--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "Bob H." <Z-guy@e...> wrote:
> --- roy wrote:
> > Does anyone know if the tanks are vented togeather
> > or separately? Does anyone know how the vent lines
> > are run?
> --------------
>
> Roy, hopefully someone with a '99 or '00 already knows
> the answer and will step up to help out.  If not there
> is a resource you might not know about.
>
> BTW, welcome to the forum!  Suggestions for improvement
> will be appreciated.
>
> Bob H.

Bob H.,

How about a really "dumb" question from a newbie?

Wouldn't Roy's question be answered by peeking on the roof to see how
many vents are there?

If there is only one vent, they would be combined and if there are 2
it stands to reason that they are not.  I cannot think of a reason to
combine the vents and still cut the roof for a second vent, causing
another possible source for leaks.

For the "Suggestions for improvement": How about, if we should be
changing the "subject" of the reply when you do in fact change the
subject? As I am guilty of not doing so on the Bounder Group and
really should do so here.  It does make searches possible. Something I
had not realized until recently.

Raider
4/19
MOB BOA 4820

To add, I have MS's Streets & Trips 2002 and 2003, yet, even though
we've lived on the street we're on since '01, it's *still* not
included on their maps.  Go figure.

Oh, and if you want Canada, be prepared, at least for a GPS-based
mapping program, to shell out some $'s if it's Garmin-related.  I
started looking for my borderline ancient GPS III+, but blew it off
when I saw pricing in the high two-digit range for SW which I'm
gonna use every other year, if I'm lucky.

Kelly
'99 39Z

--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "Bob H." <Z-guy@e...> wrote:
> --- david wrote:
> > ... brand i bought was Delorme street guide, but there
> > are other brands i,m told.
> ----------------
> All the mapping programs for PC's have some inaccuracies
> -- or missing roads.  Are you using Street Atlas 2004?
> If so, a road that you use all the time and want shown
> can be added by you.  If you are not seeing minor roads,
> perhaps you need to select them in the Map Options menu
> -- and then zoom in a little more when you are traveling.
>
> Bob H.

I have had many requests for the ICC circuit that appeared
in the FMCA magazine.  I placed it in the Files Section of
this forum so you can view (or download) at any time.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bounder_diesel/files/

Bob H.

--- david wrote:
> ... brand i bought was Delorme street guide, but there
> are other brands i,m told.
----------------
All the mapping programs for PC's have some inaccuracies
-- or missing roads.  Are you using Street Atlas 2004?
If so, a road that you use all the time and want shown
can be added by you.  If you are not seeing minor roads,
perhaps you need to select them in the Map Options menu
-- and then zoom in a little more when you are traveling.

Bob H.

--- roy wrote:
> Does anyone know if the tanks are vented togeather
> or separately? Does anyone know how the vent lines
> are run?
--------------

Roy, hopefully someone with a '99 or '00 already knows
the answer and will step up to help out.  If not there
is a resource you might not know about.  If you call
Owner Relations with your FIN and request both coach
wiring schematics and plumbing/vent sheets for your
Bounder, Fleetwood will send them to you at no charge.
I did this for both my '91 several years ago and my '04
this year.  Also, chassis electrical schematics are
available from Freightliner at no cost.  It's a good
idea to order a set now so you will have them when you
need them.  Just yesterday I was looking over the chassis
electrical, but I had to put my project on hold until I
can find my magnifying glass.  There are MANY wires and
connections on the sheets.

BTW, welcome to the forum!  Suggestions for improvement
will be appreciated.

Bob H.

