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Yes, it does complete the circuit. When you hit the kill switch or
shut off the ignition (key) switch, you short circuit the power going
from the stator to the CDI. (you ground the system) thus shutting down
the ignition system.



--- In Chinese_scooter_forum@yahoogroups.com, "tankeryankertoo"
<adamxii@...> wrote:
>
> Anybody know how the kill switch works? I can't find it on the wiring
> diagram. Does it complete a circuit, or does it ground out the primary
> circuit? When I pulled it out to check it I found that it had two
> sections (DPDT?)but only one side seemed to work. When the switch was
> in the kill position the circuit was complete. I was unable to get a
> reading on the other side no matter what position the switch was in.
> The plug will fit in either side.
>

Anybody know how the kill switch works? I can't find it on the wiring
diagram. Does it complete a circuit, or does it ground out the primary
circuit? When I pulled it out to check it I found that it had two
sections (DPDT?)but only one side seemed to work. When the switch was
in the kill position the circuit was complete. I was unable to get a
reading on the other side no matter what position the switch was in.
The plug will fit in either side.

this is a post that is gonna be hard to answer.

anybody that has a gy6 150, the regulator/stator wires accessable, and
has a multimeter handy

could you please let me know a couple of things.

#1 how many wires come out of the stator (and what colors ?)

#2 with the bike running what voltages do you record on each of those
wires you just mentioned

#3 what size/shape is your voltage regulator?
     (how many and what color are the wires?)

i ask these since as some of you know my tt150 is down for the stator
and voltage regulator.  I've googled alot of research and decidedly
came to the conclusion the my stator fried my regulator.

in trying to locate replacements... lets just say I doubt my bike will
run again before winter sets in.

and i would love to know what a normal gy6 stator "puts out"

thank you.

'g'

--- In Chinese_scooter_forum@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew"
<gutternuts@...> wrote:
>
> when u replaced the plug what did you replace it with ?
>
> u may find different plugs provide spark where others didnt. case
in
> point i bought a plug from Stan. It was the MRP replacement for the
> original, not the iridium.  The MRP plug fires fine, whereas the
> original plug misses.  Then theres also the iridium plug.
>
> when did u notice the problem ?  what was going on at the time?
>
> my 150DE scooter started instantly with the original plug, but
missed
> under load, Stans MRP plug is a harder start for me, but it doesnt
> miss when i'm driving.
>
> just a couple more things to think about.
>
> 'g'
>It wouldn't start last week. I had parked it the night before. The
original plug was still in it. I replaced it with the iridium plug
with the same result. Both plugs emit a very weak spark that is
barely visible when the plug is removed and grounded. The starter
spins just fine. Due to the sudden onset of this I suspect CDI,
coil, or possibly the magnito assembly.


> --- In Chinese_scooter_forum@yahoogroups.com, "tankeryankertoo"
> <adamxii@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2006 150 Touring DE that has a weak spark & won't
start. I
> > replaced the plug, NADA. I have ordered a new coil & CDI. Now I
hear
> > about Magnito problems with the 2006 model. Guess I'll try that
IF the
> > CDI/coil dosen't help. I can't find any way other than
replacement to
> > check these. Haynes manual says "replace with known good part.
If that
> > works then the old one was bad".(Do ya think?)
> > Expensive method tho.
> > I would think that if I'm getting a spark, albeit a very weak
one
> > (yellow, not blue) than I could rule stuff out like faulty kill
switch
> > which I almost never use.
> >
>

when u replaced the plug what did you replace it with ?

u may find different plugs provide spark where others didnt. case in
point i bought a plug from Stan. It was the MRP replacement for the
original, not the iridium.  The MRP plug fires fine, whereas the
original plug misses.  Then theres also the iridium plug.

when did u notice the problem ?  what was going on at the time?

my 150DE scooter started instantly with the original plug, but missed
under load, Stans MRP plug is a harder start for me, but it doesnt
miss when i'm driving.

just a couple more things to think about.

