From: rick b <rickb62@...>
Subject: RE: [S6364JTN] Thanks for info......yep ..... more questions.........
To: s6364jtn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 10:03 PM

Hi Eric
 
This doesn't change anything, but my information is that there were 9 R2 4spds and 11 R2 automatics produced in Canada - all with disc brakes - none with the full "Super" package.
 
Rick
 

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To: S6364JTN@yahoogroup s.com
From: ejderosa@yahoo. com
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:01:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [S6364JTN] Thanks for info......yep ..... more questions... ......

Matt,   I did this on the fly, so I can not guarantee I am 100% accurate here; Using the criteria of only looking at 1963 Hawks which came with R2-4-speed & Disc Brakes, I find 131 cars produced in South Bend.  There were an additional 7 Hawks produced in Canada which had the R2 and a 4-speed, though I can not tell what brakes they had.  The SouthBend production would include "package" cars, which came standard with the discs. As far as survivors, my data is somewhat outdated, but I find that at the time, there were 51 1963 R2-4spd-disc brake Hawks accounted for from the South Bend production, and one R2-4spd Canadian built Hawk.  These were know survivors at the time, and could range from show cars to parts cars.   Others may have more accurate information; if I have time, I will try to double check my math later.   Eric --- On Mon, 6/22/09, xcelsior199 <kymanfrommars@ aol.com> wrote: From: xcelsior199 <kymanfrommars@ aol.com> Subject: [S6364JTN] Thanks for info......yep ..... more questions... ....... To: S6364JTN@yahoogroup s.com Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 10:05 PM Eric, That is my serial #. How many R2's had the 4 speed and disc brakes? Out of the original cars, how many of those are still on the road? In the fall of 1962, when did Studebaker start producing the '63's? I think the car companies didnt start the new production until Sept? Is that correct? Matt Owensboro,KY --- In S6364JTN@yahoogroup s.com, Eric Derosa <ejderosa@.. .> wrote: > > Matt, > > Assuming your car still has it's orginal engine #JTS1008, you have serial number 63v-1620, (white, 4-speed, disc brakes, R2) correct? If so, yours was the third R2 Hawk made. According to my roster from a few years ago, both of the prior two still survive. > R2 engine numbers started at JTS1001, while R1s started at JT1001. Remember, engines were not installed in order - earlier serial number cars might have a later engine number, and vise-versa There were a total of 21 JT-powered cars in total built before yours (Hawks and Larks, excluding Avantis) of which six were R2s > > Hope this helps, > > Eric > > --- On Mon, 6/22/09, xcelsior199 <kymanfrommars@ ...> wrote: > > > From: xcelsior199 <kymanfrommars@ ...> > Subject: [S6364JTN] Bob > To: S6364JTN@yahoogroup s.com > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 12:32 AM > > > > > > > > > A little mouse told me that you have all the production info. My R2 Hawk was produced 9/11/62. Yep early ...... early production. The engine # JTS1008 and I was told they started engine at JTS1005. Do you know as far as documented cars still accounted for, is mine the earliest Super Hawk still on the road? Matt >

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