000 Insight A/C #559

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Dec 21, 2009, at 10:35 AM, mbk42 wrote:

> The dealer doesn't care how bad the battery system works, if the IMA
> light doesn't go on, then all I am going to get is a $100 charge for
> an inspection so they can tell me that there is nothing wrong with
> the system because the IMA light doesn't go on (yes, it's very
> catch-22 ish).
>

	 That's very typical.  Actually, without a diagnostic trouble code
having been set (i.e., the IMA light illuminating), there is very
little that the dealer can do to diagnose the problem.  Yes, this can
be very frustrating when one knows that the IMA system isn't working
correctly.  I had to drive about 3 years with a misbehaving IMA system
before the IMA light finally illuminated which provided the dealer
with the information necessary to replace the IMA battery under
warranty.  So I'm afraid that you will just need to be patient.

> These days it seems to have the tendency to drop large amounts while
> not being driven. It will be at half when I turn it off, then the
> next time I go to drive it will be at a third sort of a thing.
>

	 Sounds like the IMA battery self-discharge rate is quite high.  You
might be able to accelerate the illumination of the IMA light by
parking your Insight for longer than normal (e.g., for twice as long
as normal) so that the IMA battery will self-discharge even more.  The
resulting imbalance among individual battery cells might be sufficient
to illuminate the IMA light.

Aloha,
Art Isbell
2000 Insight A/C #559

Complaining to the dealers in my area is like complaining to the wall, though I
prefer the wall, it doesn't make as many inane arguments {smile}.

The dealer doesn't care how bad the battery system works, if the IMA light
doesn't go on, then all I am going to get is a $100 charge for an inspection so
they can tell me that there is nothing wrong with the system because the IMA
light doesn't go on (yes, it's very catch-22 ish).

It behaved very strangely this weekend - I drove about 100 miles total with the
battery refusing to move off of 3 bars on the display even though it was
charging all the time while I was driving.  It finally moved off of it and then
promptly managed to become nearly full within 15 minutes (I blinked and it was
suddenly at half and a few minutes later it was nearly full).

These days it seems to have the tendency to drop large amounts while not being
driven.  It will be at half when I turn it off, then the next time I go to drive
it will be at a third sort of a thing.

I manage to keep my mileage up by just accelerating slower, not being in any
hurry to get to red lights, and making sure I have enough momentum to get up the
"hills" (I live in the very flat part of IL, so it's not very difficult to do)
and just generally avoiding using the brake as much as possible.  It really
helps to have the manual vs the CVT.

Don't get me wrong, I love my car and wouldn't trade it for anything.  It just
frustrates me not being able to have more control over the IMA system and having
to deal with car dealers just drives me up the wall.

--- In honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com, "Rushd" <Rushd@...> wrote:
>
>
> Myles wrote -
>
> > Where do you get an IMA battery charger and how do you hook it up?  I
> > would really like a charger/discharger.
> >
> > I'm on my second battery (replaced last May) and either it sucks or the
> > new hardware/software they installed with it is truly awful (never can
> > keep it charged - its charging most of the time I'm driving).
> >
> > Myles Kagan
> > Naperville, IL (far west Chicago suburb)
> > 2000 Silver MT #3442 bought in 2002 new with 9K mi (dealer demo)
> > 88K mi ~75mpg in the summer, 60-65mpg in the winter
>
> 75 in the summer and 60-65 in the winter is pretty good with a battery that
> is being charged most of the time. Charging creates a big load on the motor
> and normally should decrease your milage.
>
> In any case a charger wouldn't help you, it would just transfer the energy
> it takes to charge from the car to the grid, and since you say it can't keep
> the charge, it would charge also while driving. thereby wasting the energy
> you have taken from the gird. Have you taken it to the dealer and
> complained?
>
> Rush
> Tucson AZ
> 2000 silver #4965
> Refurbished Bat pack by Ron
>

IMA light just went on in our nearly new HCH. Was not able to read
the codes w/ my CarChip. Is a special reader needed for IMA codes?

Thanks,
-d

Myles wrote -

> Where do you get an IMA battery charger and how do you hook it up?  I
> would really like a charger/discharger.
>
> I'm on my second battery (replaced last May) and either it sucks or the
> new hardware/software they installed with it is truly awful (never can
> keep it charged - its charging most of the time I'm driving).
>
> Myles Kagan
> Naperville, IL (far west Chicago suburb)
> 2000 Silver MT #3442 bought in 2002 new with 9K mi (dealer demo)
> 88K mi ~75mpg in the summer, 60-65mpg in the winter

75 in the summer and 60-65 in the winter is pretty good with a battery that
is being charged most of the time. Charging creates a big load on the motor
and normally should decrease your milage.