I have 2000 39z Freightliner/ISB and have a holding tank venting issue.
Does anyone know if the tanks are vented togeather or separately?
Does anyone know how the vent lines are run?
Does anyone know the material used in the venting, like flex hose that
might have cracked?


thanks
roy

have just purchased a 93 32hd and had to do a complete
refit of mast item.

just purchased from fry's electronices a gps system
for my lap top for under $200.00. have used in when
traveling by car and with rental cars.  good points
are the large screen great color easy to read maps.
bad point it dose not seem to have all the
streets(small ones). the brand i bought was Delorme
street guide, but there are other brands i,m told.
dave



=====
david erickson & karen berdine
po box 461
mesa, az 85211-0461
480 227-3426

--- Diane wrote:
> Major problem so far is the drawers won't stay
> latched, empty or full, during travel.
----------------
This seems to be a very common problem with the '04s
and '05s.  In 40 miles of relatively smooth roads I
can open up every drawer in our Bounder all the way -
except for the dinnete-seat drawers which only get
half way because they are loaded so heavy.  The dealer
was not at all surprised that we were having problems
and they ordered heavy duty replacement latches for
installation throughout the coach.  Maybe you should
ask your dealer if changing to heavier latches is the
solution to your problem.  The adjustment you were
talking about is possible (the Fleetwood team did ours
to max at FMCA Albuquerque) but it is still not enough.

I am waiting for those fuel figures.  I really hope the
Cats get decent mileage.

Bob H.

At 09:10 PM 7/6/2004, you wrote:
>Diane, thinking about Roger's "N" reminded me that yours
>should be off the line soon.  Do you have it yet, and
>if so any problems with the ride on yours?  How about
>keeping track of the fuel so we can have an actual report
>rather than test bed results?  Is yours a Cummins or a Cat?

Hi, Bob! Gee, been thinking of you too! :))
Yes, we have it, sort of, and I also was JUST thinking that I'd write in when we
had figures to share. (hopefully to crow about?) <<GG>> Isn't it just wonderful
how diesel prices have  edged up there...... We have the Cat. And so far have
used 1/2 a tank of fuel going back and forth to the Dealers and Service Dept.
The RIDE and the DRIVING is GREAT and SMOOTH so somebody got something
right, but we need to get certain bugs out before we can go anywhere.
The A/C quit...guess there were loose wires all over the coach from what we
were told. It came thru w/o the in-motion Sat TV so had to be put in after the
fact and IT isn't working right. The Dealer screwed up and didn't order it.
(So that's going to cost them fuel reimbursement for all the aggravation and
trips, already agreed on.)

Major problem so far is the drawers won't stay latched, empty or full, during
travel.
(between here and the Dealer's!)
Very disconcerting. And startling! So, hopefully we'll get it back Thurs. with
every-
thing in working order. Has anyone else had that problem?

Also, word of caution out there concerning Service Departments. We got told
that Fleetwood would NOT OK any design changes in the latches. SO. WE called
Fleetwood's Customer Service and there was NO record of any call to them!
I guess FW then called the Service Dept. and the tech admitted he had NOT
called.
So he OPUTRIGHT LIED to us. Customer Service informed us about his admission, so
now I'll be very vigilant when we have to deal with that particular tech. It's
to FW's advantage to keep accurate records on our coaches when they're under
warranty, so utilize Customer Service if you run into any difficulties.

FW also told my husband about an adjustment that can be made to the drawers
and to tell the Service Dept. to call FW if there was any problem. (oh, well.)
When we brought it back Mon. we dealt with a tech who had an attitude re the
drawers and the latches.
He ticked me off, just a tad.... but decided to respond differently after *I*
developed an attitude of my own and told him through clenched teeth that
"I want it FIXED!"  It'll be a while before I lose my leeriness with those guys.
(This just must not be our year for Service Techs?  <G>)

As an aside, We did get a Garmin (2620) GPS that seems to work OK but haven't
been anywhere yet to really test its mettle. (Tried, but could NOT get the
DeLorme
to work.)


>I guess you new owners know about the Silverleaf VMSpc that
>works with your notebook computer, right?

Nope ~ but I will check it out. And give the info to The Pilot.
The bulging briefcase has been overwhelming and have not yet put a dent
in all the material.

>It is super easy to connect to your Bounder because it uses the diagnostic
socket that is already dangling by the steering column.
>Those of us who have it probably wouldn't be without it.
>Check it out at <http://www.simply-smarter.com>http://www.simply-smarter.com  
If you
>decide to get it email Jim Murray james31@...
>and you can save about $75. (I am NOT on commission. <g>)
>
>Bob H.

