I have original Little Fire Fly spots for my 6v 48 Chief.    They cast a
LONG but narrow beam.    I don't really like them for nite riding.    BEst to
get fog beams for the spot lites.   Fogs cast wide LOW beam.   angle them
slightly upward.   OR get some good standard beams for it.  The spot beams are
just too narrow.


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Pete, the typical spot of 1936 is those small spots you see on ebay all,
the time. The Unity styles[pancake and cone] are 40's and up. I recently
picked up an Indian Penalite, which is a georgeous mid thirties full size
spotlight [very rare] shown in the 1935 catalogue. The small spots[like  Kaybee]
are not very strong. They also are in the 1935 catalogue and are  correct
for any rigid. Breeding sells excellent copies of the catalogue.  Marty


In a message dated 11/10/2009 9:46:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bruffsup@... writes:




Most  around here avoid night riding as there are so many suicidal  deer. I
went for a 200 mile ride on Sunday and unavoidably  returning  after dark
discovered how ineffective my headlight is. Anyone know what 1936  indian
spotlights look like? Are repops available.? Halogen?  Upgraded  bulb and
reflector?  I have a 12 volt system .

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yes i did nothing  thanks


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Most  around here avoid night riding as there are so many suicidal deer. I went
for a 200 mile ride on Sunday and unavoidably  returning after dark discovered
how ineffective my headlight is. Anyone know what 1936 indian spotlights look
like? Are repops available.? Halogen?  Upgraded bulb and reflector?  I have a 12
volt system . 




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Walt,
    Try Bills Custom Cycle over in Bloomsburg, PA. I have found he's got the
goods when it comes to 45's. Great little museum too, with Indians to boot,
including a rare 1916 2 stroke(K model?). Phone 570-759-9613, or email
billm@....
           YourFriendKen

--- In VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com, supercyc1@... wrote:
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> 31491-64 STARTER GEAR FOR SERVI 1964 IN STARTER PRIMARY  HOUSING
>
>
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thanks i just push for the winter bump it


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I'm sorry nocanhelpum
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   To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:28 AM
   Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter help hd part



   31491-64 STARTER GEAR FOR SERVI 1964 IN STARTER PRIMARY HOUSING

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Greetings
The one thing I didn't see mentioned, and it work for bikes without a filter or
with a spin on filter. Take a round plastic squeeze bottle with a tapered screw
on top (same as Hypoid rear end oil comes in, or smaller clear bottles you can
buy at Harbor Freight), fill with oil and place the nozzle in the return line in
the tank. You will need to bend the line over by the cap opening to do this.
Press down to get a seal and squeeze the bottle of oil to force it down the
return line.When you unseal it, it will backflow a little, but then just driop
oil to fill the line.
On stubborn engines, I have had to do this 2 or 3 times. It should pump within a
minute or two.
Good luck.
Dan C

--- In VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com, "Darren chafin" <djchafin@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> I didnā€™t see anyone suggest to you to make sure your line fittings are
tight. If you have an air leakā€¦ your pump will not pump properly. Just a
thought.
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> From: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com [mailto:VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:06 PM
> To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Re: Oil Flow Problem
>
>
>
>
>
> Lyle,
>
> Thanks for the advice, I will try to refill the return lines as you suggest.
>
> Bill
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lyle <creepinogie@... <mailto:creepinogie%40yahoo.com> >
> To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com <mailto:VirtualIndian%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 7:04:10 PM
> Subject: [Virtual Indian] Re: Oil Flow Problem
>
>
> Take an oil can and use it to fill up the return line to prime the pump. You
may need to do this at the oil filter.
>
> --- In VirtualIndian@ yahoogroups. com, Bill McCarthy <bill.mccarthy@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > I apologize ahead of time for the length of this posting. I have been
working on a 48 Chief that I purchased in the spring of this year.  The bike was
in good overall shape, but I have been doing all of the necessary checks and
replacements as the bike had sat for about four years. I changed out the
battery, replaced and cleaned all of the fluid reservoirs, points, plugs, etc. 
The bike started up on the third kick and I was impressed until I noticed that
there was no oil returning to the reservoir tank.  The bike had been restored in
the early 90's and had an inline oil filter placed below the horn.  When I
changed the filter, I filled it as much as possible with oil and also primed the
feed line to the pump.  I also tried to prime the return line by squirting oil
down the return line in the reservoir tank. I have started the bike three times
and let it run for a few minutes( less than 5), but am afraid of causing damage
by running too long.
> > I wonder if this is normal and if I should let the bike run longer to fill
the line more completely or if there is a problem in the pump itself.  My next
step is to start disconnecting the return lines and see if there is any oil
coming directly from the pump before the external filter.  Any thoughts or
suggestions?  Do I really need the filter if I am going to be changing the oil
every couple of thousand miles or so?
> > By the way, when shifting into first there was more grinding than I expected
and I was only able to shift by a very firm push.  Is this normal and would
using 50w oil instead of  the 80w-140 Synthetic( shared transmission and primary
drive) help?
> > On a lighter note, how long does it take to get used to the foot clutch and
braking when you come to a stop?  Do you put the brake foot down first and use
the hand brake or rely on the suicide clutch and put the left foot down first. 
I have been riding bikes for over forty years and never felt so uncoordinated.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Agree! Go with bushings, but be sure and add the grease zerks.  The bosses are
in the castings.  The zerks and special tap are available from KIWI and probably
others. 

