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OT- HCH hybrid AC- was-Re: Fw: Redesigned hybrid has flair

It's an interesting desgin. There is a great cutaway movie of the IMA system and
the AC
compressor here.

http://www.hondanews.com/CatID1000?mid=2005070636116&mime=asc

http://i.tnpv.us/tn/2005/07/06/i-VTEC_IMA.mov

Charlie Fosdick

.--- In Prius-2G@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <tclong@t...> wrote:
>
> --- In Prius-2G@yahoogroups.com, "densansmith" <junksmith33@c...> wrote:
> > "new-design air conditioner usually doesn't require the
> > gasoline engine to be running, as did the previous model"
> >
> > What is that supposed to mean?
>
> It means that the 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid has an "air conditioning
> system with two compressors that can operate independently or together
> with power from the gasoline engine or an internal electric motor".
>
> Under light demand it uses the small electric compressor. If demand is
> high, it energizes the clutch for the 2nd compressor which is belted to
> the engine in the traditional way. They work together.
>
> IMO it seems like it would be simpler to go the Prius route and make it
> all-electric. But I'm no expert and not an engineer and Honda has a
> reputation for thoroughly engineering their products, so I'm trusting
> them that this is the best solution for their particular product. IIRC,
> their battery's max capacity is too low to handle continuously running
> a single compressor with the required capacity.
>







Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:17 pm

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In case you haven't seen this article yet, here it is about the '06 Honda Civic Hybrid. I still think the current '05 Prius is better than this. IMHO. Mike 05...
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Sep 28, 2005
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"new-design air conditioner usually doesn't require the gasoline engine to be running, as did the previous model" What is that supposed to mean? A friend of...
densansmith
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Sep 28, 2005
1:58 pm

... It means that the 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid has an "air conditioning system with two compressors that can operate independently or together with power from...
Terry
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Sep 28, 2005
6:23 pm

It's an interesting desgin. There is a great cutaway movie of the IMA system and the AC compressor here. ...
chasfos
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Dec 14, 2005
10:18 pm

... It's still hybrid assist... not full hybrid....
Paul Lawler
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Dec 15, 2005
8:28 am

... Yet neither of them can not use gasoline. So let's not go calling the other hybrids names till there is a substantial difference (the ability to plug in...
d0li0
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Dec 15, 2005
8:39 am

... I wasn't "calling it names" Ryan, I was just making an observation. The HCH cannot MOVE without the gas engine running... my Prius can move quite far...
Paul Lawler
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Dec 15, 2005
9:05 am

... fuels). ... The ... is ... ********************************************** Additional data that differentiates Honda and Toyota Hybrids is the amount of...
Bob G.
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Dec 15, 2005
1:34 pm

... * The Prius has a 67 hp electric motor. The HCH has a 13 hp electric motor. I personally consider that a substantial difference, also. earle * (BTW, I...
Earle Jones
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Dec 16, 2005
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... As was I, I simple didn't find your witty comment very helpfull. It seemed to used a pair of overhyped labels in an effort to dismiss some very good...
d0li0
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Dec 16, 2005
10:02 am

... fuels). ... Right arm! I do believe a gridable hybrid should be the stepping stone from what we have to what we need (hydrogen?). Bill...
Bill Rouse
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Dec 15, 2005
1:29 pm

... What we need is Mr. Fusion. -- Discordians don't pray: it is far too dangerous....
Michelle Steiner
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Dec 15, 2005
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... * ...and an anti-gravity machine. earle *...
Earle Jones
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Dec 16, 2005
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... stepping ... Here you go: http://www.moller.com/...
Bill Rouse
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Dec 21, 2005
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I agree with the anti-gravity machine Earle. ;-) My sales guy laughed when I said to him: "What? You mean it doesn't levitate OR fold up into a suitcase YET?...
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Dec 16, 2005
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... As someone else reported, it means that the AC is either electric or mechanical. It's more complex, but it is more efficient to use a belt driven...
Alan Bowler
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Dec 14, 2005
7:58 pm

Thanks Dennis, I totally agree with you 1000%. I just posted it as is to see what some of us thought of it. I even did check them out right before I bought...
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Sep 28, 2005
6:13 pm

... I just wish they'de be truthful. It's a gasoline powered car with an electric motor assist. As far as I know it just flat doesn't run in "stealth" mode. ...
Tom M
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Sep 28, 2005
6:13 pm

... That makes it a hybrid; it's a parallel hybrid, not a series-parallel one like the Prius. Running in "stealth" mode has nothing to do with whether it is a...
Michelle Steiner
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Sep 28, 2005
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This generation of IMA (Honda's name for its hybrid) is supposed to be a full hybrid. At least that is what I read in the paper....
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