Thanks for the info, Bob.  I'll keep you posted on mileage once we have figures.
I'm kind of anxious to see myself.

Diane/Las Vegas
'05 Diesel 38N
'04 Vue Toad



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--- Jim  wrote:
> Thanks for starting this group.  I have been "bitten"
> by the "Not in this group" comment to me privately
> and in public....
---------------

Welcome to the group, Jim.  I know what you mean about
being "bitten", but last night when I was publicly
criticized for "trying to scare" people when I asked if
anyone had experienced a problem city engine brake laws,
it was just too much for me.  BUT, list owners are free
to run their forums as they wish and some no-nonsense
folks might actually prefer that type of forum. I wish
Barbara the best and she is certainly welcome to
contribute her outstanding technical knowledge here --
but don't hold your breath waiting. <g>

Bob H.

To all,

Kelly and I were both involved with Honda ST1100s.  V-4, 1100 cc
sport
touring motorcycle.  I put 130K on two of them, but during that time
I "farkled" them grandly.  It was a term that someone coined on our
ST1100 list.   I like it and it sounds better that "I played with"
or "I was toying with".   We are more serious about our toys, so if
you hear that term from Kelly or I, you will know what we are talking
about and feel free to use it yourselves.

--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "Kelly B" <mckellyb@j...>
wrote:
> Thanks, Bob.  Oh, 'tinkering' is "farkled" in motorcycle terms,
which
> is what I think in, so be warned.  ;-)  Hence my desire for more
fuel
> capacity. Just can't help but think in being able to go say, 1500
> miles before having to get Diesel.
>
> I
> ask 'cause I know a guy who rides the same bike I used to, and now
> has a Bounder 36S, and he's good folk. Jim Alexander, in case
you're
> wondering.
>

Thanks to Kelly, I am here now.

>
> One last tech thing, if you need a universal remote control for a
Go-
> Video DVD/VCR machine, model number 4250, FWIW, I finally found one
> which works. Third time was the charm, it turns out.
>

Too funny, I just picked up on of the Go Video DVD / VCR recorder
combo units that I am interesting in putting in the Bounder.  Farkle,
Farkle.  :-)


> I was thinking truck and
> 5-er before the Bounder, and I'm glad we didn't go that path.
>

I was looking at a truck and a 5-er too and glad I did not go that
way.

Jim Alexander
2000 36S Diesel
2000 Tracker toad
BU 9490 / BOA 4906

Bob,

Thanks for starting this group.  I have been "bitten" by the "Not in
this group" comment to me privately and in public, and what I had
posted was not too far away from Diesel Bounders, but might have
included Gas Bounders or even SOB.  But I am glad to see a group
where there will be a little more freedom.

Kelly,

Thanks for the invite to this group.

Jim Alexander
2000 36S Diesel
2000 Chevy Tracker toad
BU 9490
BOA 4906

Boondocking tonight and wife started to wash a load of clothes. Water
pump sort of stopped (couldn't' hear it running) but kept putting out
some water (not much). I checked fuse - fine. Checked for leaks at
pump, under coach, in general - fine. Cannot hear it running at all.
Pump was hot.

On board water shows 1/4 (strong light). Coach level.

Need suggestions.

Thanks.

Ron Jones
"Dr. J"  Texas
'02 39R
Co-author (with Bob Lowe) of  "All the Stuff You Need to Know About RVing."
Available from RonJon Publishing, Inc.  800-262-3060

Diane, thinking about Roger's "N" reminded me that yours
should be off the line soon.  Do you have it yet, and
if so any problems with the ride on yours?  How about
keeping track of the fuel so we can have an actual report
rather than test bed results?  Is yours a Cummins or a Cat?

I guess you new owners know about the Silverleaf VMSpc that
works with your notebook computer, right?  It is super easy
to connect to your Bounder because it uses the diagnostic
socket that is already dangling by the steering column.
Those of us who have it probably wouldn't be without it.
Check it out at http://www.simply-smarter.com   If you
decide to get it email Jim Murray james31@...
and you can save about $75. (I am NOT on commission. <g>)

Bob H.

