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Evidence for Chevron-GM collusion to suppress NiMH batteries: from E   Message List  
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Re: Evidence for Chevron-GM collusion : now it's Standard Oil that owns NiMH

I have asked Jay Friedland several times why Plug In America won't push for some
action on chevron's control over nimh technology. DOE or Justice could push for
the sale of the rights. Congress could do something. Not sure what is
constitutional. Tax companies that have battery technology that is under
utilized for plug-in EVs?

Anyone have any ideas or an in with the Plug In America "Team?"
http://www.pluginamerica.org/about-us/our-team.html Can anyone ask PIA what they
are doing to make Nimh available?

Fred

--- In electric_vehicles_for_sale@yahoogroups.com, "doug korthof"
<live_oil_free@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Marcia,
>
> Letter writing campaign: Not a bad idea in any case.
>
> But GM doesn't own the patent licensing rights any more, Standard Oil owns
control of NiMH.
>
> So it wouldn't be a condition of the GM bailout, except that Obama's GM
financiers could require GM to negotiate a deal with Standard Oil.
>
> But if Standard Oil didn't want to negotiate, nothing that GM, or anyone else
outside the Justice Dept., could do would force them to release NiMH.
>
> The fact that no manufacturer plans on using proven NiMH, but instead promises
unproven Lithium, means that they are all dissimulating --
> L Y I N G
> -- and the whole thing is a crock.
>
> Wait for the Lithium Teslas to start needing battery packs, in about 18
months, and you can pick one up for maybe $70K IMO.
>
> Meanwhile, their "S" sedan is D O A if it plans on using Lithium batteries.
>
> You just can't use a $30,000 battery to make a $20,000 EV.
>
> Detroit only spends $6K per car to make it -- the rest is overhead, selling
expense, advertizing, dealer overhead, management waste, etc.
>
> Now if they wanted to make a business of it, they could bring the cost of the
NiMH battery down to the $3K range, and sell the EV for $30,000.
>
> But they just plain don't wanna, and the naivete of the commentators (and the
general public) is alarming. Or maybe it's not naivete, maybe just they know
it's B.S.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> --- In electric_vehicles_for_sale@yahoogroups.com, Marcia Everett <aicram62@>
wrote:
> >
> > Doug: Why not start a letter writing campaign or postcard campaign to tell
President Obama to include releasing the NiMH battery as part of the bail out or
whatever else we have in leverage over them. I mean we supposedly OWN part of
the company now. Also we could petition the UNION members other owners to
support the release of the batteries. You write it I'll spread it..
> > Marcia
> >
> >





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While Josh (Murdoch), who wrote this, is very circumspect and careful not to draw untoward conclusions, the fact is that GM suppressed use of NiMH for plug-in...
doug korthof
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Jun 28, 2009
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Hi: The link to my blog on this is here: http://evworld.com/blogs/index.cfm?authorid=51&blogid=762 Going forward, I would prefer that my blog be linked rather...
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Doug: Why not start a letter writing campaign or postcard campaign to tell President Obama to include releasing the NiMH battery as part of the bail out or...
Marcia Everett
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Jun 28, 2009
10:51 pm

Hi Marcia, Letter writing campaign: Not a bad idea in any case. But GM doesn't own the patent licensing rights any more, Standard Oil owns control of NiMH. So...
doug korthof
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Jun 28, 2009
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Doug, et.al.: Yes, that's true, BUT... Obama could certainly make it a condition of the bailout that GM has to make available to the public the confidential ...
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Jun 29, 2009
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I have asked Jay Friedland several times why Plug In America won't push for some action on chevron's control over nimh technology. DOE or Justice could push...
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