Yeah guys much props to all who made it what it was.  Come on over to
www.datsun1200.com and recapture some of the magic.

--- In datsun1200@y..., quijoteus <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> REST IN PEACE yahoo club.

REST IN PEACE yahoo club.

All from rust free LA car now in St. Louis and cut in pieces. 1200
front and rear suspension; gas tank, rear body half with good RR
quarter and R rocker panel; trim pieces; rear bumper; some misc
stuff. FREE COME & GET IT. Peter peterzekert@... or 314 291-8441.

I sent a letter with similar sentiments to yahoo about 2 months ago.
I also hate ( a strong word, yet appropriate ) Yahoo for their
successful destruction of a great online community.
I truly hope we can all catch up again at pfbranco's datsun1200.com.

I will never recommend their services, and will try my best never to
use their services ever again.

Please stop posting here, we are supporting yahoo.

Chris.

--- In datsun1200@y..., pfbranco <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Jaime,
>
> This message really got my attention. I Share the same feeling,
> Yahoo is falling. Not only in groups, in every service they
> provided. I cannot download anymore my email to my personal email
> client like outlook or Eudora, I have to pay now for it. Yahoo
> briefcase, a place where I had my files, is gone, I can only have
> pictures there now, this advertizing mess with windows popups and
> huge banners. If they incresed publicity isnt enougf? Why now I
have
> to pay for services that I had free. Not the way to do it.
>
> But the datsun 1200 community will not fall with it! We have a new
> living site at http://www.datsun1200.com , the commutity is there.
> 30-50 vititors per day.
>
> Login with your yahoo ID "jaimepedro" and password is "datsun1200",
> change the pass after you login in edit profile/account, you will
> keep you membership since 2001 and 112 posts
>
> Have a nice day, free of advertizment.
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
> --- In datsun1200@y..., jaimecidpedro <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >   All this mess created by yahoo has no remedy. The great fun and
> > communication we all were enjoying is gone. Lots of former
members
> > are not around,and it is dificult to establish communication.
This
> > club,as well as others like the 210,have been irreparably being
> > damaged by the unilaterall actions from the yahoo "experts",which
> in
> > fact are a bunch of dorks! The whole world is watching how
> ridicule
> > and inneficient,and above all,selfish and bratty this people are.
> > They clame it is their right to manage the clubs the way they see
> > fit,but they have a responsability towards people when engaging
in
> > mass communicatiopn,and beyond that,their yahoo site is only as
> good
> > as the number of visitors the yahoo site receives,without
us,yahoo
> is
> > nothing,no visitors,no revenue from ads and the like. This
> > stupid "groups" thing is the biggest flaw I have seen in the
> internet
> > world,I wonder who is behind this,if he has not gotten fired
> already.
> >     As for myself,I do not use this clubs anymore,in part for the
> > dificulty in using them,the inefficiency of the system,and for
the
> > long list of fallen members lost in this "groups" move,the
> feedback
> > and info available before is nowhere to be found,sorry  guys,but
> it
> > seems the flavor is not in anymore.
> >     I am looking into other good places ,for example,OZ dat,in
> > Australia. Also Datsun world,any other place I can find,I feel
> Yahoo
> > just run over all of us with a great deal of disrespect. Jaime

Hi Datsunalex

The A12A heads bolt to the A14 block the same but the intake
manifolds may be different. I think the exhaust manifolds are the
same. You may have to use the manifolds from the head that you are
putting on. All A-series heads will bolt to all A series blocks, only
the manifolds changed. I hope this helps.

Mareo

hi every body !!!

eyy Mareo!!

i can use a A14 block with a A12A  head  ?????

what i need to change ??? nothing ???

best regards


i rebuilding a A14 engine but i have problem with the manifold of A12.