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, fred johansen <redfred47@...> wrote:


From: fred johansen <redfred47@...>
Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] 46-48 front end
To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:37 PM


Bronze bushings are by FAR the superior method here.  That is why they
improved to them in '48, after learning their lesson with snapped cross
shafts from the needle bearings.
RF.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Bill Rowe
<toolroom@...>wrote:

>
>
> What is best, roller needle bearings or 660 brass bushings in a 46
> front end.,, Thanks , Dirtbag
> 
>



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Bronze bushings are by FAR the superior method here.  That is why they
improved to them in '48, after learning their lesson with snapped cross
shafts from the needle bearings.
RF.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Bill Rowe
<toolroom@...>wrote:

>
>
> What is best, roller needle bearings or 660 brass bushings in a 46
> front end.,, Thanks , Dirtbag
>
>



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Bill,
Ā 
Use brass. The factory switched to brass, beacuse theĀ needle bearings didn`t
work out.
Drill & tap the fork for grease zerks while you`re at it.
Ā 
IndianFrank

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Bill Rowe <toolroom@...> wrote:


From: Bill Rowe <toolroom@...>
Subject: [Virtual Indian] 46-48 front end
To: "VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com" <VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:19 PM


Ā 



What is best, roller needle bearings or 660 brass bushings in a 46
front end.,, Thanks , Dirtbag







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Bronze Bushing are by FAR more superior for this application.  That's why
they improved to them in '48.   The cross shafts are more prone to snap with
the needle bearings
RF.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Bill Rowe
<toolroom@...>wrote:

>
>
> What is best, roller needle bearings or 660 brass bushings in a 46
> front end.,, Thanks , Dirtbag
>
>



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69 Pinehurst Way
San Francisco, CA. 94127

AMCA Director & Technical Editor


Please note my new email address: redfred47@...


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What is best,  roller needle bearings or 660 brass bushings in a 46
front end.,, Thanks ,  Dirtbag

31491-64 STARTER GEAR FOR SERVI 1964 IN STARTER PRIMARY  HOUSING


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Which gear do you need?- Phil;
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: supercyc1@...
   To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:54 AM
   Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter help hd part



   I KNOW THIS IS OUT OF THE CIRCLE BUT INEED STARTER GEAR FOR 64 HHHHHHHHHHD
WALT I WOULD APRIECIATE IT WALT

   -----Original Message-----
   From: hmidtvik <344chief@...>
   To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:26 am
   Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter

   I guess the problem is finding the youngsters who are willing..
   While there are some youngsters that can or want to work on and ride old
indians... it's way too expensive to buy one..! :)

   Makes more sense to buy a modern bike...for most..

