By using a diode (wheatstone bridge) he can use one led for both turnsignals



To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
From: jackbyers@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:50:23 -0800
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Panel Lights - no sound





HUH!!!!!!!!!!!
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Tom Miller wrote:

>
> I decided a while back a buzzer or other sound would be (1) lame
> and embarasing [like my spelling] and (2) inaudible at any real speed.
>
> My next thought is to put a dazling blue (choose your own colour
> here) LED in the centre or the console. This is where my alarm LED
> is, so maybe transfering those connections to the rev counter LED
> where it should have been sited.
>
> The -ve side of the blue diode to the earth or ground, and a
> regular diode and limiting resistor from each indicator to the +ve
> side of the diode (a single component failure won't lead to a major
> fault/fire/fuse to blow).
>
> Sound good?
>
> Tom. 1200 14,100 2002
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> From: june56091@...
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:47:49 -0800
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a larger tinted windshield on my trophy and just noticed
> after reading that I can use the reflection of the indicators on
> the shield to keep track of turning them off
>
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, john tabberer <rebullet@...> wrote:
>
> From: john tabberer <rebullet@...>
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:17 PM
>
>
>
> I am intending to play with a microcontroller and a buzzer for the
> same reason... keep forgetting to cancel the indicators, and in the
> bright tropical english summer the telltale lights on the dash
> panel are not easy to see...
>
> What I was thinking of, was monitoring the two rear indicator
> lights and the brake light.
> and if the indicators were still flashing say after ten seconds,
> and the brake light wasn't on, the buzzer would start buzzing in
> time with the indicators. but if you were stationary with the
> brakes on, the timer would keep resetting... and if you were
> intending to indicate for an extended period in traffic, the
> chances are you will be on trickling along with the back brake
> partially on to stabilise the bike, and this will reset the timer.
>
> Coz I hate buzzers buzzing everytime the indicators flash...
>
> Of course, being a trophy, I'll have to make sure the buzzer isn't
> louder than the stock horn... :^))
>
> John
> :^)
>
> John
> --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com> wrote:
>
> From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:43
>
>
>
> I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and
> placed in
> series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5
> from maplin
> (similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
> From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@hotmail. com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
> To: <triumphtrophy@ yahoogroups. com>
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to
>> cancel the
>> indicators.
>>
>> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to
>> mount a
>> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches
>> at the
>> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring
>> for these
>> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring
>> to the
>> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much
>> easier
>> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the
>> indicators.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
>> From: edljohnson2@ cfl.rr.com
>> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
>> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tom;
>> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days
>> are a
>> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the
>> lights
>> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear
>> the bike
>> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was
>> hoping
>> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the
>> hand and
>> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
>> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
>> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
>> Cheers
>> Ed J.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:TriumphTrop hy@
>> yahoogroups. com]
>> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
>> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
>> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>>
>> Ed,
>> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
>> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.
>> com/ykbwol7
>> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>>
>> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ
>> section to
>> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>>
>> Tom D.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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HUH!!!!!!!!!!!
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Tom Miller wrote:

