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#46350 From: "Phillip Koken" <phil@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 2:01 pm
Subject: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
philkoken
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I went out and did some "testing" yesterday of my new Pilot Powers, and I am
impressed.

http://www.koken.org/phillip/triumph/tire_testing.jpg

These tires are the best tires I have ever ridden on any motorcycle-

There is no shortage of traction available with the new tires, and turn in
is a quite a bit quicker than with the Avons (which were quicker than the
BT020) and initially that bothered me. At the beginning of the ride I felt
like I was learning the bike again, as I would overdo my steering inputs
making for wavy lines through corners. Within 50 miles I got it all figured
out, and now I really like the way the bike handles- almost effortless
(which is saying a lot for a Trophy!). Road feedback from the Pilot Powers
is different as well, they are a much softer tire and you feel this when you
are riding, road cracks and surface irregularities don't feed back to the
bars. This lack of "Road Texture" feel does not mean that the tires are
numb, they just feel differently~ I had no issues with lack of feedback, and
I certainly won't be complaining about the smoother ride!

After 280 miles the tires do not look worn, merely "Scuffed" but time will
tell if the mileage will be acceptable- I really like these tires and I
would be willing to make the tradeoff of less mileage vs. higher
performance. I believe that these are actually a safer tire for the way that
I ride, as I did not manage to make them slide once yesterday, this would
not have been the case had I been on the Avons.

Phillip Koken
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Sunnyvale, California

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#46351 From: "brettmj2002" <brettmj@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 11:18 am
Subject: Re: Rear wheel 1200
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "brettmj2002" <brettmj@o...>
wrote:


Brett from Australia again, does anyone know if 1996 rear Trophy 1200
wheel will fit a 92 1200????
This is the year (1996) they changed from 18" to 17 "Regards Brett L.

#46352 From: "John Parmer" <johnparmer@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Rear Tire size
dialh4hero
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I fit a 180 on my '95 Trophy 900 with no problem, but also without any
noticeable benefit.  It looks fatter, and if that's what you want, go
for it for a few dollars more.  However, the Trophy was spec'd for 170
and I've gone back to that size.

- JP

#46353 From: "Robert" <robert_rawson@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: Sat Nav and Intercoms (UK)
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "taylorrguk" <rgtay@t...>
wrote:

> Snap - and you've seen mine in action remember?

Yes but thankfully I have not had to use mine.
>

> Good to hear from you Rob, where've you been these last ~2years?


You too, Internet has been on the back burner these past months as
far as group activity goes. I no longer receive posts but check in
every now and again.


Still planning my Exodus to the Island of Mauritius and if all well
probably moving around 2009 with Trophy in the container?!

Bike still running well and I must be one of the few whose coils
havn't failed yet. Touch wood the only problems I have had since
purchase have been fuel starvation problems but I have since
replaced all the rubber pipes. There just isn't enough room under
there for so many.

no plans to change anything from standard at the moment although
with a man of my size I should consider a suspension upgrade but we
will have to see.

How did you get on with your RHA's have you tested them yet?

Regards
Officer R

#46354 From: "Tom" <motoworld2001@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Sat Nav and Intercoms (UK)
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <robert_rawson@y...> wrote:
> --- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "taylorrguk" <rgtay@t...>
> wrote:

> > Good to hear from you Rob, where've you been these last ~2years?
>
> Still planning my Exodus to the Island of Mauritius and if all well
> probably moving around 2009 with Trophy in the container?!
>
> Bike still running well
I should consider a suspension upgrade but we
> will have to see.
> Regards
> Officer R

Officer R,
         It's been a real long time, great to hear that your plans are
still on-target. The front suspension upgrade would be of great
benefit to you, besides the ride quality would be greatly improved.
Try to chime in more often; your input has always been welcomed!!!
Best Regards
Tom Donovan

#46355 From: "Phil Smith" <pjsmithres@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
pjsmithres
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I went to look at these wonders and see why you like them.  If you
get ANY decent mileage then they will be VERY popular in this
forum.  I was surprised how much more groove and rubber are on there
for traction to the very edge.
Very sticky feeling and grooved down to the belts.
What size did you mount?
Also the local Honda guy had the rear 180/55/17 for $135.  No front
in stock.

