See Ebay Item

270089762493

Auction proceeds to be donated to charity.

Thanks for looking

Rich King

Any ideas on locating a set ?????

Dave

Call me at 650-961-1386 any day from 11:30 - 9:00   Patric

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To: fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FiberFab Aztec] Re: aztec 2 wanted .....

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  On Oct 20, 2006, at 11:47 PM, chopperscott65 wrote:

   > I have a 65 aztec II with 65 corvette taillights. Located in
Lakeside,
   > Oregon near Coos Bay. I would sell it for $1000.00. 541-759-2742
Scott
  >
  >
  John and Susan Morton
  61 Shakespeare Crescent
  Barrie, ON, L4N 6B9
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> I have a 65 aztec II with 65 corvette taillights. Located in Lakeside,
>  Oregon near Coos Bay. I would sell it for $1000.00. 541-759-2742 Scott
>
>
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Got pics I am interested

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I have a 65 aztec II with 65 corvette taillights. Located in Lakeside,
Oregon near Coos Bay. I would sell it for $1000.00. 541-759-2742 Scott

I once found a site with
pictures of the Aztec GT's
that were made in Europe,
but I lost it in a
computer crash. Now I
can't pick up the trail
back to it. Does anybody
know what it is?

we have a customer that may be interested in a rough AZTEC 2 WITH DOORS
Dave @ OldSchool Restorations of North Alabama

THE MICHIGAN GTSCA AND ILLINOIS CRA KIT CAR CLUBS ARE JOINTLY
SPONSORING THE 5TH ANNUAL CLASSIC REPLICAR SHOW(KIT CARS), THIS
SATURDAY ,JUNE 17TH.  THE SHOW WILL BE HELD AT THE GILMORE CAR MUSEUM
NEAR HICKORY CORNERS MI.(9:00AM / 4:00PM).  KIT CAR OWNERS / BUILDERS /
ALL AUTOMOTIVE GERAHEADS ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE,

EBAY ITEM NUMBER

4635687178

The original owner of my Aztec wrote detailed notes on the experience
of building an Aztec in the 60's I posted the scans in jimster's Aztec.
More to come. Any help on building my own web page would be greatly
appreciated. My IP allows me to have a web page. thanks Jim

That is awesome. Hope to see more pics and stuff. Good luck with the car.

Spencer Wilson
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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 6:00 PM
Subject: [FiberFab Aztec] Just bought a really cool Aztec


> Just bought a really complete Aztec that was built in 1967 and shown in
> car shows in St.Louis. I have the complete history and memoirs of when
> he was building the car. This car was driven cross country to Las Vegas
> for his honeymoon. I bought the car from the original owner's nephew.
> The car has opening dors and has several security features involved. I
> am going to post a scan of the original notes he kept and pictures
> under "jimster's Aztec" more to follow.......
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Just bought a really complete Aztec that was built in 1967 and shown in
car shows in St.Louis. I have the complete history and memoirs of when
he was building the car. This car was driven cross country to Las Vegas
for his honeymoon. I bought the car from the original owner's nephew.
The car has opening dors and has several security features involved. I
am going to post a scan of the original notes he kept and pictures
under "jimster's Aztec" more to follow.......

I like the aztec body that's "squared-off", which kit model was that?

Thanks Dave...

I have a feeling that due to the OLD strict rules about fenderless
cars there probably were not many of these kits sold... Especially
being an East Coast based manufacturer... Unlike the V-Rod or
VolksRod these sat very low and sleek to the ground.. I guess it was
about 6 months ago there was one on SAMBA web site for sale but that
one is long gone and no way to contact the owner...  There were not
many kits on the roads back in the 70's other than DUNE BUGGY's... I
have a feeling that there is one of these setting in a garage long
since been given up on and just waiting for somebody to find it...

Any help will be apprectiated...

