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#5303 From: Mick Momtahan <mick.momtahan@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Valve adjustment
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Thanks!
Any one got info on the spark Arrestor. Should I just take take the muffler apart and clean it up?

 Mick
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, big_orang_eep <big_orang_eep@...> wrote:

From: big_orang_eep <big_orang_eep@...>
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] Re: Valve adjustment
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 11:30 AM

 

Intake 0.15 +- 0.02 mm

Exhaust 0.20 +- 0.02 mm

Set with engine COLD

TDC can be determined with a piece of doweling inserted in the spark plug hole on the compression stroke.

--- In Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com, "mick.momtahan" <mick.momtahan@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi. Can any one tell me what the inlet valve and the exhaust valve gaps are supposed to be? Also do I adjust hot or cold? Are there markings on the inside for TDC? Which panels do I need to take off to do the valve adjustments?
> Also on the Spark Arrestor, can any one tell me how I have to clean that?
> Any advise would be appreciated.
> Mick
>



#5302 From: "big_orang_eep" <big_orang_eep@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: Valve adjustment
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Intake   0.15 +- 0.02 mm

Exhaust  0.20 +- 0.02 mm

Set with engine COLD

TDC can be determined with a piece of doweling inserted in the spark plug hole
on the compression stroke.


--- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "mick.momtahan"
<mick.momtahan@...> wrote:
>
> Hi. Can any one tell me what the inlet valve and the exhaust valve gaps are
supposed to be? Also do I adjust hot or cold? Are there markings on the inside
for TDC? Which panels do I need to take off to do the valve adjustments?
> Also on the Spark Arrestor, can any one tell me how I have to clean that?
> Any advise would be appreciated.
> Mick
>

#5301 From: "mick.momtahan" <mick.momtahan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:23 pm
Subject: Valve adjustment
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Hi. Can any one tell me what the inlet valve and the exhaust valve gaps are
supposed to be? Also do I adjust hot or cold? Are there markings on the inside
for TDC? Which panels do I need to take off to do the valve adjustments?
Also on the Spark Arrestor, can any one tell me how I have to clean that?
Any advise would be appreciated.
Mick

#5300 From: Leander311@...
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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12,000 BTUH = 1 ton.
 
Power draw (under steady state conditions after unit is running and has stabilized) is a function of unit efficiency, rated as SEER, EER, or COP.  The most common rating method in the US, SEER, is defined as BTU output divided by Watt-hours.  This translates quite simply to a 10:1 ratio of BTUH rating and Watts use at steady state for a SEER rating of 10.  9.7 SEER is the code minimum for window units, so 10 is a good approximation for simplicity.  So for example, a 12,000 BTUH unit (1 ton) with a SEER of 10 will use 1,200 Watts.  The typical 13,500 BTUH camper unit then uses 1,350 W.  Current draw spikes significantly at startup, and much more so if the compressor has recently cycled off due to high head pressures...  Hence why some RV rooftop units will run on a single EU2000i, and some will not!
 
BTW, info below may be from some "rule of thumb" chart or something but is only true for one efficiency level, which happens to be VERY low (5.45 SEER).
 
Regards,
Nick
Mechanical/HVAC/Facilities Professional Engineer
-----Original Message-----
From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 5:04 am
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] 15,000 BTU Air Cond.

 
how does the one ton rating relate to the BTU rating?

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:52 AM

 

note that one ton a/c is 2200w and 1.5ton a/c is use 3300watts buy model 6500 that means 5000watts

From: danafredendall <danafredendall@ yahoo.com>
To: Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 1:22:09 AM
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_ Generators] 15,000 BTU Air Cond.

 
I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them parallel to run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and goodies on my 2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only one 2000i when I do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and easier to manage than my Honda EM3500 gen. Is anybody doing this? I get mixed information as to whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level doubled when running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as rated?




#5299 From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:04 am
Subject: Re: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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how does the one ton rating relate to the BTU rating?

