Steve,(HeathCrom here)

Thanks for the invite.  Here is the repost of some info plus some
additional links.

Here is a link to martin.  They carry xterro upgrades and was told
by kpx, they handle all parts for Tong Jian motorsports.
www.mrp-speed.com

Here is a link to the latest and greatest that comes from china!
Theres a 300cc kart there that can go 55mph!  They are a chinese
front for many, many manufacturers.  Wanna pool our money and buy
some heheh?
www.hk-new-era.com

Here is a link which will eventually get you to every manufacturer
of karts in china and you can order factory direct!
www.alibaba.com

Here is the cheapest carter karts available!  The 2150xtv is 1924
and the 1150xtv is 1800
www.GoKarts4Less.com

Finally, go check out the upcoming kpx xterro 250cc, shaft driven
machine.  I agree it looks heavy but I'll tell you how it drives.
www.lotsabull.com  click on offroad link

Heath

If anyone has any questions, observations, or anything to add at
all, please, fire away.

Will the 250cc plug and play solution for 150cc carts become a
reality for certain?   Enquiring minds want to know.

:) :)

Okay...   kept finding new SUNLs on ebay.    That 18.8 torque
mentioned above is supposed to be 8.8 like in the other auctions.

Not only that, they only have 10hp!!   That is a weak machine!

Cheap, but not worth it in my mind


-Steve

Yeah, done that too.   My mom had a boyfriend that owned a few
Citabria's   We did quite a bit of aerobatics over the Newport Bridge
and Narragansett Bay here in Rhode Island.   At times we were upside
down more than right side up.

I love aerobatics in R/C as well.  Working on a crazy 3-d capable
plane called the Freestyle by Global Hobbies.  Has a high power Saito
4 cycle engine mounted in it as of a few days ago.  Finishing up the
servo work now.

The Helicopters are actually harder to control.   In aircraft you
only have to worry about left and right reversing... just like a car
does, actually.    But in helicopters several things can reverse on
the controls depending orientation.   It's nuts.

-Steve

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "bedosmotorsports"
<bedosmotorsports@y...> wrote:
>
> i would like to try to fly those, but, i get my left and right
> backwards with those, know i would crash it. always wanted a
> helpcopter, though.  actually, would rather fly for real. my brother
> is a intruments tech with stevens beechcraft and once along time
ago,
> he set me up on a flight on a WWII fighter plane. the pilot was this
> young kid, about 21, and CRAZY.  brother Really set me up.  i
thought
> i was gonna have to clean my shorts when we landed.  loops, barrel
> rolls, dive bombs, and swooping cattle, all doing over 300 mph. but
i
> was hooked then.  i would love to fly a f16 military jet.
> what plane are you doing now?
> --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...>
wrote:
> >
> > Cool.   I did some cars with friends including RC 10s, etc. years
> > ago.  My main addiction has been aircraft though.  I spend all
> > together too much time on it, actually.   Assembling one right
now,
> > actually.  :)
> >
> > --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "bedosmotorsports"
> > <bedosmotorsports@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > wow, ok, here we go. from buggies to r/c's  !!  :)  i too was
an r/c
> > > nut. i used to have 2 team associated cars and 2 different
traxxis.
> > i
> > > now have 3 1/10 scale bodies, but no more cars.  i have a lotus
> > elise,
> > > mini cooper(old style) and bmw m3. i like the painting and
> > detailing .
> > > good therapy for my hands.   tried the off road buggies, but
they
> > kept
> > > getting broke.  guess i just cant drive them very good. ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > -- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy"
<stevehopkins@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <cowwboyy13@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Where do you get one of these blades?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whoahh...   Martin, I just looked at your profile.  You are
into
> > R/C
> > > > planes???  That's my other love out there.
> > > >
> > > > Very cool.
> > > >
> > > > Check out my no-so-updated picture page here:
> > > >
> > > > http://members.cox.net/stevehopkins/planes.shtml
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There have been quite a few since then.   I really have to
get
> > the
> > > > pictures up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Back to the subject at hand.  These carts are a whole lot of
fun.
> > > >
> > > > How did you find us here?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Steve

i would like to try to fly those, but, i get my left and right
backwards with those, know i would crash it. always wanted a
helpcopter, though.  actually, would rather fly for real. my brother
is a intruments tech with stevens beechcraft and once along time ago,
he set me up on a flight on a WWII fighter plane. the pilot was this
young kid, about 21, and CRAZY.  brother Really set me up.  i thought
i was gonna have to clean my shorts when we landed.  loops, barrel
rolls, dive bombs, and swooping cattle, all doing over 300 mph. but i
was hooked then.  i would love to fly a f16 military jet.
what plane are you doing now?
--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...> wrote:
>
> Cool.   I did some cars with friends including RC 10s, etc. years
> ago.  My main addiction has been aircraft though.  I spend all
> together too much time on it, actually.   Assembling one right now,
> actually.  :)
>
> --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "bedosmotorsports"
> <bedosmotorsports@y...> wrote:
> >
> > wow, ok, here we go. from buggies to r/c's  !!  :)  i too was an r/c
> > nut. i used to have 2 team associated cars and 2 different traxxis.
> i
> > now have 3 1/10 scale bodies, but no more cars.  i have a lotus
> elise,
> > mini cooper(old style) and bmw m3. i like the painting and
> detailing .
> > good therapy for my hands.   tried the off road buggies, but they
> kept
> > getting broke.  guess i just cant drive them very good. ;)
> >
> >
> > -- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <cowwboyy13@y...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where do you get one of these blades?
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoahh...   Martin, I just looked at your profile.  You are into
> R/C
> > > planes???  That's my other love out there.
> > >
> > > Very cool.
> > >
> > > Check out my no-so-updated picture page here:
> > >
> > > http://members.cox.net/stevehopkins/planes.shtml
> > >
> > >
> > > There have been quite a few since then.   I really have to get
> the
> > > pictures up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Back to the subject at hand.  These carts are a whole lot of fun.
> > >
> > > How did you find us here?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Steve