Rich



--- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rich...Saw a few oif the Track Roadsters when I lived in New
> England...forgot about them..they had a cool look.  Maybe my I can
> find one through my contacts up there.
>    Ignore the guy from CMC's parts room. Maybe a nice guy, but he
has
> NO appreciation for preserving the past...or early Aztecs which he
> has a low (uneducated) opinion of.  He only uses ( abuses) this
group
> to promote other builders.
>
> Dave Perry    OldSchool Restorations of North Alabama
>
>
> --- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, ragstorichs53 <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have searched my ass off on the internet only to come up with a
> > blank.
> >
> > I have a friend that is seeking some information....
> >
> > Back in the early 70's there was a company located in Conn (I
don't
> > remember the town).  The company went under the name of VTW.
They
> were
> > at that time producing 1927 Ford TRACK ROADSTER style kits that
> were
> > mounted on a VW chassis.  Im seeking literature or information
that
> > anyone might have on this company.   I would also be interested
in
> > locating one of these kits in project status or complete....
> >
> > Any information that could be provided would be greatly
> appreciated...
> >
> > Thanks Rich King
> >
>

Hi Rich...Saw a few oif the Track Roadsters when I lived in New
England...forgot about them..they had a cool look.  Maybe my I can
find one through my contacts up there.
    Ignore the guy from CMC's parts room. Maybe a nice guy, but he has
NO appreciation for preserving the past...or early Aztecs which he
has a low (uneducated) opinion of.  He only uses ( abuses) this group
to promote other builders.

Dave Perry    OldSchool Restorations of North Alabama


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wrote:
>
> I have searched my ass off on the internet only to come up with a
> blank.
>
> I have a friend that is seeking some information....
>
> Back in the early 70's there was a company located in Conn (I don't
> remember the town).  The company went under the name of VTW.  They
were
> at that time producing 1927 Ford TRACK ROADSTER style kits that
were
> mounted on a VW chassis.  Im seeking literature or information that
> anyone might have on this company.   I would also be interested in
> locating one of these kits in project status or complete....
>
> Any information that could be provided would be greatly
appreciated...
>
> Thanks Rich King
>

I have searched my ass off on the internet only to come up with a
blank.

I have a friend that is seeking some information....

Back in the early 70's there was a company located in Conn (I don't
remember the town).  The company went under the name of VTW.  They were
at that time producing 1927 Ford TRACK ROADSTER style kits that were
mounted on a VW chassis.  Im seeking literature or information that
anyone might have on this company.   I would also be interested in
locating one of these kits in project status or complete....

Any information that could be provided would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks Rich King

Blake the picture hasn't come through.  Could you resend.

   Regards

   Andrew

Blake Stanley <bhstanle@...> wrote:
   I have a 60's Aztec GT for sale, not sure how different it is from the GT 2. 
I need to get rid of it, so if you are interested, here is an attached picture.

Blake Stanley

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Blake Stanley

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I'm after a new project and I particularly like the look of the GT II
are there any for sale? does anyone have a set of molds or can anyone
recommend a similar looking kit from the same era that is available.

I have started my new site that is going to be about my experiences
with the rebuild of my Aztec 7. If you want to follow along, add ideas
or just want to say hi, feel free to drop by any time. There is also a
forum if you feel like adding ideas right to the site. You can check
it out at www.fiberfabaztec7.com. I don't have many pics up right now
but will have some soon. I would also like to make a gallery of cars
as well, much like Chris's site.

Any help or info would be great. Thanks.

Spencer.

I finally got my Aztec 7 home and started to do some work to it. previous
owner did a ton of really ODD work to it, including molding the whole rear
quarter to the car and then cutting out the louvers for engine access. Part
of the greatness of this car was the flip up rear section for engine access.
Also the previous owner thought cars were supposed to be completed with wood
as there is a lot of stuff under very poorly done glass that is either wood
or expand-a-foam. I have my work cut out for me, that is for sure.

I am very happy to finally get it in my hands and start work on it. I have
ripped off the rear quarter and gutted the interior. I will continue to
disassemble it and do a full rebuild on it.

