HI All, I have just took delivery of my new 2002 trophy (after my
last one got nicked), the question is that this one seems to throw
water and dirt all over the back of the pillion passenger (I never
noticed it on the 1997 model).

I've had a look round to find an extension for the rear guard but to
no avail can anyone help and point me in the right direction.

regards Flowerbed

>I think it's a function of Winter, Ken.  The Aussies and Kiwis are
probably out riding,<

Nope - definitely out riding. 22c Bright sunshine -  monthly RAT
ride. Delightful. Trophy hammering.
Coast to coast just South of Auckland - Hauraki Gulf was the
most amazing Tropical blue against  the 'Irish' green countryside
and the Coromandels (Mountain Range Peninsula) in the
distance looked quite spectacular as we dropped down the hill
to Miranda.
Great Day

>while we in the northern hemisphere have more idle hands.<
It's been a mildly amusing 'contest'

Dave Cohen

In a message dated 29/11/2002 02:16:24 GMT Standard Time,
motoworld2001@... writes:


> John,
>      I never did read those stats! Where are they printed?
>               Tom D. USA
>

UK Motorcycle Magazines Bike, Super Bike and Ride. If you can bare wuith me I
can scan and email you.
I have some good stuff on Both Trophy's in the the Essential Super Bike
periodical. Has everything from pictures of the frame, sectioned Engine speed
trials ect....
Anyone else interested. I will put it in the file section if I can find out
how to get it on ther : (
Cofion (regards)
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Thanks for your input John.

I should have explained, the power supply for the grips is taken from the spare
multiplug on the main harness.

The purpose, according to the instructions, of the brake light switch is:

"Switching for the handlebar grips relay is to be taken from the front right
brake light switch"

Also, I think I was wrong to describe the 2 black wires as neutrals - I actually
think the correct term is switched lives.

Anyway I now have the grips working. In fact I think they were actually working
all along - but because I was expecting the switch to light up, and it didn't -
I thought it was dead (idiotically I didn't think to feel the grips to see if
they got hot!) .

I am not out of the woods however. Now the brake light stays on all the time!!

Any ideas as to why this is would be welcome. I can't help feeling it must be
something really simple - but my brain (simple as it is) cannot fathom it at
present.

All the best

Terry


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At 11:43 01/12/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >I think it's a function of Winter, Ken.  The Aussies and Kiwis are
>probably out riding,<
>
>Nope - definitely out riding. 22c Bright sunshine -

David your a barsteward  ! no offence ;p)

~Steve~
Scotland
5c wet n wintry

>
> I've had a look round to find an extension for the rear guard but
to
> no avail can anyone help and point me in the right direction.
>
> regards Flowerbed.       <SNIP>

Flowerbed?

Triumph do a front and rear mudguard extender, try your local dealer
or send for one mail order.www.onyertriumph.net. Sorry about url, not
pc literate yet!


Mick,01 1200 azure blue (the fast one)Lancs,UK.

In the real world dont think you would miss the 4th pot, unless your a fat
barsteward.
HTH
~Steve~

And....your point?
Ed

In a message dated 01/12/2002 08:57:28 GMT Standard Time,
taylork@... writes:


> I've had a look round to find an extension for the rear guard but to
> no avail can anyone help and point me in the right direction.
>
> regards Flowerbed
>
>

M7P in Swansea.. <A HREF="http://www.mandp.co.uk/frameset.htm">M & P
Motorcycles</A>
Cofion (regards)
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Tom D. 1999 BRG, the FASTEST COLOUR OF ALL!!!
How does it go: "British RACING Green", I never hear them say
Britsh Racing Red, Blue, Merlot, or even Platinum. So this has proved
my theory beyond question, it is fact! So as we say it in the US, put
that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!!!!