'g'

--- In Chinese_scooter_forum@yahoogroups.com, "tankeryankertoo"
<adamxii@...> wrote:
>
> I have a 2006 150 Touring DE that has a weak spark & won't start. I
> replaced the plug, NADA. I have ordered a new coil & CDI. Now I hear
> about Magnito problems with the 2006 model. Guess I'll try that IF the
> CDI/coil dosen't help. I can't find any way other than replacement to
> check these. Haynes manual says "replace with known good part. If that
> works then the old one was bad".(Do ya think?)
> Expensive method tho.
> I would think that if I'm getting a spark, albeit a very weak one
> (yellow, not blue) than I could rule stuff out like faulty kill switch
> which I almost never use.
>

I have a 2006 150 Touring DE that has a weak spark & won't start. I
replaced the plug, NADA. I have ordered a new coil & CDI. Now I hear
about Magnito problems with the 2006 model. Guess I'll try that IF the
CDI/coil dosen't help. I can't find any way other than replacement to
check these. Haynes manual says "replace with known good part. If that
works then the old one was bad".(Do ya think?)
Expensive method tho.
I would think that if I'm getting a spark, albeit a very weak one
(yellow, not blue) than I could rule stuff out like faulty kill switch
which I almost never use.

I found this info on JC Whitney's site on the page for motorcycle
batteries. I found it to be most informative. (my boss is gonna be so
impressed when I rattle off this info. off the top of my head...LOL)

"Amp Hrs: Indicates battery capacity—a scientific measurement that
relates ampere-hour at a 10-hour rate or AH (10H-R). The number shows
the total number of amps that can be discharged (used) at a
consistent, even rate from a fully charged battery over 10 hours and
still leave the battery with 10 volts of power (12-volt battery) or
5-1/2 volts (6-volt battery).
CCA: Indicates cold cranking amps (or starting power) for a fully
charged battery for 30 seconds at 0° F. 6-volt batteries do not carry
this rating."

Don, that light comes on to indicate a full charge, I'll bet.

