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#10830 From: "D Keeling" <dr.big@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Quota dyno run
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Hi, The carb I used was a Weber 38 DGAS with, I think 27mm chokes( venturi's).
   Dave
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Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Re: Quota dyno run

 

Hi Dave, This is a conversion of great interest to me, and others I suspect. Are you able to provide details of the Weber model number? Would you mind posting some images when convenient?
Regards, Dale

--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "D Keeling" <dr.big@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Charlie, I used a single twin choke Weber which fitted straight onto the inlet manifold in place of the throttle body...originally fitted to the Ford V6 range of cars in the UK. I had to convert the water operated auto choke mechanism to manual, operated by the Guzzi choke lever.
> I used the original airbox and made a GRP adaptor which bolts to the top of the carb and is riveted to the base of the airbox after removing the original base, giving it a slightly larger volume, I also had to make up longer choke and throttle cables.
> I also removed the solenoid petrol taps and replaced them with Acerbis manual taps, which fit perfectly.
> I have also modified the seat, made a two piece adjustable screen and fitted 1150GS handguards which have made it into a comfortable long distance tourer.
> Regards
> Dave


#10829 From: "greenslade.alan" <greenslade.alan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Thanks - have sent a message to Price
Alan NZ

--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "Zupi" <stanislavbojanzupet@...> wrote:
>
> Alan
> Price Sloan's is better idea, post is cheaper too.
> Zupi
>

#10828 From: "Zupi" <stanislavbojanzupet@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:57 pm
Subject: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Alan
Price Sloan's is better idea, post is cheaper too.
Zupi

#10827 From: "Zupi" <stanislavbojanzupet@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Don't know baugt mine few years ago at Agostini.try also at mistral direct:
  http://www.mistralspecialparts.it/
Zupi

#10826 From: "stuart hall" <sthall1@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:03 pm
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I would guess he's using the Weber 32/36 DGV. There is also a 32/36 DGEV which
has an electric choke and only needs one 12v connection to work. This may be the
ultimate answer to our crappy fuel injection.




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#10825 From: "gtbender1970" <greg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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Yep, photos and details would be greatly appreciated...this sounds very cool!

Regards,

Gregory Bender

#10824 From: "gtbender1970" <greg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: Quota carb
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Hi Ron,

I've got a compression gauge, leak down tester, and an air compressor. Bring it
by some time and we'll check it out together.

Regards,

Gregory Bender

#10823 From: "Charlie Taliaferro" <ctaliafe@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:19 am
Subject: Re: Re: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Just wonder if you have considered Price Sloan's crossover?  I put one on my Quota several years ago, and it's a perfect fit and very well-made piece.
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Re: Teo Lamers Crossover

 

Who can supply a Mystral crossover - cheapest place?
Alan NZ

--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "Zupi" <stanislavbojanzupet@...> wrote:
>
> Alan
> I had a Mistral it fits with no other work or...Guess it's cheaper then one from Lammers which is also Mistral or coppy.it's in two pieces looks like a bit modifaid or second version of Mistral.Same is with exhaust, so colled Lameroni is Mistral and also more expencive then one from Italy.
> Zupi
>


#10822 From: "dalejbartlett" <dale.bartlett@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:56 am
Subject: Guzzi Green Paint Code
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Hi All, Does anyone have paint codes for the original v8 racing green? Thanks,
Dale.

#10821 From: "greenslade.alan" <greenslade.alan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:47 am
Subject: Re: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Who can supply a Mystral crossover - cheapest place?
Alan NZ

--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "Zupi" <stanislavbojanzupet@...> wrote:
>
> Alan
> I had a Mistral it fits with no other work or...Guess it's cheaper then one
from Lammers which is also Mistral or coppy.it's in two pieces looks like a bit
modifaid or second version of Mistral.Same is with exhaust, so colled Lameroni
is Mistral and also more expencive then one from Italy.
> Zupi
>

#10820 From: "dalejbartlett" <dale.bartlett@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:23 am
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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Hi Dave, This is a conversion of great interest to me, and others I suspect. Are
you able to provide details of the Weber model number? Would you mind posting
some images when convenient?
Regards, Dale