Phil

> I went out and did some "testing" yesterday of my new Pilot
Powers, and I am
> impressed.
>
> http://www.koken.org/phillip/triumph/tire_testing.jpg
>
> These tires are the best tires I have ever ridden on any
motorcycle-
>
> There is no shortage of traction available with the new tires, and
turn in
> is a quite a bit quicker than with the Avons (which were quicker
than the
> BT020) and initially that bothered me.

#46356 From: "Phillip Koken" <phil@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 11:20 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
philkoken
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Stock Trophy Sizing / 120 & 170 I could have done a 180... But why?

BTW, you CAN beat that price!


Phillip Koken
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Sunnyvale, California

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#46357 From: "Garland Arnett, Jr." <garlandarnett@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 1:18 am
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2881
gararnett
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>Message: 2
>    Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:05:39 -0000
>    From: "Rob Sherman" <rsherm@...>
>Subject: Re: Fork Spring Upgrade Quest
>
>Scott,
>
>I just completed a Racetech upgrade to my '99 900 Trophy this past
>weekend. I went with the .95kg springs and also installed the cartridge
>emulators. HUGE improvement over stock. I'm 5'9" and weigh about
>180lbs. The ride is firm yet compliant with little brake dive. No
>fitment issues and a fairly simple job. I also did seals and bushings
>since I had everything apart.
>
>Rob
>
>'99 Trophy 900
>'76 Moto Guzzi LeMans 850
>'94 Kawasaki KDX200


I would also note that the Progresives are a progressive wind, being soft
initially but getting stiffer as they compress. I would also note that the
sag of bike and rider take up most of the really soft stuff in the spring. I
don't have them, and the Hagons fork springs are essentially the same. Race
Techs are straight rate and have a more linear feel. I have 1.0 kg, without
the emulators. I may get the emulators in a year or so to help stiffen 'em a
little more.

Gar Arnett, Jr.
1995 BRG 1200
The Hillbilly Nation

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#46358 From: "sdwebmail" <sdwebmail@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 4:13 am
Subject: Alternator Bolt?
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Has anybody had to have their alternator bolt replaced. The reason I'm
asking is that my engine sometimes has a very bad mechanical knock at
tickover (carbs are balanced ok and everything is fine above 1500rpm or
under load) and I'm wondering if the alternator bolt has given up the
ghost after reading the FAQ's. Any input from anyone with experience of
this problem would be most welcome.
many thanks

Stewart
'96, 1200, Scotland

#46359 From: "edgrodzki" <egrodzki@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Alternator Bolt?
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I had to tighten up the alt. bolt on my 98 sprint, when it came loose
again i put a small lock washer on and some lock-tight and so far no
more problems. I think in the FAQ section of this group there is some
information about replacement bolts after a certain VIN# from the
dealer. Mine had the right bolt, just kept backing off, pretty sure
they had a problem with the bolt shearing.  Ed.  --- In
TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "sdwebmail" <sdwebmail@y...> wrote:
> Has anybody had to have their alternator bolt replaced. The reason
I'm
> asking is that my engine sometimes has a very bad mechanical knock
at
> tickover (carbs are balanced ok and everything is fine above 1500rpm
or
> under load) and I'm wondering if the alternator bolt has given up
the
> ghost after reading the FAQ's. Any input from anyone with experience
of
> this problem would be most welcome.
> many thanks
>
> Stewart
> '96, 1200, Scotland

#46360 From: "Phil Smith" <pjsmithres@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Alternator Bolt?
pjsmithres
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Caution.  If it's not loose, a too tight bolt will snap off and then
you'll be digging out the stub!

Since the recall was probably done to yours it's unlikely.  does the
bolt resemble the one described?


This may just be the Trophy rattle.  Sounds like a noise somewhere
between a loose diesel at idle and a metal tool box full of crescent
wrenches being shaken.  Not cyclic or continuous, but annoying none
the less.

In my car, this noise would have returned it to dealer for a new one.

It does tend to be at idle or just above and is more noisy when it
is cold/cool.  I don't notice it much after the first few miles and
it's warm or above 2K.