Hey, they call it BRG even if they paint it on yugo.  Their very proud of
that color, has something to due with fast leprechauns but not fast
motorcycles. Ed

Hi,
    When I took delivery of my 2001 they had mud guard extensions for
both front and rear. I don't know the cost because they threw them in as
part of the deal.

flowerbed666 wrote:

>HI All, I have just took delivery of my new 2002 trophy (after my
>last one got nicked), the question is that this one seems to throw
>water and dirt all over the back of the pillion
>
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> Message: 14
>    Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:07:07 -0000
>    From: " Terry Richardson" <TRich@...>
> Subject: Re: Heated grips
>
> Hi everyone
> ...I have spent the day fitting Triumph heated grips. Although I have followed
the instructions to the letter - needless to say I cannot get them to work.
>
> The instructions say to use the front brakelight switch - taking the long
cable (containing a live and a neutral) from the sub harness (supplied with the
grips) to the brakelight switch and then connecting the live wire from the sub
harness to the live connection on the switch (which has been identified using a
test bulb) - and the neutral wire from the sub harness to the switch connection.
So you are supposed to end up with 2 lives and two neutrals all connected to the
brakelight
> switch....

Terry,

That doesn't sound right at all.  I just had the nose off the front of my bike
twice recently, and studied the wiring and the heated grips wiring while it was
off and visible.  I have an 00 Trophy like yours.  The heated grip power source
wire plugs into the accessory wire coming from the fuse box - the grips power
source wire is made to plug into it.  I can't remember the colo(u)rs but if you
look up under the nose piece (take the chin panel off obviously) and follow the
harness out of the
fuse box, you should find a free wire coming out of the harness with an
electical connection on it, which is the accessory fuse wire you want.  The hot
wire of the grips wiring shoulds simply plug into that - I forget where the
ground went.  All you need is the power and ground wires. There is no way
anything is routed through the brake light switch or anything.

The grips wiring is pretty simple.  The power goes to center terminal of the
switch.  In the "High" position, the power is fed out through a regular wire to
the two grips.  In the "Low" position, it is fed out instead through a
resistance wire (the brownish one) and then onto the grips, lowering the
voltage.  People have put rheostats in lieu of the resistance wire to better
control the heat levels.  I had always wanted to put a small pilot light into
the switch body, but having taken the
entire switch apart, could not find a way to do it.  An easy and attractive way
to make  a small pilot though is to just buy a small 12V LED - I found a nice
little one about 1/4" in diameter from Radio Shack.  Drill a small hole in the
panel near the switch to fit the LED, then just connect the positive LED wire to
either of the grip outlet terminals on the switch, the other side of the LED to
a ground.  I just stuck the bare wire over the terminal then forced the spade
over it, holding it
on quite tightly without soldering or anything.  It will then light up when the
switch is in either the Hi or Lo position, since the grip wiring is like a "Y",
where there will be voltage back to the switch on either leg of the Y, but one
leg is wired with the resistance wire, the other with the regular wire.  I am no
electrician, but it works fine, and looks kind of professional.  I am sure
someone on the list could figure out a way to put two LED's in, so only one lit
up on Lo, the other on
Hi.

Happy hunting there.  Give the list a holler is you get it sorted, and perhaps
you could post the wire colors and such for the archives.

Rick Hartwick
South New Berlin, NY
00 Trophy 900

Terry,

I have the Triumph heated grips fitted to my 1995 Trophy, was a kit for a 96
model that Triumph said could not be fitted, fitted fine with a little
modification.  Assuming the later kits are wired basically the same here is
how they work. The two wire harness (supplied with the kit) to the front
brake light switch is not for power, it is to deactivate the heated grips
when the brake is applied. This is keep from discharging the battery when
stopped. Seems that the alternator is not powerful enough at 300 watt. When
you apply the brake it activates the relay (supplied with the kit) to open
the circuit, deactivating the grips. Use a test light to figure out which
wire goes where. If you need details of the wire colors email me off list and
I will draw a schematic and email it to you.