   --- In VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com, Jack <ja.korpijaakko@...> wrote:
   >
   > > Over 60? I think that's most of us!
   > >
   > Hopefully not so.....or we will need new blood SOON.... ;-))
   >
   > Jack
   >

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Thanks for that Robin,
     You are absolutly correct about the slight prying from the back of the
sprocket when hammering on the outter edge.  Good call.  It's been awhile
since I got into this task.
      Thanks for the info on the early commercial stuff also.  It all makes
sense actually!
Many Thanks, RF.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:00 AM, <IndianRobn@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Re: Engine Sprocket Removal
> Fred and Robbie are right. It makes it a lot easier though to take a
> screwdriver and hold outward pressure under one of the teeth, put a little
> piece of wood under the screwdriver onto the primary cover, then tap the
> sprocket, you don't have to kill it. They'll pop right off.
>
> Re: Pics - RedFred
> The pics you sent are really cool....I really like the A C Cobras....I see
> Indians everyday!!
>
> Re: DT Questions - RedFred
> Sorry it has taken so long to answer your questions. I have been
> overwhelmed with emails and phone calls over a bunch of crap lately.
> Commercial vehicles and police almost always used up previous year parts.
> Yes, 246 is a low serial number. I have seen one other low number 36 DT
> frame with the 35 shifter boss. As far as using the "spray can cap" (I call
> it snuff box) ignition, I would say this definitely wasn't used unless
> specifically ordered. Later in the year in 35, Scouts and Chiefs were
> already starting to use the regular distributor with the elbow.
> According to the 1936 parts suppliment for the 35 Parts Book, remember the
> 36 suppliment came out before the 1936 Parts Book,they list a different left
> rear fender for the DT and they also list all the 1936 taillight parts and
> normal DT taillight and license plate brackets, as used up to and including
> 42.
> Early ratio on the transmission is a definite. The later ratio didn't come
> out till 1937.
> I have not found a listing for black seats, but I have quite a few 8 x 10
> factory black and white glossy promo pictures of fairly new 1935 DT's and I
> would say some of the seats are black or very dark brown. In a lot of black
> and white pictures, the normal Indian tan solo seats show up as almost white
> in a black and white picture. I know because I used to cut these motorcycles
> out as a kid and play with them at the shop.
>
> Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
> Robin
>
> Hi Robin,
> I have an early DT with 636 246 stamped on the upper frame, under the seat.
> However, it has the narrow shifter boss, that accepts the early shifter.
> I'm wondering if this can be considered an EARLY '36, and still retain the
> '35 style "spray can cap" ignition points instead of the long-shafted, right
> angle driven distributor? Also wondering if the '35 style tail light would
> be acceptable on a so-called, EARLY '36, as well as the early ratio Reverse
> Tranny? This bike seemed to have some early stuff on it, but no engine.
> Perhaps this commercial stuff is a little out of the ordinary? Would it be
> possible to find a black seat on a commercial job also? Just wondering.
> Many Thanks, RF.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fred johansen <redfred47@... <redfred47%40gmail.com>>
> To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com <VirtualIndian%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:11 am
> Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Engine sprocket removal
>
> Actually, smack the engine drive sproket with a hammer, as if you were
> rying to hammer it ON. But do this on the raised outer ridge, which should
> e in line with the outside edge of the clutch basket if you held a straight
> dge to it (this is a hint for your re-assembly). Yes, smack this outer
> idge of the sprocket inward, toward the engine. It will eventually shake
> oose from the tapered keyway of the drive pin, or shaft.
> Makes one wonder what is happening with the trueness of the flywheels
> fter such an excersise.
> et us know how you do, RF.
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Minnesota Mike
<bobchopcafe@...<bobchopcafe%40hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
>
> I am replacing the the primary chain on my 1947 Chief, and the engine
> sprocket is being difficult in coming off. Is there a trick to getting this
> loose? or is there a tool that is required?
>
> --
> ed Fred Johansen
> 9 Pinehurst Way
> an Francisco, CA. 94127
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>
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I have always had luck in the removal by using a brass drift and hammer at
the inner part of the sprocket right at the key way.

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In a message dated 11/8/2009 11:11:40 PM Central Standard Time,
redfred47@... writes:


> Yes, smack this outer
> ridge of the sprocket inward, toward the engine.  It will

BE sure to use a brass or lead hammer.


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I KNOW THIS IS OUT OF THE CIRCLE BUT INEED STARTER GEAR FOR 64 HHHHHHHHHHD WALT
I WOULD APRIECIATE  IT WALT


-----Original Message-----
From: hmidtvik <344chief@...>
To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:26 am
Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter






I guess the problem is finding the youngsters who are willing..
While there are some youngsters that can or want to work on and ride old
indians... it's way too expensive to buy one..! :)

Makes more sense to buy a modern bike...for most..