The reason I'm
> asking is that my engine sometimes has a very bad mechanical knock
at
> tickover (carbs are balanced ok and everything is fine above
1500rpm or
> under load) and I'm wondering if the alternator bolt has given up
the
> ghost after reading the FAQ's. Any input from anyone with
experience of
> this problem would be most welcome.
> many thanks
>
> Stewart
> '96, 1200, Scotland

#46361 From: "lgl12356" <lglamb@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: Alternator Bolt?
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Smith"
<pjsmithres@a...> wrote:
>
[[]]
>
> This may just be the Trophy rattle.  Sounds like a noise
somewhere
> between a loose diesel at idle and a metal tool box full of
crescent
> wrenches being shaken.  Not cyclic or continuous, but annoying
none
> the less.
>


Most all of us are thinking the same thing, of course.

Only thing that may be of concern is that the original
poster said "sometimes".


>
>
> The reason I'm
> > asking is that my engine sometimes has a very bad mechanical
knock  at  tickover
> >
> > Stewart
> > '96, 1200, Scotland

#46362 From: "Neil Christie" <nchristie@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 3:32 pm
Subject: Ride Report - Climey Crud Run
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Anyone ever read about the Slimy Crud Run in a Peter Egan column
(Motorcyclist? Cycle World? I forget...) Anyway, that is up here (just
west of Madison WI, about 60 miles from me?), and it was yesterday. I
heard about it through the STNet region 4 board.

I had no idea what to expect....so, I agreed to meet up with three other
guys at a restaurant about 25 miles from me and ride out. Gonna meet
them at 7:30 AM.

Running a little late - took me 15 minutes to get dressed (felt like a
little kid getting ready to to go sledding) - riding shorts, T-shirt,
socks, thin khaki's, riding boots, electric trouser liners, electric
jacket liner, connect the two, FIrstGear trousers, FirstGear jacket,
helmet, glasses, electric gloves, connect to liner, tankbag to bike,
connect everything to bike, and like that - away I go. Oh, and it's
cloudy and 34 degrees, partly cloudy.

Since I'm running late (it's 7AM now - and the meeting place is 45
minutes away), I figure I'll skip breakfast, and gas up when I get to
them, so we'll all be ready to leave at the same time.

Wish I'd remembered my earplugs - and the neck warmer thing (my chin is
cold). BUT, the Gerbing Trousers-Jacket-Gloves are pure magic. Very
happy my wife bought them for me. I will repeat this thought many, many
times today.

Heading west, I-94, between Milwaukee and Madison. I observe that the
clouds AHEAD of me are thicker and darker than those BEHIND me. Still a
bit cool - Like the Gerbings.

Get to the appointed meeting place, and find a close gas station - about
six bikes are there already. Gas up, ask one if they're doing the Slimy
Crud, and they are. Going, that is. Friendly, middle-aged mostly
out-of-shape guys - so I'll fit in just fine. Eclectic bikes - the
leader of this small group is Jeff - a big (6'5"?) guy, cop (supervisor
/ senior level), and on a Hayabusa. That he's tuned up for more oomph.
Another guy is older - 60? - in shape, races cars (open wheel), on an
Aprilia. Not the cheap one, either - it's the signature series. Tires
are fullly scrubbed in. There's an R-1150 GS. A Honda CX(?)-500 (water
cooled transverse V-twin) with the mufflers cut off the stock pipes -
and a Vetter fairing held on by rusted screws. A new Honda Magna - 50%
black, 50% chrome. Some others. My Trophy. Maybe 15 in all.

Take off - decent pace, roads are mostly gentle sweeps / straight and
low rolling hills. Not bad at all. They like to ride closer than I like
- as in, sometimes side-by-side. I back off and maintain the interval /
stagger.

Starts to rain - OK, just tuck in behind the fairing a bit more, and
turn up the controller on the Gerbing. Hmmmm - goood.

GOOD NEWS - stopped raining - because it turned to snow. No shit - not a
blizzard, but it IS snowing, and these 15 bikes are running on a country
two-lane, tight formation, between cow pastures and such, in the snow.
Don't know which is weirder - that I'm doing it, or that I'm enjoying
it. Mr. Gerbing should be knighted.