In any case a charger wouldn't help you, it would just transfer the energy
it takes to charge from the car to the grid, and since you say it can't keep
the charge, it would charge also while driving. thereby wasting the energy
you have taken from the gird. Have you taken it to the dealer and
complained?

Rush
Tucson AZ
2000 silver #4965
Refurbished Bat pack by Ron

In my opinion, a charger will not help with the problems you are
experiencing.

Laboriously tapped out on an iPhone keypad.

On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:20 AM, "mbk42" <mbk42@...> wrote:

> Where do you get an IMA battery charger and how do you hook it up?
> I would really like a charger/discharger.
>
> I'm on my second battery (replaced last May) and either it sucks or
> the new hardware/software they installed with it is truly awful
> (never can keep it charged - its charging most of the time I'm
> driving).
>
> Myles Kagan
> Naperville, IL (far west Chicago suburb)
> 2000 Silver MT #3442 bought in 2002 new with 9K mi (dealer demo)
> 88K mi ~75mpg in the summer, 60-65mpg in the winter
>
> --- In honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com, Art Isbell <anon1@...> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:52 AM, jack ravin wrote:
>>
>>> The main reason I had in asking for everyones location was that I
>>> usually wave at the person driving an insight and never have a
>>> chance to meet them.
>>>
>>
>>
>>    Hmm, I probably won't be seeing you on the road; I shipped my
>> silver
>> 2000 Insight from Honolulu to Uppsala, Sweden, last summer.  I
>> purchased it from the original owner in June, 2002.  It has been
>> driven only about 25,000 miles total (~62 mpg) which has resulted in
>> its IMA battery being replaced twice under warranty ("use it or lose
>> it").  It is no longer under warranty in Sweden, so I now use an IMA
>> battery charger to attempt to keep the battery's cells in balance to
>> prevent another premature failure.
>>
>> Aloha,
>> Art Isbell
>> 2000 Insight A/C #559
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
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>
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>
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>

On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:20 AM, mbk42 wrote:

> Where do you get an IMA battery charger and how do you hook it up? I
> would really like a charger/discharger.
>
	 Oddly enough, these custom IMA battery chargers are available from
Peter Perkins in the U.K. (http://www.solarvan.co.uk/index_files/Page487.htm
).  I don't know whether anyone in the U.S. is making them.

Aloha,
Art Isbell
2000 Insight A/C #559

Im in Melbourne Australia. There is only supposed to be about 50 Insights in all
of Aus. I bought mine about 2 years ago with the money I got from selling a 
1967 911 Porsche which was rusting and no longer wanted. It has about 60000ks
and is basically only used for the odd long distance trip my electric car cant
do or in Winter when my solar system cant supply enough energy for battery
charging. It has battery problems for sure and gets the engine symbol
occasionally. The more you use it the less problems appear with the car. I can
live with these & dont really want to go to Honda as I dread what they will put
in place of what there is now. I get rid of the engine light by disconnecting
the 12V battery which I disconnect anyway in between uses due to drain by
burglar alarm etc. On a trip to Sydney & back recently  (2000kms) I had frequent
battery resets and a few check engine on the way up but few on the way back.
Averaged 3.9litres/100ks on ordinary tyres/steel rims mostly at 100k/hr. Trying
to use up these tyres before getting LRR ones. I have some NiMH "sticks" from an
early Prius that I could use instead of going to Honda (enough electrical
knowledge to be dangerous) David S
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My apologies for unnecessary repetitiousness in my post of Tue. Dec 15.
(I usually do better  ;-)

Sheafe Ewing
'00 Insight #2360
Walnut Creek, CA

I'm a dual Insight owner with an 2001 and 2010 model and live in Sunnyvale, CA.

2001 CVT Insight, 53 Lmpg with 64K and 2010 CVT Insight at 46Lmpg with 4K.

There's a blue Insight around the corner from me and I seen at least four 1th
generation's Insights in my local neighborhood.

So far, has have not seen another 2010 Insight.

Selina

very true... outlook will do that as well.  I try to keep my personal email out
of outlook.  Plus I won't pay for Yahoo! premium mail so that I can download it
into outlook...