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> yeah, harbor freight.. and it was "cheap" even cheaper now when i
see their ads.. but there is one little square black box on the wires
between the wall transformer and the clips (which i removed and put a
power plug on).. i was expecting to see some kind of meter or
something too.. but there's only a red light on that black box, which
turns on when i plug it to the battery, even before i plug it into the
wall socket
> it never goes out to indicate full charge or anything.. maybe its
just decoration,. like my stuck gas gauge (its either full or empty,
never anywhere inbetween)
>
>
> i filled the battery just above the plates so they weren't
touching the bottom of the strip.. just touching that plastic piece
inside where the holes were above the plates. water came up to that level.
>
> i am going to look at the battery compartment again tonight..
haven't had it on the charger since this issue came up... i'll see if
its wet again (if so, probably from the pounding on the road/streets)
and the lose capstrip... if it isn't. then it probably was the boil
over.. i'll let you know..
>
> i'm gonna hold off on buying another battery til absolutely
necessary.. i got nearly 1000km on the scoot and if the other problems
cursing other people --that i've read--- start to happen to me, i'm
gonna need to have cash to take care of those first..
>
> i'll let you know.
> '
> don
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:
> Don, did you get your float charger from Harbor Freight? A
little
> cheapie? I'm not sure, but I think I might have the same one. Got it
> for x-mas last year. Looks like a wall transformer with mini clamps on
> the end of 2 really skinny wires.
> This one claims to not over charge the battery, but I doubt that claim.
> It would have to have some electronics in it to do that, and I don't
> see any signs of any. I have never used this charger. I bought a
> charger that has some electronics in it to let you know how much
> charge you are putting into the battery.
> I got mine at WallyWorld, for $29.99, on sale.
> I don't think you really damaged your battery by adding a little
> water, but I have a feeling that the reason it is leaking is because
> the battery is too full now.
> I don't know what to suggest, other than replacing it. You can't just
> pour some of the electrolyte out (it's sulfuric acid), and you
> shouldn't be riding around with it leaking all the time.
> Let us know what you decide,
>
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > thanks,, darn, then what they told me about "float charging" or
> trickle charging isn't true, that it would never over charge your
> battery and that it would shut off automatically when charging was
> complete.. guess i'll only do the charge once in a couple of weeks as
> a "top off" measure and even then, only a few hours.
> > i added some water but it didn't really amount to much... so i
> dont know how diluted the electrolyte might have become.. it hasn't
> given me any trouble starting.. but who knows about the future.. i'll
> keep an eye on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@> wrote:
> > Ok, after all the problems everyone has had with their
> batteries, I
> > called and spoke to the local "Interstate Batteries" rep.
> > Here's the scoop.
> > Small batteries like the ones on our scooters, will be damaged by
> > adding water to them, because their volume is so small, it dilutes the
> > electrolyte too much, and they will never hold a charge after
doing so.
> > If the plates aren't covered at start up, then more ELECTROLYTE must
> > be added, NOT water. This can be purchased at some auto parts stores,
> > or at Interstate Batteries.
> > Also, Wet cell batteries should only be charged for the same amount of
> > hours they are discharged for. ie: 3hrs driving = 3hrs charging.
> > Longer charging will boil the electrolyte out of the battery.
> > If you charging system is causing the battery to biol over, check the
> > voltage regulater, it may be letting too much power to go to the
> battery.
> >
> > Sparky
> >
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> yeah, harbor freight.. and it was "cheap"  even cheaper now when i
see their ads..  but there is one little square black box on the wires
between the wall transformer and the clips (which i removed and put a
power plug on)..   i was expecting to see some kind of meter or
something too.. but there's only a red light on that black box, which
turns on when i plug it to the battery, even before i plug it into the
wall socket
>   it never goes out to indicate full charge or anything.. maybe its
just decoration,. like my stuck gas gauge (its either full or empty,
never anywhere inbetween)
>
>
>   i filled the battery just above the plates so they weren't
touching the bottom of the strip.. just touching that plastic piece
inside where the holes were above the plates. water came up to that level.
>
>   i am going to look at the battery compartment again tonight..
haven't had it on the charger since this issue came up... i'll see if
its wet again (if so, probably from the pounding on the road/streets)
and the lose capstrip...  if it isn't. then it probably was the boil
over.. i'll let you know..
>
>   i'm gonna hold off on buying another battery til absolutely
necessary.. i got nearly 1000km on the scoot and if the other problems
cursing other people --that i've read--- start to happen to me, i'm
gonna need to have cash to take care of those first..
>
>   i'll let you know.
>   '
>   don
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:
>           Don, did you get your float charger from Harbor Freight? A
little
> cheapie? I'm not sure, but I think I might have the same one. Got it
> for x-mas last year. Looks like a wall transformer with mini clamps on
> the end of 2 really skinny wires.
> This one claims to not over charge the battery, but I doubt that claim.
> It would have to have some electronics in it to do that, and I don't
> see any signs of any. I have never used this charger. I bought a
> charger that has some electronics in it to let you know how much
> charge you are putting into the battery.
> I got mine at WallyWorld, for $29.99, on sale.
> I don't think you really damaged your battery by adding a little
> water, but I have a feeling that the reason it is leaking is because
> the battery is too full now.
> I don't know what to suggest, other than replacing it. You can't just
> pour some of the electrolyte out (it's sulfuric acid), and you
> shouldn't be riding around with it leaking all the time.
> Let us know what you decide,
>
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > thanks,, darn, then what they told me about "float charging" or
> trickle charging isn't true, that it would never over charge your
> battery and that it would shut off automatically when charging was
> complete.. guess i'll only do the charge once in a couple of weeks as
> a "top off" measure and even then, only a few hours.
> > i added some water but it didn't really amount to much... so i
> dont know how diluted the electrolyte might have become.. it hasn't
> given me any trouble starting.. but who knows about the future.. i'll
> keep an eye on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@> wrote:
> > Ok, after all the problems everyone has had with their
> batteries, I
> > called and spoke to the local "Interstate Batteries" rep.
> > Here's the scoop.
> > Small batteries like the ones on our scooters, will be damaged by
> > adding water to them, because their volume is so small, it dilutes the
> > electrolyte too much, and they will never hold a charge after
doing so.
> > If the plates aren't covered at start up, then more ELECTROLYTE must
> > be added, NOT water. This can be purchased at some auto parts stores,
> > or at Interstate Batteries.
> > Also, Wet cell batteries should only be charged for the same amount of
> > hours they are discharged for. ie: 3hrs driving = 3hrs charging.
> > Longer charging will boil the electrolyte out of the battery.
> > If you charging system is causing the battery to biol over, check the
> > voltage regulater, it may be letting too much power to go to the
> battery.
> >
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Don, did you get your float charger from Harbor Freight? A little
cheapie? I'm not sure, but I think I might have the same one. Got it
for x-mas last year. Looks like a wall transformer with mini clamps on
the end of 2 really skinny wires.
This one claims to not over charge the battery, but I doubt that claim.
It would have to have some electronics in it to do that, and I don't
see any signs of any. I have never used this charger. I bought a
charger that has some electronics in it to let you know how much
charge you are putting into the battery.
I got mine at WallyWorld, for $29.99, on sale.
I don't think you really damaged your battery by adding a little
water, but I have a feeling that the reason it is leaking is because
the battery is too full now.
I don't know what to suggest, other than replacing it. You can't just
pour some of the electrolyte out (it's sulfuric acid), and you
shouldn't be riding around with it leaking all the time.
Let us know what you decide,