Thanks.

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No pics yet - just did enough to pass inspection and get it on the
road - been sitting in my garage for the last 3 years.  It's pretty
rough so I have been hesitant to take any photos.  I drove it without
the doors - solved the ventilation (or claustrophobia) problem.  I am
planning on getting an upholtery shop to build me a soft cover with
windows that just snaps in.  Maybe even do a 2 piece so just the
driver's side can be taken off when thwere is no passenger.  This
also would lessen the anxiety if this thing ever flips on it's roof -
no fun I bet with hard gullwing doors!
Paul

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<youcanbugme@h...> wrote:
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> The Aztec-7 I remember was definitely black, I think it was green
and then
> someone painted it. It was great fun to drive, it's a shame Beetles
did not
> come with Air Conditioning as a standard feature. Pop out windows
don't
> solve the ventilation problem as well as we would want for South
Florida
> weather.
>
> Do you have any pictures to show?
>
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> From: fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 10/07/05 01:25:04
> To: fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com
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>    Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:16:23 -0700 (PDT)
>    From: Paul Therriault <in_ia@y...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 156
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> Hi Chris - This one was (and is) still the grey
> gelcoat from the factory.  Nothing else stands out
> about it - I had built it just about up to the wiring
> and was looking for someone to finish it.  When I
> trailered it back I had more work to do before it
> would pass inspection.  I should have the persons name
> somewhere in my documents - maybe it's time I dig
> those out.
> Thanx - Paul
>
> --- Chris Aguilera <youcanbugme@h...> wrote:
>
> > I did help a gentleman with an Aztec-7 here in
> > Florida,  if I recall, it was
> > either black or green - but I did not do the actual
> > wiring. Do you remember
> > any other details about the car?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
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> >    Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:28:04 -0000
> >    From: "in_ia" <in_ia@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Any Aztek GT's for sale?
> >
> > Hi Chris - Were you the Chris that helped me move
> > along my Aztec7
> > back in the '80's ?  I trailered it from NH to FL to
> > have the wiring
> > and other items done by a Fiberfab (CMC?) employee
> > and trailered it
> > back to NH.  I have had it on the road since then,
> > but not in the
> > last few years - priorities.  Just curious.
> >
> > Paul
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Hi Chris - The person in Florida who helped me was Craig (not Chris)
Bushman - just outside of Miami.
Thanx for the reply...
Paul

--- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Aguilera"
<youcanbugme@h...> wrote:
> I did help a gentleman with an Aztec-7 here in Florida,  if I
recall, it was
> either black or green - but I did not do the actual wiring. Do you
remember
> any other details about the car?
>
> Chris
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>    Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:28:04 -0000
>    From: "in_ia" <in_ia@y...>
> Subject: Re: Any Aztek GT's for sale?
>
> Hi Chris - Were you the Chris that helped me move along my Aztec7
> back in the '80's ?  I trailered it from NH to FL to have the wiring
> and other items done by a Fiberfab (CMC?) employee and trailered it
> back to NH.  I have had it on the road since then, but not in the
> last few years - priorities.  Just curious.
>
> Paul
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Chris - This one was (and is) still the grey
gelcoat from the factory.  Nothing else stands out
about it - I had built it just about up to the wiring
and was looking for someone to finish it.  When I
trailered it back I had more work to do before it
would pass inspection.  I should have the persons name
somewhere in my documents - maybe it's time I dig
those out.
Thanx - Paul

--- Chris Aguilera <youcanbugme@...> wrote:

> I did help a gentleman with an Aztec-7 here in
> Florida,  if I recall, it was
> either black or green - but I did not do the actual
> wiring. Do you remember
> any other details about the car?
>
> Chris
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>    Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:28:04 -0000
>    From: "in_ia" <in_ia@...>
> Subject: Re: Any Aztek GT's for sale?
>
> Hi Chris - Were you the Chris that helped me move
> along my Aztec7
> back in the '80's ?  I trailered it from NH to FL to
> have the wiring
> and other items done by a Fiberfab (CMC?) employee
> and trailered it
> back to NH.  I have had it on the road since then,
> but not in the
> last few years - priorities.  Just curious.
>
> Paul
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>




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I don't need any apology...I'm not offended.