>
> I decided a while back a buzzer or other sound would be (1) lame
> and embarasing [like my spelling] and (2) inaudible at any real speed.
>
> My next thought is to put a dazling blue (choose your own colour
> here) LED in the centre or the console. This is where my alarm LED
> is, so maybe transfering those connections to the rev counter LED
> where it should have been sited.
>
> The -ve side of the blue diode to the earth or ground, and a
> regular diode and limiting resistor from each indicator to the +ve
> side of the diode (a single component failure won't lead to a major
> fault/fire/fuse to blow).
>
> Sound good?
>
> Tom. 1200 14,100 2002
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> From: june56091@...
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:47:49 -0800
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a larger tinted windshield on my trophy and just noticed
> after reading that I can use the reflection of the indicators on
> the shield to keep track of turning them off
>
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, john tabberer <rebullet@...> wrote:
>
> From: john tabberer <rebullet@...>
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:17 PM
>
>
>
> I am intending to play with a microcontroller and a buzzer for the
> same reason... keep forgetting to cancel the indicators, and in the
> bright tropical english summer the telltale lights on the dash
> panel are not easy to see...
>
> What I was thinking of, was monitoring the two rear indicator
> lights and the brake light.
> and if the indicators were still flashing say after ten seconds,
> and the brake light wasn't on, the buzzer would start buzzing in
> time with the indicators. but if you were stationary with the
> brakes on, the timer would keep resetting... and if  you were
> intending to indicate for an extended period in traffic, the
> chances are you will be on trickling along with the back brake
> partially on to stabilise the bike, and this will reset the timer.
>
>  Coz I hate buzzers buzzing everytime the indicators flash...
>
> Of course, being a trophy, I'll have to make sure the buzzer isn't
> louder than the stock horn... :^))
>
> John
> :^)
>
> John
> --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com> wrote:
>
> From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:43
>
>
>
> I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and
> placed in
> series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5
> from maplin
> (similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
> From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@hotmail. com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
> To: <triumphtrophy@ yahoogroups. com>
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to
>> cancel the
>> indicators.
>>
>> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to
>> mount a
>> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches
>> at the
>> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring
>> for these
>> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring
>> to the
>> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much
>> easier
>> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the
>> indicators.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
>> From: edljohnson2@ cfl.rr.com
>> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
>> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tom;
>> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days
>> are a
>> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the
>> lights
>> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear
>> the bike
>> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was
>> hoping
>> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the
>> hand and
>> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
>> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
>> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
>> Cheers
>> Ed J.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:TriumphTrop hy@
>> yahoogroups. com]
>> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
>> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
>> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>>
>> Ed,
>> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
>> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.
>> com/ykbwol7
>> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>>
>> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ
>> section to
>> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>>
>> Tom D.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
>> New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
>> http://www.microsof t.com/uk/ windows/buy/
>>
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Yup. That fender is still going, and I'm still appreciative! ;)

Tom (SW Ohio)


--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, Ron Sands <sandsron2@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Tom W. - nice to see that my front fender is getting a lot of
> exposure ;-)
>
> Ron
>

How about a Heads Up Display,
Use fine enamelled wire to extend the LED up the screen, beneath the screen
edging strip, to the middle of the top edge of the screen, so that the LED's
right in front of your face!

John

--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Tom Miller <tom-miller@...> wrote:

> From: Tom Miller <tom-miller@...>
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Panel Lights - no sound
> To: "Trophy Group" <triumphtrophy@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 23:32
>
> I decided a while back a buzzer or other sound would be (1)
> lame and embarasing [like my spelling] and (2) inaudible at
> any real speed.
>
> My next thought is to put a dazling blue (choose your own
> colour here) LED in the centre or the console. This is where
> my alarm LED is, so maybe transfering those connections to
> the rev counter LED where it should have been sited.
>
> The -ve side of the blue diode to the earth or ground, and
> a regular diode and limiting resistor from each indicator to
> the +ve side of the diode (a single component failure won't
> lead to a major fault/fire/fuse to blow).
>
> Sound good?
>
> Tom. 1200 14,100 2002
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> From: june56091@...
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:47:49 -0800
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>  
>
>
>
> I have a larger tinted windshield on my trophy and just
> noticed after reading that I can use the reflection of the
> indicators on the shield to keep track of turning them off
>
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, john tabberer <rebullet@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: john tabberer <rebullet@...>
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:17 PM
>
>  
>
> I am intending to play with a microcontroller and a buzzer
> for the same reason... keep forgetting to cancel the
> indicators, and in the bright tropical english summer the
> telltale lights on the dash panel are not easy to see...
>
> What I was thinking of, was monitoring the two rear
> indicator lights and the brake light.
> and if the indicators were still flashing say after ten
> seconds, and the brake light wasn't on, the buzzer would
> start buzzing in time with the indicators. but if you were
> stationary with the brakes on, the timer would keep
> resetting... and if  you were intending to indicate for
> an extended period in traffic, the chances are you will be
> on trickling along with the back brake partially on to
> stabilise the bike, and this will reset the timer.
>
>  Coz I hate buzzers buzzing everytime the indicators
> flash...
>
> Of course, being a trophy, I'll have to make sure the
> buzzer isn't louder than the stock horn... :^))
>
> John
> :^)
>
> John
> --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@
> msn.com> wrote:
>
> From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:43
>
>  
>
> I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat
> and placed in
> series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was
> around £5 from maplin
> (similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
> From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@hotmail. com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
> To: <triumphtrophy@ yahoogroups. com>
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
> >
> > Hi Guys
> >
> > I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and
> forget to cancel the
> > indicators.
> >
> > The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to
> do) is to mount a
> > 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small
> triangular patches at the
> > highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen,
> the wiring for these
> > could be tied in with the existing wiring to the
> origonal wiring to the
> > indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these
> would be much easier
> > to see and give you that all important reminder to
> cancel the indicators.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> > From: edljohnson2@ cfl.rr.com
> > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
> > Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Tom;
> > I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area
> where 365 days are a
> > year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm
> inherently lazy, the lights
> > in question are not that easy to get to so I'm
> hesitant to tear the bike
> > apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on
> hand. I was hoping
> > to find someone who had accomplished this task to take
> me by the hand and
> > lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my
> headlight bulbs with
> > Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the
> ones I had, from a
> > similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
> > Cheers
> > Ed J.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:TriumphTrop hy@ yahoogroups. com]
> > On Behalf Of motoworld2001
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
> > To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
> >
> > Ed,
> > The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature
> version of the
> > standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.
> com/ykbwol7
> > Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what
> you remove...
> >
> > As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look
> in the FAQ section to
> > see what other people have done to solve this issue.
> >
> > Tom D.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> _________ _
> > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
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I decided a while back a buzzer or other sound would be (1) lame and embarasing
[like my spelling] and (2) inaudible at any real speed.

