I think she really likes me! She sent this to me, so everyone else back off...
and don't tell my wife :p

--- In NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com, "newaqxfriends" <newaqxfriends@...>
wrote:
>
> I do not want the entire group seeing these photos.Because some may recognize
me. Here's the link:
> http://babysgirl.zoomshare.com/files/photos.htm
>
> Enjoy babe :)
>

I do not want the entire group seeing these photos.Because some may recognize
me. Here's the link:
http://babysgirl.zoomshare.com/files/photos.htm

Enjoy babe :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Anybody planning on going?

Hi,

I am new to all this, I just bougth a 90cc for my kid, and started looking for a
used machine for me, but now I am looking at where we can ride, and am not
seeing anything anywhere?

I am looking for something simple, relatively flat, where we an play a little. 
he's never ridden before and is little so am not looking for extreme adventure
here, for me either for that matter, but it's disheaqrtening to see I can't take
him anywhere that I an see where we can ride.

I live in nw corener of buffalo, right near tonawanda border...

help?

Thanks,

Brad

The posting system seems to be messed up tonight. Preview shows my message, but
the message keeps coming as all the quoted txt. sorry.

I'm a new member of NYTRO, so if you don't mind I would like to throw my
perspective in the mix. NYTRO and the http://www.nysorva.org/ member clubs are
trying their best to get riding land opened up in New York state. You may have
noticed the lack of official trails and legal riding areas. This is mostly
because the ATV law was changed from Open unless posted to Closed unless posted
on public land, and a bad taste left in peoples mouths by loud exhausts and poor
behavior.

"You may not operate an ATV on public land unless it is specifically designated
for ATV use, and it is allowed by a posted sign." - I'll come back to this in a
second.

	 The club has access some privately owned land, that can be ridden on, usually
for a small fee. These trails are scattered about, Lake Demmon is an example.
The rest of the trails are either Public / permitted by the local government -
some of Tug Hill, or a non posted but town approved ATV trail - West shore line
trail in Byron / Bergen. The problem with the Bergen trail is that it is not
posted OK for ATV use (no signs saying ATV's permitted that I could see).
Although the police and locals seem ok with the ATV's, and if you look online
the counsel voted it "ok for ATV use", my understanding is that without a posted
sign, it's not totally legit. I will ride there again, but figured there might
be others who want a 100% legit experience. If you google West Shore Line, you
should be able to find the trail and decide it's boundaries / legitimacy for
yourself.

	 If you join NYTRO I can't say that legal riding trails all over New York will
suddenly appear for you. Legal, free trails are almost non existent. I can say
that you will be supporting the effort to open up more land. You will be invited
on many rides, I've been on two of the three that I was invited too... since
July 4th. You may have to drive for some of the rides, but the camaraderie and
the trail makes it all worth while. A club with a trail is awesome, but if they
aren't working to change the law, and public opinion, their trail can disappear
overnight. I know of too many people who cannot ride on property they own, and
have been using for 20-30 years, because of a neighbor moving in, and deciding
they didn't like people riding near them.

This is why I joined, and what I've taken from NYTRO. Hope it helps you decide
if the club would be a good fit for you.

Rusty

----- Original Message -----

From: nytropam

To: NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:59 PM

Subject: [NytroWesternChapter] Re: Riding trails

 

Hi Ray,

One of the NYTRO trails that is available to you to ride is located near Bath, NY...looks to be about an hour and 45 minutes from your location. There is camping at Lake Demmon Recreation and 20 miles of trails: 16 miles of green (or easy) trails and 4 miles of blue and red (intermediate and expert only) trails. You can fish at the lake or just go boating, too.

The website address for more information: www.demonrunatvtrails.com.

The Western Chapter also has trails in Cuba, NY...looks like about two hours and 15 minutes from you. You'll have to ask them for directions, though! I haven't been there yet.

~ Pam
- -
Pam Burns
Executive Director, NYTRO Inc.
http://www.nytroatv.org
Secretary, NYTRO Southern Tier
http://www.nytrostier.org
Ph: 607.760.0517

--- In NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <rmosher1@...> wrote:
>
> I just joined the Nytro Western Chapter ATV Yahoo site. I am retired and looking for riding trails that I can leisurely ride legally. I live in the Holley, Brockport, NY area and was intersted to see you posted a Bergen trail ride. Are there trails in my area that I can legally ride on if I join your club? Is there a better club that fits my needs more. I don't mind driving a little for good trails. Thank you in advance for any help you give me. Ray
>

Hi Ray,

One of the NYTRO trails that is available to you to ride is located near Bath,
NY...looks to be about an hour and 45 minutes from your location. There is
camping at Lake Demmon Recreation and 20 miles of trails: 16 miles of green (or
easy) trails and 4 miles of blue and red (intermediate and expert only) trails.
You can fish at the lake or just go boating, too.