Sparky

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> thanks,, darn, then what they told me about "float charging" or
trickle charging isn't true, that it would never over charge your
battery and that it would shut off automatically when charging was
complete.. guess i'll only do the charge once in a couple of weeks as
a "top off" measure and even then, only a few hours.
> i added some water but it didn't really amount to much... so i
dont know how diluted the electrolyte might have become.. it hasn't
given me any trouble starting.. but who knows about the future.. i'll
keep an eye on it.
>
>
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:
> Ok, after all the problems everyone has had with their
batteries, I
> called and spoke to the local "Interstate Batteries" rep.
> Here's the scoop.
> Small batteries like the ones on our scooters, will be damaged by
> adding water to them, because their volume is so small, it dilutes the
> electrolyte too much, and they will never hold a charge after doing so.
> If the plates aren't covered at start up, then more ELECTROLYTE must
> be added, NOT water. This can be purchased at some auto parts stores,
> or at Interstate Batteries.
> Also, Wet cell batteries should only be charged for the same amount of
> hours they are discharged for. ie: 3hrs driving = 3hrs charging.
> Longer charging will boil the electrolyte out of the battery.
> If you charging system is causing the battery to biol over, check the
> voltage regulater, it may be letting too much power to go to the
battery.
>
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Don, did you get your float charger from Harbor Freight? A little
cheapie? I'm not sure, but I think I might have the same one. Got it
for x-mas last year. Looks like a wall transformer with mini clamps on
the end of 2 really skinny wires.
This one claims to not over charge the battery, but I doubt that claim.
It would have to have some electronics in it to do that, and I don't
see any signs of any. I have never used this charger. I bought a
charger that has some electronics in it to let you know how much
charge you are putting into the battery.
I got mine at WallyWorld, for $29.99, on sale.
I don't think you really damaged your battery by adding a little
water, but I have a feeling that the reason it is leaking is because
the battery is too full now.
I don't know what to suggest, other than replacing it. You can't just
pour some of the electrolyte out (it's sulfuric acid), and you
shouldn't be riding around with it leaking all the time.
Let us know what you decide,

Sparky





--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> thanks,, darn, then what they told me about "float charging" or
trickle charging isn't true, that it would never over charge your
battery and that it would shut off automatically when charging was
complete.. guess i'll only do the charge once in a couple of weeks as
a "top off" measure and even then, only a few hours.
>   i added some water but it didn't really amount to much... so i
dont know how diluted the electrolyte might have become.. it hasn't
given me any trouble starting.. but who knows about the future.. i'll
keep an eye on it.
>
>
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:
>           Ok, after all the problems everyone has had with their
batteries, I
> called and spoke to the local "Interstate Batteries" rep.
> Here's the scoop.
> Small batteries like the ones on our scooters, will be damaged by
> adding water to them, because their volume is so small, it dilutes the
> electrolyte too much, and they will never hold a charge after doing so.
> If the plates aren't covered at start up, then more ELECTROLYTE must
> be added, NOT water. This can be purchased at some auto parts stores,
> or at Interstate Batteries.
> Also, Wet cell batteries should only be charged for the same amount of
> hours they are discharged for. ie: 3hrs driving = 3hrs charging.
> Longer charging will boil the electrolyte out of the battery.
> If you charging system is causing the battery to biol over, check the
> voltage regulater, it may be letting too much power to go to the
battery.
>
> Sparky
>
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when i got the battery and filled it, it did not have enough acid to cover the plates so i did add distilled water to that point.  pressed the capstrip on as tight as it would go and didn't pay it any more attention since it hasn't given me any problems in this month (been putting the float charger on it almost every night).. but when i noticed the droplets, last night i checked the battery.. and the wetness originates from the capstrip.. where it seems to be leaking... enough to have some amount of fluid under the battery (in the box).. i cleaned that out and wiped the battery dry, including the strip and put it back in place..  i have not reconnected the float charger so if it was 'boil over' like sparky mentioned, i'll know if its wet again along the strip.. 

 

i hope it's just the bumping around on the roads here in SF, but even then it shouldnt leak out of the capstrip... i'll check it again in a couple of days to see. if there really is alot of wetness again, I'll look to getting another battery..  are there just replacement caps i can buy to maybe stop this?

