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Mar 1, 2003
11:48 am
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... This thread seems to have taken a somewhat negative tone with regard to what can be expected from Water Injection. Id like to chime in on the side of ...
Paul Elliott
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Mar 1, 2003
4:36 pm
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... It looks like you can only turn the pump on at a set parameter, and not vary the pump speed with boost, etc. Or can you? From reading the PDF it doesn't...
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Mar 1, 2003
6:50 pm
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Its been a while since I've read it, but I think it varies pump speed via a PMW output based on a 0-5v input: http://www.gonzonx.com/articles/ztswi3.html ...
Grant Beaty
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Mar 1, 2003
10:17 pm
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... Using a PWM signal to a pump is problematic as the response is very non-lineary; doubling the the PWM from 25% to 50% could cause the output pressure to go...
Eric Fahlgren
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Mar 3, 2003
12:52 am
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While your M3 is definitely bad-a**, I think we shoul run the numbers and calculate the true efficiency you're receiving w/ WI. What size nozzle(s) are you ...
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Mar 3, 2003
1:17 am
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HI Terry, ... For example, 50% methanol from a 1mm jet equates to 167cc of methanol per minute, for 350HP requires approximately 2 litre of fuel, the methanol...
Paul Elliott
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Mar 3, 2003
1:27 am
1898
Do people find that an ignition amp is desirable when w/i is used? For exmpale an MSD DIS-2 or HKS Twin or some such. I would think the combination of water...
Geoff <mrcoder@...>
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Mar 3, 2003
4:10 pm
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Here is what I keep hearing: All the guys with small/no intercoolers feel a huge gain. All the guys with large intercoolers notice less results. I wonder if...
Martin Check
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Mar 3, 2003
10:33 pm
1900
I do not yet have a WI system running, but I would like to point out that power gains are not the only benefit of a water injection system. This is obviously ...
Adrian Hains
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Mar 4, 2003
5:34 am
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... All the guys with small/no intercoolers feel a huge gain. All the guys with large intercoolers notice less results. << Think about it . Lets say somebody...
Paul Elliott
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Mar 4, 2003
2:16 pm
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Adrian, Most of us have heard these things before, but probably not too many have had their heads off after installing it. I have had my head off multiple...
Terry G. Livermore
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Mar 4, 2003
5:48 pm
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:48:46 -0800 ... If you already have a WI setup installed, it takes very little work or money to also install a radiator sprayer. One...
Joshua Wingell
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Mar 4, 2003
5:51 pm
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I think cooling is actually a big plus, but not because water injection actually cools your coolant, but because it allows you to run a smaller sized...
Martin Check
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Mar 4, 2003
5:53 pm
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I suppose the benefit would be improved by using a liquid with a lower latent heat of vaporization. I don't know of anything better than water or methanol, ...
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wmcgf
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Mar 4, 2003
5:57 pm
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Having just swapped a head gasket on my car in a Stuckey's parking lot 800 miles from home, I can say that I had quite a bit of carbon on my motor (which has...
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Mar 4, 2003
6:18 pm
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I've got the blue accumulator/shock arrestor sold by georges imports, it holds about half a cup. As strange as it may seem it doesn't run inline but rather...
Jeremy Ho
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Mar 5, 2003
2:23 pm
1908
Jeremy - What does this thing look like, do you have a pic? Kind of sounds like one of those deals you can buy at the hardware store called the Water Hammer...
Ray Dorman
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Mar 5, 2003
4:24 pm
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This has the bladder inside.. It's the blue ball in the pics here (not my car): http://members.shaw.ca/turbofiero/Water%202.htm ... like ... Water ... I'd ... ...
Jeremy Ho
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Mar 5, 2003
5:30 pm
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The little blue accumulator definitely helps to lower the duty cycle on the pump. The only thing that would help it more would be to have a larger ...
Scott A. Willard
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Mar 6, 2003
1:22 pm
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What bugs me is that the pump doesn't charge it up until the accumulater falls below a certain level. Since I wanted an accumulator just to get rid of the...
Jeremy Ho
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Mar 6, 2003
1:42 pm
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:41:58 -0000 ... There is a solenoid available at McMaster Carr that goes for $18 that will work perfectly for our water injection ...
Joshua Wingell
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Mar 6, 2003
2:00 pm
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Jeremy, In the picture I notice 2 parts in particular: The Aquamist Solenoid Valve part no. 806-234, and what's referred to as ' Aquamist Pressure Accumulator...
Paul Elliott
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Mar 6, 2003
2:05 pm
1914
Paul, I have the same setup you have. As far as I can tell, the aquamist 1s system (just a pump and a pressure switch) is designed perfectly for any nozzle up...
Martin Check
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Mar 6, 2003
6:01 pm
1915
I need some help to troubleshoot a problem with my shurflo pump. I found that sometimes the pump doesn't come on even when there is power going to it. I know...
Jeremy Ho
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Mar 6, 2003
6:32 pm
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Jeremy, I run three nozzles off of my 100 psi shurflo pump and one accumulator. My pump will cycle on and off even as these three nozzles are running. It...
Scott A. Willard
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Mar 7, 2003
12:52 pm
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... aquamist 1s system (just a pump and a pressure switch) is designed perfectly for any nozzle up to .9mm, or maybe 1.0. << Yea Martin, I guess youre right in...
Paul Elliott
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Mar 7, 2003
2:11 pm
1918
Have you guys tried to fire the aquamist 1S pump and the nozzle out in the open, look at it and you don't see any pulses in the stream, at all? ... to work ......
Jeremy Ho
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Mar 7, 2003
11:17 pm
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Yep. At least it was that way when I tested it with my .7 nozzle. Now that I have both a .6 and a .9 nozzle, I can't promise it's the same, but it'd be easy...
Martin Check
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Mar 7, 2003
11:19 pm
1920
I'm debating running WI on my 2G DSM ESP race car. I run race gas, I'm not having any issues with detonation, but with a T25 pushing close on 20psi I do suffer...
Charles Moss
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Mar 8, 2003
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