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Re: ECU's, fuel economy and altitude

Hi Mark
Half Kiwi is good enough!. I am taking the Quota to the annual Guzzi rally in
the South Island in October - but sticking to the tar-seal. The South Island
has lots of adventure rides now - through the high country stations - hundreds
of miles on farm tracks and fantastic scenery. I would like to do some of these
on the Quota - but my biggest concern would be dropping it and smashing up
expensive body parts. I will make up some crash bars one day to lessen the risk
- maybe think about it then.
Regards
Alan NZ


In Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com, Mark Soper <mbopo@...> wrote:
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> Alan,
> That info is available courtesy of Greg Bender's website (a wealth of Quota
and other info generously collected from his own and others' experience...thanks
again Greg)
> http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender/quota.htm.
> Basically it sounds like the later ECU's have an ' i ' at the end of the
number on the sticker.
> btw - I am half NZ...my mother was born there and was not naturalized
Australian until in her sixties. From what I have read and seen the South Island
would be prime Quota
> territory.
> Mark
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> --- On Thu, 6/25/09, greenslade.alan <greenslade.alan@...> wrote:
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> From: greenslade.alan <greenslade.alan@...>
> Subject: [Guzzi_Quota] Re: ECU's, fuel economy and altitude
> To: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 2:28 AM
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> In Guzzi_Quota@ yahoogroups. com, "Dov Bezdezowski" <DovandMolly@ ...> wrote:
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> > If you have the later ECU stick with itm Sell the Power Commander and be
happy.
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> > Done pretty well with the PC3 USB my laptop, Carbtyne glass plug etc.
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> > I still think the Standard later ECU is great.
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> > Spend your money on a real good modification like the Outsider Oil Filter -
now that is a real improvement over taking the sump to change the filter and
having the filter potentionally back out, loose oil pressure and ruin an engine.
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> > --- In Guzzi_Quota@ yahoogroups. com, "mbopo" <mbopo@> wrote:
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> > > I am soon to inherit a Quota with the later ECU. It is also supplied with
a Power Commander (pc) that has been removed - not absolutely sure of the reason
for this. I have been reading a great deal about pc's and ECU mods and
replacement and "Tuneboy", (which I understand provides the laptop-equipped
owner with all the tools needed to fine tune all aspects of the ECU, without the
need for a pc).
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> > > One posting on another site I read indicated that a Power Commander can
only apply changes to the ECU's engine management by applying delays to the
signals the ECU generates. This seems half a&&*d to me...although a great add-on
solution if it works. If.
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> > > I believe Tuneboy can make use of pc maps and interpret them and is also
cheaper than a pc.
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> > > I'm told the bike is running well without the flatspot (it has a modified
airbox and filter and Supertrapp) but I will be bringing it to 4000 ft western
Nebraska from sea level and I hope to optimize the fuel and spark for the best
range from the relatively tiny tank - power increases would be a bonus to me.
Would like to sell the pc if I don't need it. I did read on Greg's website about
the piggyback reprogramm-
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> > > ing of the ECU (done in Italy?) but being involved in electronics through
work, with access to all sorts of test equipment makes me think I could play
with settings myself. Another post suggested trying to finetune a pc without
good access to a dyno is pointless.
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> > > Any views out there on all this? My apologies if, as a new member, I am
dragging up old carcasses.
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I am soon to inherit a Quota with the later ECU. It is also supplied with a Power Commander (pc) that has been removed - not absolutely sure of the reason for...
mbopo
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Jun 24, 2009
11:14 pm

If you have the later ECU stick with itm Sell the Power Commander and be happy. I bought the PC 1st, then found the Later ECU. Done pretty well with the PC3...
Dov Bezdezowski
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Jun 24, 2009
11:34 pm

How can you tell if it is the later ECU? Alan NZ...
greenslade.alan
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Jun 25, 2009
8:35 am

Thanks Dovie. Ive always assumed that fuel injection was the only smart way to burn fuel in an engine (though i used to love tinkering with dellortos much more...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jun 25, 2009
5:29 am

Alan, That info is available courtesy of Greg Bender's website (a wealth of Quota and other info generously collected from his own and others'...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jun 25, 2009
1:05 pm

Hi Mark Half Kiwi is good enough!. I am taking the Quota to the annual Guzzi rally in the South Island in October - but sticking to the tar-seal. The South...
greenslade.alan
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Jul 3, 2009
11:30 pm

Hi Mark, I'm not a fan of the Power Commander...nor of the Open Loop fuel injection system Guzzi put on the all but the most recent of models. IMO, open loop...
Greg Bender
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Jun 25, 2009
1:46 pm

While I am one of those who has had moderately-good results with the PC connected to the updated ECU, I would tend to agree that it's not worth the investment...
Charlie Taliaferro
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Jun 25, 2009
1:59 pm

Charlie, Stuart, Greg, Thanks so much for the input. I'll have more to report when I get the Guzzi - maybe not any issues in this area but I like the idea of...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jun 25, 2009
3:58 pm

  The Power Commander may not be for everyone, no doubt... but it is simply the best solution for *reliably* modifying the fuel mapping. There should be...
Todd Eagan
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Jun 28, 2009
5:37 pm

Hey Todd, I ask knowingly, you wouldn't know where a person could buy one of those wonderous devices would you? :)...
J. Oliver
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Jun 30, 2009
2:53 am

Hi Todd, I do not want to question your opinion on the PC, I am sure it must be a great tool. But I think it may be wise to elaborate on how it is to be used....
Dick Lampe
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Jun 30, 2009
8:27 pm

I am not always good at reading the tone of people's text, but if that was a serious question i will do you a very good deal on a pc with a Quota map already...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jun 30, 2009
5:32 am

A response to Todd flogging his wares, it was intended as tongue-in-cheek....
J. Oliver
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Jul 1, 2009
4:11 am

Figured as much, but used it as an excuse to try to flog some of my stuff too. ... From: J. Oliver <john.oliver@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jul 1, 2009
11:37 am

I certainly hope the Quota gang isn't turning into a bunch of floggers.... ;>) _____ Van: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com]...
Dick Lampe
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Jul 1, 2009
5:35 pm

Yes...my apologies - I for one will try to keep the blatant selling (and flogging) off the forum, and hope when I receive my Quota (Tuesday) and start to ride...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jul 1, 2009
10:17 pm

Hi Mark, No worries...Dick was just throwing in some humor :> :> :> Selling of Guzzi parts, especially Quota parts, is more than welcome on this list. Now, you...
Greg Bender
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Jul 2, 2009
12:15 pm

Hi Mark, I second that, so don't worry. This group is a very nice crowd to be in, and a little jest every now and then just keeps things a little lively. The...
Dick Lampe
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Jul 2, 2009
8:44 pm

i appreciate that guys...so is it still within the bounds to try to flog my 900 SS here if the reason I am selling it is to make room for the Quota?    ;~)I...
Mark Soper
mbopo
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Jul 2, 2009
9:03 pm

will you ship that Duc overseas to Europe ;>) _____ Van: Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Guzzi_Quota@yahoogroups.com] Namens Mark Soper Verzonden:...
Dick Lampe
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Jul 2, 2009
9:26 pm

Dick, I will ship it to Venus if someone wants to pay...is Venus that city with the water problem? ... From: Dick Lampe <d.lampe@...> Sent: Thursday,...
Mark Soper
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Jul 2, 2009
10:34 pm

Alan, post some photos of your adventures - nothing too scenic - don't want to make us all jealous! Good luck with the crashbars. I will probably make my own...
Mark Soper
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Jul 5, 2009
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