--- In VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com, Jack <ja.korpijaakko@...> wrote:
>
> > Over 60? I think that's most of us!
> >
> Hopefully not so.....or we will need new blood SOON.... ;-))
>
> Jack
>







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I guess the problem is finding the youngsters who are willing..
While there are some youngsters that can or want to work on and ride old
indians... it's way too expensive to buy one..! :)

Makes more sense to buy a modern bike...for most..


--- In VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com, Jack <ja.korpijaakko@...> wrote:
>
> > Over 60? I think that's most of us!
> >
> Hopefully not so.....or we will need new blood SOON.... ;-))
>
> Jack
>

Re: Engine Sprocket Removal
Fred and Robbie are right.  It makes it a lot easier though to take a
screwdriver and hold outward pressure under one of the teeth, put a little piece
of wood under the screwdriver onto the primary cover, then tap the sprocket, you
don't have to kill it.  They'll pop right off.

Re: Pics - RedFred
The pics you sent are really cool....I really like the A C Cobras....I see
Indians everyday!!

Re: DT Questions - RedFred
Sorry it has taken so long to answer your questions. I have been overwhelmed
with emails and phone calls over a bunch of crap lately.
Commercial vehicles and police almost always used up previous year parts. Yes,
246 is a low serial number. I have seen one other low number 36 DT frame with
the 35 shifter boss. As far as using the "spray can cap" (I call it snuff box)
ignition, I would say this definitely wasn't used unless specifically ordered.
Later in the year in 35, Scouts and Chiefs were already starting to use the
regular distributor with the elbow.
According to the 1936 parts suppliment for the 35 Parts Book, remember the 36
suppliment came out before the 1936 Parts Book,they list a different left rear
fender for the DT and they also list all the 1936 taillight parts and normal DT
taillight and license plate brackets, as used up to and including 42.
Early ratio on the transmission is a definite. The later ratio didn't come out
till 1937.
I have not found a listing for black seats, but I have quite a few 8 x 10
factory black and white glossy promo pictures of fairly new 1935 DT's and I
would say some of the seats are black or very dark brown. In a lot of black and
white pictures, the normal Indian tan solo seats show up as almost white in a
black and white picture. I know because I used to cut these motorcycles out as a
kid and play with them at the shop.

Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
Robin

Hi Robin,
I have an early DT with 636 246 stamped on the upper frame, under the seat.
However, it has the narrow shifter boss, that accepts the early shifter.
I'm wondering if this can be considered an EARLY '36, and still retain the '35
style "spray can cap" ignition points instead of the long-shafted, right angle
driven distributor? Also wondering if the '35 style tail light would be
acceptable on a so-called, EARLY '36, as well as the early ratio Reverse Tranny?
This bike seemed to have some early stuff on it, but no engine.
Perhaps this commercial stuff is a little out of the ordinary? Would it be
possible to find a black seat on a commercial job also? Just wondering.
Many Thanks, RF.



-----Original Message-----
From: fred johansen <redfred47@...>
To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 12:11 am
Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Engine sprocket removal



Actually, smack the engine drive sproket with a hammer, as if you were
rying to hammer it ON.  But do this on the raised outer ridge, which should
e in line with the outside edge of the clutch basket if you held a straight
dge to it (this is a hint for your re-assembly).    Yes, smack this outer
idge of the sprocket inward, toward the engine.  It will eventually shake
oose from the tapered keyway of the drive pin, or shaft.
    Makes one wonder what is happening with the trueness of the flywheels
fter such an excersise.
et us know how you do, RF.
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Minnesota Mike <bobchopcafe@...>wrote:
>

  I am replacing the the primary chain on my 1947 Chief, and the engine
  sprocket is being difficult in coming off. Is there a trick to getting this
  loose? or is there a tool that is required?




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> Over 60? I think that's most of us!
>
Hopefully not so.....or we will need new blood SOON.... ;-))

Jack

At 01:44 AM 11/9/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>
>OK all the old ones are excused from kick starting

Over 60? I think that's most of us!

OK all the old ones are excused from kick starting



To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
From: Hetuch@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:16:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter





Alan Sir,
Just curious how old you are ?
Betcha " you aren't yet 70. Some of us still enjoy the vintage machiems but
trying to kick one is a bitch.
Especially hard for those that have knees replaceds, ect. I'm still doing it
at 76 and 155 pounds, but time is running down and I also am looking at 12 v
and starter.