The website address for more information: www.demonrunatvtrails.com.

The Western Chapter also has trails in Cuba, NY...looks like about two hours and
15 minutes from you. You'll have to ask them for directions, though! I haven't
been there yet.

~ Pam
- -
Pam Burns
Executive Director, NYTRO Inc.
http://www.nytroatv.org
Secretary, NYTRO Southern Tier
http://www.nytrostier.org
Ph: 607.760.0517



--- In NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <rmosher1@...> wrote:
>
> I just joined the Nytro Western Chapter ATV Yahoo site. I am retired and
looking for riding trails that I can leisurely ride legally. I live in the
Holley, Brockport, NY area and was intersted to see you posted a Bergen trail
ride. Are there trails in my area that I can legally ride on if I join your
club? Is there a better club that fits my needs more. I don't mind driving a
little for good trails. Thank you in advance for any help you give me.   Ray
>

I just joined the Nytro Western Chapter ATV Yahoo site. I am retired and looking
for riding trails that I can leisurely ride legally. I live in the Holley,
Brockport, NY area and was intersted to see you posted a Bergen trail ride. Are
there trails in my area that I can legally ride on if I join your club? Is there
a better club that fits my needs more. I don't mind driving a little for good
trails. Thank you in advance for any help you give me.   Ray

LOL! It was really wet, but fun! Awesome trails in Jefferson County, we can't
wait to go back! I posted some pictures on my Facebook if you'd like to see
them: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2025047&id=1505624792&l=621e3a7914.

~ Pam


--- In NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com, "shaltac" <shaltac@...> wrote:
>
> I spent the day setting up a Verizon Booth at the Taste of Buffalo, in the
rain... How was the ride?
>

I spent the day setting up a Verizon Booth at the Taste of Buffalo, in the
rain... How was the ride?

Got to work today and boss says, "guess what you're doing on the 11th"?


Hint for all of you, it isn't riding quads...

I believe there are a couple of more organized and semi organized rides this
month. Will have to try and get to one of those.

Thanks all
Rusty

Plan on seeing some of you on the 11th with the North chapter, just not sure if
I have Wifey convinced to come. Have a safe and happy 4th.

Update from Mike Bellinger:

Fire Department thru me a ringer and sent out the advertisement for Sunday the
12Th. Saturday works for me, we can do that & have a cookout at our place. I
have 2 grills and cooker so not much we can't do do, send in your request as
what you want to eat. We rode the Southern Loop Saturday. Without going into the
more aggressive woodland trails and it was 68 miles by time we got back. Will
give you what you want when we go out--the mud trails have good bottoms in them
and only have to winch out those that get hung up. Dylan rode them like a champ
with a 125 during training before being grounded with a broken finger, so they
just look alot worse than they are. Later and Thank You.

-----

I don't know about anyone else, but I think this sounds like a blast! Hope you
can come,
Pam


--- In NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com, "nytropam" <pgburns@...> wrote:
>
> All NYTRO members are invited to come and ride to show support for our
northern chapter. Mike Bellinger, president of NYTRO NNY is hosting an
all-chapter ride on July 11th. Cost is $10 donation per person. Ride can be
anywhere from 30 to 70 miles!
>
> NYTRO Southern Tier is meeting at the Rest Area on I-81 North at Tully, NY at
about 9:00 AM and will convoy from there to Mike Bellinger's house in Lorraine,
NY. We hope to arrive at about 11AM.
>
> Address for Mapquest: 20553 County Route 189, Lorraine, NY.
>
> Please RSVP with Pam at pgburns@... by July 6th as we will be having a cook
out lunch at Mike's and need to plan for food.
>
> Questions: Pam at pgburns@...
>
> Let's Ride!!
> :-))
>

All NYTRO members are invited to come and ride to show support for our northern
chapter. Mike Bellinger, president of NYTRO NNY is hosting an all-chapter ride
on July 11th. Cost is $10 donation per person. Ride can be anywhere from 30 to
70 miles!