--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "D Keeling" <dr.big@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Charlie, I used a single twin choke Weber which fitted straight onto the
inlet manifold in place of the throttle body...originally fitted to the Ford V6
range of cars in the UK. I had to convert the water operated auto choke
mechanism to manual, operated by the Guzzi choke lever.
> I used the original airbox and made a GRP adaptor which bolts to the top of
the carb and is riveted to the base of the airbox after removing the original
base, giving it a slightly larger volume, I also had to make up longer choke and
throttle cables.
> I also removed the solenoid petrol taps and replaced them with Acerbis manual
taps, which fit perfectly.
> I have also modified the seat, made a two piece adjustable screen and fitted
1150GS handguards which have made it into a comfortable long distance tourer.
>    Regards
>      Dave

#10819 From: ctaliafe@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Quota carb
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If you're going to buy a compression gauge, you may as well spend a little
more and get a leak-down tester, too.  I know Harbor Freight has this
set-up for less than $30.  I made one myself many years ago, but the
Harbor Freight item will save you the trouble - and probably some expense.
  However, you will need an air compressor with tank to perform the
leak-down test.  It is a better test than a simple compression test and
will help you identify exactly where you are losing compression
(intake/exhaust valves or rings or head gasket).

>
>
> --- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Lampe" <d.lampe@...> wrote:
>>
>> Also check fuel pressure (pump and valve) and the fuel filter.
>>
>> Did check compression already? Can't remember from your earlier post.
>
>
>
> After looking at the plugs today (on the oily side with carbon build up,
> not too clean or tan at all) a compression check came to mind.
>
> Hose clamp worked loose on one of the taps and when I hit the key to start
> it lots of gas came out before I realized what had happened. Luckily
> someone on wildguzzi had had something similar happen so it was a very
> short leak and kitty litter handled the mess just fine. Otherwise I'm not
> sure how to check it further.
>
> Checked the air filter too and it looks pretty new without any visible
> dust much less dirt, dust bunnies or bug to clog things.
>
> So the compression has me worried (need to check the valve clearances too)
> so that is now on the docket. Just need to buy me one of them compression
> checkers.
>
>

#10818 From: "Ron and Sue Boe" <ronsueboe@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Quota carb
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--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Lampe" <d.lampe@...> wrote:
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> Also check fuel pressure (pump and valve) and the fuel filter.
>
> Did check compression already? Can't remember from your earlier post.



After looking at the plugs today (on the oily side with carbon build up, not too
clean or tan at all) a compression check came to mind.

Hose clamp worked loose on one of the taps and when I hit the key to start it
lots of gas came out before I realized what had happened. Luckily someone on
wildguzzi had had something similar happen so it was a very short leak and kitty
litter handled the mess just fine. Otherwise I'm not sure how to check it
further.

Checked the air filter too and it looks pretty new without any visible dust much
less dirt, dust bunnies or bug to clog things.

So the compression has me worried (need to check the valve clearances too) so
that is now on the docket. Just need to buy me one of them compression checkers.

#10817 From: "Dick Lampe" <d.lampe@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:28 am
Subject: RE: Re: Quota carb
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Also check fuel pressure (pump and valve) and the fuel filter.

Did check compression already? Can't remember from your earlier post.


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Onderwerp: [Guzzi_Quota] Re: Quota carb


> On all the Guzzi's I have dyno'd. The  Stock motors not including V11's
the power is at least 64 hp and torque is at almost the same.
> I think you have a bad dyno or a real problem with the bike.
>
> My pipes will bring the torque in a little sooner compared to the stock
exh.


I've added a scan of the dyno run. I didn't do one before the pipes were
added but you can see the torque curve is down in the lower rpm range - just
where I can use it.

I need to pull the plugs to see what they look like then pull the tank and
see what the air cleaner looks like.



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#10816 From: "Zupi" <stanislavbojanzupet@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:33 am
Subject: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Alan
I had a Mistral it fits with no other work or...Guess it's cheaper then one from
Lammers which is also Mistral or coppy.it's in two pieces looks like a bit
modifaid or second version of Mistral.Same is with exhaust, so colled Lameroni
is Mistral and also more expencive then one from Italy.
Zupi

#10815 From: "stuart hall" <sthall1@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: Photos....
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Guys,

My apologies to the group for the off topic photos. I did not send them. They
were sent to me via Juno email and not saved to my computer so I have no idea
how they were forwarded to the group. Again, sorry!