----------------> Moderator

Please post this at the Club http://datsun1200.com

Thanks

daniel

Finally, I figured it out. when we switched from @home
to Cox.net...I no longer could get in to datsun1200.com
then I tried it at work and it worked. when I put in a proxy
server in the connections portion of my browser setup I was
then able to get to the site. to find a proxy to use, just
go to http://www.multiproxy.org/ and select a proxy server from the
list..you may have to try several before it works..
good luck

Hey Sterlingmac,
Last year, someone posted a message with a bunch of stats on the A-
series motors. They said that the A15 could be bored .140 oversized.
Do you know if this is correct? Is the A15 that much different from
the A14 block? My A14 block has about 6mm batween the #2 and #3
cylinders nd taking away .140 would only leave about that same amount
of distance between the cylinders. Do you know how much the A14 and
the A15 can safely be bored? I have an A14 but I want an A15 and I
want to build it like I did my old very high RPM A12. I want it to
have a larger bore that stroke. .140 of an inch would do that and
make it over 1600 CCs but I don't think that is possible. Any info
would be appreciated.

I am still having problems getting into the new 1200 Club. I can get
in but I can't log in.

Thanks
Mareo

The new groups is too confusing to me. I am just not very computer
friendly and the new groups has me wondering what to do next. I have
been on the site a few times but I have a hard time navigating to
where I want to be. The old club was simple without all of the many
places to go to.

ANYWAY,
I finally got my 1200 on the road. My exhaust vibrates onto the frame
at idle and that bugs me. I need to take it off and re-weld it.

I had a fit with the gas tank. The idiot that de-rusted it didn't
plug up the suction or vent tubes and they were all stopped up. It
took a while to get then unplugged. My gasline from the tank to the
fuel pump was plugged also with rust and that gave me a fit for a
couple of days. I tried to run a wire through it to get it unstopped
but the wire only siezed up after a couple of bends. I finally got a
large weed-eater line and pushed it through then I blew the line with
125 pounds of air for half an hour. It  didn't need that long but I
was having fun with it, LOL. That worked real well and I haven't had
any problems with it yet.

I have over 150,000 miles on the motor now and it pushes a bit of
smoke when I floorboard the gas pedal. I am still going to drive it
for a while before I build another motor. My short block is a stock
65 HP A14 from a 81 210. I am using an A12 head that is close to
stock and a short 2 1/2 inch header and exhaust.

The car looks a but rough and is in need of paint. It has a few rust
spots but no rust holes. I put an older left fender on it from the
1200 I got from Peter Zekert last year, it matches the paint, burnt
orange. I will start sanding the rust spots today and using sandable
primer to smooth them out.

DIMLIGHTS, what kind of rear end do you have in your 1200 that you
are putting the flares onto? I noticed the disc brakes on the rear,
cool. I have a 1983 MAZDA RX7 LSD rear that I have to weld the 1200
mounting hardware onto before I can out it in. It has about a 3.7
gear, I am not sure of the ratio yet because I haven't taken it apart
yet to look at the insides. It will be next year before I put it in.

I am still in East Tennessee. I will be leaving here next week for
Florida first, I think. My plans are non-existant right now, I just
know that I do not want to be here anymore for a while.

That's about all for today. Be happy everytime you pass by a gas
station, LOL.

Mareo

To all of those who can remember I sold my little blue 1200 coupe.
Happy to say the new owner is enjoying it and has already taken it to
Southport on the Gold Coast, and he lives 15 minutes away.

It was good while I owned the car but now I don't and so I will look
for another hobby when time permits. I guess I will need to now join
the "I used to have a datsun 1200" club.

So long Glenn

Jaime,

This message really got my attention. I Share the same feeling,
Yahoo is falling. Not only in groups, in every service they
provided. I cannot download anymore my email to my personal email
client like outlook or Eudora, I have to pay now for it. Yahoo
briefcase, a place where I had my files, is gone, I can only have
pictures there now, this advertizing mess with windows popups and
huge banners. If they incresed publicity isnt enougf? Why now I have
to pay for services that I had free. Not the way to do it.

But the datsun 1200 community will not fall with it! We have a new
living site at http://www.datsun1200.com , the commutity is there.
30-50 vititors per day.

Login with your yahoo ID "jaimepedro" and password is "datsun1200",
change the pass after you login in edit profile/account, you will
keep you membership since 2001 and 112 posts

Have a nice day, free of advertizment.