Good going on the diesel, IMHO. I'd sworn to stay away from gas-
engined ones, given as 15K a year, for us, is a slow
year...hopefully, and I'd have needed a loan for gasoline, otherwise.

You should really like the different engine/transmission combo, if
you can overlook the new machine. <g>

Kelly

--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "rnphill" <rnphill@y...>
wrote:
> Just traded in my 97 gas bounder for an '05 bounder diesel 38N.
Hope to learn a lot from the group since this is our first diesel.
Thanks for the new group. Roger

--- Roger wrote:
> Just traded in my 97 gas bounder for an '05 bounder
> diesel 38N.
----------------

Great Bounder, Roger!  And welcome to the group.  When
we purchased our "Z" Tom Johnson also had an "N" on
the lot.  We discussed more slides vs fewer slides and
because we are on the road a lot, in Rest Areas and
Wally-Worlds, we settled on the one slide.  I imagine
with all the slides you have it is like living in a
grand ballroom compared to the '97.  How about a user
report after you have been in it for a while?  One thing
I am curious about is the fuel mileage, and whether you
have a Cummins or a Cat.

You have many of us concerned about the rough ride you
first reported.  It shouldn't be like that, so something
was/is wrong with the chassis setup.  It sounded to me
like your air bags weren't inflating and you were riding
around with no suspension at all.  Did you get it solved?

Bob H.

Just traded in my 97 gas bounder for an '05 bounder diesel 38N. Hope
to learn a lot from the group since this is our first diesel. Thanks
for the new group. Roger

--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "Bob H." <Z-guy@e...> wrote:
> As you can probably tell, I would like to see a friendly,
> open forum rather than a strict, iron-handed one where
> your head gets lopped off if you stray a bit from pure
> technical stuff.  I figure we are adults, able to exercise
> "free speech" as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

[sarcasm 'on']

Gasp, really?! Wow, imagine that, people being considered 'adults'!
Well, adults who can think for themselves. Is this really possible?

[sarcasm 'off']

> Yes, I have a few issues with my '04, but so do million-
> dollar Prevost owners.

Ah, but see, here, we're not the type who will just run "to the
dealer", or whatever, when something breaks. Granted, I'm not about
to rebuild the Allison, roadside, but I'd not hesitate to dig into
something else, though I'd like to limit it.

Granted, if I owned a Prevost, I'd still dig into it, though I'd
hope to not have to, and while under any type of warranty, I'd
immediately go to the dealer when something gave up, or was badly
engineered/designed/executed...much like our windshield openings.

Still amazes me how the gensets on those giant, high-$ machines look
more like the entire engine in my wife's '81 Mercedes 240D. Couldn't
kill that car...  Sorry, I digress.

> I'd really like to see photos of Bounders and improvements
> done to them posted in the Photo Section.  It would be more
> organized if we each make our own folder.

I'll work on what I've got, at least taking pictures of 'it', which
honestly, isn't much. Not yet, at least. I can give two hearty
thumbs up to the new A/C covers I put on a few months back. The OEM
ones were essentially toast. I don't remember what kind they are,
but I need to go by the storage lot, anyway, and will look.

Oh, wait, before I forget, there's a guy who makes an under-chassis
spare tire/wheel carrier, which uses a 12V lifting motor, so you
don't have to do much to get the 200+ lb. combo up/down from under
the machine. There is *plenty* of room for it to live under there.
I'll look to see what I have, and post. I've seen where a guy has a
Word doc which has details, down to what *wheels* to put on a
carrier, so you don't even have to crawl around, underneath. I'm
almost certain that's on the dieselbounder list page.

> And I'm going to try for shorter posts -- honest.<g>  This
> post appears to have many "I want this or that", but this is
> simply to get us started until you let me know what YOU want.