Apparently you don't think much of VW power either .I'm not a
proponent of flat4's, but you're still in the 80's.  Get up to date,
you can build a LOT of horsepower cheap and the vw's are running 10
sec 1./4 miles without appologizing to some 427's that can't get
there that fast at twice the price. Read one of the latest " Hot VW "
magazines.
    After waiting over a year we STILL can't find a Valkyrie
production car to look at. "Promises" is all we get.  Their website
also makes one think they quit.  I doubt if one can be completed for
under $ 30k without cutting corners, and what you quote won't get a
car on the road.

     Although as a professional restorer, I might prefer v8 La Dawri's
and Kellisons ( $25k) , I would NOT say they are a better choice than
a well built Aztec at $10k ...and the fact is, a 1000 Aztec on eBay
CAN become a completed nice HOT driver for less than that.

    THIS forum is for the PROMOTION of 1960's Aztecs, including
encouraging and assisting present owners with their cars.  I believe
your comments are in opposition to that purpose, particularly when
you have little, if any experience with these vehicles , and your
comments are from a CMC employment 15 or more years later.





--- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Aguilera"
<youcanbugme@h...> wrote:
> Dear Dave,
>
> I apologize to you directly, and to the entire Fiberfab-Aztec
group, if you
> have taken offense at what I said. It is just my opinion, about the
older
> Fiberfab kit cars. I did not mean to insinuate that Fiberfab cars
were bad
> kits, what I said was:
>
> ". . . you obviously will have problems getting any replacement
parts for a
> kit car that old . . ."
>
> This statement is based on the fact that when CMC purchased the
Fiberfab
> company in the mid 80's, we had their entire inventory shipped to
our
> factory in Florida. I was looking forward to discovering and
cataloging
> hundreds of new parts to sell to needy Fiberfab customers. Imagine
my shock
> when all we had out of the hundreds of parts needed to build a
single kit,
> was a few Aztec-7 windshields and a few boxes of miscellaneous
parts from
> the other Fiberfab cars, like weatherstrip and door handles. This
means that
> even 20 years ago, we did not have enough parts to combine together
and make
> even a single kit. I therefore applaud your ingenuity and
perseverance to be
> able to improvise and create or substitute whatever parts you need
for your
> reconstructed cars.
>
> I also said that the Fiberfab cars were "hard to build". This is a
statement
> I should have qualified very strongly, and I have made this mistake
before,
> too. I assumed that the builder was less competent than I was, and
this is
> wrong of me. There are people less capable than you or I, and there
are some
> who are more capable too. Some people on another "kit builders
list" I am on
>  are exceptionably great, building their kit cars from scratch,
just from a
> set of plans! Although they do buy engines and suspension parts,
they have
> to attach these mechanicals to a sub-chassis they must weld up, and
they
> also make their own car bodies using the rqriley composite foam
method  and
> they even cut out a complex 3-dimensional monocoque chassis out of
plywood
> (nature's composite) then apply fiberglass for strength and
rigidity. It is
> wrong for me to assume everybody on this Fiberfab-Azrec list would
not be
> able to take on a kit build as demanding as that, I am sure there
are many
> of you who would be up to the challenge. Consequently, some of you
will not,
> and will prefer to have all the parts, ready to assemble. As Mr.
Worf would
> say, "There is no shame in doing your best."
>
> So, when I say a particular kit car, including a Fiberfab kit car,
was "hard
> to build", what I should have said was "hard to build" compared to
what?
> Hard as Chinese Algebra?- Not if you are a Chinese mathematician,
like my
> wife, Nancy, an accountant. And since I have never built an Aztec,
how would
> I know? I have seen the construction manuals to all the Fibefab
cars and
> they are all very poor. I can compare these manuals to the CMC
manuals and
> cars and I have made a determination that the average kit car
builder would
> find a Classic Motor Carriages kit easier to build than a Fiberfab
kit. This
> is not a put down of the Fiberfab kits, it is understandable that
CMC would
> have a better manual, they had more resources available. I will say
in
> defense of Fiberfab, CMC never made a coupe only convertibles, so
they could
> justify not having to engineer locking doors or roll up windows. And
> Fiberfab did.
>
> Now I would also like to straighten out a few things about what YOU
said.
>
> I have plenty of kit car experience, thanks for asking, and my
years of
> experience with Classic was not in the "parts room", as you might
think, I
> only visited that part of the factory when giving a tour to a
customer. I
> was one of  "the suits" and I had several people working behind the
counter
> in the parts room, while I was in the main offices. As the head of
the Parts
> Department, I reported directly to one of the Vice Presidents, and
we had
> several. Classic Motor Carriages was not a small group of loyal car
fanatics
> working out of a garage like Boyd Coddington on the "American Hot
Rods" TV
> show on Discover, building one or two $60,000+ hot rods at a time,
it was a
> very serious, large scale and profitable business. The Factory was