My next thought is to put a dazling blue (choose your own colour here) LED in
the centre or the console. This is where my alarm LED is, so maybe transfering
those connections to the rev counter LED where it should have been sited.

The -ve side of the blue diode to the earth or ground, and a regular diode and
limiting resistor from each indicator to the +ve side of the diode (a single
component failure won't lead to a major fault/fire/fuse to blow).

Sound good?

Tom. 1200 14,100 2002





To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
From: june56091@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:47:49 -0800
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights





I have a larger tinted windshield on my trophy and just noticed after reading
that I can use the reflection of the indicators on the shield to keep track of
turning them off

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, john tabberer <rebullet@...> wrote:

From: john tabberer <rebullet@...>
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:17 PM



I am intending to play with a microcontroller and a buzzer for the same
reason... keep forgetting to cancel the indicators, and in the bright tropical
english summer the telltale lights on the dash panel are not easy to see...

What I was thinking of, was monitoring the two rear indicator lights and the
brake light.
and if the indicators were still flashing say after ten seconds, and the brake
light wasn't on, the buzzer would start buzzing in time with the indicators. but
if you were stationary with the brakes on, the timer would keep resetting... and
if  you were intending to indicate for an extended period in traffic, the
chances are you will be on trickling along with the back brake partially on to
stabilise the bike, and this will reset the timer.

  Coz I hate buzzers buzzing everytime the indicators flash...

Of course, being a trophy, I'll have to make sure the buzzer isn't louder than
the stock horn... :^))

John
:^)

John
--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com> wrote:

From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com>
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:43



I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and placed in
series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5 from maplin
(similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@hotmail. com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
To: <triumphtrophy@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

>
> Hi Guys
>
> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to cancel the
> indicators.
>
> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to mount a
> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches at the
> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring for these
> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring to the
> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much easier
> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the indicators.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> From: edljohnson2@ cfl.rr.com
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Tom;
> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a
> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights
> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike
> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping
> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the hand and
> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
> Cheers
> Ed J.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:TriumphTrop hy@ yahoogroups.
com]
> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
> Ed,
> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl. com/ykbwol7
> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>
> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to
> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>
> Tom D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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I have a larger tinted windshield on my trophy and just noticed after reading
that I can use the reflection of the indicators on the shield to keep track of
turning them off

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, john tabberer <rebullet@...> wrote:


From: john tabberer <rebullet@...>
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:17 PM


 



I am intending to play with a microcontroller and a buzzer for the same
reason... keep forgetting to cancel the indicators, and in the bright tropical
english summer the telltale lights on the dash panel are not easy to see...
 
What I was thinking of, was monitoring the two rear indicator lights and the
brake light.
and if the indicators were still flashing say after ten seconds, and the brake
light wasn't on, the buzzer would start buzzing in time with the indicators. but
if you were stationary with the brakes on, the timer would keep resetting... and
if  you were intending to indicate for an extended period in traffic, the
chances are you will be on trickling along with the back brake partially on to
stabilise the bike, and this will reset the timer.
 
 Coz I hate buzzers buzzing everytime the indicators flash...