Snow tapers off, we get to our stop - Hot Rod's. Looks like a bike
dealer - about 50 bikes parked outside. It's about 10:00 AM on Sunday.
Turns out, the Slimey Crud run is a Big Event, and our little jaunt was
a small group of people riding to the start point - this is it. It's not
a dealer - it's a bar - and the bikes parked outside are other Slimey
Crud Runners - cool.

So, I go inside. They're out of coffee and hot chocolate - so, what the
hell, I get a couple of brats (bratwurst - like a cross between a mild
Italian sausage and a hot dog) and some chips and a local draft beer.
Eat, talk, etc. inside this big bar, as riders filter in, eating and
drinking bloody mary's and talking - but some are disappearing into a
door in the back corner. My curiosity aroused, I finish eating and go
through the door, too.

There's a dim room, a stage, and strippers bumping and grinding and
gyrating. Now, these aren't bikini dancers, nor are they g-stringers.
Nosiree, there here are real, honest-to-goodness, rural midwestern
get-nekkid-and-spread-em strippers, I tell you.

Summary so far - it's 10:30 AM on a Sunday morning, and I rode my
motorcycle in the snow to a bar, where I've had a beer and a couple of
bratwurst and am now looking at naked women dance for money. Welcome to
Wisconsin, eh?

OK - I only stay a short time (it's a bit surreal, actually) and
contribute my $1 to the local economy, then head back outside. Holy
Crap! The parking lot is FULL - as in, can only walk single file between
bikes - of bikes. So is the lot next door on either side. And the street
is lined, too. Must be 350 bikes here - of every size, shape, and
flavor. Everything from a rat-race TZ350 (the lights and street-lagal
controls are duct-taped on) to a Rocket III. Harley's, clones, sport
bikes, rat bikes, new bikes, old bikes, a Ural with a sidecar,
everything. Spend about 30 minutes looking at everything, sometimes
drooling, sometimes shaking my head and chuckling. It starts to snow
again, and that's the signal for our little group to form up and take
off to Point B.

Take off, get gas, ride through some pretty nice roads and good curves,
in the snow. I decide to name my next child Gerbing.

Get to Point B. I believe the town name was middleoffreakingnowhere, WI.
Winding country road, with a gravel lot and small bar-like building on
one side, a bigger gereral-store like building on the other. We pull in
and join the 100+ other bikes in the gravel / grass / dirt. The local
Rotary / VFW / KKK was selling BBQ sandwhiches and brats under a tent,
but rumor is the ex-general store has hot cocoa and coffee. As I walk up
the creaky wooden steps, I see many redneck-like decals on the door -
Ruger, Game Check Station, etc. Gee, I should feel right at home
here....

Entering the room, it WAS a gerneral store, maybe 80 years ago. It is
now a bar. And a game check station. And a firearms dealer. Get my
cocoa, and look around - yeppers, you could buy a beer and a Browning,
one-stop shopping. Cool - I'm gonna like it here.

More bikes show up, bikes are everywhere. More yacking, ogling, etc.

About 2:00, our little group decides to head out. On cue, starts snowing
again. We all agree snow is better than rain, because you stay drier.
The group leader is going to look into a volume discount from Gerbing.
Leave, nice ride back, back roads, snow tapers off, we stop for gas.
Pretty much break up there, and I peel off and hop onto the interstate -
bang out about 60 miles at 80-90 MPH, enjoying the acceleration of the
Trophy (going 75 behind a car, they pull over and twist the throttle - I
love that 75-to-90+ surge) almost as much as the controller from Saint
Gerbing.

Get home about 5:30 PM - only 256 miles, but some of it slow. Met some
good people, saw some very interesting bikes, got out of the geographic
bachelor apartment. The rain and snow even kept the bike clean. The few
banks / etc. we passed with displays - never saw temps above 42 degrees.
A Very Good Day.

Gotta go now - I need to find Mr. Gerbing so I can offer my services as
a love-slave.

Neil


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#46363 From: "Phillip Koken" <phil@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 6:27 pm
Subject: Going Slow
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I uploaded a picture to the group which demonstrates the proper use of a
Trophy.

Phillip Koken
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#46364 From: "Robert" <robert_rawson@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 7:02 pm
Subject: Plans on Target
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> .............still on-target. The front suspension upgrade would
be of great benefit to you, besides the ride quality would be
greatly improved.