Pedro



--- In datsun1200@y..., jaimecidpedro <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>   All this mess created by yahoo has no remedy. The great fun and
> communication we all were enjoying is gone. Lots of former members
> are not around,and it is dificult to establish communication. This
> club,as well as others like the 210,have been irreparably being
> damaged by the unilaterall actions from the yahoo "experts",which
in
> fact are a bunch of dorks! The whole world is watching how
ridicule
> and inneficient,and above all,selfish and bratty this people are.
> They clame it is their right to manage the clubs the way they see
> fit,but they have a responsability towards people when engaging in
> mass communicatiopn,and beyond that,their yahoo site is only as
good
> as the number of visitors the yahoo site receives,without us,yahoo
is
> nothing,no visitors,no revenue from ads and the like. This
> stupid "groups" thing is the biggest flaw I have seen in the
internet
> world,I wonder who is behind this,if he has not gotten fired
already.
>     As for myself,I do not use this clubs anymore,in part for the
> dificulty in using them,the inefficiency of the system,and for the
> long list of fallen members lost in this "groups" move,the
feedback
> and info available before is nowhere to be found,sorry  guys,but
it
> seems the flavor is not in anymore.
>     I am looking into other good places ,for example,OZ dat,in
> Australia. Also Datsun world,any other place I can find,I feel
Yahoo
> just run over all of us with a great deal of disrespect. Jaime

All this mess created by yahoo has no remedy. The great fun and
communication we all were enjoying is gone. Lots of former members
are not around,and it is dificult to establish communication. This
club,as well as others like the 210,have been irreparably being
damaged by the unilaterall actions from the yahoo "experts",which in
fact are a bunch of dorks! The whole world is watching how ridicule
and inneficient,and above all,selfish and bratty this people are.
They clame it is their right to manage the clubs the way they see
fit,but they have a responsability towards people when engaging in
mass communicatiopn,and beyond that,their yahoo site is only as good
as the number of visitors the yahoo site receives,without us,yahoo is
nothing,no visitors,no revenue from ads and the like. This
stupid "groups" thing is the biggest flaw I have seen in the internet
world,I wonder who is behind this,if he has not gotten fired already.
     As for myself,I do not use this clubs anymore,in part for the
dificulty in using them,the inefficiency of the system,and for the
long list of fallen members lost in this "groups" move,the feedback
and info available before is nowhere to be found,sorry  guys,but it
seems the flavor is not in anymore.
     I am looking into other good places ,for example,OZ dat,in
Australia. Also Datsun world,any other place I can find,I feel Yahoo
just run over all of us with a great deal of disrespect. Jaime

--- In datsun1200@y..., ddgonzal <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> It appears that netcabo.pt is not routing packets to 213.22.15.82.
> Either it or the next server is having problems.
>
> I haven't noticed any DNS problems; it always resolves to the
> correct IP. The message is:
>
>    Cannot find server or DNS Error
>
> Since the DNS is not the problem, the problem must be trying to find
> the server. This is what the trace route shows too ... the hops stop
> at netcabo.pt ... the routing stops there, and we cannot get to
> 213.22.15.82.

Could be, but I can't do a traceroute either, it ends like this:

12  213.13.138.250 (213.13.138.250)  73.589 ms  3349.92 ms  7.662 ms
13  srp-3-0.cr01pc02.netcabo.net (212.113.172.1)  7.241 ms  7.547 ms
7.21 ms
14  a212-113-172-55.netcabo.pt (212.113.172.55)  7.586 ms  7.654 ms
7.075 ms
15  * * *
16  * * *

And the site works.
It's the same from all the places I tested it. I will check my
firewall rules to remember what I'm blocking.

daniel

It appears that netcabo.pt is not routing packets to 213.22.15.82.
Either it or the next server is having problems.

I haven't noticed any DNS problems; it always resolves to the
correct IP. The message is:

    Cannot find server or DNS Error

Since the DNS is not the problem, the problem must be trying to find
the server. This is what the trace route shows too ... the hops stop
at netcabo.pt ... the routing stops there, and we cannot get to
213.22.15.82.