Of course, being a trophy, I'll have to make sure the buzzer isn't louder than
the stock horn... :^))
 
John
:^)
 
John
--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com> wrote:

From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@ msn.com>
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:43

 

I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and placed in
series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5 from maplin
(similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@hotmail. com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
To: <triumphtrophy@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

>
> Hi Guys
>
> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to cancel the
> indicators.
>
> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to mount a
> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches at the
> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring for these
> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring to the
> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much easier
> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the indicators.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> From: edljohnson2@ cfl.rr.com
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Tom;
> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a
> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights
> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike
> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping
> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the hand and
> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
> Cheers
> Ed J.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:TriumphTrop hy@ yahoogroups.
com]
> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
> Ed,
> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl. com/ykbwol7
> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>
> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to
> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>
> Tom D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
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Thought about a buzzer, looked at some in Stockport but with Led Zep blasting
through my lid and probably ear plugs in as well, realised I would have to go
for visual.



Nearly forgot were any forum members on Ashton Old Road (if you were you'll know
where it is) last Friday evening on a Trophy






P  P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P







To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
From: OfficerRawson@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:43:39 +0000
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights





I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and placed in
series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5 from maplin
(similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
To: <triumphtrophy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

>
> Hi Guys
>
> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to cancel the
> indicators.
>
> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to mount a
> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches at the
> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring for these
> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring to the
> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much easier
> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the indicators.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> From: edljohnson2@...
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Tom;
> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a
> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights
> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike
> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping
> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the hand and
> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
> Cheers
> Ed J.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
> Ed,
> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.com/ykbwol7
> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>
> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to
> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>
> Tom D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
> New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
> http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am intending to play with a microcontroller and a buzzer for the same
reason... keep forgetting to cancel the indicators, and in the bright tropical
english summer the telltale lights on the dash panel are not easy to see...
 
What I was thinking of, was monitoring the two rear indicator lights and the
brake light.
and if the indicators were still flashing say after ten seconds, and the brake
light wasn't on, the buzzer would start buzzing in time with the indicators. but
if you were stationary with the brakes on, the timer would keep resetting... and
if  you were intending to indicate for an extended period in traffic, the
chances are you will be on trickling along with the back brake partially on to
stabilise the bike, and this will reset the timer.
 
 Coz I hate buzzers buzzing everytime the indicators flash...

Of course, being a trophy, I'll have to make sure the buzzer isn't louder than
the stock horn... :^))
 
John
:^)
 
John
--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@...> wrote:


From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@...>
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:43


 



I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and placed in
series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5 from maplin
(similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@hotmail. com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
To: <triumphtrophy@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

>
> Hi Guys
>
> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to cancel the
> indicators.
>
> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to mount a
> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches at the
> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring for these
> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring to the
> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much easier
> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the indicators.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> P P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> From: edljohnson2@ cfl.rr.com
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Tom;
> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a
> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights
> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike
> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping
> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the hand and
> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
> Cheers
> Ed J.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com]
> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
> To: TriumphTrophy@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
> Ed,
> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl. com/ykbwol7
> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>
> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to
> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>
> Tom D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
> http://www.microsof t.com/uk/ windows/buy/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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I think I would be tempted to drain the oil, measure how much there is, If there
is more coming out that you expect the engine to hold normally, then you could
be suffering from petrol leakage on the fuel tap.
 
change the filter anyway and fill it up again.

If the oil level was significantly high, oil will leak out of the stranges
places.
 
once the oil is known to be to the correct level,
try running the bike again...
Hopefully it will be leak free again.
if not, at least the oil will be less messy whilst you asre looking for the
leak, no dirty black stains on the floor...
regards John
--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@...> wrote:


From: Robert rawson <OfficerRawson@...>
Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] arrr.....
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 19:48


 



Is it spitting oil or dripping? Wonder if this is reminiscent of the clutch
push rod seal problem i had recently. Does it leak more on the side stand
dripping down onto the downpipes?