over 250
> 000 square feet under roof, housing all manufacturing, sales
departments, a
> showroom full of cars, the main offices and the executive offices.
We had
> separate in house departments for marketing, accounting, research
and
> development, customer service, personnel and training,  -
everything was set
> up like a multi-million dollar company. 200 kits a month at $8000
each, do
> the math! What "problems" CMC had was, primarily, complaints that
they were
> were too aggressive in their sales tactics, like all car dealers
today.
> Another problem that ultimately closed them down was after I
stopped working
> there. They State of Florida Attorney General closed them down
because they
> were sending out kits with missing parts and the backordered
missing parts
> were either sent late to the customer or never sent at all and cars
were not
> being completed. So the goverment steps in, shuts them down and
assures that
> there will be no more parts for anyone, anymore. Good thinking,
Florida.
>
> You also need to check the Fiberfab.us website prices carefully
because I
> think you made an error on the price of the new Valkyrie kit, it is
not $30K
>  A bare body is $3250 and it is not a reproduction, it is pulled
from the
> original molds except now there is a new longer tail section as an
option.
> The Basic Package is $5750 and the Deluxe is under $7500. Add to
that the
> cost of your mechanical components, which varies widely, and you
certainly
> won't approach 30 grand!
>
> I still believe that a brand new Valkyrie kit, together with it's
superior
> availability of parts, and a new body made to fully interchange
with a
> vintage Fiberfab Valkyrie body, but using a more modern drive-
train, and a
> generally more reliable set of components, even an air conditioner
(oh!),
> makes a much better kit choice for the "beginner" kit builder, than
would a
> 35 or 40 year old VW beetle based kit car, no matter what great
company made
> the kit. I would go so far as to say that even an "experienced" kit
builder
> is probably going to be happier building one and more importantly,
driving a
> kit car that is not VW beetle based, and that won't be embarrassed
next to a
> $60K Cobra replica with a Ford 427 side oiler V-8. Or even a
modified Fiero.
>
> I know you have seen a few well built Aztecs and other vintage FF
cars too,
> there is no denying that. There is a wonderful Fiberfab Jamaican on
ebay
> motors right now, I can't remember seeing a better one, they are so
rare.
> The original Fiberfab Aztec was a looking great design, but
remember even
> the original Fiberfab eventually superceded it with the Valkyrie,
perhaps
> because of the limitations of the VW chassis? When combined with
the fact
> that the Aztec is so similar to our more modern Valkyrie, with no
VW parts,
> I think, for me, it makes it a better choice. Have you seen all the
> available options for the new Valkyrie?
>
> As far as seeing the new and completed Fiberfab.us cars, you will
have to
> ask your customer to be patient and wait for the cars to be built
or build
> one, it takes 4 to 6 weeks from the time of deposit to have a kit .
You know
> the bodies are top notch, cast from the original molds, but with
even closer
> attention to detail. The cars are selling very well, but it takes
time to
> build them, I myself am on a waiting list for a demonstrator!
>
> So in summation, I mean no disrespect, different points of view
make the
> world go 'round. I was really hoping that you would all be
supportive of
> bringing back a favorite like the Valkyrie. Just for my own
edification,
> what car would you like to see be brought back to life next? Would
it be the
> Fiberfab Jamaican, the Fiberfab Aztec-7 or the legendary Sterling?
Would you
> like to see these VW based cars converted to Fiero donor car or
something
> else, like a custom tube chassis?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris "Edwards" Aguilera
> former Parts Manager
> Classic Motor Carriages
> and Fiberfab Co.
>
>
>    Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:55:18 -0000
>    From: "Dave" <dave@r...>
> Subject: ????  a better choice ???????
>
> Chris, with all due respect for your CMC experience in the PARTS
ROOM
> in the 80's,  I think you have done the 1960's group a dis-service
by
> insinuating you know about their cars, and that a reproduced
Valkyrie
> is a " better choice " ( at 30k ) than a well built Historic AzteC
at
> under 10k.
>    I know nothing firsthand about CMC and it's problems, but
Fiberfab
> built some pretty good kits in the 60's, including the AzteC and
> Avenger/Valkyrie series. As a professional restoration shop usually
> with 5 kit frameoffs in progress, I will disagree with what you say
> about the Fiberfab kits. I have seen some VERY well done cars from
> that period, and that to suggest that Aztecs are not a good choice
is
> over the line on this forum.  Actually, we prefer to do Fiberfabs
and
> Kellisons because of their engineering and quality 'glaswork
>
>    As to the Valyrie reproduction, I have a customer that is still
> waiting ( over a year) to look at a couple of production cars in the
> southeast. Maybe you , as rep, can tell me who the owners are so I
> can call them
>
> Dave Perry   www.race-cardrivers.com/shop.htm
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dave,
Nice car but not what I was looking for,I love the lines of the Aztek
GT.

--- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@r...> wrote:
> --- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Jorge" <duganddee1@a...>
wrote:
> > Anyone have one for sale in the southeast?
>
> We have a running driving Avenger GT15 flat six power 3650 in North
> Alabama. Car was built around 1970, maybe factory built car,  now
needs
> paint, carpet, wheels, and TLC
> Dave  OldSchool Restorations of North Alabama  256 507 3328 cell

--- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Jorge" <duganddee1@a...> wrote:
> Anyone have one for sale in the southeast?

We have a running driving Avenger GT15 flat six power 3650 in North
Alabama. Car was built around 1970, maybe factory built car,  now needs
paint, carpet, wheels, and TLC
Dave  OldSchool Restorations of North Alabama  256 507 3328 cell

Anyone have one for sale in the southeast?

Hi Dave,

Here is a pic of my Astra on the stock 1967 swingaxle type 1 chassis:
http://www.bigblackdot.net/astra/pages/MVC-013F_JPG.htm
(I'm assuming that this is what the original kit was designed to fit
due to it's production years.)

This chassis shown above is merely the body dolly at this time.
Something that allows me to move the body wherever I need it while I
work on the real intended chassis, a 1970 IRS type 1 chassis.

The wheelbase for a stock 67 swingaxle type1 and a stock 70 IRS type 1
are both 94.5in.

I have not yet fitted the body on the 70 pan, but I assume it will fit
the same.

Are you saying that your kit is not fitting correctly to the pan?

What year/type chassis are you using?

Al



--- In fiberfabaztec@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@r...> wrote:
> Hi Al...same here.  He never answered my emails , so I didn't bid
> either. It went for what it was worth.
>     Please do me a favor and measure YOUR wheelbase, I assume you
> have already set the body on your chassis and know how the wheels
> line up.  I want it more for confirmation of my thoughts.
>
> Dave