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#10814 From: "Pippo Lombardo" <giuseppe.lombardo89@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:15 pm
Subject: R: Teo Lamers Crossover
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the mistral crossover does

 

Da: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di greenslade.alan
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Will a Teo Lamers crossover pipe fit straight onto a stock muffler?
Regards
Alan NZ


#10813 From: "Charlie Taliaferro" <ctaliafe@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:34 am
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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Dave,
 
Sounds like a very ingenious and neat conversion.  I was wondering whether you had used a down-draft or side-draft carb.  I'll have to look at those Webers.  I was thinking maybe a Solex a la VW beetle could be adapted.
 
Thanks for updating us on this project.
 
Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: D Keeling
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Hi Charlie, I used a single twin choke Weber which fitted straight onto the inlet manifold in place of the throttle body...originally fitted to the Ford V6 range of cars in the UK. I had to convert the water operated auto choke mechanism to manual, operated by the Guzzi choke lever.
I used the original airbox and made a GRP adaptor which bolts to the top of the carb and is riveted to the base of the airbox after removing the original base, giving it a slightly larger volume, I also had to make up longer choke and throttle cables.
I also removed the solenoid petrol taps and replaced them with Acerbis manual taps, which fit perfectly.
I have also modified the seat, made a two piece adjustable screen and fitted 1150GS handguards which have made it into a comfortable long distance tourer.
   Regards
     Dave    
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb, what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: D Keeling
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Milich
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10812 From: "D Keeling" <dr.big@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:36 am
Subject: Re: Quota carb
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Hi, capwombat, I checked the timing advance with a strobe before I started the conversion and removing the various inputs from the sensors made no difference to the curve, the only unknown was the TPS, which I could experiment with later, so I went ahead......... with all the inputs removed,  it runs well, but a little more advance at lower revs would help, but it may have been set that way to reduce the torque to protect the drivetrain, or it's off road pretensions, so I may experiment with the TPS, but the curve is as it was with the injection, so I am quite happy.
 Regards
   Dave 
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Also timing control - how is the advance curve controlled now w/o the FI "brain?"

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From: "Charlie Taliaferro" <ctaliafe@quik.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:21:38 -0600
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb, what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: D Keeling
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
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Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10811 From: "D Keeling" <dr.big@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:13 am
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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Hi Charlie, I used a single twin choke Weber which fitted straight onto the inlet manifold in place of the throttle body...originally fitted to the Ford V6 range of cars in the UK. I had to convert the water operated auto choke mechanism to manual, operated by the Guzzi choke lever.
I used the original airbox and made a GRP adaptor which bolts to the top of the carb and is riveted to the base of the airbox after removing the original base, giving it a slightly larger volume, I also had to make up longer choke and throttle cables.
I also removed the solenoid petrol taps and replaced them with Acerbis manual taps, which fit perfectly.
I have also modified the seat, made a two piece adjustable screen and fitted 1150GS handguards which have made it into a comfortable long distance tourer.
   Regards
     Dave    
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb, what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: D Keeling
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Milich
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10810 From: "greenslade.alan" <greenslade.alan@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:01 am
Subject: Teo Lamers Crossover
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Will a Teo Lamers crossover pipe fit straight onto a stock muffler?
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#10809 From: Matt Hitterdal <matt_hitterdal@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:23 am
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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From: Charlie Taliaferro <ctaliafe@...>
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:21 AM

 
Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb, what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: D Keeling
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 
Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes... ...the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Milich
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 
either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitec h.com/Quotanopow er.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox. net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox. net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10808 From: "Ron and Sue Boe" <ronsueboe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:31 pm
Subject: Re: Quota carb
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> On all the Guzzi's I have dyno'd. The  Stock motors not including V11's the
power is at least 64 hp and torque is at almost the same.
> I think you have a bad dyno or a real problem with the bike.
>
> My pipes will bring the torque in a little sooner compared to the stock exh.


I've added a scan of the dyno run. I didn't do one before the pipes were added
but you can see the torque curve is down in the lower rpm range - just where I
can use it.

I need to pull the plugs to see what they look like then pull the tank and see
what the air cleaner looks like.

#10807 From: "Ron and Sue Boe" <ronsueboe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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a Dyno test would be very interesting.
>    Dave


Ooh! Please do!