Robert
00 BBBB

>> Finally, after a number of back-firese and pops, it started, and
>> after it warmed up, it seemed to be running okay. After letting her
>> sit running for a moment ( actually went inot the house to grab a
>> cuppa coffee ) I come out and it's spitting oil out !!
>>
>> I quickly turned it off, and after a bit the oil stopped dripping,
>> I wonder if I blew a head gasket on one of those backfires?
>>
>> John's new winter project now is a complete teardown I guess. The
>> bike has over 105,000 kms on her, so probably time anyhow.
>>
>> Any words of wisdom on blowing out gaskets on backfires?
>>
>> John
>> '02 BBBB Trophy
>> Ontario, Canada
>>












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The clutch push rod seal problem I had confused the hell out of me having me
think it was the crankcase breather and an over filled sump.  I thought the sump
gasket may be leaking  also. Oil leaked into the front sprocket cover and then
was thrown out leaking down over the water pump and onto the downpipes just
inside the left fairing. Nothing was visual at all but would burn off when
riding and then drip mainly when on side stand. I had kitchen towel  used as
blotting paper to monitor where the drip was coming from and still did not find
it until some others that had similar issues mentioned it on here.

I am not saying that is your problem but merely one option.

Regards


Robert


I'll have to get out my diagrams... where do you suppose the oil would come out
if it were overfull?

I've got one of those nasty black engines with a sight glass, not a dipstick and
I can't see properly through the sight glass, so I'll have to dump the oil
before I know it's overfull. It does seem lighter than it should be, so short of
a taste test, I'll have to wait until I dump the oil..

Looking at where the oil is dripping out and I've not torn any of the plastic
bits off yet, it looks to be limited to around the overflow for the cooling
system. That's also the lowest point on the bike, so probably doesnt mean much.
I won't know more until I start taking the plastic off.

I agree with you, that compression testing is first thing on the list however if
it's not just something real simple.

And I sure hope its somethig simple. reading the threads about trying to tune
the carbs, and well, I think I'll be out of my mechanical comfort zone with this
bike. Always up for a challenge though.. time will tell.

John
'02 BBBBleeding.
Ontario, Canada




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is it spitting oil or dripping? Wonder if this is reminiscent of the clutch
push rod seal problem i had recently.  Does it leak more on the side stand
dripping down onto the downpipes?

Robert
00 BBBB

>> Finally, after a number of back-firese and pops, it started, and
>> after it warmed up, it seemed to be running okay. After letting her
>> sit running for a moment ( actually went inot the house to grab a
>> cuppa coffee ) I come out and it's spitting oil out !!
>>
>> I quickly turned it off, and after a bit the oil stopped dripping,
>> I wonder if I blew a head gasket on one of those backfires?
>>
>> John's new winter project now is a complete teardown I guess. The
>> bike has over 105,000 kms on her, so probably time anyhow.
>>
>> Any words of wisdom on blowing out gaskets on backfires?
>>
>> John
>> '02 BBBB Trophy
>> Ontario, Canada
>>

I opted for audible buzzer which i located under the seat and placed in
series with the rear indicator lights. The buzzer was around £5 from maplin
(similar to Radio Shack in the U.S.)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "harry capper" <hcapper69@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:45 PM
To: <triumphtrophy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

>
> Hi Guys
>
> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to cancel the
> indicators.
>
> The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to mount a
> 5mm LED preferably green in each of the small triangular patches at the
> highest point of the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring for these
> could be tied in with the existing wiring to the origonal wiring to the
> indicator warning lights. I'm fairly sure that these would be much easier
> to see and give you that all important reminder to cancel the indicators.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> P  P P Save a tree ...... Eat a beaver P P P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> From: edljohnson2@...
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Tom;
> I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a
> year are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights
> in question are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike
> apart until I'm sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping
> to find someone who had accomplished this task to take me by the hand and
> lead me through it. (;-) Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with
> Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50% brighter than the ones I had, from a
> similar type experience, I getting greedy! <G>
> Cheers
> Ed J.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of motoworld2001
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights
>
> Ed,
> The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the
> standard 168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.com/ykbwol7
> Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...
>
> As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to
> see what other people have done to solve this issue.
>
> Tom D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.
> http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: harry capper

> I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to
> cancel the indicators.

Over the years the same problems come up from time to time.

The solutions are usually to be found in the FAQ file.

Ken the Geordie  SST 13
BSA A75R, A10, B40, D10, Triumph Trophy 1200

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KevinH

> I had the same problem with my 900 Trophy once. I'd read
> somewhere on this forum that in order to avoid the 1/4 tank fuel
> starvation, they just run the bike with the fuel tap in the prime
> position.

My solution is just as simple.  I refill before the fuel gauge shows red.

