Hi Ernie, As GM goes...so goes the cancer of US Corporate Fascism. ... From: arcologic <Arcologic@...> Subject: [future-fuels-and-vehicles] Re:Bye bye GM ...
It's a cute bit of rhetoric, but we (Lee, myself, others) are the messengers and we did the best we could to warn that this day would come. Please stop trying...
Sorry, guys, but GM is likely to hang around. And, when they come out with a good product, I know you will be quick to take credit for it. Ernie [Non-text...
[Default] On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:56:36 -0600, arcologic ... Hi Ernie: We do not deserve and have not earned this sort of unwarranted nasty comment from you,...
Okay, Murdoch, Do you feel better now? Got it off your chest? We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people whose lives were tangled up with the...
[Default] On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:25:14 -0600, arcologic ... In the distant past I have been a Saab owner and a Buick owner, but ok, I'm a Ford owner over the...
I guess thinking this through a bit further, now that we are all much bigger owners of shares in the company, if there are some constructive ideas out there...
I will add: there is some continued element of quite-unfair shoot-the-messenger in your response. So, I accept that there is nothing to be done about this...
Thanks, Murdoch, Good thoughts Ernie In a message dated 06/03/09 14:22:55 Mountain Daylight Time, future-fuels-and-vehicles@yahoogroups.com writes: One...
I don't know how good the Volt will be. It has been re-invented some along the way. I would be pleased to see the EV-1 brought into production, maybe with...
It looks like there is news out with respect to a High-speed Electric from Miles Rubin. It won't happen I guess until 2010, and it will be named something...
I am glad to see that the XS500 is not dead. Still, this is a car that was promised by late 2008 at a cost of about $30,000. Now we are talking about 2010...
[Default] On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:07:43 -0600, arcologic ... With regard to the idea of building the EV1 again: I haven't raised the possibility because we have...
[Default] On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:03:16 -0700, murdoch ... What I meant was: maybe production of the EV1, or something like it, could actually be brought back...
Murdoch, The unfortunate reality of the EV1 is that most of the suppliers got burned after GM promised them production volumes ramping into the tens of...
Thanks, this gets to the heart of what I was trying to remember I'd half-heard. Maybe an "end-around" this type of thinking is to contrast it with the ...
I wonder what "launch" means if they only plan to have 170 on the road over the ensuing 3 quarters. Well, 170 is more than 0. Apparently it's a $49k USD, 62...
We can also hope that engineers at Saab, who (along with their EV1 engineer brethren had their plug-in dreams mutilated by GM managers (just a few years ago,...
In a message dated 06/04/09 16:27:16 Mountain Daylight Time, Dave writes: The only way this *might* happen would be if another OEM - perhaps a Chinese or...
At least GM spent some (probably taxpayer) money attempting to create the appearance of a fair trial before excommunicating, hanging and eventually crushing...
But didn't GM also just finish telling us all that bankruptcy was not an option for them? GM is more suited to selling abundant quantities of executive bull...
[moderator note: sometimes we use a case-by-case-basis to evaluate if we should let messages through. This is one of those messages that is fronting for...