NYTRO Southern Tier is meeting at the Rest Area on I-81 North at Tully, NY at
about 9:00 AM and will convoy from there to Mike Bellinger's house in Lorraine,
NY. We hope to arrive at about 11AM.

Address for Mapquest: 20553 County Route 189, Lorraine, NY.

Please RSVP with Pam at pgburns@... by July 6th as we will be having a
cook out lunch at Mike's and need to plan for food.

Questions: Pam at pgburns@....

Let's Ride!!
:-))

Hey all. Just joined Nytro Central with my son. Looking forward to bumping into
some new people and doing some riding.

I recommend you take a look at this... Check it here:
http://nardce.zoomshare.com/files/chicks.htm

We are getting ready to ride, can't wait! Our trails at Demon Run in Howard, NY
are clear and waiting!!!

:-))

--- In NytroWesternChapter@yahoogroups.com, "shaltac" <shaltac@...> wrote:
>
> I'll get this started.
> When I joined this group I had an XT250, which I traded for an '05 LTZ400.
> I've been riding some private trails out by Bristol about every other weekend.
Lots of mud, some really fast sections, lots of elevation changes. Sunday I
stopped while exploring a "new to me" trail. Just sat and soaked in the woods
for a little bit. 5 deer passed within a couple of hundred feet of me, weaving
in and out of the woods. Good times.
> I've also started exploring my property and cutting some trails through the
woods. I replaced my tires with a set of ITP XCR's. The difference in traction
is amazing. Tight woods are now fun, and side-hilling is somewhat more possible.
> Well I hope everyone else is able to get out and enjoy some of this weather.
> Rusty
>

I'll get this started.
When I joined this group I had an XT250, which I traded for an '05 LTZ400.
I've been riding some private trails out by Bristol about every other weekend.
Lots of mud, some really fast sections, lots of elevation changes. Sunday I
stopped while exploring a "new to me" trail. Just sat and soaked in the woods
for a little bit. 5 deer passed within a couple of hundred feet of me, weaving
in and out of the woods. Good times.
I've also started exploring my property and cutting some trails through the
woods. I replaced my tires with a set of ITP XCR's. The difference in traction
is amazing. Tight woods are now fun, and side-hilling is somewhat more possible.
Well I hope everyone else is able to get out and enjoy some of this weather.
Rusty

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I live in Hamburg which is really close to Boston.  My aunt is also
from Boston and she lives on a street where there is access to the
access road on top of the hills there. Can I possibly bring my atv's up
there?

Thank You and God Bless

-Ron

Riding areas are tough to come by and most people have a little slice of
heaven that
they call a home trail. New York State is a tough state to ride (or drive)
anything off road.
There is a significant lack of State and Federal riding areas (Michigan has a
nearly state
wide trail system, and PA is almost as good).
      Back in the 80's and early 90's when I was riding off road I had friends
with access to
and permission to use a cow pasture with some woods. Unfortunately we told
friends, who
told friends, who (you get the idea) and the only way the farmer could control
the situation
was to ban everyone from riding on the property.
      There also used to be trails that went all over the place. "Abandoned" sand
pits
abounded. Not so much any more. Land is being sold and used. People who once
turned a
blind eye to trespassing now want their boundaries strictly enforced. I can't
say I blame
them, I've had to deal with hunters on my property, and most of them are ok, but
the guy
that threatens to punch you out for kicking him off of your property... where he
was
trespassing... kinda ruins it for others.
      There are a few pay to ride areas around, Copper Creek, Whispering Pines,
Demmon
Lake, Allegheny Forest in PA, Etc. Etc. Etc. They are a good place to start
looking when you
want to go riding. You can ask around locally and see if anyone knows of good
riding
areas. Be careful as many riding areas are "borrowed" from the actual land
owner, mostly
without permission. You are best off approaching the owner of the property and
asking.
You can also do what I did and buy some land. It's a small parcel but it does
alright by me.
      I guess the point is, that if you come in here (or any off road board I've
seen) and ask
where to ride, You will get a standard join the group so we can get to know you,
and here
is a list of pay to ride places. Most people won't give up the location and
permission to use
their little slice of heaven to just anyone who asks. This goes for ATV's, Big
off road trucks,
Even nitro RC car racing.
Thanks for listening
Rusty