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Re: [Prius-2G] Re: 'Fossil fuel' theory takes hit (HydroCarbons on Titan)

On 1/28/06, Cpt.Denny <petrinic@...> wrote:

> "Yet, EIA data show that worldwide reserves of oil are currently estimated
> at 1.2 trillion barrels (estimating Saudi reserves at 260 billion barrels),
> more than ever reported in human history, reflecting an unbroken
> progression
> of increasing numbers over the last quarter century of EIA estimates.
> ExxonMobil has issued statements recently suggesting that oil reserves
> worldwide might reach as high as 6 to 8 trillion barrels."
>
> See: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47081
>
> See:
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47159

Two comments.

Reserves do not directly correlate to the rate of oil production. The
us has perhaps
10 billion barrels or more left, but nothing we've been able to do has
changed the
declining production in the lower 48 since 1970. Given that we have the best
technology in oil exploration and production in the whole world, this should
tell you something about the limits of geology.

The EIA is often guilty of publicising its more optimistic predictions, probably
due to political pressures. Its predictions of reserves at the 95% probability
level are usually good, but those estimates are not the ones that get published.

OK, a 3rd observation. Although they say there is an "unbroken progression
of increasing numbers over the last quarter century of EIA estimates", there
has been an unbroken progression in the decline of oil that is being *found*
in the last 20-25 years. Its a simple fact, one that nobody really
wants to hear.
If you look at a graph of this, its pretty plain to see.
http://www.energybulletin.net/image/primer/discovery_gap.gif
To me, this is the crux of it. It doesn't matter where the oil comes from,
how its created, etc, etc, what matters is finding it and producing it.

dave



Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:42 am

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Don't you just love good news? http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47675 'Fossil fuel' theory takes hit with NASA finding New study shows methane on...
Cpt.Denny
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Jan 28, 2006
5:03 am

... * Dennis: Greetings! Anything that appears in the "WorldNet Daily (generally referred to on Usenet NewsGroups as "WingNut Daily") should be taken with a...
Earle Jones
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Jan 28, 2006
7:28 am

Thanks Dennis, is that really new news? Now are you ready for some real science? Not one mention of "fossil fuels" in any of these articles... ...
d0li0 Offline Send Email Jan 28, 2006
1:57 pm

... is real or not. I for one don't see how it could not be. hydrocarbon reserves are without a doubt finite resources, as such they are exaustable"<< Cpt....
Cpt.Denny
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Jan 28, 2006
2:21 pm

... * Dennis: Greetings (again) Where did those quotes come from? I refer to your statement that we are currently sitting on "more proven petroleum reserves...
Earle Jones
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Jan 28, 2006
7:50 pm

This is GREAT news! Now we can all sell our Prius's, burn all the methane we want, and to hell with the environment. (In case you didn't get that, it's...
Dan Murphy
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Jan 28, 2006
9:01 pm

... * Denny: Dick Smalley disagrees -- referring to a book, "Beyond Oil: The View from Hubbert's Peak by Professor Kenneth S. Deffeyes "Worldwide oil...
Earle Jones
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Jan 28, 2006
7:51 pm

M King Hubbert predicted that Oil production in the US would peak in the early 1970s and start to decline after that. The point at which oil production peaks...
Noel Adams
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Jan 31, 2006
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... Actually, according to the DOE commissioned report (Hirsch Report)<http://www.hilltoplancers.org/stories/hirsch0502.pdf>, we need to start 20 years in...
Dave Lewis
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Feb 1, 2006
12:40 am

... are currently sitting on "more proven petroleum reserves than ever ... Did that come from the people who claim that the major source of oil is...
Cpt.Denny
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Jan 29, 2006
4:07 am

... Two comments. Reserves do not directly correlate to the rate of oil production. The us has perhaps 10 billion barrels or more left, but nothing we've been...
Dave Lewis
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Jan 30, 2006
3:42 am

Isn't the real shortage economically producible oil? Or are prices being jacked up by the futures speculators? I read somewhere that they are the ones who are...
Jon Wilson
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Jan 31, 2006
10:27 pm

Jon W wrote:>>"Isn't the real shortage economically producible oil? Or are prices being jacked up by the futures speculators? I read somewhere that they are...
Cpt.Denny
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Feb 1, 2006
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... Guys, futures speculators are *supposed* to be jacking up the price of oil. That way, the hedgers (the producers...) can take *all* that money when they...
R. A. Hettinga
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Feb 1, 2006
2:07 am

... The presence of lage quantities of methane on a large number of the "gas giants" of the outer solar system, and their satellites is not news. I learned it...
Gary Novosielski
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Jan 28, 2006
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... Great! I'm sure that there is some study somewhere that says that people on Pluto have gills and breath carbon monoxide, which you would then use to prove...
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Jan 29, 2006
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