I believe the 2nd gen is similar, but I haven't taken it apart. It's ok, I'm
used to the proceedure to get a new IMA battery. My Insight needed one at 42K
and I had another Insight I bought to sell with around 100K that also threw the
IMA code (conveniently after sitting in the sun for a week at the airport). I
think I kind of pissed off the service tech when I came in and told him the code
and what the car needed per the exact service bulletin. He put a note on there
saying something "customer says he's here for a new battery". In the end it got
a new battery with little questions asked.

Rick

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Ron Hansen <yahoo4@...> wrote:

From: Ron Hansen <yahoo4@...>
Subject: Re: [honda-hybrid] IMA on
To: "honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com" <honda-hybrid@yahoogroups.com>
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HCHs (at least the gen 1s 2003-2005) use a single fan to cool the

battery and the IPU. On top of that, the fan sucks down through a

nearly vertical stack of batteries, while an Insight has a dedicated

battery fan that sucks sideways through the horizontal pack.



I have seen a number of southern cars with batteries that are

extremely weak and it's always the upper center ones that are the worst.



The best thing you can do is to blast the ac and go easy on the

throttle until the car cools down.



Laboriously tapped out on an iPhone keypad.



On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:31 AM, Ricky Suiter <ricksuiter@yahoo. com> wrote:



> 2000 is included in the 10yr 150K mile warranty, but you're just

> outside of it. Since Honda has a good record of out of warranty

> consideration I would ask the dealership to open a case with the

> area warranty supervisor and see if they will assist, it can't hurt.

> If they won't cover it all I'd ask if they would cover the control

> modules at least since they may have contributed to the battery

> dying prematurely. .. at least according to the service bulletin.

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> As an interesting note, my 2007 HCH is being driven maybe once or

> twice a week on average as of late. It's sitting in the sun with

> highs in the upper 10x's the rest of the time. Every time I get in

> to drive it it will go in to a recalibration within a mile. Today it

> started recalibrating right after starting the car so the heat

> really is causing a lot of self discharge. The car has just a little

> less than 36K miles on it so I have plenty of IMA warranty left if

> it does decide to pop the code, but my Insight exhibited a lot less

> of this behavior before throwing the code of death.

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> Rick

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> --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Rushd <Rushd@ironandwood. org> wrote:

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> Subject: Re: [honda-hybrid] IMA on

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