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@...> wrote:

From: mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@...>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:52 AM

 


note that one ton a/c is 2200w and 1.5ton a/c is use 3300watts buy model 6500 that means 5000watts

From: danafredendall <danafredendall@ yahoo.com>
To: Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 1:22:09 AM
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_ Generators] 15,000 BTU Air Cond.

 

I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them parallel to run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and goodies on my 2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only one 2000i when I do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and easier to manage than my Honda EM3500 gen. Is anybody doing this? I get mixed information as to whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level doubled when running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as rated?




#5298 From: mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:52 am
Subject: Re: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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note that one ton a/c is 2200w and 1.5ton a/c is use 3300watts buy model 6500 that means 5000watts

From: danafredendall <danafredendall@...>
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 1:22:09 AM
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] 15,000 BTU Air Cond.

 

I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them parallel to run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and goodies on my 2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only one 2000i when I do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and easier to manage than my Honda EM3500 gen. Is anybody doing this? I get mixed information as to whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level doubled when running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as rated?



#5297 From: "Steve" <sro54@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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I get just a little louder HUMMMMM that goes up and down but not that bad. I
have isolated the air from the rest of the board so when I run the air, only air
is drawing from the gennys. I will run a 15 amp power cord direct from the
converter that I have wired with a switch to the Honda so I am charging the
batteries( 6 golf cart ). The Inverter that is separate runs the plugs in the
RV.

--- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "danafredendall"
<danafredendall@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I appreciate hearing it from voices o experience rather than sales
reps who have never actually configured he pair, and might have been selling
Maytags the week before. What kind of noise levels do you get with two running
vs just one?
>
> --- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "tundracamper" <tundracamper@>
wrote:
> >
> > Why the "mixed information?"  There are plenty of people doing this.  You
get close to 4k Watts peak with two units running in parallel.  With the 3,200
Watts continuous, that will run the A/C, fridge, TV, and maybe even the
microwave - all at once.  I can run both the A/C and microwave for a short time
before running into problems.  If I shut off everything else (fridge on gass,
etc), it works better.  Nevertheless, it is more than adequate for "dry
camping!"
> >
> > Yes, one will work pretty good when you don't need A/C.
> >
> >
> > --- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "danafredendall"
<danafredendall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them
parallel to run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and
goodies on my 2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only
one 2000i when I do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and
easier to manage than my Honda EM3500 gen.  Is anybody doing this? I get mixed
information as to whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level
doubled when running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as
rated?
> > >
> >
>

#5296 From: "danafredendall" <danafredendall@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:02 am
Subject: Re: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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Thanks. I appreciate hearing it from voices o experience rather than sales reps
who have never actually configured he pair, and might have been selling Maytags
the week before. What kind of noise levels do you get with two running vs just
one?

--- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "tundracamper"
<tundracamper@...> wrote:
>
> Why the "mixed information?"  There are plenty of people doing this.  You get
close to 4k Watts peak with two units running in parallel.  With the 3,200 Watts
continuous, that will run the A/C, fridge, TV, and maybe even the microwave -
all at once.  I can run both the A/C and microwave for a short time before
running into problems.  If I shut off everything else (fridge on gass, etc), it
works better.  Nevertheless, it is more than adequate for "dry camping!"
>
> Yes, one will work pretty good when you don't need A/C.
>
>
> --- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "danafredendall"
<danafredendall@> wrote:
> >
> > I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them parallel
to run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and goodies on my
2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only one 2000i when I
do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and easier to manage
than my Honda EM3500 gen.  Is anybody doing this? I get mixed information as to
whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level doubled when
running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as rated?
> >
>

#5295 From: "tundracamper" <tundracamper@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:30 pm
Subject: Re: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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Why the "mixed information?"  There are plenty of people doing this.  You get
close to 4k Watts peak with two units running in parallel.  With the 3,200 Watts
continuous, that will run the A/C, fridge, TV, and maybe even the microwave -
all at once.  I can run both the A/C and microwave for a short time before
running into problems.  If I shut off everything else (fridge on gass, etc), it
works better.  Nevertheless, it is more than adequate for "dry camping!"