Y'know, short posts, to me, leave a lot to be desired, typically
detail. Plus, being as I type fast enough to frighten myself, on
occasion...  I've been on the phone, while typing, and I'm far from
gentle, so it's audible, and I've had people say, "are you typing?"
When I answer 'yes', they're typically amazed, though I have to
admit, the 'backspace' key is my good bud.

Kelly
farkle-meister

--- the farkle specialist wrote:
> ... how is moderation of joining handled? I don't
> want to say to someone, "hey, there's a new Bounder
> Diesel group", only to look like an idiot when they
> either can't join, or it's not an 'accepted practice'.
--------------------------------

As you can probably tell, I would like to see a friendly,
open forum rather than a strict, iron-handed one where
your head gets lopped off if you stray a bit from pure
technical stuff.  I figure we are adults, able to exercise
"free speech" as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. I'm
hoping that folks will keep it somewhat aimed at RVing and
Bounder diesels, but WE should try to do that though good-
natured appeals rather than threats -- and through PRIVATE
email.  As long as people do not try to do "Individual
Emails" it is easy for them to skip over or ignore posts
they don't care to read.  In my view, the Individual Email
feature in any Yahoo forum is like volunteering for spam.<g>
Try the digest and I think you'll like it better.

I have not restricted who can join.  Some of the most valuable
help we can offer will be to people who do not yet have a
Bounder Diesel and are shopping for a DP. I would like to
show people Bounder Diesel friendship and courtesy even before
they write the big check -- while they are still deciding.
Yes, I have a few issues with my '04, but so do million-
dollar Prevost owners.

I did select the option that requires the first post to be
moderated unless I know the person from another forum.  I
am trying to cut down on spam and stop those who think it
is fun going from forum to forum grossing people out.  I'll
try to intercept any urban-legend-chain letters also.  I'm
hoping folks will resist the urge to send us something that
should go to 10 people on their list or they face 10 years
of bad luck.

There is no way (at least so far) to get a virus from this
forum because I asked the system to discard attachments.
Those who want to share files can upload them to the Files
Section instead of going the attachment route.  If anyone
thinks they got a virus from this forum, please send me a
private email rather than alarm the group until we can find
out what is going on.

I'd really like to see photos of Bounders and improvements
done to them posted in the Photo Section.  It would be more
organized if we each make our own folder.

And I'm going to try for shorter posts -- honest.<g>  This
post appears to have many "I want this or that", but this is
simply to get us started until you let me know what YOU want.

Bob H.

Thanks, Bob.  Oh, 'tinkering' is "farkled" in motorcycle terms, which
is what I think in, so be warned.  ;-)  Hence my desire for more fuel
capacity. Just can't help but think in being able to go say, 1500
miles before having to get Diesel.

I should ask, before I forget...again...how is moderation of joining
handled? I don't want to say to someone, "hey, there's a new Bounder
Diesel group", only to look like an idiot when they either can't
join, or it's not an 'accepted practice'. I'm on a Grand Vitara list
which requires, once we get enough folks, that you have *two*
references to join. Trying to keep garbage to an absolute minimum. I
ask 'cause I know a guy who rides the same bike I used to, and now
has a Bounder 36S, and he's good folk. Jim Alexander, in case you're
wondering.

Oh, I measured up the fuel tank, yesterday, and there ain't no way I
can get a larger OEM tank in there without having wheels on the
bottom of it for say, speed bumps. Fortunately, I found an online
converter which does cubic inches to gallons. Gotta love
the 'net...don't have to remember anything, to a large degree.

All the tech people here, *how* do you take the raised, carpeted
moldings off the bedroom floor?! I cannot find the screws which I've
had a Discovery owner send me pictures of when he had his apart. I've
gotta do this Link 1000 install before I lose what I have left of my
mind.

One last tech thing, if you need a universal remote control for a Go-
Video DVD/VCR machine, model number 4250, FWIW, I finally found one
which works. Third time was the charm, it turns out.