Ron

#10806 From: "papasloan" <psloan3500@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: Quota carb
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On all the Guzzi's I have dyno'd. The  Stock motors not including V11's the
power is at least 64 hp and torque is at almost the same.
I think you have a bad dyno or a real problem with the bike.

My pipes will bring the torque in a little sooner compared to the stock exh.




--- In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, capwombat@... wrote:
>
> Also timing control - how is the advance curve controlled now w/o the FI
"brain?"
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charlie Taliaferro" <ctaliafe@...>
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:21:38
> To: <Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
>
> Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb,
what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: D Keeling
>   To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
>
>
>
>
>   Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of
putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I
decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have
spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother,
pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with
ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very
reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust
system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be
very interesting.
>      Dave
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Ed Milich
>     To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
>     Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
>     Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
>
>
>
>           either the bike or the dyno is way off.
>
>           http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html
>
>           Ed
>
>           --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@...> wrote:
>
>
>             From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@...>
>             Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
>             To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
>             Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM
>
>
>             I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at
around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.
>
>             Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled
off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off
with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.
>
>             Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that
starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over
an dives with the torque curve.
>
>             The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty
hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with
limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.
>
>             The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the
pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to
compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on
the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.
>
>
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#10805 From: "stuart hall" <sthall1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:12 pm
Subject: 11-7-2009 Kershaw Race Photos
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Hello Everyone, Yesterday was very interesting to say the least. Not exactly the result we all wanted but a great day non the less. Just to have everyone together and share stories and enjoy a sport we all love so much. Thanks Rob!
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#10804 From: capwombat@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: Quota carb
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Also timing control - how is the advance curve controlled now w/o the FI "brain?"

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


From: "Charlie Taliaferro" <ctaliafe@...>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:21:38 -0600
To: <Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb, what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: D Keeling
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Milich
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10803 From: "Charlie Taliaferro" <ctaliafe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:21 am
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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Can you provide more details about your conversion, i.e., single or dual-carb, what type carb, how you adapted the airbox, etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie
 
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From: D Keeling
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Milich
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10802 From: "D Keeling" <dr.big@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: Re: Quota dyno run
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Hi all, very interesting to hear about the Dyno test, after a few months of putting up with the poor fuel injection and 6000miles of varied riding, I decided to remove the fuel injection and fit a carb as per the prototype. I have spent the last few weeks perfecting the conversion and it is now much smoother, pulls from lower revs with no flat spot at 3500rpm and runs to the redline with ease and no pinking on overtakes......the fuel consumption seems very reasonable, but I need to check it over a long run. It has the std exhaust system and std airbox and filter both with minor mods....a Dyno test would be very interesting.
   Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Milich
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run

 

either the bike or the dyno is way off.

http://www.guzzitech.com/Quotanopower.html

Ed

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron and Sue Boe <ronsueboe@cox.net>
Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Quota dyno run
To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:47 PM

I'll scan the graph when I get to work, peak hp was 49.78 at around 6700rpm. Peak torque was 45.73 Ft/lbs at about 3200rpm.

Torque curve was about 45 degrees up from 1700rpm to 3200, rolled off gently with a slight downwards slope to 6500rpm where it started to fall off with the horsepower curve to 8000rpm.

Horsepower curve is much more biased with a 45 degree slope that starts at 1700rpm and 10hp and ramps up to 50 at 6700rpms  where it rolls over an dives with the torque curve.

The bike is supposed to produce about 70hp at the crank.  A twenty hp loss to the rear wheel seems excessive to me (as a wild ass guess made with limit experience) but the bike shop seemed to think this was normal.

The only mod I'm aware of is the Price Sloan exhaust. He says the pipes he makes help produce torque down low. With out an original dyno run to compare to I can't say for sure but this one has a lot very low torque curve on the graph and in the seat of the pants. So I'm quite happy with it.



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#10801 From: "Ron and Sue Boe" <ronsueboe@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 7:59 pm
Subject: Photo's added
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Under Ron's Q ship. A shot of my stainless steel Price Sloan headers, the custom
seat a by a local seat make (same name but not me) that has proved to be better
than the stock seat on a long ride. Just picked up a New Zealand black sheepskin
that Ron custom fit to his seat for me. Have only sat on it on the ride home -
not quite as cushy as I thought it would be - but needs a good long day ride to
see how it works.

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