Yes, one will work pretty good when you don't need A/C.


--- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, "danafredendall"
<danafredendall@...> wrote:
>
> I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them parallel to
run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and goodies on my
2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only one 2000i when I
do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and easier to manage
than my Honda EM3500 gen.  Is anybody doing this? I get mixed information as to
whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level doubled when
running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as rated?
>

#5294 From: "danafredendall" <danafredendall@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:22 pm
Subject: 15,000 BTU Air Cond.
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I want to purchase the EU2000i and EU2000i Companion, and run them parallel to
run my single, roof top Dometic 15,000 BTU air conditioner, and goodies on my
2007 fifth wheel while camping. I like the option of using only one 2000i when I
do not need the A/C. These new 2000s are certainly quieter and easier to manage
than my Honda EM3500 gen.  Is anybody doing this? I get mixed information as to
whether it is adequate. Is the parallel operation noise level doubled when
running both units, or do the blend together to stay around 56db as rated?

#5293 From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: need help with noise
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I had a noise problem with an EM7000i and I pt on a new  muffler.  No change.
 
Checked the valve clearance and found they were way loose.  Adjusted the valves and the niose went away.  The sound of loose valve rockers sounds like a loud exhaust.
 
Wendell

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@...> wrote:

From: mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@...>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] need help with noise
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:14 AM

 
check the oil only and use in open air


From: i.am.reil <i.am.reil@gmail. com>
To: Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 6:58:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_ Generators] need help with noise

 
Well, my first guess would be to change out the muffler..... ..

Arne
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change for that one animal.
.
A house is not a home without a border collie (Arne)
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mobile_crane_ service" <dr_nancy_gregory@ hotmail.com>
To: <Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:12 AM
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_ Generators] need help with noise

> My generators are 3 years old and are usually run in a parrell set up.
> The problem is that they are both louder than they were when I first
> bought them. One is louder than the other. All suggestions are
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>




#5292 From: mudassir humayun vohra <binda_1977@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:14 am
Subject: Re: need help with noise
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check the oil only and use in open air


From: i.am.reil <i.am.reil@...>
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 6:58:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] need help with noise

 

Well, my first guess would be to change out the muffler..... ..

Arne
.
Saving just one animal won't change the world ... but surely, the world will
change for that one animal.
.
A house is not a home without a border collie (Arne)
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mobile_crane_ service" <dr_nancy_gregory@ hotmail.com>
To: <Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:12 AM
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_ Generators] need help with noise

> My generators are 3 years old and are usually run in a parrell set up.
> The problem is that they are both louder than they were when I first
> bought them. One is louder than the other. All suggestions are
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



#5291 From: "Ramon P" <mrfixit454@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Camper Charging Problem
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Since no one has mentioned it yet, are you sure your refer is not on auto thus
pulling AC load and also your hot water heater element if you have one should be
off.  When you say sometimes it plays and some not, is this when the batteries
are near full charge?

  I would try to turn off as many AC loads as you can when you turn the gen on
and see what happens. As charge current goes down, you can slowly turn things
on.  I have an EU3000 and when I run my a/c, I turn power to the inverter off so
it does not pull the gen down trying the charge the batteries.  This also allows
us use AC loads off the inverter while the gen supplies mostly the A/C unit. 
You have to play a balancing game with your loads.  We also switch the refer and
water heater to gas when we do this.

Hope this helps.

#5290 From: "i.am.reil" <i.am.reil@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: need help with noise
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Well, my first guess would be to change out the muffler.......