________________________________
From: Art Isbell <anon1@...>
To: honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 10:29:43 AM
Subject: Re: [honda-hybrid] Re: Insight-owner location


On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Eric van Straten wrote:

> How are you doing that for a specific group that you belong to. I
> use this email account for about a dozen Yahoo! groups that I belong
> to. Is that a GMAIL specific function?
>

I use Mac OS X Mail to read and write Yahoo Groups email messages
rather than using yahoo.com Web mail.  Mac OS X Mail, like many email
programs, supports defining many different signatures.  I just choose
the appropriate signature for the email message that I'm composing.
Occasionally I screw up and attach the wrong signature :-)

Aloha,
Art Isbell
2000 Insight A/C #559




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Where do you get an IMA battery charger and how do you hook it up?  I would
really like a charger/discharger.

I'm on my second battery (replaced last May) and either it sucks or the new
hardware/software they installed with it is truly awful (never can keep it
charged - its charging most of the time I'm driving).

Myles Kagan
Naperville, IL (far west Chicago suburb)
2000 Silver MT #3442 bought in 2002 new with 9K mi (dealer demo)
88K mi ~75mpg in the summer, 60-65mpg in the winter

--- In honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com, Art Isbell <anon1@...> wrote:
>
> On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:52 AM, jack ravin wrote:
>
> > The main reason I had in asking for everyones location was that I
> > usually wave at the person driving an insight and never have a
> > chance to meet them.
> >
>
>
>  Hmm, I probably won't be seeing you on the road; I shipped my silver
> 2000 Insight from Honolulu to Uppsala, Sweden, last summer.  I
> purchased it from the original owner in June, 2002.  It has been
> driven only about 25,000 miles total (~62 mpg) which has resulted in
> its IMA battery being replaced twice under warranty ("use it or lose
> it").  It is no longer under warranty in Sweden, so I now use an IMA
> battery charger to attempt to keep the battery's cells in balance to
> prevent another premature failure.
>
> Aloha,
> Art Isbell
> 2000 Insight A/C #559
>

I am contemplating the installation of some radio equipment in the trunk
of my 2008 Civic hybrid.  I will need to route some cables from the
trunk to the dash area.  Any suggestions as to a cable route to take?
Is there a cable path established already that I can follow?  Suggestions?

Thanks!
Steve

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On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Eric van Straten wrote:

> How are you doing that for a specific group that you belong to. I
> use this email account for about a dozen Yahoo! groups that I belong
> to. Is that a GMAIL specific function?
>


	 I use Mac OS X Mail to read and write Yahoo Groups email messages
rather than using yahoo.com Web mail.  Mac OS X Mail, like many email
programs, supports defining many different signatures.  I just choose
the appropriate signature for the email message that I'm composing.
Occasionally I screw up and attach the wrong signature :-)

Aloha,
Art Isbell
2000 Insight A/C #559

Most mail lists have a specific function for a signature block used ONLY in
that group like InsightCentral.org  does.  But in the case of others like
this one that function is not available.  However it isnt that hard to
change it on the fly as I have done on this one.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Eric van Straten <icvanstra@...>wrote:

>
>
> Jim,
>
> How are you doing that for a specific group that you belong to. I use this
> email account for about a dozen Yahoo! groups that I belong to. Is that a
> GMAIL specific function?
>
> eric
>
> ________________________________
>
>
Jim Isbell
2000 Insight Corpus Christi TX
"If you are not living on the edge, well then,
you are just taking up too much space."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jim,

How are you doing that for a specific group that you belong to.  I use this
email account for about a dozen Yahoo! groups that I belong to.  Is that a GMAIL
specific function?

eric




________________________________
From: "Jim Isbell, W5JAI" <jim.isbell@...>
To: honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:31:21 PM
Subject: Re: [honda-hybrid] Re: Insight-owner location

It would be easy for anyone to modify their signature block to include their
location....if they wanted to do so....    Jim in Corpus Christi TX

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:52 AM, jack ravin wrote:

> The main reason I had in asking for everyones location was that I
> usually wave at the person driving an insight and never have a
> chance to meet them.
>


	 Hmm, I probably won't be seeing you on the road; I shipped my silver
2000 Insight from Honolulu to Uppsala, Sweden, last summer.  I
purchased it from the original owner in June, 2002.  It has been
driven only about 25,000 miles total (~62 mpg) which has resulted in
its IMA battery being replaced twice under warranty ("use it or lose
it").  It is no longer under warranty in Sweden, so I now use an IMA
battery charger to attempt to keep the battery's cells in balance to
prevent another premature failure.