Stan Jessup <ndnparts@yahoo.com> wrote:

Electrical tape is not going to stop it. When you filled the battery, are you sure the plates were covered with acid? The OEM batteries in the China scooters have a terrible track record, so I'd expect to need to replace it soon either way. You really need to remove the battery to inspect it for any cause of the acid leak. Rinse off the spil and put some baking soda on it to neutralize the acid, then rinse again. If you can get the cap off and there are no cracks in the case, check the fluid level and top it off with distilled water, then replace the cap strip making sure it's fully seated. The OEM battery is not vented with a hose, so the acid leak really needs to be addressed before it does some damarge. Stan

don <dcsf2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

that's what i thought, hoping its just due to the shaking and bouncing on the road, but if the strip is not tight, would it be bad to put electrical tape over it ?

trying to avoid having to replace the battery so soon... not yet a month on the road. (got it "legal" on aug 2.)

Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:

Well, not "pound on it" exactly, but tap on it to be sure each little
"cap" snaps in place.
If that doesn't fix it, your battery may be defective, 'cause it
shouldn't leak electrolyte at all.

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> i need pound it on with a hammer (even though instructions said to
just press it on).. i leave the tender on it now and then, not
everynight.. but it's supposed to have an automatic shut off.. (got
the thing through harbor freight.com as suggested from the other
forum).. it is like droplets of fluid... but i haven't opened up the
cover yet to see how wet the bottom of the battery might be... the
strip on one end seemed wetter than the other end.. overall i'd say
i've found less than 1/2 tsp so far.
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote: Nope, the one it
came with is the only thing that will fit it.
> How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
> Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
> (just wondering if it could be boil-over)
> Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
> seal real tight...
>
> Let me know,
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > sparky.
> >
> > just found something of concern.... the cap strip
> > to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof.. after
> > going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> > are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> > of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> > not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> > but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> > that has leaked out of the cap/strip and somehow
> > formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> > box (enclosure)
> >
> > i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> > wipe it out completely... but question.. is there
> > another strip i can replace this with so that it
> > doesn't leak?
> >
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Ok, after all the problems everyone has had with their batteries, I
called and spoke to the local "Interstate Batteries" rep.
Here's the scoop.
Small batteries like the ones on our scooters, will be damaged by
adding water to them, because their volume is so small, it dilutes the
electrolyte too much, and they will never hold a charge after doing so.
If the plates aren't covered at start up, then more ELECTROLYTE must
be added, NOT water. This can be purchased at some auto parts stores,
or at Interstate Batteries.
Also, Wet cell batteries should only be charged for the same amount of
hours they are discharged for. ie: 3hrs driving = 3hrs charging.
Longer charging will boil the electrolyte out of the battery.
If you charging system is causing the battery to biol over, check the
voltage regulater, it may be letting too much power to go to the battery.

Sparky

Ok, after all the problems everyone has had with their batteries, I
called and spoke to the local "Interstate Batteries" rep.
Here's the scoop.
Small batteries like the ones on our scooters, will be damaged by
adding water to them, because their volume is so small, it dilutes the
electrolyte too much, and they will never hold a charge after doing so.
If the plates aren't covered at start up, then more ELECTROLYTE must
be added, NOT water. This can be purchased at some auto parts stores,
or at Interstate Batteries.
Also, Wet cell batteries should only be charged for the same amount of
hours they are discharged for. ie: 3hrs driving = 3hrs charging.
Longer charging will boil the electrolyte out of the battery.
If you charging system is causing the battery to biol over, check the
voltage regulater, it may be letting too much power to go to the battery.

Sparky

Electrical tape is not going to stop it. When you filled the battery, are you sure the plates were covered with acid? The OEM batteries in the China scooters have a terrible track record, so I'd expect to need to replace it soon either way. You really need to remove the battery to inspect it for any cause of the acid leak. Rinse off the spil and put some baking soda on it to neutralize the acid, then rinse again. If you can get the cap off and there are no cracks in the case, check the fluid level and top it off with distilled water, then replace the cap strip making sure it's fully seated. The OEM battery is not vented with a hose, so the acid leak really needs to be addressed before it does some damarge. Stan

don <dcsf2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

that's what i thought, hoping its just due to the shaking and bouncing on the road, but if the strip is not tight, would it be bad to put electrical tape over it ?

trying to avoid having to replace the battery so soon... not yet a month on the road. (got it "legal" on aug 2.)

Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:

Well, not "pound on it" exactly, but tap on it to be sure each little
"cap" snaps in place.
If that doesn't fix it, your battery may be defective, 'cause it
shouldn't leak electrolyte at all.

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> i need pound it on with a hammer (even though instructions said to
just press it on).. i leave the tender on it now and then, not
everynight.. but it's supposed to have an automatic shut off.. (got
the thing through harbor freight.com as suggested from the other
forum).. it is like droplets of fluid... but i haven't opened up the
cover yet to see how wet the bottom of the battery might be... the
strip on one end seemed wetter than the other end.. overall i'd say
i've found less than 1/2 tsp so far.
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote: Nope, the one it
came with is the only thing that will fit it.
> How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
> Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
> (just wondering if it could be boil-over)
> Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
> seal real tight...
>
> Let me know,
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > sparky.
> >
> > just found something of concern.... the cap strip
> > to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof.. after
> > going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> > are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> > of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> > not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> > but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> > that has leaked out of the cap/strip and somehow
> > formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> > box (enclosure)
> >
> > i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> > wipe it out completely... but question.. is there
> > another strip i can replace this with so that it
> > doesn't leak?
> >
> >
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that's what i thought, hoping its just due to the shaking and bouncing on the road, but if the strip is not tight, would it be bad to put electrical tape over it ?

trying to avoid having to replace the battery so soon... not yet a month on the road. (got it "legal" on aug 2.)

Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:

Well, not "pound on it" exactly, but tap on it to be sure each little
"cap" snaps in place.
If that doesn't fix it, your battery may be defective, 'cause it
shouldn't leak electrolyte at all.

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> i need pound it on with a hammer (even though instructions said to
just press it on).. i leave the tender on it now and then, not
everynight.. but it's supposed to have an automatic shut off.. (got
the thing through harbor freight.com as suggested from the other
forum).. it is like droplets of fluid... but i haven't opened up the
cover yet to see how wet the bottom of the battery might be... the
strip on one end seemed wetter than the other end.. overall i'd say
i've found less than 1/2 tsp so far.
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote: Nope, the one it
came with is the only thing that will fit it.
> How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
> Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
> (just wondering if it could be boil-over)
> Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
> seal real tight...
>
> Let me know,
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > sparky.
> >
> > just found something of concern.... the cap strip
> > to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof.. after
> > going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> > are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> > of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> > not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> > but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> > that has leaked out of the cap/strip and somehow
> > formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> > box (enclosure)
> >
> > i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> > wipe it out completely... but question.. is there
> > another strip i can replace this with so that it
> > doesn't leak?
> >
> >
> >
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Well, not "pound on it" exactly, but tap on it to be sure each little
"cap" snaps in place.
If that doesn't fix it, your battery may be defective, 'cause it
shouldn't leak electrolyte at all.

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> i need pound it on with a hammer (even though instructions said to
just press it on).. i leave the tender on it now and then, not
everynight.. but it's supposed to have an automatic shut off.. (got
the thing through harbor freight.com as suggested from the other
forum).. it is like droplets of fluid... but i haven't opened up the
cover yet to see how wet the bottom of the battery might be... the
strip on one end seemed wetter than the other end.. overall i'd say
i've found less than 1/2 tsp so far.
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote: Nope, the one it
came with is the only thing that will fit it.
> How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
> Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
> (just wondering if it could be boil-over)
> Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
> seal real tight...
>
> Let me know,
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > sparky.
> >
> > just found something of concern.... the cap strip
> > to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof.. after
> > going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> > are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> > of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> > not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> > but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> > that has leaked out of the cap/strip and somehow
> > formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> > box (enclosure)
> >
> > i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> > wipe it out completely... but question.. is there
> > another strip i can replace this with so that it
> > doesn't leak?
> >
> >
> >
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Well, not "pound on it" exactly, but tap on it to be sure each little
"cap" snaps in place.
If that doesn't fix it, your battery may be defective, 'cause it
shouldn't leak electrolyte at all.