--- In datsun1200@y..., ddgonzal <no_reply@y...> wrote:

Hi,

  Some time works some time it doesnt, are the worst kind of problems :(

  I went to  http://www.tracert.com/cgi-bin/trace.pl and tried some US
sites and all resolved datsun1200.com to 213.22.15.82.
  I will try some for some days before I start buging my DNS provider.

  But 213.22.15.82 must work, no DNS will help if that fails.

  does 213.22.15.82 keeps on failing??

daniel

> Let's not give up on the new club just yet; if we stay together we
> have more power.
>
> I also have been having problems accessing datsun1200.com more days
> than not. This has been going on for a couple of weeks. I'm sure
> some people are getting in, however Daniel there is a real problem
> affecting us -- and it's not my computer or my browser or my ISP.
> Perhaps it is working better for users in Portugal or Europe.
>
> I have tested using two different ISPs at home. Once I tried an
> external DNS lookup service, which does a traceroute from various
> continents -- all timed out. Further, I try at work over T3 lines.
>
> I either get in, or more often get:
>
>    Cannot find server or DNS Error
>
> The http://213.22.15.82 doesn't work either. Ping always resolve to
> some IP address. Sometimes ping returns results, sometimes times
> out. The Web site rarely comes up.
>
> >  But let's try some thing, can you see this page?
> >
> >  http://213.22.15.82
> >  Were are connecting from?
> >  Were are you connected to (ISP)?
> >  Browser, OS...?
> >
> > mail me at danielblues [at] yahoo [dot] com
> >
> > daniel

I noticed these during my usual searches.

3/20/2002
Clackamas, Or (Portland)
Blue coupe on eBay Motors.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=1814624242

3/21/2002
Portland, OR  USA
1972 DATSUN 1200 coupe, rebuilt 1500 with cam, 5spd, lowered, new
exhaust, brakes, racing green, very fast! $1,5,00/OBO, 503-284-5502

Date posted: Mon Mar 18 2002
San Francisco area
1200 coupe for sale, all stock 4spd. car. Blew a head gasket 15
years ago, been sitting ever since. Cracked windshield, a few dents,
a few rust spots, otherwise straight. Clean title. Original
everything, including paint, dark green. Would make a fun autocross
or rally project car. Make any reasonable offer, tow it away. ANY
offer considered, or trades? Parts? E-mail me....
Contact: Marc Phone: 408-202-3978 E-Mail: carguy26@...
Location: bay area, California

Posted: 17-Mar-02
Florida
Datsun 1200 Fastback
Mazda Rotary: Cars for sale
Luis Torres,   Orlando, FL   [ email: torres69@... ]
This car is all original, one owner & title
if you are serious to buy it email me. photos available $2,500

San Antonio, Texas
Datsun 1200
Mazda Rotary: Cars for sale
Victor Lopez,   Ft Sam Houston, TX   ph. 210-826-8931   [ email:
musicxpress@... ]
1972 Datsun 1200 sedan, 13B, holley, header, monster tach, line
lock, gages, cage, 462 rear, fuel cel, title; email for pics;
$4000.00 negotiable; delivery available; 210-473-0302

Yes, the club should stay together. Let's not give up on the new
site yet. I'm impressed with the new site and new features. Thanks
you Daniel and Pedro and the other founders.

I'm glad message view options are on the TODO list.

If we visit the new site regulary, the "new messages" list on the
home page is helpful. However, ensuring we don't miss a message is
difficult with so many forums. An optional e-mail is one way to
manage this. Another way is to have a view that lists all messages
in order of date (not listed by thread). This could be per-forum or
better yet, show messages from all forums. Again, this would be an
optional way of looking at the messages.

Maybe the new site is perfect for many, but apparently there are
some of us who find it cumbersome to keep up with. Daniel, I think
either of these would be a huge usability and satisfaction win for
those of us who have different usage patterns.

Let's not give up on the new club just yet; if we stay together we
have more power.

I also have been having problems accessing datsun1200.com more days
than not. This has been going on for a couple of weeks. I'm sure
some people are getting in, however Daniel there is a real problem
affecting us -- and it's not my computer or my browser or my ISP.
Perhaps it is working better for users in Portugal or Europe.