> Try to chime in more often; your input has always been welcomed!!!
> Best Regards
> Tom Donovan

Nice to hear from you too.

As i mentioned in the previous post, i have not suffered any major
problems with the bike but I did  negate to add i had an acciddent
on it at 60MPH where i hit a dog of all things on the M621 motorway
neer Leeds United Stadium.

I was coming round a bend and saw what i thought to be 2 black bin
bags blowing in the road. On a somewhat shorter and closer
inspection it turned out to be two roaming dogs playing chicken.

I sounded the horn which is as much use as the ashtray I have fitted
on the bike, swerved to the right to avoid hitting them but they
fleed in opposing directions casing me to hit one. I guess he won
that game of chicken!

Fortunately the impact was on the offside, taking out the good old
indicator (still taped from the Lake District blow over), the front
mudguard and the lower fairing panel. I however was more fortunate
and didn't fall off.

I guess it is true to say you never know what is around the next
corner.

Insurance despite lack of claims or accidents is very costly here
and very much dependent on post code loading. In your language it is
like saying people in Zip 48170 (Plymouth MI) have a higher risk of
a claim than someone living in 48185 (Westland MI) even though they
are relatively close to each other. My personal excess contributions
are therefore higher to keep the premiums down. A claim against an
unknown dog owner was therefore a non starter so i decided to
collate and collect components from ebay over a period of months.

I am now sporting a 1998 lower panel on the offside and a 2000 panel
on the nearside (minus the Trophy logo). It looks a little odd but
for the untrained eye it is OK.Tyhankfully though the black
insulating tape temporary repair to the indicaterr has been at last
repaired.

As the accident involved an animal, it was manatory to report it to
the Police and disclose it when applying to renew my insurance.

Here is a warning to the British amonst you.... I made no claim at
all during this accident but disclosed it on insurance renewal. My
Policy was loaded as a non fault claim . They informed me it was
only £15 but that is not the point. If I didn't come off in such
an
accident, why does that mean I am a future liability and be
penalised for something that quite clearly was not my fault.

Maintenance wise all is on track and OK just need to get a parts CD
(fische) now as I need new brake pins (just not hard enough to get
out at all)and a series of seals and O rings.

Hope all is well with everyone in the group.

Regards

Robert Rawson
Leeds UK

#46365 From: "nicko990" <nick.hill6@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: Alternator Bolt?
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "sdwebmail" <sdwebmail@y...>
wrote:
> Has anybody had to have their alternator bolt replaced. The reason
I'm
> asking is that my engine sometimes has a very bad mechanical knock
at
> tickover (carbs are balanced ok and everything is fine above
1500rpm or
> under load) and I'm wondering if the alternator bolt has given up
the
> ghost after reading the FAQ's. Any input from anyone with
experience of
> this problem would be most welcome.
> many thanks
>
> Stewart
> '96, 1200, Scotland


Guys,

Had all sorts of trouble with the alternator bolt on my 900:

At about 20k it started to make the noise.  Pulled alternator and
tightened the bolt.  A few thou later the rattle started again.
This time the bolt had snapped.

I ran it for around another 18k with no bolt but tried various
remedies - loctite, araldite etc - and even completed a 4 thousand
mile tour like this.

In the end I got fed up with it and had a local engineering shop
drill out the broken piece and replaced both the bolt and the drive
flange (paddle its called in the parts book).  That lasted about
another 5k before the racket started up again.

About a year ago I took it apart yet again and had the flange welded
onto the alternator shaft.  All has been quiet ever since - around
another 10k so far - and paying the guy a fiver to do the job sure
beat the 500(ish) gbp for a new one.

Incidentally, during the worst of the rattles, the vibes also
increased with a particular vengance around three thousand revs when
pulling hard.


Nicko - '99 BRG Sprint Exec.

#46366 From: "taylorrguk" <rgtay@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 7:38 pm
Subject: Re: Sat Nav and Intercoms (UK)
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <robert_rawson@y...> wrote:


>
> How did you get on with your RHA's have you tested them yet?
>

You HAVE been away a long time!
Rear ride height adjusters fitted ~18 months ago, & function EXACTLY
as intended. E.G. Did 150 miles today, including lots of twistys, with
Mrs T on the back + luggage(& a new Avon ST46); & ride, handling, etc
were brilliant.
This is with the Std. shock at max peload, & the RHA's set to +35mm.
Mik's other customers have also reported extreme satisfaction.
I would definitely reccomend you trying them, especially if taking Mrs R?
If you decide to get a set, I'd be happy to fit them for you?