Arne
.
Saving just one animal won't change the world ... but surely, the world will
change for that one animal.
.
A house is not a home without a border collie (Arne)
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mobile_crane_service" <dr_nancy_gregory@...>
To: <Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:12 AM
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] need help with noise


> My generators are 3 years old and are usually run in a parrell set up.
> The problem is that they  are both louder than they were when I first
> bought them. One is louder than the other. All suggestions are
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#5289 From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: need help with noise
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If the valves have not been adjusted and are loose, they can add to noise (a lot). Also, if the valves have not been adjusted they should  be.  If they are too tight, you can burn a valve.
 
Also look for leaks around the muffler fittings, or a loose saprk arrester.
 
Wendell

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, mobile_crane_service <dr_nancy_gregory@...> wrote:

From: mobile_crane_service <dr_nancy_gregory@...>
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] need help with noise
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:12 AM

 
My generators are 3 years old and are usually run in a parrell set up.
The problem is that they are both louder than they were when I first bought them. One is louder than the other. All suggestions are appreciated.



#5288 From: "mobile_crane_service" <dr_nancy_gregory@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:12 am
Subject: need help with noise
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My generators are 3 years old and are usually run in a parrell set up.
The problem is that they  are both louder than they were when I first bought
them. One is louder than the other. All suggestions are appreciated.

#5287 From: Mick Momtahan <mick.momtahan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:51 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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I was in touch with Neil Kearns of Duration Power a while back. I was interested in having them make me a parallel kit for 4-5 EU2000 units to be run together if needed. He said thay can do it.

You might want to get in touch with him and ask him this question. I'm sure he'll have valuable input.

Mick

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, kayakjay@... <kayakjay@...> wrote:

From: kayakjay@... <kayakjay@...>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] Has anyone tried this? Yes!
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:24 PM

In a message dated 11/9/09 7:11:39 PM, reevewe@... writes:
And Honda warns to only use the same size generator to parallel.

...with Honda's $40 parallel kit. 

Over 40 years I have often found after-market parts which exceed the quality or use of OEM.  There are also cheap (junk) OEM and after-market products available.

Notice that:
www.wisesales.com/honda_parallel.html
sells 8 parallel kits: $40, $50, $60, $90, $200 (2), $256 and $300.  Six of these 8 are for use with our EU2000i generators.  Each should have appropriate electronics to handle the job they are designed for.  The most expensive $300 parallel kit is the only one I have seen which balances different size generators. This of course would require more elaborate electronics and heavier duty/guage wiring.  This is also what the originator of this thread was asking. Duration power also sells it and perhaps they make it.

just a consumer of several fine Honda products,
Jay
Honda EU2000i Generator + aftermarket parts
Honda 550-Four + aftermarket parts
Honda Rune + aftermarket parts etc...


#5286 From: kayakjay@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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In a message dated 11/9/09 7:11:39 PM, reevewe@... writes:
And Honda warns to only use the same size generator to parallel.

...with Honda's $40 parallel kit. 

Over 40 years I have often found after-market parts which exceed the quality or use of OEM.  There are also cheap (junk) OEM and after-market products available.

Notice that:
www.wisesales.com/honda_parallel.html
sells 8 parallel kits: $40, $50, $60, $90, $200 (2), $256 and $300.  Six of these 8 are for use with our EU2000i generators.  Each should have appropriate electronics to handle the job they are designed for.  The most expensive $300 parallel kit is the only one I have seen which balances different size generators. This of course would require more elaborate electronics and heavier duty/guage wiring.  This is also what the originator of this thread was asking. Duration power also sells it and perhaps they make it.

just a consumer of several fine Honda products,
Jay
Honda EU2000i Generator + aftermarket parts
Honda 550-Four + aftermarket parts
Honda Rune + aftermarket parts etc...

#5285 From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:10 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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And Honda warns to only use the same size generator to parallel.  My bet goes with the original designer rather than someone trying to sell an after market accessory!