--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> i need pound it on with a hammer (even though instructions said to
just press it on).. i leave the tender on it now and then, not
everynight.. but it's supposed to have an automatic shut off.. (got
the thing through harbor freight.com as suggested from the other
forum).. it is like droplets of fluid... but i haven't opened up the
cover yet to see how wet the bottom of the battery might be... the
strip on one end seemed wetter than the other end.. overall i'd say
i've found less than 1/2 tsp so far.
>
> Sparky Alex <viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:          Nope, the one it
came with is the only thing that will fit it.
> How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
> Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
> (just wondering if it could be boil-over)
> Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
> seal real tight...
>
> Let me know,
> Sparky
>
> --- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > sparky.
> >
> > just found something of concern.... the cap strip
> > to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof.. after
> > going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> > are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> > of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> > not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> > but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> > that has leaked out of the cap/strip and somehow
> > formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> > box (enclosure)
> >
> > i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> > wipe it out completely... but question.. is there
> > another strip i can replace this with so that it
> > doesn't leak?
> >
> >
> >
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Nope, the one it came with is the only thing that will fit it.
How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
(just wondering if it could be boil-over)
Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
seal real tight...

Let me know,
Sparky

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> sparky.
>
> just found something of concern.... the cap strip
> to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof.. after
> going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> that has leaked out of the cap/strip and somehow
> formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> box (enclosure)
>
> i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> wipe it out completely... but question.. is there
> another strip i can replace this with so that it
> doesn't leak?
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
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Nope, the one it came with is the only thing that will fit it.
How much fluid are we talking about? Less than a 1/2 teaspoon I hope.
Next question; are you putting it on a battery tender at night?
(just wondering if it could be boil-over)
Did you use a hammer to put the capstrip on the battery? It has to
seal real tight...

Let me know,
Sparky




--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, don <dcsf2001@...>
wrote:
>
> sparky.
>
> just found something of concern....    the cap strip
> to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof..  after
> going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
> are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
> of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
> not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
> but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
> that has leaked out of the cap/strip  and somehow
> formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
> box (enclosure)
>
> i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
> wipe it out completely...  but question.. is there
> another strip i can replace this with so that it
> doesn't leak?
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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sparky.

just found something of concern....    the cap strip
to my battery doesn't seem to be leak proof..  after
going all through SF on its "off roads" roads ---there
are few smooth streets in SF--- i noticed some spots
of liquid in the under compartment, by the battery..
not knowing what this was at first i passed it off,
but upon closer inspection i see it's battery fluid
that has leaked out of the cap/strip  and somehow
formed droplets on the plastic outside of the battery
box (enclosure)

i've wiped it off but probably have to uncover it and
wipe it out completely...  but question.. is there
another strip i can replace this with so that it
doesn't leak?



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Hi Don,
Yeah, I agree, any filter will work. I use one that has a bronze
element in it, it strains out the bugs, and allows faster fuel
delivery. And an easy replacement for those wire hose "holders" (can't
call 'em clamps) is to use small wire ties. You can pull them tight
with a pair of needle nose pliers. When it comes time to replace the
filter, just snip off the ties with a small pair of diagonal pliers
(dikes), and use new ones for the new filter.

--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, Stan Jessup
<ndnparts@...> wrote:
>
> Any filter will work, but just ask them to cross over a 3011 NAPA
filter and you'll be in good shape. By all means replace all of the
spring clamps on the fuel lines. I also suggest replacing all of the
lines for both fuel and vacuum so you don't have problems with kinking
and collapsing. Stan
>
> http://www.oregonvintage.com
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: donchan
> To: Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:53 PM
> Subject: [Chinese_scooter_help_forum] Re: Hey all
>
>
>
> hey sparky
> got a question for you.. i think i'm going to have to change out my
> fuel filter cuz i noticed a wetness around the juncture of it and the
> line from the gas tank.. it doesn't constantly leak to where there's
> always a wet spot under the scoot, but i have seen a spot now and
then
> below the scoot and noticed the wetness on the inside bottom so i
> guess i should change out the filter.. is there any specific one i
need
> or can i just replace it with one that i'd get from kragen auto?
>
> should i replace the spring clamp with one that tighten's?
>
> -
> -- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, "Sparky Alex"
> <viking_warrior_1@> wrote:
> >
> > I started uploading all the files I have on my laptop, and now I
gotta
> > go get on my PC and upload all the stuff I have there too, so we
will
> > have a strong database to work with. So far I have a couple of files
> > in the files section, and 2 links to some other articles, in the
links
> > section.
> > I sincerely hope we can get this forum off the ground, and have fun
> > doing it.
> >
> > Sparky
> >
>

Hi Don,
  Yeah, I agree, any filter will work. I use one that has a bronze
element in it, it strains out the bugs, and allows faster fuel
delivery. And an easy replacement for those wire hose "holders" (can't
call 'em clamps) is to use small wire ties. You can pull them tight
with a pair of needle nose pliers. When it comes time to replace the
filter, just snip off the ties with a small pair of diagonal pliers
(dikes), and use new ones for the new filter.





--- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, Stan Jessup
<ndnparts@...> wrote:
>
> Any filter will work, but just ask them to cross over a 3011 NAPA
filter and you'll be in good shape. By all means replace all of the
spring clamps on the fuel lines. I also suggest replacing all of the
lines for both fuel and vacuum so you don't have problems with kinking
and collapsing. Stan
>
> http://www.oregonvintage.com
> Scooter Parts and Service Tips
> MRP & PFS Authorized Dealer
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: donchan
>   To: Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:53 PM
>   Subject: [Chinese_scooter_help_forum] Re: Hey all
>
>
>
>   hey sparky
>   got a question for you.. i think i'm going to have to change out my
>   fuel filter cuz i noticed a wetness around the juncture of it and the
>   line from the gas tank.. it doesn't constantly leak to where there's
>   always a wet spot under the scoot, but i have seen a spot now and
then
>   below the scoot and noticed the wetness on the inside bottom so i
>   guess i should change out the filter.. is there any specific one i
need
>   or can i just replace it with one that i'd get from kragen auto?
>
>   should i replace the spring clamp with one that tighten's?
>
>   -
>   -- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, "Sparky Alex"
>   <viking_warrior_1@> wrote:
>   >
>   > I started uploading all the files I have on my laptop, and now I
gotta
>   > go get on my PC and upload all the stuff I have there too, so we
will
>   > have a strong database to work with. So far I have a couple of files
>   > in the files section, and 2 links to some other articles, in the
links
>   > section.
>   > I sincerely hope we can get this forum off the ground, and have fun
>   > doing it.
>   >
>   > Sparky
>   >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: donchan

To: Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:53 PM

Subject: [Chinese_scooter_help_forum] Re: Hey all

hey sparky
got a question for you.. i think i'm going to have to change out my
fuel filter cuz i noticed a wetness around the juncture of it and the
line from the gas tank.. it doesn't constantly leak to where there's
always a wet spot under the scoot, but i have seen a spot now and then
below the scoot and noticed the wetness on the inside bottom so i
guess i should change out the filter.. is there any specific one i need
or can i just replace it with one that i'd get from kragen auto?

should i replace the spring clamp with one that tighten's?

-
-- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, "Sparky Alex"
<viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:
>
> I started uploading all the files I have on my laptop, and now I gotta
> go get on my PC and upload all the stuff I have there too, so we will
> have a strong database to work with. So far I have a couple of files
> in the files section, and 2 links to some other articles, in the links
> section.
> I sincerely hope we can get this forum off the ground, and have fun
> doing it.
>
> Sparky
>

hey sparky
got a question for you.. i think i'm going to have to change out my
fuel filter cuz i noticed a wetness around the juncture of it and the
line from the gas tank..  it doesn't constantly leak to where there's
always a wet spot under the scoot, but i have seen a spot now and then
below the scoot and noticed the wetness on the inside bottom  so i
guess i should change out the filter.. is there any specific one i need
or can i just replace it with one that i'd get from kragen auto?

should i replace the spring clamp with one that tighten's?

-
-- In Chinese_scooter_help_forum@yahoogroups.com, "Sparky Alex"
<viking_warrior_1@...> wrote:
>
> I started uploading all the files I have on my laptop, and now I gotta
> go get on my PC and upload all the stuff I have there too, so we will
> have a strong database to work with. So far I have a couple of files
> in the files section, and 2 links to some other articles, in the links
> section.
> I sincerely hope we can get this forum off the ground, and have fun
> doing it.
>
> Sparky
>

I started uploading all the files I have on my laptop, and now I gotta
go get on my PC and upload all the stuff I have there too, so we will
have a strong database to work with. So far I have a couple of files
in the files section, and 2 links to some other articles, in the links
section.
I sincerely hope we can get this forum off the ground, and have fun
doing it.

Sparky

Welcome to the newly formed scooter help forum for Chinese scooter owners.
I hope your experiences here are positive, and I hope you will tell
everyone you know about this forum.
I will try my best to answer all the questions I can,and hope you will
too. I'll try my best to pass along the latest info on repairs,
diagrams, tips, etc., too.
Let's fill up the files with everything we can find on these scooters,
and feel free to add your photos as you wish.

Happy Scootin'
Sparky