Aloha,
Art Isbell
2000 Insight A/C #559

It would be easy for anyone to modify their signature block to include their
location....if they wanted to do so....    Jim in Corpus Christi TX

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Sheafe Ewing <sheafe.ewing@...>wrote:

>
>
>
> Sheafe Ewing
> '00 Insight #2360
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> At first, Members of Insight-Central posted their locations as members
> when they joined.... long ago. Unfortunately the member-info has gone
> from the site, but
> there's still a lot of worthwhile Insight information to be found
> there. Look it over, after signing up at < InsightCentral.net >
> As an example of the information to be found there :
>
> > Junior Member
> >
> > Join Date: Nov 2009
> > Posts: 1
> >
> > Exclamation Heads up for 2000-2001 Insight owners
> > I had my second IMA battery failure at 124,000 miles last week. The
> > Honda dealer told me that the first battery replacement (at 100,487
> > miles in 2006) was only warranted for one year and I would have to pay
> > almost $3,000 for a replacement. This didn't make sense but they were
> > firm in their statement. I contacted Ron Hansen at
> > Hybrid-Battery-Repair check on a replacement. He told me that my
> > extended warranty was still in effect and to go back and tell the
> > dealer to check again and to call American Honda if they didn't honor
> > the warranty. Taking that advice and a printout of the 2006 Honda
> > Service Letter that I found on these forums I went back to the dealer
> > and to my surprise they immediately ordered a replacement battery
> > under full warranty to be installed day after tomorrow! There are
> > three lessons learned from this experience:
> >
> > 1. Your 2000/2001 extended IMA warranty is valid for a full 10 years
> > or 150,000 miles - even if you have had a prior IMA warranty
> > replacement.
> > 2. Your local Honda dealer may not be on the ball (or just may not be
> > honest with you) when you go in - know your rights and stand your
> > ground.
> > 3. Insight-Central Forums and Ron Hansen are formidable resources for
> > us Insight owners. Ron didn't have to tell me to pursue the warranty
> > but that just shows his integrity. You can bet that Ron will provide
> > my next IMA battery!
> > BrooksA is offline Report Post
>
> (My emphasis)
>
> Below, from today, Tuesday, December 15, honda-hybrid digest #2674
>
> >
> > 2a. Insight owner location
> > From: Kevin Elmore
> > 2b. Re: Insight owner location
> > From: ted johnson
> > 2c. Re: Insight owner location
> > From: Don Buckshot
> > 2d. Re: Insight owner location
> > From: rschaffrath
> > 2e. Re: Insight owner location
> > From: lorelei@... <lorelei%40filmfatale.org>
> >
> > 4. 2000 Insight
> > From: Nanette
> >
> >
> > Messages
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 1a. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
> > Posted by: "Eric van Straten"
icvanstra@...<icvanstra%40yahoo.com>icvanstra
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:00 am ((PST))
> >
> > Eric
> > Red '02 CVT
> > Bought new
> > 42.4 lpg at 82K
> > Broad Ripple - Indianapolis, IN
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 1b. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
> > Posted by: "Mike Sherman"
mike.sherman@...<mike.sherman%40earthlink.net>shermanme
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:31 am ((PST))
> >
> >
> > 2006 MT, MIMA
> > 67.6 lmpg
> > Cleveland, OH
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > -
> > Mike Sherman <mike.sherman@... <mike.sherman%40earthlink.net>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 1c. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
> > Posted by: "Doug Brentlinger"
dougb120@...<dougb120%40sbcglobal.net>
> > dougb120@... <dougb120%40sbcglobal.net>
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:44 pm ((PST))
> >
> > Hi from Doug,
> >
> > We live in Sunnyvale, Ca, San Francisco bay area.
> > doug
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mike Sherman <mike.sherman@...<mike.sherman%40earthlink.net>
> >
> > To: honda-hybred yahoo group
<honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com<honda-hybrid%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:26:16 AM
> > Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight
> > 2000 to 2006 owners
> >
> >
> > 2006 MT, MIMA
> > 67.6 lmpg
> > Cleveland, OH
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > Mike Sherman <mike.sherman@ earthlink. net>
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 1d. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
> > Posted by: "John Mras" jmras1@... <jmras1%40stny.rr.com>johnmrassr
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:38 pm ((PST))
>
> > I own a blue 2001. 154,000 miles, 54 mpg. I'm the third owner.
> > Went
> > 350 miles to South Boston, MA in Feb 2008 to get it.
> >
> > I am: John in Sayre, PA
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 2a. Insight owner location
> > Posted by: "Kevin Elmore"
kelmore@...<kelmore%40rocketmail.com>kelmore.rm
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:40 am ((PST))
> >
> > "It would be interesting to know where you are located when you post on
> > this site. Since the Insight is going to be 10 years old soon. Could we
> > try to it?"
> >
> > My 2002 Insight is still cruising around Kansas City, MO.
> >
> > Kevin
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 2b. Re: Insight owner location
> > Posted by: "ted johnson" twjohnson@... <twjohnson%40me.com>ted7751429
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:43 am ((PST))
> >
> > 2000, #1679 252,000 miles 63 mpg western mass.. Ted
> > On Dec 14, 2009, at MondayDecember141040AM, Kevin Elmore wrote:
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 2c. Re: Insight owner location
> > Posted by: "Don Buckshot"
buckshot@...<buckshot%40planetkc.com>donaldbuckshot
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:19 am ((PST))
> >
> > Well, Kevin,
> >
> > I am driving a 2002 CVT around Kansas City also. Bought it about a
> > year
> > and a half ago with only 45 Lmpg on it at 44K miles. Now it is over 50
> > Lmpg at 65K miles with my wife driving it. What a great little car!
> > I am about to sell it and buy a Prius because we need 4 seats now.
> >
> > Don Buckshot
> > Roeland Park, Ks
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 2d. Re: Insight owner location
> > Posted by: "rschaffrath" robert@...
<robert%40schaffrath.net>rschaffrath
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:56 am ((PST))
> >
> > Northwestern Nassau County on Long Island.
> >
> > My Insight turns ten at the end of August 2010 according to its birth
> > certificate. I will have had it nine years in April.
> >
> > Robert
> > Silver, '00-#4581
> > __________________________________________________________
> > _
> > 2e. Re: Insight owner location
> > Posted by: "lorelei@... <lorelei%40filmfatale.org>"
> lorelei@... <lorelei%40filmfatale.org>
> > kidlorelei
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:07 pm ((PST))
> >
> > my very lovely citrus '00 lives in san francisco california. i've seen
> > 2 other citrus that live within the city as well. are any of them on
> > the list? (if so, i've waved to you!!)
> >
> > ---Lorelei_
>
> > _______________
> > 4. 2000 Insight
> > Posted by: "Nanette" nanettes@...
<nanettes%40bellsouth.net>ndietmeyer
> > Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:16 pm ((PST))
> >
> > My Silver 2000 Honda Insight is alive and well in Crestwood, Kentucky.
> > It takes me to and from Louisville for work every day. It has about
> > 96,000 miles on it and gets around 50 mpg (low, I know....). I bought
> > it in 2002 when it had almost 6000 miles on it.
> >
> > Nanette
> > #3453----------------------------------------------------------
> > ------
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Jim Isbell
"If you are not living on the edge, well then,
you are just taking up too much space."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sheafe Ewing
'00 Insight #2360
Walnut Creek, CA