Wendell

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, kayakjay@... <kayakjay@...> wrote:

From: kayakjay@... <kayakjay@...>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] Has anyone tried this? Yes!
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:06 AM

Yes (name?),

You can use up to three generators from the 1000 to 3000 with this kit from wisesales.com.  Below is the link and text from their web site (scroll to the bottom of their web page).

Jay

http://www.wisesales.com/honda_parallel.html

Triple Parallel Kit -  $299.99 Triple Parallel combiner box connects any combination of EU2000i (camo and companion too) or EU1000i generators to produce up to 6KW or 50Amps. You can use a EU3000 and 1 EU2000 or 2 EU1000.  6000W maximum Load.

This unit uses the parallel ports on your generators and may be used with one, two, or three generators. Overcurrent protection and anti-oscillation circuitry assure safe reliable operation. Ground connection is quickly accomplished by plugging into the front outlet, no screwdriver required! The triple parallel kit also works with the Honda EU3000iSA. Any combination of generators will work whether it is 3 of the same unit or one of each! Also can be used for 1 or 2 units at a time.

In a message dated 11/8/09 9:54:00 AM, gwebie@... writes:

Has anyone ever tried to parallel a honda 1000 and a 2000 , I read someplace that it had been done . I have both units and really dont want to buy another bigger one.


#5284 From: "Steve W" <gwebie@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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I had read that also from Honda and that is what made me leery to try it , yet
I know I have read it someplace that someone had tried paralleling different
units 1000 , 2000 ,3000  and they all worked as a pair each sharing the load . I
just cant seem to find the article anymore .
  That fancy expensive kit from wise , is there actually any special circuits in
there ?




--- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, Mick Momtahan
<mick.momtahan@...> wrote:
>
> I can't find the link now, but I read on the Honda web site that only the same
wattage generators are to be used with the parallel kits.
>
> Oh I found it. Here's the link
> http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/accessories/#generator
>
> And here's the text:
>
>                                                     Parallel Kits and Cables
>
>
>
>
>                                                 Using
> a special cable or kit, you can link two EU1000i, two EU2000i, two
> EU3000i Handiâ„¢, or two EU3000is generators together to get as much as
> double the output. (Please note: you can only parallel two identical
> units together.)
> Mick
>

#5283 From: Mick Momtahan <mick.momtahan@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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I can't find the link now, but I read on the Honda web site that only the same wattage generators are to be used with the parallel kits.

Oh I found it. Here's the link
http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/accessories/#generator

And here's the text:
Parallel Kits and Cables

Using a special cable or kit, you can link two EU1000i, two EU2000i, two EU3000i Handiâ„¢, or two EU3000is generators together to get as much as double the output. (Please note: you can only parallel two identical units together.)


Mick





#5282 From: "nc5c" <nc5c@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:34 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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Yes the photo shows a three prong plug but it is used to pick up the ground
only.  The two spades are not wired.  All power passes through the shielded
banana clips.

And yes you can combine a 1000, a 2000 and a 3000 or any combination.

J R
NC5C

--- In Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com, Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
wrote:
>
> The photo shows the use of standard three prong electrical plugs.  When used
for parallel operation this is a VERY dangerous operation.  If a plug is pulled
out, the exposed prongs will be hot with the current supplied by another
generator.  That is why the Honda brand kit uses shielded banana plugs.  Any
home made kit also should use shielded plugs available from Mouser Electronics.
>
> Wendell
>

#5281 From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:19 am
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The photo shows the use of standard three prong electrical plugs.  When used for parallel operation this is a VERY dangerous operation.  If a plug is pulled out, the exposed prongs will be hot with the current supplied by another generator.  That is why the Honda brand kit uses shielded banana plugs.  Any home made kit also should use shielded plugs available from Mouser Electronics.