Richard T.

#46367 From: "taylorrguk" <rgtay@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: Plans on Target
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <robert_rawson@y...> wrote:

  why does that mean I am a future liability and be
> penalised for something that quite clearly was not my fault.

That's bike insurance for you , you're damned if you do, and damned if
you don't! The words 'short' and 'curly' spring to mind?  ;-)

>
> Maintenance wise all is on track and OK just need to get a parts CD
> (fische) now as I need new brake pins (just not hard enough to get
> out at all)and a series of seals and O rings.
>

I have a set of redundant standard front calipers sitting in my
garage, complete with stainless hex-head retaining pins? (Replaced
them with 6-pots)

Richard T.

#46368 From: Randall Rolling <bpdrolling@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 8:01 pm
Subject: Saturday Ride
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This past Saturday the wife and I took a ride. We
headed East on Highway 60 to Vero Beach. Along the way
we stopped for a break and met a older British
Gentleman. He can over to look at our Trophy. He
explained he can see the Triumph factory from his
home. He was excited to come to the States for a visit
and see a bike that reminded him of home. After he
took a few pictures we wished him well and was on our
way.
Once we reached Vero Beach we turned North on A1A and
road along the coast.
Reaching Coco Beach we made a stop to visit the Ron
Jon surf shop. The wife looked at a few bathing suits
that we couldn't afford and then we hit the road.
Reaching Port Canaveral, we turned back West to head
home.
Just outside Orlando we took a break with three Harley
riders. One of them was eating and then jumped up and
said, "Oh my God! Is that a Triumph?" He then came
over and started admiring our bike. He road Triumphs
when he was young and had never seen a Trophy. It was
odd being the center of attention among Harley riders.
One of which was waiting for a truck due to problems
with his bike.
After about 300 miles we returned home. It was a nice
sunny, mild weather day, a little breezy. The only
problem I had was my speed o-meter cable came loose
once. It was a good day.

Randy
'01 Trophy 1200
'03 Honda CRF230

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#46369 From: Steve Wassenich <wassensf@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: Going Slow
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Phillip Koken wrote:

> I uploaded a picture to the group which demonstrates the proper use of
> a
> Trophy.

Woo hoo, turn and burn!  Yank it, bank it, and crank it!

Looks about right to me.  :-)

Steve W.

#46370 From: "simonjrwinter" <simonjrwinter@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Buzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I get that as well, mainly in the right grip.
Please let me know if you find a solution.
Simon

--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Smith" <pjsmithres@a...>
wrote:
> I took a little ride to LA yesterday and The trophy is developing a
> buzz in the right handgrip.
> ...2001 trophy 1200 BBBB...
>
> At about the 4500-5500 rpm on cruise on the interstate the right hand
> grip gets a buzz going that puts a finger or two to sleep.  Still
> there at higher RPM, but not as noticable.
> It is not felt in the left side and no other odd buzz or noise felt in
> the bike/engine.
>
> I have tried to loosen MY grip on the throttle and it's not affected.
> I do have the friction twist "cruise control" on the hand grip.  (I
> can't see that it has any affect to the buzz).
>
> The throttle (SIDE) is connected to the carbs and there could be a
> resonant buzz coming up the throttle cable?, but that seems a little
> far fetched.  Also if the carbs are creating the buzz it would go up
> the choke side and buzz the left, too?
>
> A friend said the DOHC 4 has a normal buzz and it's the way the trophy
> will run.  If that's the case I go back to the why is it only on the
> throttle side.
>
> What about the balance adjusters?
>
> Everything else that could be on the bike should transmit to the whole
> bike.  Unbalanced tire.  Loose parts, etc.
>
> I'm changing tires, sprockets 19/40 and chain next week and will
> eliminate that possibility during inspection.
>
> Any ideas as to the bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?
>
>
> Phil