At first, Members of Insight-Central posted their locations as members
when they joined.... long ago.  Unfortunately the member-info has gone
from the site, but
there's still a lot of worthwhile Insight information to be found
there. Look it over, after signing up at <  InsightCentral.net  >
As an example of the information to be found there :


> Junior Member
>
> Join Date: Nov 2009
> Posts: 1
>
> Exclamation Heads up for 2000-2001 Insight owners
> I had my second IMA battery failure at 124,000 miles last week. The
> Honda dealer told me that the first battery replacement (at 100,487
> miles in 2006) was only warranted for one year and I would have to pay
> almost $3,000 for a replacement. This didn't make sense but they were
> firm in their statement. I contacted Ron Hansen at
> Hybrid-Battery-Repair check on a replacement. He told me that my
> extended warranty was still in effect and to go back and tell the
> dealer to check again and to call American Honda if they didn't honor
> the warranty. Taking that advice and a printout of the 2006 Honda
> Service Letter that I found on these forums I went back to the dealer
> and to my surprise they immediately ordered a replacement battery
> under full warranty to be installed day after tomorrow! There are
> three lessons learned from this experience:
>
> 1. Your 2000/2001 extended IMA warranty is valid for a full 10 years
> or 150,000 miles - even if you have had a prior IMA warranty
> replacement.
> 2. Your local Honda dealer may not be on the ball (or just may not be
> honest with you) when you go in - know your rights and stand your
> ground.
> 3. Insight-Central Forums and Ron Hansen are formidable resources for
> us Insight owners. Ron didn't have to tell me to pursue the warranty
> but that just shows his integrity. You can bet that Ron will provide
> my next IMA battery!
> BrooksA is offline Report Post