I have tested using two different ISPs at home. Once I tried an
external DNS lookup service, which does a traceroute from various
continents -- all timed out. Further, I try at work over T3 lines.

I either get in, or more often get:

    Cannot find server or DNS Error

The http://213.22.15.82 doesn't work either. Ping always resolve to
some IP address. Sometimes ping returns results, sometimes times
out. The Web site rarely comes up.

>  But let's try some thing, can you see this page?
>
>  http://213.22.15.82
>  Were are connecting from?
>  Were are you connected to (ISP)?
>  Browser, OS...?
>
> mail me at danielblues [at] yahoo [dot] com
>
> daniel

i an interested in this last set of A14 pistonring STD, +0.50 mm.
Let me check my bore and i confirm tomorrow for make the deal

best regards

Datsunalex

Panamá

I have (2) sets of A12/13 piston rings at +0.50mm (+0.020 inch)
overbore for $20 per engine set.
I also have (4) sets of A14 rings. (1) set is STD. (2) sets are
+0.50mm (+0.020 inch) overbore and the last set is a combination of
STD, +0.50 mm.

Peter Zekert
105 Reading Ave,
Maryland Heights, MO 63043
peterzekert@...

My brother has a 1200 ute with an A12 engine. I gave him a weber
32/36 carb. I had in hand,but we need to now the proper air,main (1 &
2) and iddle jet sizes for the application. The truck has a brand new
made header,(extractor) and will use the weber 32/36 with manual
choke,later on we will add a street cam,but for now on,we need some
help with the proper jet sizes,main primary,secondary,primary
idle,secondary idle,and air jets. Any comments will be appreciated. I
have a 32/36 weber on a B210 with an A15 engine,the same jet sizes
probably will not work on the stock A12.
  Thanks.
  Jaime.

--- In datsun1200@y..., danielblues <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In datsun1200@y..., wubbits <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > I can't even get in to Datsun1200.com it always says
> > server down or I get a blank page..no problems with
> > any other website..tried for weeks  I give up...
>
> ... I will try to solve this with some private emails to you.
>
> daniel

(as the mail bounced back... a repost)

Hi,

  Well we had only one problem like this, it was due to
a portuguese ISP war. And it was solved with a free
proxy service.

  But let's try some thing, can you see this page?

  http://213.22.15.82
  Were are connecting from?
  Were are you connected to (ISP)?
  Browser, OS...?

mail me at danielblues [at] yahoo [dot] com

daniel

--- In datsun1200@y..., "D Earnshaw" <davgas@b...> wrote:
> Hi again

Hi,

>
> sorry to dissagree with you on that Daniel but the reality is that
the old club and its "mailing list" was far better than having to go
to a site that you cant always log into anyway,and secondly, the
abillity to see what people are up to with just checking your emails
and if you wanted to follow somthing up then checking back to the
site was for me was a far better option.
> The quicker you get the mailing happening the better!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  Ok, it's your opinion, and I respect it. It's not our top priority
for now but it was added to the TODO list.
  As for the "you cant always log into anyway" part, the site was down
13/3/2002 due to a DNS error and we had some problems with one member
at the week-ends and some other minor ones. We have ~30 visitors a
day since 18/2 and for the most part it seams to go ok.
  Hope you can live with that for a while, the yahoo club didn't had
that feature  either for a long time, and the club has to stay
together.

daniel

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: danielblues
>   To: datsun1200@y...
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:01 PM
>   Subject: [Datsun 1200] Re: Help required in getting response from
Nismoparts.safeshopper
>
>
>   >
>   > when the is the new 1200 club going to be able to email all of
the
>   > posts like the old yahoo club????????????????
>   > it was the best way of keeping in touch with what people are
up  to
>   > but your new  club requires you to go to the page to see whats
been
>   > posted.
>   >
>   > Dave
>
>   Hi,
>
>   Sorry to desagree, but the best way to keep in toutch is login in
at
>   the club, read your personal messages, read the news, comment the
>   news, vote in the pools, comment the pools, read the forum, post
at
>   the forum, check out the new links, rank the new links, submit
the new
>   links... and search for datto info in the hole club.
>   More a club and less of a mailing list. We are thinking of having
>   mail notification for all messages and maybe the rest later, but
our
>   main goal now is getting a gallery runnig.
>
>   daniel
>   http://datsun1200.com
>