That wasn't the last thing. Yesterday, when putting the Bounder up
for a while, I passes a guy down the street who pulls a medium-sized
5-er, like 30 ft., with a gas GMC 3/4 ton pick-em-up. Asked him what
kinda MPG he gets, pulling, and he said "variable, but around 8".
Ouch. At the storage joint, another guy with a Duramax GMC pulling
about a 33 ft. 5-er said he gets about 11. So, at my 10.7, I'm
jumpin' for freakin' joy, as I don't have to drive a pickup, daily,
and if I need a burrito nuked, I don't have to stop to do it, just
ask my wife to go slap one in the microwave. I was thinking truck and
5-er before the Bounder, and I'm glad we didn't go that path.

Tip: don't try to pop popcorn, Orville Redenbacher at least, in the
convection nuker we have. Burned it enough to make the coach stink
for two solid days. Ack. Might have helped to have it up on the wire
tray thing, but I wasn't doing it, so I dunno what, if anything,
would have helped.


--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "Bob H." <Z-guy@e...> wrote:

> Welcome, Kelly. Glad to have whatever contributions
> you care to make: high tech, low tech, and no tech. <g>
> For those who have not been Kelly-ized yet, there is
> probably not much on his 99Z that he hasn't tinkered
> with. Even if he only lets us know when something
> doesn't work, at least we won't have to go find out for
> ourselves.
>
> Bob H.

--- Kelly wrote:
> Anyway, good to see the new group.  Let me be the
> first to contribute something I've recently learned...
> by looking at the *huge* wiring diagrams for this
> machine.  The solar panel on the front A/C unit is
> connected to the chassis batteries, not the house
> batteries, as has been stated, elsewhere.
---------------

Welcome, Kelly.  Glad to have whatever contributions
you care to make: high tech, low tech, and no tech. <g>
For those who have not been Kelly-ized yet, there is
probably not much on his 99Z that he hasn't tinkered
with.  Even if he only lets us know when something
doesn't work, at least we won't have to go find out for
ourselves.

Bob H.

I understand what you mean about other groups.

I've been in a couple which have spun off, and honestly, it seems
like an evolutionary kinda thing, to me.

Anyway, good to see the new group.  Let me be the first to contribute
something I've recently learned...by looking at the *huge* wiring
diagrams for this machine.  The solar panel on the front A/C unit is
connected to the chassis batteries, not the house batteries, as has
been stated, elsewhere.  This explains why the chassis batteries are
always 'fresh', even though they're OEM.

Oh, and I hooked up my new 'desulfator' on the '95 Intrepid I use as
my daily driver.  Battery couldn't fire the car up twice if it'd been
driven less than say, 8 miles.  Putting this device thingy on it,
with a trickle-charger, for the week we were outta town resolved it's
problems.  I can turn on the lights, push all four power window
switches, hit the hazards and the brakes, yet still, the starter
spins with vigor.  Before, I might have gotten a weak, "guh-
ruh....click...".

Kelly
'99 39Z
Just turned over 60K miles

Although we have not been overwhelmed with messages
yet (am I good at understatement, or what?), maybe
in the future that will change.  I don't want us
to lose people because of too much mail, so here is
an easy way to set your preferences:

To get a "digest" of messages rather than each individual
one, send an email (blank is fine) by clicking on this
address:

bounder_diesel-digest@yahoogroups.com

To stop emails altogether and simply read online, or if
you are going on the road w/o service, click on this address:

bounder_diesel-nomail@yahoogroups.com

Feel free to ask for help if you have difficulty with any
feature of this forum.  If I don't know the answer I will
search it out.

Bob H.

--- raider wrote:
> Thanks Bob H., for opening this site. Had thought
> of doing the same but was concerned about drawing
> enough interest for others to visit it, let alone
> to post questions and thoughts.
-----------------

Good to see you here, Raider.  Having a diesel is not
a requirement for being interested in them.  Asking
questions and getting opinions from those who own them
is a good idea -- and feel free to do that here.  I
recently traded in my gas Bounder for a diesel and it
was a giant leap for me.  Knowing what I know now, would
I do it again?  Yes, but sooner.  The bank would have
had to buy more of it. <g>

Bob

--- Ron wrote:
> Count me in.
--------------

Happy to!  If we can get a couple of diesel guys who
know "All the Stuff You Need to Know About RVing" we
have it made. (Did I mention that some BS is OK here?<g>)

Are you going to have a booth at FMCA, Redmond?  I've
got an empty storage compartment that will hold a couple
of cases of books.  We will be parked in the vendor area
with the other Fleetwood Ambassadors.