Dave
fstrd@...
95 Trotona 1200


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There are no extensions for the rear.  Ed


Hi,
    When I took delivery of my 2001 they had mud guard extensions for
both front and rear. I don't know the cost because they threw them in as
part of the deal.

flowerbed666 wrote:

In a message dated 01/12/2002 15:11:53 GMT Standard Time, wale@...
writes:


> There are no extensions for the rear.  Ed
>
>

That's odd. I wonder whats hanging under my rear number plate? <g>
I got it from M7Ps for about £14 I like theirs because it does'nt stick out
backwards like the Triumph one.
Cofion (regards)
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For the new Trophy I cannot find a rear extension, even at the site you
recommended and Triumph does not make one for the 2000 - 2002. I have
already verified that. Ed


That's odd. I wonder whats hanging under my rear number plate? <g>
I got it from M7Ps for about £14 I like theirs because it does'nt stick out
backwards like the Triumph one.
Cofion (regards)
John Bonnewell Blue Knights England ll (Lloegr 2)

--- In TriumphTrophy@y..., " Terry Richardson" <TRich@F...> wrote:

> Anyway I now have the grips working.
>
> I am not out of the woods however. Now the brake light stays
> on all the time!!

Excellent, almost there!

I'm starting to understand now - I hadn't realised there was a relay,
not that it matters much for our purposes.

One of the black wires at the front brake light switch is live (with
ignition on) and this will feed the relay coil. T'other black wire at
the brake switch is indeed a switched live, and wanders off to the
brake light bulb, which is backed with earth. So when it gets 12V on
it, the bulb lights.

I suspect you've got the relay and/or grips earth (black) connected to
this wire, so that you're feeding 12V through the relay coil/grips
onto the brake light switched live, hence lighting the bulb.

The cure would be to find a proper earth for the wire presently
connected to the switched live. Job's a good 'un!

Just think - toasty fingers tomorrow!

John

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I hope these are of assistance. They are there somewhere because I have one
on my Trophy

Cofion (regards)
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Hello all,

  I have a 98 sprint executive and was wondering if
a stock Trophy seat would fit on it?  I have a
custom corbin and it is not comfortable for the
passenger, so I am looking to get a stock seat.

Thanks

Jon Geiger
Sunny Phoenix, AZ





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At 09:37 01/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I have a 98 sprint executive and was wondering if
>a stock Trophy seat would fit on it?  I have a
>custom corbin and it is not comfortable for the
>passenger, so I am looking to get a stock seat.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jon Geiger
>Sunny Phoenix, AZ

Should do Jon, as they have the same rear body work.
Mik and I swapped seats from my old Trophy a 92 model with his 99 model
Trophy (which has the same rear as the Sprint) perfect fit. If your unsure
ill try my seat on a friends Sprint Executive.
HTH
~Steve~

During a gear change, BWG3COY@...  penned ...
> <A HREF="http://www.thefastone.co.uk/">MPS</A>
[Snip]
>I hope these are of assistance. They are there somewhere because I have one
>on my Trophy
>Cofion (regards)


No doubt you are answering someone's question but as a stand alone email
(which is how I and countless others received it) it makes no sense what
so ever .... There is also no real need to enclose links in full
"anchor" tags either - it works but it is a bit clumsy for a text medium
like this list....
--
   Ò¿Ó   Dame Edna    : 1999 PB Trophy 4

During a gear change, thomas <indytriumph1@...>  penned ...
>> The colour thing is just a complete joke.
>>   Ò¿Ó   Dame Edna    : 1999 PB Trophy 4

>Hey Mik,
>I thought we all knew that, I myself was trying to be smart butt and
>play along.
>Thomas

I know, that was a double bluff with a little bluff on the side ...
;o)
--
   Ò¿Ó   Dame Edna    : 1999 PB Trophy 4

During a gear change, worskeletor@...  penned ...
><PRE>looking at 2nd hand bikes - is performance and economy much different?

There is more "grunt" in the 1200 and in my opinion (IMO) it is a
smoother bike to ride. It is heavier and it does drink slightly more
fuel per mile (reducing the tank range to about 155 miles) but the
feeling of power (especially when 2 up) is well worth the extra. The
1200 is still produced, the 900 was stopped in 2001 however apart from
the engine everything is the same.