Ken the Geordie  SST 13
BSA A75R, A10, B40, D10, Triumph Trophy 1200

I had the same problem with my 900 Trophy once. I'd read somewhere on this forum
that in order to avoid the 1/4 tank fuel starvation, they just run the bike with
the fuel tap in the prime position. Trouble was, I didn't understand how the tap
worked so I left it parked up like that for a week and the bottom end of the
engine filled with petrol.

Just a word of caution, if this has happened to your bike, be careful when you
take the oil drain plug out, because you'll have an awful lot of thin fuel oil
mix gushing out, and you'll need to have a larger than normal oil tray under the
engine, and a suitable container to decant the (flammable)liquid into.

Of course, when I took the plug out, I didn't end up with a fuel/oil mix all
over my garage floor, did I?
Another lesson learned about the Trophy :)

Welshkev
--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "John" <JMMML@...> wrote:
>
> Well, went out to start the girl this morning.  I live in Ontario, Canada and
the weather man says 10 degrees celciul and sunny tomorrow, so I figured I 'd
get a November ride in.  A rare occurrance here in this part of the world.
>
> The bike's been sitting in the garage, and this morning it was right around
the freezing point.   I turned her over, and although it seemed to spark, the
engine wouldn't catch and run.   On goes the battery chrage, because it has been
sitting nearly a month without being run, and then I start trying it again...
>
> Finally, after a number of back-firese and pops, it started, and after it
warmed up, it seemed to be running okay.   After letting her sit running for a
moment  ( actually went inot the house to grab a cuppa coffee ) I come out and
it's spitting oil out !!
>
> I quickly turned it off, and after a bit the oil stopped dripping, I wonder if
I blew a head gasket on one of those backfires?
>
> John's new winter project now is a complete teardown I guess.  The bike has
over 105,000 kms on her, so probably time anyhow.
>
> Any words of wisdom on blowing out gaskets on backfires?
>
> John
> '02 BBBB Trophy
> Ontario, Canada
>

Hi Guys

I have the same problem ie. cant see the lights and forget to cancel the
indicators.

The solution I have come up with (which I have yet to do) is to mount a 5mm LED
preferably green in each of the small triangular patches at the highest point of
the nosecone just inside the screen, the wiring for these could be tied in with
the existing wiring to the origonal wiring to the indicator warning lights. I'm
fairly sure that these would be much easier to see and give you that all
important reminder to cancel the indicators.







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To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
From: edljohnson2@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:54:01 -0500
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights





Thanks Tom;
I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a year are
riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights in question are
not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike apart until I'm sure I
have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping to find someone who had
accomplished this task to take me by the hand and lead me through it. (;-)
Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50%
brighter than the ones I had, from a similar type experience, I getting greedy!
<G>
Cheers
Ed J.

-----Original Message-----
From: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of motoworld2001
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

Ed,
The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the standard 168
bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.com/ykbwol7
Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...

As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to see
what other people have done to solve this issue.

Tom D.






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I'd have to say looks like carbon build up , oil might be leaking past the rings
or valve stems
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   From: POTIERj<mailto:potierj@...>
   To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:07 AM
   Subject: [TriumphTrophy] valves gasket ?



  
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   Engine 38 000 km, 1999, dark "stuff" on valves for cylinder 1 and 4, xhat do
you think





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hard starting problem. You may want to check to see what plugs you're running.
Sounds like most folks are running the 8's in the winter and the 9's in the
summer.

Our FAQ's lists the DPR8-EA9 as an optional "winter" plug. I think this info is
based on NKG's recommendations. It's hard to argue with experience and NKG knows
a lot more about plugs than Triumph, so if NKG says the 8's are ok they probably
are.

The only plug recommended by Triumph or the Haynes manual is the NKGDPR9-EA9.
Nothing else.

Jim
2003 Trophy 1200
Collierville, TN

Like Pop said, You've got to clean it up and find that leak before anyone can
help you make a reasonable decision as to what the corrective action will be.

You will need a powerful light for inspection. If you don't find anything at
first, try pushing and pulling on everything you can get your hands on. Some
leaks are incredibly difficult to find until the line, fitting or hose is
flexed. The hardest type of leak to find is the ones associated with contraction
and expansion of metal. They usually don't leak very much but over time can make
a nasty mess of you bike and floor. It's probably not the kind of leak that you
have but you never know. I've used contact cleaner with compressed air to
cool/clean a hot area to find this type of leak before. Also, rubbing alcohol
works well for cleaning too. Another way to clean is to put your solvent into a
bucket and use compressed air with a spray/hose attachment ($3 at harbor
freight) and really clean her up good for inspection. I do this at each of the
big maintenance intervals. If you can get it running, start it up for about 1
min and shut it down for a detailed inspection. This is just to build a few
pounds of pressure in the sump. Then try for about 2 min and so on. Eventually,
the right pressure/heat combination may produce the leak that you're after. With
a big leak like your describing I doubt it will come down to all of this detail.