1978 datsun 260c, auto, ps, lowered, wof and rego, good interior,
body in fairly good nick, metallic redish brown, car located in New
Zealand, $1000 ono

Matt

Hi again

sorry to dissagree with you on that Daniel but the reality is that the old club
and its "mailing list" was far better than having to go to a site that you cant
always log into anyway,and secondly, the abillity to see what people are up to
with just checking your emails and if you wanted to follow somthing up then
checking back to the site was for me was a far better option.
The quicker you get the mailing happening the better!!!!!!!!!!!!.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: danielblues
   To: datsun1200@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:01 PM
   Subject: [Datsun 1200] Re: Help required in getting response from
Nismoparts.safeshopper


   >
   > when the is the new 1200 club going to be able to email all of the
   > posts like the old yahoo club????????????????
   > it was the best way of keeping in touch with what people are up  to
   > but your new  club requires you to go to the page to see whats been
   > posted.
   >
   > Dave

   Hi,

   Sorry to desagree, but the best way to keep in toutch is login in at
   the club, read your personal messages, read the news, comment the
   news, vote in the pools, comment the pools, read the forum, post at
   the forum, check out the new links, rank the new links, submit the new
   links... and search for datto info in the hole club.
   More a club and less of a mailing list. We are thinking of having
   mail notification for all messages and maybe the rest later, but our
   main goal now is getting a gallery runnig.

   daniel
   http://datsun1200.com



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--- In datsun1200@y..., wubbits <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I can't even get in to Datsun1200.com it always says
> server down or I get a blank page..no problems with
> any other website..tried for weeks  I give up...

... I will try to solve this with some private emails to you.

daniel

I can't even get in to Datsun1200.com it always says
server down or I get a blank page..no problems with
any other website..tried for weeks  I give up...

>
> when the is the new 1200 club going to be able to email all of the
> posts like the old yahoo club????????????????
> it was the best way of keeping in touch with what people are up  to
> but your new  club requires you to go to the page to see whats been
> posted.
>
> Dave

Hi,

  Sorry to desagree, but the best way to keep in toutch is login in at
the club, read your personal messages, read the news, comment the
news, vote in the pools, comment the pools, read the forum, post at
the forum, check out the new links, rank the new links, submit the new
links... and search for datto info in the hole club.
  More a club and less of a mailing list. We are thinking of having
mail notification for all messages and maybe the rest later, but our
main goal now is getting a gallery runnig.

daniel
http://datsun1200.com

--- In datsun1200@y..., datsunalex <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> hi guys ! i need help !
> how i can know or what i gonna do for know i type or number of
piston
> rings i have to use in my A14.
>
> i hope your understand me !!! soory mu bad english !

Hi,

Try to post your message in the new club at http://www.datsun1200.com

just go to main forum and click new topic

See section
http://datsun1200.com/modules/sections/index.php?
op=viewarticle&artid=3

Login in the new club with your yahoo user name, pass
is "datsun1200", change it after you log in in "edit Profile"

Keep it sideways

Pedro

--- In datsun1200@y..., pfbranco <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In datsun1200@y..., dworks100 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > I ordered parts from them last year and sent money. Till date
I've
> > only received a catalogue (after alot of follow-up) and no parts.
> > Attempts to reach them have been unsuccessful and they do not
reply
> > to my e-mails. If they do not have the parts I require, they
should
> > send my money back!
> >
> > I am posting this message as a last resort, hoping that Datto
> members
> > more familiar with this company can help.
> >
>
> You should try to post this at the new club in
> http://www.datsun1200.com
>
> Datsun 1200 community is moving to there, free of advertize banners
> and we dont sell pictures :)
>
> Check it out
>
> Pedro Branco

when the is the new 1200 club going to be able to email all of the
posts like the old yahoo club????????????????
it was the best way of keeping in touch with what people are up  to
but your new  club requires you to go to the page to see whats been
posted.

Dave
> Club founder
>
>
>
> > Regards
> > dworks
> > Racing B110 coupes