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Re: Last week I SAW A GM EV1 ON THE ROAD

GM Built 1160 EV1s including the early Impact prototypes. 660 Gen 1s
and 500 Gen IIs. The lowest Vin delivered to a customer was #37
which was leased by Alexandra Paul. Approximately 50 of these were
stripped of their electronics and donated to Museaums and Colleges.
The Nethercutt collection and the Petersen here in LA both have one
and Brigham Young have one that they turned into a dragster using an
Ultra-Cap. 100 were moved to the NE and placed in service, some with
GM employees and some with local and state government angencies. GM
claimed that these were being put there to research how the packs
behaved in cold weather. EV1 watchers believe that this was done to
meet ZEV mandate requirements in the NE (MY, ME). The rest,
approximately 1010 vehicles were taken to the GM proving ground in
Mesa AZ and crushed.


--- In Prius-2G@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_p_b_smith"
<daniel_p_b_smith@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In Prius-2G@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Tucker" <tuckerb2@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > You very well might have seen an EV1. A few GM EV1s were taken
from
> > California and put in service in NY for GM employees. The rest
were crushed,
> > or had their guts ripped out and the shell donated to museums.
> > Bruce
>
> I saw an EV1 on the road in Dedham, Massachusetts a
> couple of months ago.
>
> I am beginning to wonder about the truth of the story
> that "most of them were crushed." Yes, I've seen a
> seen a photo of _some_ of them being crushed,
> but I wonder whether GM might have exaggerated
> the extent of it in order to calm down the people who
> had leased them and were disappointed at not having been
> given the option to buy them.
>
> GM might have reasoned that "they've been crushed"
> would induce a sharp but brief pang of loss
> and the end of the conversation, whereas "we decided to
> award 'your' EV1 as a perk to a deserving GM employee"
> might have evoked a somewhat different reaction.
>







Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:29 pm

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Is it possible to add an extra battery pack to a prius which I charge at night from a windmill ? (2003 technology). My commute is 106 miles round trip....
lawrence_d_lopez
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Aug 15, 2005
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... You can obtain salvage and build your own case and control, like I did. ... You will not see much MPG improvement (maybe 1%) just from 2 Aux packs on such ...
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Aug 15, 2005
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... The '04 battery is about equivalent to half a cup of gasoline and is worth perhaps three miles under good conditions, and I don't think the '03 is much...
priusnv
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Aug 15, 2005
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... Maybe downhill. Typically I think 12 miles is more than what can be expected if the 40-80% SoC is kept. The 40% useful Capacity of each battery pack is ...
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andy_on_os2
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Aug 15, 2005
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... You need to look into the Prius+, CalCars.org, EDrive and EnergyCS projects, I believe they are shooting for 20 and 40 miles per charge additional battery...
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Aug 16, 2005
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I'd be interested in being able to plug in my Prius'05, but I have a few questions: 1) Are there places in Massachusetts that would do this? 2) If there are,...
Michael Mirman
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Sep 6, 2005
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... For enough money... probably. But I don't know where, offhand. ... Absolutely. Kiss your warranty goodbye. ... Try $12k to $30k to convert. This is a...
Paul Lawler
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Sep 6, 2005
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I would have to agree, unless you really want to be on the cutting edge you should probably wait for Toyota to offer this as an option, or pay the premium to...
d0li0
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Sep 6, 2005
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Unfortunately, I was too slow-witted to realize exactly what it was seeing, or get a picture, or cut in front of the driver and force him to stop and tell me...
daniel_p_b_smith
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Sep 6, 2005
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... Ya, what you saw was probably one of the few remaining EV1's that GM employees are using to collect data for their fuel cell programs, since afterall they...
d0li0
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Sep 7, 2005
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... GM has loaned out to some cities their EV-1's to be evaluated as to their performance in colder weather. See the article in the Newton, Ma. local...
jim13000
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Sep 7, 2005
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... $200,000? Oh, never mind. How had I gotten the idea that they cost in the thirties?...
daniel_p_b_smith
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... to ... Newton, ... two ... help ... cars ... the ... "At night, the $250,000 vehicles get recharged" What a load of crap, their MSRP was under $45K, and...
d0li0
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Sep 7, 2005
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When GM pried the EV1 out of the hands of their Lesees they took about 100 of the NiMH models and sent them to the North East. They were supposed to be...
Noel Adams
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Sep 7, 2005
3:36 pm

A friend of mine was in Niagara Falls recently and saw a few very small (perhaps 2 occupant) vehicles in the parking lot. To judge from the pictures I'd say...
Robert Webster
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Sep 7, 2005
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... Sure they weren't the Smart car?...
Alan Bowler
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Nov 2, 2005
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... Sounds like your friend saw the Smart Car. They are sold in Canada. That's not an electric car -- it runs on diesel fuel. It's main selling point is that...
Linda Zed
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Nov 10, 2005
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You very well might have seen an EV1. A few GM EV1s were taken from California and put in service in NY for GM employees. The rest were crushed, or had their...
Bruce Tucker
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Nov 9, 2005
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... I saw an EV1 on the road in Dedham, Massachusetts a couple of months ago. I am beginning to wonder about the truth of the story that "most of them were...
daniel_p_b_smith
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Nov 9, 2005
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... Yup, a few of them are still on the roads, for R&D purposes. ... Few people that I talk to even know these cars once existed. I'm think it's more likely a...
d0li0
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Nov 10, 2005
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The EV1 had or has a Cd (Coefficient of Drag) of .19 which is incredibly low. Just for fun, I ran the EV1's Cd of .19 on our newer Prius which has .26 in the...
mwbueno
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Nov 10, 2005
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GM Built 1160 EV1s including the early Impact prototypes. 660 Gen 1s and 500 Gen IIs. The lowest Vin delivered to a customer was #37 which was leased by...
Noel Adams
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Nov 10, 2005
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Posting for a friend (not on this list) to whom I sent this thread for a response. Also see Noel's email which has similar info. Bruce ************** GM built...
Bruce Tucker
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Nov 10, 2005
11:24 pm

... Here we go again. None of the people that make this claim seem to have ever worked in a business that creates prototypes that they allow the public to test...
Michael Bender
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Nov 10, 2005
11:29 pm

... Usually, when customers say they love the prototypes and want to buy them, businesses proceed to manufacture and market them. I don't really believe they...
daniel_p_b_smith
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Nov 11, 2005
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... In case anyone thinks that crushing was a fate unique to the EV1 -- something that GM did to be exceedingly evil toward only those cars -- crushing is the...
David Pool
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Nov 11, 2005
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I suspect the analysis of the EV1 program went something like this: "what will make GM executives and shareholders more money *this year* -- pushing harder to...
fritz_neufeld
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Nov 12, 2005
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... mike Well, not to belabor this point, but I don't think you are describing this particular situation. GM didn't build the EV1 just to allow the public to ...
Bruce Tucker
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Nov 10, 2005
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