Good Luck,

Jim
2003 Trophy 1200
Collierville, TN

I'll throw my hat in for the Dragon RAID Trophy meet thingie.  Every
year I put it on my list but never make it.  I'll really try to go this
time.  The past few years have been crazy for me.  So sad that I missed
the Clingmans Dome event.

Hey Tom W. - nice to see that my front fender is getting a lot of
exposure ;-)

Ron

--
Ron Sands
'02 T100, '96 Trophy 900, '69 T120R, '67 T120R
sandsron2@...
Hamburg, PA
"Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly!"

HI John,

I'm your neighbor in Minnesota, where it gets cold as well, and my 2001 BBBB was
fussy to start after sitting for weeks during our cold, wet October. I have read
where the battery must be fully charged to fire the plugs even if the starter
motor cranks well. Perhaps I have also not fully developed the correct choke
procedure when the bike is in the 40 degree range.
However, I do not have any oil leakage. Please let us know what you find with
your engine.

Thanks,

Bones

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I'm home again!
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On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Bob Clark wrote:

> Everyone makes thier own. For me Camping is the way to go.
>
> Bob Clark
>
> On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:32 PM, daniel pellecchia <june56091@...>
> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> I'm new to Triumph ownership and would like to attend, do I make my
> own sleepin arrangements or are they done as a group? How does
> gettin together work? You can count me in.
>
> Dan
> 95 Trophy 900
> Windsor Locks CT
>
> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Robert <apsllp@...> wrote:
>
> From: Robert <apsllp@...>
> Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Trophy Ride Discussion - Dragon Raid Sept
> 13 - Sept 19 2010 Robbinsville, NC
> To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:31 PM
>
> So it looks like 5 so far. Who else is game?
>
> LD -
> Jim - TN 1200
> Bob - FL 1200
> Ron -
> Tom - SW OH
>
> Luther from Indiana said he might make it.
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Hi Bob,
    I couldn't  hardly stand speeds over 60mph, as the buffeting was
so bad, and my wife wasn't even as happy as I was. I have only had
the stock screen, but when I added the Microsworl, the ride was
amazing. I rode thru a 2' downpour up in Oregon, and the edging even
kept my vision decent . I just rode in the tire tracks to avoid deep
water. It installs in a minute. I put a little superglue, and clamped
the ends, but that was it. Nearly 15 years ago.
Poppa
On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Robert wrote:

> Jack:
>
> On a stock screen?
>
> Bob
>
> Jack Byers wrote:
> > Hey Bob,
> > I'd bet that "Microswirl-edging from SAENG (I'm not sure of the
> > spelling), I am 5'10", but mine is a '95. But I'll tell you Bob,
> that
> > little edging has been the best thing since $1.00 burgers, and $0.35
> > cent gas. No more head waggle. It's quieter.
>
>



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Hey Tom,
   If you're in Orange county (Disneyland, or Knotts Berry Farm, call
me 1714-8275196. We'll get together!
On Nov 7, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Tom wrote:

> I would consider a West Coast Trophy gathering myself if it
> happened to fall sometime in July. I'm either planning a cross
> country ride to SoCal and up the PCH, OR a trip North of the Arctic
> Circle and back via Alaska. It's most likely gonna be the
> California coast though, as I can't seem to find any of my buddies
> stupi... err, I mean adventurous enough to make an Alaskan trip
> with me. I already have permission from my wife and kids to be gone
> 3 or 4 weeks (whatever it takes).
>
> Tom (SW Ohio)
> 1999 Triumph Trophy 1200
> 2004 Triumph Speed Four
>
> --- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "John F" <mailman93060@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > A boy can dream. I'm committed to the as yet to be scheduled West
> Coast Trophy Trouncing in Spring/Summer. I'll be at the Dragon Raid
> if I'm not otherwise engaged. Maybe is the best I can do on that
> front.
> >
>
>