In 1999 the Trophy was tuned differently to produce 108bhp at the crank
and to provide a smoother ride, earlier models provided 124bhp. Some
members of this group have added different profile camshafts and
exhausts (etc.) to achieve 145bhp.

I have a some examples of the differences on my website in the "models"
section of the "Trophy's" page.
<URL:http://www.saslimited.demon.co.uk/bike/newbike/>

They are both excellent bikes but the 1200 is better especially in blue
:o)
--
   Ò¿Ó   Dame Edna    : 1999 PB Trophy 4

My dealer, 3X Motorcycles in Dorset, UK, tells me that the Trophy has
reached the end of the road. He said that the small 2003 batch
produced in October/November 2002 are the last. The bike can no
longer meet all the required "eco rules".

Anyone got any real info on this?

Peter

During a gear change, Steve Kirk <mail@...>  penned ...
>>This list is about to return to being moderated unless the crap stops
>>forthwith.
>>Ken Hastie
>>List Administrator

>Its all Mik's fault Ken, just ask the other guys they'll back me up.
>~Steve~

It's always my fault - just ask the other guys they'll back me up too.
Does this mean i'm not getting a Christmas card ?
--
   Ò¿Ó   Dame Edna    : 1999 PB Trophy 4

There is one on ebay now for around $35.  Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Geiger [mailto:sprint900us@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:37 AM
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Triumph trophy seat



Hello all,

  I have a 98 sprint executive and was wondering if
a stock Trophy seat would fit on it?  I have a
custom corbin and it is not comfortable for the
passenger, so I am looking to get a stock seat.

Thanks

Jon Geiger
Sunny Phoenix, AZ





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I have one on my 2000 Trophy 1200 as well, it’s right in the 2001
Triumph accessory book (p21) part number A9701030, I bought mine
7/16/2001. Unless they stopped making them or something. I verified the
part number on my invoice as well. Price was $30 USD.





Gary

2000 BRG 1200



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Walden [mailto:wale@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:24 AM
To: TriumphTrophy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [TriumphTrophy] rear mudguard extension



For the new Trophy I cannot find a rear extension, even at the site you
recommended and Triumph does not make one for the 2000 - 2002. I have
already verified that. Ed


That's odd. I wonder whats hanging under my rear number plate? <g>
I got it from M7Ps for about £14 I like theirs because it does'nt stick
out
backwards like the Triumph one.
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"it makes no sense what
so ever .... There is also no real need to enclose links in full"

Come on Edwina _ lighten up _ after all this bullshine re. the fastest colour?
give the guy a break - HE was trying to help!
I new what he was on about - it was in the subject heading.

Please sort these lot out Ken !-)
Al '99 !1200 BRG (THE fastest colour!)


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I wonder if it is possible to create a new folder for this group,
a "Classified" folder? This way members who are selling their bikes
can list them on a designated location, keep the message folder clear
of "for sale" notices and give visiters to the site a specific place
to look at bikes for sale.
Mike

"it makes no sense what
so ever .... There is also no real need to enclose links in full"

Come on Edwina _ lighten up _ after all this bullshine re. the fastest
colour? give the guy a break - HE was trying to help!
I new what he was on about - it was in the subject heading.

Please sort these lot out Ken !-)
Al '99 !1200 BRG (THE fastest colour!)

That was not me (Ed).  I agree that someone is in need of help and you guys
are doing a good job.  I am not complaining or even objecting, that was Mik.
My name got attached because someone snipped incorrectly. Ken, let this get
thru so Al knows I did not start this. Ed

I highly recommend the Village Idiots mail list for posting crap.  It's
actually encouraged there.  Just motorcycles riders, mostly BMW, some
Triumph and others.  You can even get T Shirts :)  You can sub at:

village-idiots-request@...

C ya there!  (I think :-)



John O.
03 R1150RT Black
99 Trophy4 Platinum
IBA, MOA #62086
Village Idiot #?
Orlando, Florida USA



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