#46371 From: richard hartwick <rhartwick@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 10:08 pm
Subject: Found the Ferodo's
rickh1001
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Tom, Waltho, Phil and others,

Thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction to find Ferodo
pads.  The braketech.com website was the one. Funny, I had come across
that site once before, but since they don't really have an on-line
catalog, I didn't think I could order from them.  I called them, and
they had the correct application.  I ordered the HH sintered pads - hope
I don't wind up doing 2-finger stoppies between the 6-pot calipers and
the new pads.  Also, the guy that took my order was amazed that the
"Busa calipers were a straight bolt-on with the Trophy.  I had to
convince him that it was true, as he really didn't believe me at first.
Of course, he didn't believe me when I told him the 900 Trophy was
faster than the 'Busa either, but I didn't push the issue.  Anyway, the
new pads are on order, and I will let the list know the results when I
try them out.  Thanks again for all the help.

rick hartwick
00 Trophy 900

#46372 From: John Elliott <ninetennis@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
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Phil,
I totally agree about the initial "turn in" being quick.  But, once I got used
to it (just like you....50 miles) everything seemed to fall into place (so to
speak).

As far as "road feedback" you are right on.  On familiar road yesterday, I rode
across some of those nasty little cracks etc. and found the bike just gliding
over them with minimal feedback.

Out of curiousity what PSI are you sticking with?
Front: 36
Rear: 41

Hopefully, we will be getting a gazillion miles out of this set of Pilot Powers
(hey, a guy can wish...right?)

John E.

95, BRG, BBBB
Castro Valley, CA


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Phillip Koken <phil@...> wrote:
These tires are the best tires I have ever ridden on any motorcycle-

There is no shortage of traction available with the new tires, and turn in
is a quite a bit quicker than with the Avons (which were quicker than the
BT020) and initially that bothered me. At the beginning of the ride I felt
like I was learning the bike again, as I would overdo my steering inputs
making for wavy lines through corners. Within 50 miles I got it all figured
out, and now I really like the way the bike handles- almost effortless
(which is saying a lot for a Trophy!). Road feedback from the Pilot Powers
is different as well, they are a much softer tire and you feel this when you
are riding, road cracks and surface irregularities don't feed back to the
bars.
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#46373 From: "Phillip Koken" <phil@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 11:29 pm
Subject: RE: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
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I decided to scrub them in at 36F 42R with my mind set on testing 40F now
that they are broken in... If it feels weird I'll drop back down a bit at a
time until find the highest front pressure I can use without sacrificing
traction.

The turn in really is a LOT different than any other tire I have ridden on,
very very fast- However now that I am used to it, I think that this kind of
handling is much better than what I had previously. The bike is still ROCK
stable, and I experimented with hands off of the bars at many different
speeds to see if I could get any shake going~ nothing happened except
straight and true tracking. Be aware if you run these tires that the first
few corners are going to be interesting :)

Here is a picture of a hands off stability test in action
Two thumbs up!
http://urltron.com/UD

Phillip Koken
http://www.koken.org/
Sunnyvale, California

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YIM: philkoken ICQ: 456807

#46374 From: "Tom" <motoworld2001@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 12:10 am
Subject: Re: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
motoworld2001
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--- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Phillip Koken" <phil@k...> wrote:

> The turn in really is a LOT different than any other tire I have
ridden on,
> very very fast- However now that I am used to it, I think that this
kind of
> handling is much better than what I had previously. The bike is
still ROCK
> stable,
> Two thumbs up!
> http://urltron.com/UD
>
> Phillip Koken
> http://www.koken.org/
> Sunnyvale, California
>
> AIM: philkoken MSN: phil@k...
> YIM: philkoken ICQ: 456807

Phil,
      I really enjoy reading your posts about the tires, suspension,
etc. But what I am really waiting for, is for you to install a PENSKE
rear shock. Once you have the dampening fully adjusted, the words you
will be able to write will read like a fantastic short story about
your favorite character!!!! The difference that it made on my machine
was unbelievable. Talk about a machine that is compliant in the
twisties.
Tom D.

