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> Interesting, John. Wonder why they're not marketed as BBK?
> Whatever. Are they made in the US? Just trying to figure
> out why they're $209 when FRPP sell for $300 or more. Maybe
> I'm just looking in the wrong place, but I thought I was
> finding ceramic FRPP for around $350.

The price bump for the FRPPs is for their stainless steel construction,
cheaper headers are usually built from mild steel tubing.







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I've got MAC shorty headers, which are warped & rusting. I'm thinking of replacing them, any recommendations? I'm thinking of going with BBK equal length...
blkfox80
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Jun 7, 2009
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... I've never heard anyone complain about the BBK. The one piece flange won't warp like the MAC's. If you compare how the pipes' curve it sure looks like the...
Sean
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Jun 8, 2009
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The only pair of Macs I ever had were JUNK. Nothing is truer than you get what you pay for when it comes to Mac products. I have BBK's now and was a bit...
John Stephenson
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Jun 8, 2009
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From: jdsgallops@... The Hooker Shorties I had a long time ago were by far the best header I ever bought. ... I have been running Hooker Super...
Puter ami
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Jun 8, 2009
12:40 pm

... the ceramic coating. Will they flow any better than MAC? I also looked at the Pypes, which are stainless steel. But those are unequal length. * They are...
Chris Slaw
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Jun 8, 2009
11:00 am

I'm with Chris on the equal lengths. VERY minor gains and not worth all the other hassles that comes along w/ that choice. My vote would be for the FRPP...
Sean MELDRUM
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Jun 8, 2009
12:49 pm

... As many of the long-time members are all too aware, I made something of a fetish about headers a few years ago after learning quite a lot from a couple of...
Dennis Forcier
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Jun 8, 2009
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Dennis Forcier wrote ... <snippage> There is iron in your words of headers! I agree with your assessment of Bassani 100%, very good stuff. And also, crappy...
Chris Slaw
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Jun 8, 2009
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... Finally! A convert! (I had never seen a convert.) Praise the god of suckage! First, a correction. For tube diameter I meant 1+5/8", not 5/8". Second,...
Dennis Forcier
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Jun 9, 2009
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... Last I checked, $240 for unfinished P50s, $300 for ceramic P51s, at CJ Pony Parts. On my new 306 with X303 heads, now running ceramic Ford P51s, picked...
Chris Slaw
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Jun 9, 2009
8:27 pm

OK, some more detail. The motor has 9.9:1 compression, Crane Cam PN 449601 (.563/.542), GT40 heads, Performer RPM intake, Quik Fuel 650 vs carb, true duals...
Jeremy Martin
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Jun 9, 2009
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Duration is always the better number to give for cam specs. Lift is much less important. Can get a good idea from the ET #'s and everything else though....
Sean MELDRUM
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Jun 9, 2009
12:28 pm

Sean that would be a trick flow stage 2 cam.(I am surprised no one on the list has brought up the closing of Crane). That said That HP seems very low to me....
John Stephenson
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Jun 9, 2009
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So something like 224/232 range? Numbers look spot on to me. My GT40P, Xcelerator intake, 650dp, Comp XE274 flat tappet put 275 to the tires (albiet with...
Sean MELDRUM
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Jun 9, 2009
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I think if you go back in the archives Sean you will see that you did say that you noticed a bit of lowend loss in torque when you switched to the shorties....
John Stephenson
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Jun 9, 2009
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Your memory is better than mine my friend! LOL ... This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). The information contained...
Sean MELDRUM
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Jun 9, 2009
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... You just did. :^P What's weird is seeing all the Crane stuff still in catalogs, you'd think their stuff would start to sell out by now... must be a ...
Chris Slaw
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I agree Chris, I am surprised to see the Crane stuffed advertised so heavily still. IMO loosing Crane was not a big deal though, at least for cams, as their...
John Stephenson
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Jun 9, 2009
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You might remember discussions we had John about me following trends of IVO/IVC events for P head combos. IVC might the most important of the 4 (been awhile...
Sean MELDRUM
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Jun 9, 2009
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Oh yes Sean I remember that. You found the numbers fell into the 40-45* range. I just had to look at new cam versus old cam. Interestingly there is only about...
John Stephenson
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... I have been using Performance Trends Engine Analyzer 3.0 since 1998, it is installed on my old Win2k machine here at the orifice. I haven't run it for the ...
Chris Slaw
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Jun 9, 2009
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I KNEW someone would bring that up. Just never memorized those numbers! Jeremy ... From: Sean MELDRUM To: carbedMustang@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June...
Jeremy Martin
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Jun 9, 2009
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OK, I googled the pn and the specs that I found were 224/232. I know that they sometimes changed the specs for a specific pn, and could have done so on this....
Jeremy Martin
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Jun 9, 2009
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You're not bad off w/ the extra lift. Most of the flow numbers I've seen on the iron '40s (of course I dealt w/ mostly P heads) doesn't show them losing flow....
Sean MELDRUM
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Jun 9, 2009
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Summit lists the FRPP stainless and coated at $248 & $360 respectively. ... From: Dennis Forcier To: carbedMustang@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009...
Jeremy Martin
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Jun 9, 2009
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Sean, Have you heard of Brothers Performance? Saw them on ebay, ceramic shorties are 209. Not bad compared to FRPP, but I've got no idea about the quality. ...
Jeremy Martin
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Jun 26, 2009
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Brothers performance = BBK   95 Cobra/2006 HHR Tension and conflict are necessary ingredients of a successful organization.--Bob Lutz ...
John Stephenson
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Brothers is BBK, no? ================================= Sean Meldrum Senior Designer Valeo Interior Controls - Switches & Detection Systems 150 Stephenson Hwy,...
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Jun 26, 2009
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Interesting, John. Wonder why they're not marketed as BBK? Whatever. Are they made in the US? Just trying to figure out why they're $209 when FRPP sell for...
Jeremy Martin
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Jun 26, 2009
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... The price bump for the FRPPs is for their stainless steel construction, cheaper headers are usually built from mild steel tubing....
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