Bob

Greetings, Bob

Count me in.

Ron Jones
"Dr. J"  Texas
'02 39R
Co-author (with Bob Lowe) of  "All the Stuff You Need to Know About
RVing."
Available from RonJon Publishing, Inc.  800-262-3060

--- In bounder_diesel@yahoogroups.com, "Bob H." <Z-guy@e...> wrote:
> Welcome, Ted -- and the others who have joined but not
> yet posted.  As long as we can keep things peaceful in
> the Bounder Diesel family, any knowledge folks want to
> pass on is very welcome.
>
> I have one other thing I guess I should say up front. I
> REALLY appreciate the work Jim Murray and his moderators
> do in the Bounder forum.  This is not intended to replace
> that forum, so if we have a post for all Bounder people
> we should be putting it over there.  Happy trails!
>
> Bob H.

Thanks Bob H.,
  for opening this site. Had thought of doing the same but was
concerned about drawing enough interest for others to visit it, let
alone to post questions and thoughts.

Although I don't have a diesel anything but my old VW Rabbit, I
certainly intend for my next Bounder to be one. This time I intend to
be better informed about the issues concerning diesels than I was with
my initial RV purchase.

Thanks again,
Raider
4/19
MOB BOA 4820

--- Ted wrote:
> I am always interested in learning new things,
> usually the best way to do that is an open forum.
> I also enjoy very much the oppurtunity to educate
> others and to pass on skills and knowledge.
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Welcome, Ted -- and the others who have joined but not
yet posted.  As long as we can keep things peaceful in
the Bounder Diesel family, any knowledge folks want to
pass on is very welcome.  And questions from folks just
looking at Bounder Diesels or new to them are also
important.  Don't be afraid to ask; someone here will
have been there, done that.  I do not feel we should
restrict communication simply because it is not
technical enough or to save some unnamed person's
cell phone time.  For the latter, it is better for
them to go no-mail or digest.

It was mentioned to me earlier tonight that sometimes a
rumor gets out in a Bounder forum.  That's certainly OK
with me.  If we get 'em out then we can investigate and
determine which ones are true.  My feeling is that
confronting rumors head on is better than letting them
smolder under the surface.  Let me know what you think
or want for this forum.  What I have presented are ideas,
not rigid guidelines.  This is OUR forum, not mine.

I have one other thing I guess I should say up front. I
REALLY appreciate the work Jim Murray and his moderators
do in the Bounder forum.  This is not intended to replace
that forum, so if we have a post for all Bounder people
we should be putting it over there.  Happy trails!

Bob H.

Bob,

I am always interested in learning new things, usually the best way
to do that is an open forum. I also enjoy very much the oppurtunity
to educate others and to pass on skills and knowledge. We all travel
different paths in life and most of us learn short cuts to make life
easier and better.
Thanks again for the invite.

Ted Bryan
2002 39Z
2003 Explorer Sport Trac
VIP Tow Brake
2 Pole BrakeSwitch

Welcome to the new Bounder Diesel Forum.  Why a
new one?  Simply to provide a somewhat less
restrictive posting environment where straying
from purely technical diesel issues is OK as long
as the post is of interest to other Bounder Diesel
owners.  I intend to do a minimum of "moderation" in
this forum, and that primarily to reduce any offensive
language, spam, or potentially harmful information.
We are family here and you can expect to be treated
like an adult.  This is really your forum, not mine.
I can't see where the volume of messages will get so
great that we must limit posts because of cell phone
users.  It is very easy to switch to digest or a
no-mail option when we are on the road.

Bob H.