(My emphasis)

Below, from today, Tuesday, December 15, honda-hybrid digest #2674

>
> 2a. Insight owner location
>     From: Kevin Elmore
> 2b. Re: Insight owner location
>     From: ted johnson
> 2c. Re: Insight owner location
>     From: Don Buckshot
> 2d. Re: Insight owner location
>     From: rschaffrath
> 2e. Re: Insight owner location
>     From: lorelei@...
>
> 4. 2000 Insight
>     From: Nanette
>
>
> Messages
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 1a. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
>     Posted by: "Eric van Straten" icvanstra@... icvanstra
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:00 am ((PST))
>
> Eric
> Red '02 CVT
> Bought new
> 42.4 lpg at 82K
> Broad Ripple - Indianapolis, IN
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 1b. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
>     Posted by: "Mike Sherman" mike.sherman@... shermanme
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:31 am ((PST))
>
>
> 2006 MT, MIMA
> 67.6 lmpg
> Cleveland, OH
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>   Mike Sherman                           <mike.sherman@...>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 1c. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
>     Posted by: "Doug Brentlinger" dougb120@...
> dougb120@...
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:44 pm ((PST))
>
> Hi from Doug,
>
> We live in Sunnyvale, Ca, San Francisco bay area.
> doug
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Sherman <mike.sherman@...>
> To: honda-hybred yahoo group <honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:26:16 AM
> Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight
> 2000 to 2006 owners
>
>
> 2006 MT, MIMA
> 67.6 lmpg
> Cleveland, OH
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> Mike Sherman                           <mike.sherman@ earthlink. net>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 1d. Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006 owners
>     Posted by: "John Mras" jmras1@... johnmrassr
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:38 pm ((PST))

> I own a blue 2001.   154,000 miles,  54 mpg.  I'm the third owner.
> Went
> 350 miles to South Boston, MA in Feb 2008 to get it.
>
> I am: John in Sayre,  PA
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 2a. Insight owner location
>     Posted by: "Kevin Elmore" kelmore@... kelmore.rm
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:40 am ((PST))
>
> "It would be interesting to know where you are located when you post on
> this site. Since the Insight is going to be 10 years old soon. Could we
> try to it?"
>
> My 2002 Insight is still cruising around Kansas City, MO.
>
> Kevin
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 2b. Re: Insight owner location
>     Posted by: "ted johnson" twjohnson@... ted7751429
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:43 am ((PST))
>
> 2000, #1679 252,000 miles 63 mpg   western mass..   Ted
> On Dec 14, 2009, at MondayDecember141040AM, Kevin Elmore wrote:
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 2c. Re: Insight owner location
>     Posted by: "Don Buckshot" buckshot@... donaldbuckshot
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:19 am ((PST))
>
> Well, Kevin,
>
> I am driving a 2002 CVT around Kansas City also.  Bought it about a
> year
> and a half ago with only 45 Lmpg on it at 44K miles.  Now it is over 50
> Lmpg at 65K miles with my wife driving it.   What a great little car!
> I am about to sell it and buy a Prius because we need 4 seats now.
>
> Don Buckshot
> Roeland Park, Ks
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 2d. Re: Insight owner location
>     Posted by: "rschaffrath" robert@... rschaffrath
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:56 am ((PST))
>
> Northwestern Nassau County on Long Island.
>
> My Insight turns ten at the end of August 2010 according to its birth
> certificate.  I will have had it nine years in April.
>
> Robert
> Silver, '00-#4581
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> 2e. Re: Insight owner location
>     Posted by: "lorelei@..." lorelei@...
> kidlorelei
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:07 pm ((PST))
>
> my very lovely citrus '00 lives in san francisco california. i've seen
> 2 other citrus that live within the city as well. are any of them on
> the list? (if so, i've waved to you!!)
>
> ---Lorelei_

> _______________
> 4. 2000 Insight
>     Posted by: "Nanette" nanettes@... ndietmeyer
>     Date: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:16 pm ((PST))
>
> My Silver 2000 Honda Insight is alive and well in Crestwood, Kentucky.
> It takes me to and from Louisville for work every day. It has about
> 96,000 miles on it and gets around 50 mpg (low, I know....). I bought
> it in 2002 when it had almost 6000 miles on it.
>
> Nanette
> #3453------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
>


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The main reason I had in asking for everyones location was that I usually wave
at the person driving an insight and never have a chance to meet them.
 