Paul R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hatch" <hatchy123@...>
To: <virtualindian@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter

>
> Why so lazy
>
> If you want Electric Start buy a Hardly Ridable
>
>
>
> To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
> From: digney@...
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:42:35 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
>
>
>
>
>
> G'day
> Will it kick over the big 80 cube? What crank amp battery is
> needed?
> thanks
> Garry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Reynolds" <Hetuch@...>
> To: <VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:09:15 -0500
>
>>Michael 351
>>Christian Timmerman in Germany
>> His e-mail is AneteSaar@...
>>
>>Also here is a letter from Christian to me about the
>>starter and where to see it on YouTube.
>>
>>Paul R.
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------
>>---------------
>>
>>www.youtube.com and search for indian electric kickstarter
>>1/2/3 etc I have several little videos posted -one is a
>>"step by step " installation video. You may find these
>>helpful to understand how the system works and how easy it
>>is to install it.
>>
>>I received an email a couple of days ago from a customer
>>who uses his Indian Chief daily and has done some 35.000
>>miles using the electric kickstarter and the unit still
>>works OK - he needs a new clutch bearing now for his one
>>started to slip ( 65,- U$ item and available in the US )
>>..... still a good mileage I guess. Installation is done
>>within a few hours while you do not have to take your
>>original kicker stud off the frame - in fact no original
>>part has to be modified - You need to run your Chief on 12V
>>though. I am asking 1.420,- U$ at this time - This may
>>differ in a while because of the exchange rate ? = $ -
>>shipping will be an extra 50,- U$. Please let me know if
>>you need any further information - I have the unit ready
>>to be shipped.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>> From: egholt344
>> To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:27 PM
>> Subject: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
>>
>>
>>
>> Will the electric starter fit on the 4 speed gearbox ?
>> Any know a dealer in Europe ?
>>
>> Michael 351
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Actually, smack the engine drive sproket with a hammer, as if you were
trying to hammer it ON.  But do this on the raised outer ridge, which should
be in line with the outside edge of the clutch basket if you held a straight
edge to it (this is a hint for your re-assembly).    Yes, smack this outer
ridge of the sprocket inward, toward the engine.  It will eventually shake
loose from the tapered keyway of the drive pin, or shaft.
     Makes one wonder what is happening with the trueness of the flywheels
after such an excersise.
Let us know how you do, RF.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Minnesota Mike <bobchopcafe@...>wrote:

>
>
> I am replacing the the primary chain on my 1947 Chief, and the engine
> sprocket is being difficult in coming off. Is there a trick to getting this
> loose? or is there a tool that is required?
>
>
>



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AMCA Director & Technical Editor


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a big hammer on the right spot...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Minnesota Mike" <bobchopcafe@...>
To: <VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:51 PM
Subject: [Virtual Indian] Engine sprocket removal


>I am replacing the the primary chain on my 1947 Chief, and the engine
>sprocket is being difficult in coming off. Is there a trick to getting this
>loose? or is there a tool that is required?
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I am replacing the the primary chain on my 1947 Chief, and the engine sprocket
is being difficult in coming off. Is there a trick to getting this loose? or is
there a tool that is required?

I am still getting used to sending messages on VI and realize that the following
only went to one of the people who responded to my oil flow problem, here it is
again.....

Thanks to all who responded to my original questions regarding oil flow
problems, etc. I will get to work in the next few days and hopefully fix the oil
flow problem and get a chance to practice the clutch and controls before the
snow flies here in Upstate NY. I have been a member of VI since earlier this
year and find all the postings interesting and extremely helpful in gaining a
better understanding of my bike and find it impressive that there is so
much global participation in the VI postings.

Bill




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Bill,



I didnā€™t see anyone suggest to you to make sure your line fittings are tight.
If you have an air leakā€¦ your pump will not pump properly. Just a thought.



Darren



From: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com [mailto:VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:06 PM
To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Re: Oil Flow Problem





Lyle,

Thanks for the advice, I will try to refill the return lines as you suggest.

Bill

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From: Lyle <creepinogie@... <mailto:creepinogie%40yahoo.com> >
To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com <mailto:VirtualIndian%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 7:04:10 PM
Subject: [Virtual Indian] Re: Oil Flow Problem


Take an oil can and use it to fill up the return line to prime the pump. You may
need to do this at the oil filter.