#46375 From: John Elliott <ninetennis@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 12:57 am
Subject: RE: Pilot Powers, the first 280 miles
ninetennis
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Phil,
Keep me informed about how this goes.  I'm going to stick with the 36F and the
41R for now.  I'm interested as to what your findings with the 40F will be.
Thanks,
John E. 95, BRG, BBBB
Castro Valley, CA


Phillip Koken <phil@...> wrote:
I decided to scrub them in at 36F 42R with my mind set on testing 40F now
that they are broken in...

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#46376 From: "John Parmer" <johnparmer@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 1:02 am
Subject: Rear Wheel Jiggle?
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My rear wheel has some side-to-side play when jiggling it by hand.  The
shop manual mentions there should be no "float" else the bearings need
replacing.  Is float British for jiggle?  Any recommendations for where
to buy wheel bearings other than Triumph dealer?

- JP
'95 BRG 900

#46377 From: Alex Diaz <alexdz@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Re: Buzzzzzzzzzzzz
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That's really weird, just today I noticed that my BBB had suddenly
developed an annoying little buzz on the throttle side!  I do mean just
today, as after replacing the Concours with this bike I was very
sensitive to ANY vibration.  It's enough to actually make my hand
tingle.  I'm thinking carb synch right now, as that was one of the
popular solutions, I mean, mitigators for the Connie buzz (nothing
really cured it).  Any reviews I've read on this bike always praised
it's smoothness at any real-world speed, so I consider it unusual.

I'm getting ready for the long ride in a couple of weeks and will try to
get it done before then and report back.  Would love to hear of any
other possibilities.

Alex Diaz
'00 Trophy 900
Fairfax, VA

simonjrwinter wrote:

> I get that as well, mainly in the right grip.
> Please let me know if you find a solution.
> Simon
>
> --- In TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Smith" <pjsmithres@a...>
> wrote:
> > I took a little ride to LA yesterday and The trophy is developing a
> > buzz in the right handgrip.
> > ...2001 trophy 1200 BBBB...
> >
> > At about the 4500-5500 rpm on cruise on the interstate the right hand
> > grip gets a buzz going that puts a finger or two to sleep.  Still
> > there at higher RPM, but not as noticable.
> > It is not felt in the left side and no other odd buzz or noise felt in
> > the bike/engine.

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#46378 From: "xs1100g" <xs1100g@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 1:19 am
Subject: RE: Rear Wheel Jiggle?
mrsixtysix
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If you rear wheel is moving anyway but around in a circle, stop riding it
immediately, something is screwed! (American word for float!)



I replaced the rear wheel bearings in my 2000; they are all common bearings
that can be had fairly cheap at any bearing supplier. I had to pull them to
get the number off them though. I got the seals from Triumph, they were
cheap at $2-$3 each.



I am not sure of the number for yours but I posted the info for a 2000 here
around August of 2004.



Gary





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On Behalf Of John Parmer
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To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Rear Wheel Jiggle?



My rear wheel has some side-to-side play when jiggling it by hand.  The
shop manual mentions there should be no "float" else the bearings need
replacing.  Is float British for jiggle?  Any recommendations for where
to buy wheel bearings other than Triumph dealer?

- JP
'95 BRG 900





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#46379 From: Alex Diaz <alexdz@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 1:20 am
Subject: Re: Re:Scenic route ideas between VA and Niagara Falls
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Sorry it's taken me so long to reply, but haven't had time to read list
email for some time--I've got over 2,800 unread messages in here!
Anyway, thank you for the phone offer, and thank you and the other
fellow for the route suggestions.  It looks as though right now we're
going to take a route that's further east in PA, so won't ask for your
contact info now, but will try to incorporate some of the roads on the
other note.

Likewise, anybody coming through Northern Virginia anytime is welcome to
my contact info for any assistance I can provide!

Alex Diaz
'00 Trophy 900
Fairfax, VA

AJ Turner wrote:

> Well, if you want to stay away from the Interstates, then you can
> pick-up US
> Route 19 down in West Virginia and take it all the way to Erie, PA.  It
> roughly follows I-79 just a few miles to the West of it,  so you can hop
> over to I-79 if it gets too tedious and you'd have the motels and service
> stations along there in case of any breakdowns.  From Erie, it's a
> short hop
> up to Buffalo and Niagara Falls.  Rt 19 is also known as Perry Highway -
> named after Admiral Perry from  the War of 1812.

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