There are at least a dozen here in Orange county Calif. The reason I bought mine
in May of 2000 was the fantastic review I got from a guy in the parking lot of
24hr Fitness.
 
Jack
irvine, ca
173k
#402

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, kelmore.rm <kelmore@...> wrote:


From: kelmore.rm <kelmore@...>
Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: Insight owner location
To: honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:41 AM


 



> I am driving a 2002 CVT around Kansas City also.

I always wondered if any of those Insight owners I saw in KC were on this list.
Glad to see at least one is.

I know of another Insight owner up in Excelsior Springs, but that's because I
bought my Insight as a direct result of his buying a 2000 model. I'm more
reticent when it comes to buying new technology, so I watched him carefully for
a while and then took the plunge in 2002. Last time I saw him, he still has his
blue Insight and was pushing 200k. Whew!

Kevin











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> I am driving a 2002 CVT around Kansas City also.

I always wondered if any of those Insight owners I saw in KC were on this list. 
Glad to see at least one is.

I know of another Insight owner up in Excelsior Springs, but that's because I
bought my Insight as a direct result of his buying a 2000 model.  I'm more
reticent when it comes to buying new technology, so I watched him carefully for
a while and then took the plunge in 2002.  Last time I saw him, he still has his
blue Insight and was pushing 200k.  Whew!

Kevin

John wrote -

> Jack!  Just out of curiosity, where do you find the manufacturer's
> production order number?  I see yours is #402.

Look at your VIN, it is the last 4 or 3 numbers...

Rush

Jack!  Just out of curiosity, where do you find the manufacturer's
production order number?  I see yours is #402.

I own a blue 2001.   154,000 miles,  54 mpg.  I'm the third owner.  Went
350 miles to South Boston, MA in Feb 2008 to get it.

I am: John in Sayre,  PA

My Silver 2000 Honda Insight is alive and well in Crestwood, Kentucky.
It takes me to and from Louisville for work every day. It has about
96,000 miles on it and gets around 50 mpg (low, I know....). I bought
it in 2002 when it had almost 6000 miles on it.

Nanette
#3453

Hi from Doug,
My wife's 2002 Honda Insight CVT has 125K miles, runs great, is still
bulletproof, and is getting 50 to 56 mpg.  What a great car!  She drives 30
miles each way to work.  She use to drive a Nissan Maxima and I figured she
wouldn't like the small car but no problem.
We live in Sunnyvale, Ca, San Francisco bay area.
doug




________________________________
From: Mike Sherman <mike.sherman@...>
To: honda-hybred yahoo group <honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:26:16 AM
Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: Can I make a suggestion to all Insight 2000 to 2006
owners


"jack ravin" ravinparamedical@ yahoo.com wrote:

>It would be interesting to know where you are located when you post on this
site.
>Since the Insight is going to be 10 years old soon. Could we try to it?
>
>jack
>2000
>#402
>Irvine, CA

2006 MT, MIMA
67.6 lmpg
Cleveland, OH

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Mike Sherman                           <mike.sherman@ earthlink. net>



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my very lovely citrus '00 lives in san francisco california. i've seen
2 other citrus that live within the city as well. are any of them on
the list? (if so, i've waved to you!!)

---Lorelei



Quoting rschaffrath <robert@...>:

> Northwestern Nassau County on Long Island.
>
> My Insight turns ten at the end of August 2010 according to its
> birth certificate.  I will have had it nine years in April.
>
> Robert
> Silver, '00-#4581
>
> --- In honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Elmore <kelmore@...> wrote:
>>
>> "It would be interesting to know where you are located when you post on
>> this site. Since the Insight is going to be 10 years old soon. Could we
>> try to it?"
>>
>> My 2002 Insight is still cruising around Kansas City, MO.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>



--

http://www.filmfatale.org

I have a Dual brand cd/mp3 cd/USB/iPod (headphone jack) player with Bluetooth.
I have a c550 Garmin GPS that does play mp3s, but I put all my MP3's on a USB
Flash drive and plug it right into the front of my Dual Deck. The stock brackets
for the Insight worked fine.