--- In VirtualIndian@ yahoogroups. com, Bill McCarthy <bill.mccarthy@ ...>
wrote:
>
> I apologize ahead of time for the length of this posting. I have been working
on a 48 Chief that I purchased in the spring of this year.  The bike was in good
overall shape, but I have been doing all of the necessary checks and
replacements as the bike had sat for about four years. I changed out the
battery, replaced and cleaned all of the fluid reservoirs, points, plugs, etc. 
The bike started up on the third kick and I was impressed until I noticed that
there was no oil returning to the reservoir tank.  The bike had been restored in
the early 90's and had an inline oil filter placed below the horn.  When I
changed the filter, I filled it as much as possible with oil and also primed the
feed line to the pump.  I also tried to prime the return line by squirting oil
down the return line in the reservoir tank. I have started the bike three times
and let it run for a few minutes( less than 5), but am afraid of causing damage
by running too long.
> I wonder if this is normal and if I should let the bike run longer to fill the
line more completely or if there is a problem in the pump itself.  My next step
is to start disconnecting the return lines and see if there is any oil coming
directly from the pump before the external filter.  Any thoughts or suggestions?
Do I really need the filter if I am going to be changing the oil every couple of
thousand miles or so?
> By the way, when shifting into first there was more grinding than I expected
and I was only able to shift by a very firm push.  Is this normal and would
using 50w oil instead of  the 80w-140 Synthetic( shared transmission and primary
drive) help?
> On a lighter note, how long does it take to get used to the foot clutch and
braking when you come to a stop?  Do you put the brake foot down first and use
the hand brake or rely on the suicide clutch and put the left foot down first. 
I have been riding bikes for over forty years and never felt so uncoordinated.
>
> Bill
>
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My hat's off to you Paul. At 49 my knees are full of bone spurs and I'm sure
I'll be e-starting at your age...
LL



--- In VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com, "Paul  Reynolds" <Hetuch@...> wrote:
>
> Alan Sir,
>  Just curious how old you are ?
>  Betcha " you aren't yet 70. Some of us still enjoy the vintage machiems but
> trying to kick one is a bitch.
> Especially hard for those that have knees replaceds, ect. I'm still doing it
> at 76 and 155 pounds, but time is running down and I also am looking at 12 v
> and starter.
>
> Paul  R
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Hatch" <hatchy123@...>
> To: <virtualindian@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
>
>
> >
> > Why so lazy
> >
> > If you want Electric Start buy a Hardly Ridable
> >
> >
> >
> > To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
> > From: digney@...
> > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:42:35 +1000
> > Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > G'day
> > Will it kick over the big 80 cube? What crank amp battery is
> > needed?
> > thanks
> > Garry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Reynolds" <Hetuch@...>
> > To: <VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
> > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:09:15 -0500
> >
> >>Michael 351
> >>Christian Timmerman in Germany
> >> His e-mail is AneteSaar@...
> >>
> >>Also here is a letter from Christian to me about the
> >>starter and where to see it on YouTube.
> >>
> >>Paul R.
> >>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------
> >>---------------
> >>
> >>www.youtube.com and search for indian electric kickstarter
> >>1/2/3 etc I have several little videos posted -one is a
> >>"step by step " installation video. You may find these
> >>helpful to understand how the system works and how easy it
> >>is to install it.
> >>
> >>I received an email a couple of days ago from a customer
> >>who uses his Indian Chief daily and has done some 35.000
> >>miles using the electric kickstarter and the unit still
> >>works OK - he needs a new clutch bearing now for his one
> >>started to slip ( 65,- U$ item and available in the US )
> >>..... still a good mileage I guess. Installation is done
> >>within a few hours while you do not have to take your
> >>original kicker stud off the frame - in fact no original
> >>part has to be modified - You need to run your Chief on 12V
> >>though. I am asking 1.420,- U$ at this time - This may
> >>differ in a while because of the exchange rate ? = $ -
> >>shipping will be an extra 50,- U$. Please let me know if
> >>you need any further information - I have the unit ready
> >>to be shipped.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
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> >> To: VirtualIndian@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:27 PM
> >> Subject: [Virtual Indian] Electric starter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Will the electric starter fit on the 4 speed gearbox ?
> >> Any know a dealer in Europe ?
> >>
> >> Michael 351
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