Wendell

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, kayakjay@... <kayakjay@...> wrote:

From: kayakjay@... <kayakjay@...>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] Has anyone tried this? Yes!
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:06 AM

Yes (name?),

You can use up to three generators from the 1000 to 3000 with this kit from wisesales.com.  Below is the link and text from their web site (scroll to the bottom of their web page).

Jay

http://www.wisesales.com/honda_parallel.html

Triple Parallel Kit -  $299.99 Triple Parallel combiner box connects any combination of EU2000i (camo and companion too) or EU1000i generators to produce up to 6KW or 50Amps. You can use a EU3000 and 1 EU2000 or 2 EU1000.  6000W maximum Load.

This unit uses the parallel ports on your generators and may be used with one, two, or three generators. Overcurrent protection and anti-oscillation circuitry assure safe reliable operation. Ground connection is quickly accomplished by plugging into the front outlet, no screwdriver required! The triple parallel kit also works with the Honda EU3000iSA. Any combination of generators will work whether it is 3 of the same unit or one of each! Also can be used for 1 or 2 units at a time.

In a message dated 11/8/09 9:54:00 AM, gwebie@... writes:

Has anyone ever tried to parallel a honda 1000 and a 2000 , I read someplace that it had been done . I have both units and really dont want to buy another bigger one.


#5280 From: kayakjay@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:06 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this? Yes!
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Yes (name?),

You can use up to three generators from the 1000 to 3000 with this kit from wisesales.com.  Below is the link and text from their web site (scroll to the bottom of their web page).

Jay

http://www.wisesales.com/honda_parallel.html

Triple Parallel Kit -  $299.99 Triple Parallel combiner box connects any combination of EU2000i (camo and companion too) or EU1000i generators to produce up to 6KW or 50Amps. You can use a EU3000 and 1 EU2000 or 2 EU1000.  6000W maximum Load.

This unit uses the parallel ports on your generators and may be used with one, two, or three generators. Overcurrent protection and anti-oscillation circuitry assure safe reliable operation. Ground connection is quickly accomplished by plugging into the front outlet, no screwdriver required! The triple parallel kit also works with the Honda EU3000iSA. Any combination of generators will work whether it is 3 of the same unit or one of each! Also can be used for 1 or 2 units at a time.

In a message dated 11/8/09 9:54:00 AM, gwebie@... writes:

Has anyone ever tried to parallel a honda 1000 and a 2000 , I read someplace that it had been done . I have both units and really dont want to buy another bigger one.

#5279 From: Peter Leonardi <petel12367@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried this ?
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It CAN be done, though I have not done it personally. You will see Wise Sales offering a triple parallel kit on eBay that they say will parallel THREE (any combination) EU series generators, up to 50A. I THINK you could use a standard 30A Parallel (factory or homebrew) cordset to pair a 2K and a 1K together. I'm REASONABLY SURE that the load sharing will be handled by the electronics of each generator.
 
Again, I have no first hand experience with any of this, but this is my understanding from what I have read here and elsewhere.
 
Peter
 
 
--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...> wrote:

From: Wendell Reeve <reevewe@...>
Subject: Re: [Honda_EU2000_Generators] Has anyone tried this ?
To: Honda_EU2000_Generators@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 2:30 PM

 
I don't know of it being done.  With that said, I would not recommend it.  There is no way to balance the load between the to or insure the 1K unit yould not be overloaded if a load of more than 2K were applied.  The load on such a setup should be limited to below 2K to insure the smaller unit over taxed.  With this restriction in mind,  the 2K  unit alone will carry the load.  If you need more than the 2K alone can provide, get another 2K to parallel yours with.
 
This is just my conjecture and worth the price paid for it.
 
Wendell
 
 
--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Steve W <gwebie@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Steve W <gwebie@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Honda_EU2000_ Generators] Has anyone tried this ?
To: Honda_EU2000_ Generators@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:55 AM

 
Has anyone ever tried to parallel a honda 1000 and a 2000 , I read someplace that it had been done . I have both units and really dont want to buy another bigger one .





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