Nic '01 Insight




________________________________
From: rschaffrath <robert@...>
To: honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 2:50:23 PM
Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: OEM  in dash CD players that fit the Insight


I have a Garmin C550.  Some of the Nuvi's such as the 765T can also play MP3's. 
The newest 1xxx series unfortunately cannot.  The C550 has an audio jack on the
back that I can plug a cassette adapter into and then play the GPS through the
Insight's stock radio.  I load the MP3's on a 4GB SDHC card and get several
hours of play time.

Robert
Silver, '00-#4581

--- In honda-hybrid@ yahoogroups. com, ed clement <kf6txb@...> wrote:
>
> Robert - What brand and model GPS/mp3 player do you have?
> ed '00 insight
>
> --- On Sun, 12/13/09, rschaffrath <robert@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: rschaffrath <robert@...>
> Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: OEM in dash CD players that fit the Insight
> To: honda-hybrid@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:47 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I have been following the thread and have found it very interesting. I still
have the stock radio to which I had added the six-CD changer many years ago. I
got it on eBay for less than half the cost of a new one and got the installation
kit from a discount Honda parts dealer. To date I have been happy with it though
changing the CD's can be a pain. However, I tend to use my iPod and/or GPS (with
built-in MP3 player) more now and the tape deck of the original radio allows me
to use a cassette adapter that plugs into the iPod or GPS. That is probably the
only use I can see for a cassette player any more if the radio does not have an
audio input jack.
>
> BTW, the Honda six-CD player that the Insight uses does work with home burned
CD's (not CDRW's). It is Honda branded but was made by Pioneer.
>
> Robert
> Silver, '00-#4581
>
> --- In honda-hybrid@ yahoogroups. com, lilyshellmulti@ ... wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone
> > Which Honda single CD player radios will basically "plug and play" fit into
the dash of a 2000 Insight ?? I have looked on ebay and what not and have seen a
wide variety of them ... from what other models of Honda's are the CD players
compatible with the Insights OEM wiring?
> > thanks, Mike
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Northwestern Nassau County on Long Island.

My Insight turns ten at the end of August 2010 according to its birth
certificate.  I will have had it nine years in April.

Robert
Silver, '00-#4581

--- In honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Elmore <kelmore@...> wrote:
>
> "It would be interesting to know where you are located when you post on
> this site. Since the Insight is going to be 10 years old soon. Could we
> try to it?"
>
> My 2002 Insight is still cruising around Kansas City, MO.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have a Garmin C550.  Some of the Nuvi's such as the 765T can also play MP3's. 
The newest 1xxx series unfortunately cannot.  The C550 has an audio jack on the
back that I can plug a cassette adapter into and then play the GPS through the
Insight's stock radio.  I load the MP3's on a 4GB SDHC card and get several
hours of play time.

Robert
Silver, '00-#4581

--- In honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com, ed clement <kf6txb@...> wrote:
>
> Robert - What brand and model GPS/mp3 player do you have?
> ed '00 insight
>
> --- On Sun, 12/13/09, rschaffrath <robert@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: rschaffrath <robert@...>
> Subject: [honda-hybrid] Re: OEM in dash CD players that fit the Insight
> To: honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:47 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I have been following the thread and have found it very interesting. I still
have the stock radio to which I had added the six-CD changer many years ago. I
got it on eBay for less than half the cost of a new one and got the installation
kit from a discount Honda parts dealer. To date I have been happy with it though
changing the CD's can be a pain. However, I tend to use my iPod and/or GPS (with
built-in MP3 player) more now and the tape deck of the original radio allows me
to use a cassette adapter that plugs into the iPod or GPS. That is probably the
only use I can see for a cassette player any more if the radio does not have an
audio input jack.
>
> BTW, the Honda six-CD player that the Insight uses does work with home burned
CD's (not CDRW's). It is Honda branded but was made by Pioneer.
>
> Robert
> Silver, '00-#4581
>
> --- In honda-hybrid@ yahoogroups. com, lilyshellmulti@ ... wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone
> > Which Honda single CD player radios will basically "plug and play" fit into
the dash of a 2000 Insight ?? I have looked on ebay and what not and have seen a
wide variety of them ... from what other models of Honda's are the CD players
compatible with the Insights OEM wiring?
> > thanks, Mike
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

"jack ravin" ravinparamedical@... wrote:

>It would be interesting to know where you are located when you post on this
site.
>Since the Insight is going to be 10 years old soon. Could we try to it?
>
>jack
>2000
>#402
>Irvine, CA

2006 MT, MIMA
67.6 lmpg
Cleveland, OH


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   Mike Sherman                           <mike.sherman@...>