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I wish I could join ya Bro. It sounds like a great time, but it's
just too far for my finances this year, here's hoping. Another time!
Let's do something out  West, where it's clear,and warm????
    Kindest regards,
    Poppa Jack
On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:02 PM, John F wrote:

> A boy can dream. I'm committed to the as yet to be scheduled West
> Coast Trophy Trouncing in Spring/Summer. I'll be at the Dragon Raid
> if I'm not otherwise engaged. Maybe is the best I can do on that
> front.
>
> Here's my "Excuse Poker" hand: 7 kids, 1 grandchild, Department of
> War is always on High Alert, two ex-wives with disturbingly
> accurate BPG's (bit*h propelled grenades), and early onset of
> Alzheimer's. It takes a perfectly executed show of force combined
> with flawless 'diplomatic action' to launch a successful border
> crossing. I keep getting better at it. I am Cautiously Optimistic
> about the Rides in 2010.
>
> Heading to Joliet to see my son and his family next weekend, so I
> can't complain. Taking the Trophy No Matter What. (Yep, I'm
> officially taunting Mother Nature. Guess my Wild Card is being
> stupid.) Why did I start this reply?
>
> John F
> 96 1200 BRG
> Minneapolis
>
> >
> > I believe that only 2 or 3 people have actually said they would
> make it. Any Trophy riders out there who will meet us at the Dragon
> Raid and then do a Trophy Ride, Please speak up.
>
>



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Hey John,
    I would clean her up really good, top off the oil, fire it up, and
see just where it 's leaking.
Other than on a drag-bike, full blown, I've never seen oil just spurt
form a motor. I'd be looking for a cracked line, or a lessor seal. I
blew up a BSA- a-10 once from the oil seal on the tach drive!
Kindest regards,
    Poppa Jack
On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:32 AM, John wrote:

> Well, went out to start the girl this morning. I live in Ontario,
> Canada and the weather man says 10 degrees celciul and sunny
> tomorrow, so I figured I 'd get a November ride in. A rare
> occurrance here in this part of the world.
>
> The bike's been sitting in the garage, and this morning it was
> right around the freezing point. I turned her over, and although it
> seemed to spark, the engine wouldn't catch and run. On goes the
> battery chrage, because it has been sitting nearly a month without
> being run, and then I start trying it again...
>
> Finally, after a number of back-firese and pops, it started, and
> after it warmed up, it seemed to be running okay. After letting her
> sit running for a moment ( actually went inot the house to grab a
> cuppa coffee ) I come out and it's spitting oil out !!
>
> I quickly turned it off, and after a bit the oil stopped dripping,
> I wonder if I blew a head gasket on one of those backfires?
>
> John's new winter project now is a complete teardown I guess. The
> bike has over 105,000 kms on her, so probably time anyhow.
>
> Any words of wisdom on blowing out gaskets on backfires?
>
> John
> '02 BBBB Trophy
> Ontario, Canada
>
>



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http://img188.imageshack.us/i/08112009035.jpg/

Engine 38 000 km, 1999, dark "stuff" on valves for cylinder 1 and 4, xhat do you
think

Thanks Tom;
	 I'll check both suggestions out. Living in an area where 365 days are a year
are riding days, plus the fact that I'm inherently lazy, the lights in question
are not that easy to get to so I'm hesitant to tear the bike apart until I'm
sure I have the proper replacements on hand. I was hoping to find someone who
had accomplished this task to take me by the hand and lead me through it. (;-)
Having just replaced my headlight bulbs with Silverstar H4 bulbs that are 50%
brighter than the ones I had, from a similar type experience, I getting greedy!
<G>
Cheers
Ed J.

-----Original Message-----
From: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of motoworld2001
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:19 PM
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Panel Lights

Ed,
     The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the standard
168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.com/ykbwol7
Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...

As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to see
what other people have done to solve this issue.

Tom D.

Ed,
     The bulbs that you are talking about are a miniature version of the standard
168 bulb. I think they "may" be these: http://tinyurl.com/ykbwol7
Look at the size of the bulb listed then measure what you remove...

As for what LED's to use in place of the stock, look in the FAQ section to see
what other people have done to solve this issue.

Tom D.

--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Johnson" <edljohnson2@...> wrote:
>
>  I failed in my research to find the answer to my question but what kind of
lamps are used in the indicator panel for turn signals, Neutral, Bright Lights,
etc. I want to change to LED's but don’t know what to order.
> Help!
> Ed J.
>