Cool.   I did some cars with friends including RC 10s, etc. years
ago.  My main addiction has been aircraft though.  I spend all
together too much time on it, actually.   Assembling one right now,
actually.  :)

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "bedosmotorsports"
<bedosmotorsports@y...> wrote:
>
> wow, ok, here we go. from buggies to r/c's  !!  :)  i too was an r/c
> nut. i used to have 2 team associated cars and 2 different traxxis.
i
> now have 3 1/10 scale bodies, but no more cars.  i have a lotus
elise,
> mini cooper(old style) and bmw m3. i like the painting and
detailing .
> good therapy for my hands.   tried the off road buggies, but they
kept
> getting broke.  guess i just cant drive them very good. ;)
>
>
> -- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <cowwboyy13@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Where do you get one of these blades?
> >
> >
> > Whoahh...   Martin, I just looked at your profile.  You are into
R/C
> > planes???  That's my other love out there.
> >
> > Very cool.
> >
> > Check out my no-so-updated picture page here:
> >
> > http://members.cox.net/stevehopkins/planes.shtml
> >
> >
> > There have been quite a few since then.   I really have to get
the
> > pictures up.
> >
> >
> > Back to the subject at hand.  These carts are a whole lot of fun.
> >
> > How did you find us here?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Steve

Just found some cool up close digital engine/exhaust shots of a Blade
in my E-Mail.

I'm posting in a folder named "Blade Detail Shots"

For those that were wondering, the engine code looks different.

Exhaust angle looks similar at this point, but hard to tell from the
way the shot was taken... looks like it was from underneath instead
of from the side.

The nice walbro carburetor can also been seen.


-Steve

wow, ok, here we go. from buggies to r/c's  !!  :)  i too was an r/c
nut. i used to have 2 team associated cars and 2 different traxxis. i
now have 3 1/10 scale bodies, but no more cars.  i have a lotus elise,
mini cooper(old style) and bmw m3. i like the painting and detailing .
good therapy for my hands.   tried the off road buggies, but they kept
getting broke.  guess i just cant drive them very good. ;)


-- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...> wrote:
>
> --- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <cowwboyy13@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Where do you get one of these blades?
>
>
> Whoahh...   Martin, I just looked at your profile.  You are into R/C
> planes???  That's my other love out there.
>
> Very cool.
>
> Check out my no-so-updated picture page here:
>
> http://members.cox.net/stevehopkins/planes.shtml
>
>
> There have been quite a few since then.   I really have to get the
> pictures up.
>
>
> Back to the subject at hand.  These carts are a whole lot of fun.
>
> How did you find us here?
>
>
>
>
> -Steve

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <cowwboyy13@y...> wrote:
>
> Where do you get one of these blades?


Whoahh...   Martin, I just looked at your profile.  You are into R/C
planes???  That's my other love out there.

Very cool.

Check out my no-so-updated picture page here:

http://members.cox.net/stevehopkins/planes.shtml


There have been quite a few since then.   I really have to get the
pictures up.


Back to the subject at hand.  These carts are a whole lot of fun.

How did you find us here?




-Steve

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <cowwboyy13@y...> wrote:
>
> Where do you get one of these blades?

There are dealers out there.   Bedo here can help you from what I
have heard

-Steve

Also, some of the data looks incorrect on the listing.   The
suggested retail there is rediculously high.

Could that Torque be right??

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...>
wrote:
>
> Selling buggys that look like the Awesome Buggys 2 Seater.. under
> the Sunl brand name.  I've seen these on the Sunl site before.
>
> Cheap... asking $1799 delivered as a buy it now
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
>
ViewItem&category=47352&item=7126918158&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphot
> ohosting
>
>
> I still don't like those looks of this cart though.
>
> It just has an odd look to it.
>
> Kell pointed out that the bracing in the floor looks weaker than
> Twister/Blade/KPX

Where do you get one of these blades?

Selling buggys that look like the Awesome Buggys 2 Seater.. under
the Sunl brand name.  I've seen these on the Sunl site before.

Cheap... asking $1799 delivered as a buy it now


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=47352&item=7126918158&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphot
ohosting


I still don't like those looks of this cart though.

It just has an odd look to it.

Kell pointed out that the bracing in the floor looks weaker than
Twister/Blade/KPX

Seen some interest on Peirspeed carts on other groups.

I think they are probably good carts.   The independent rear
suspension is interesting but it looks like it would be harder to do
cool powerslides with, etc?

I like the idea of the solid rear axel like th Blades, Twisters, etc
just because of the cart like feel that it gives.   But to each
their own I guess.

Also, it seems like a single axel/chain system would mean less
maintenance later on down the road as things wear out on ya.

If we can get Kell in here, maybe he can answer that a little more
for us as he saw them in action himself.

I've been on a Blade kick lately because I happen to really like
they way they look, and they seem to offer tons of options for the
money.   The removable fabric roof and padding on the roll cage is a
real plus.   The speedometer is very cool too!!  It's like getting a
Dazon Raider Max at a fraction of the price and with all the options
that aren't included in Dazon's high prices!

Oh yeah, and the Blade is going to be knocking on my door in a few
weeks too.  :)

I'll be able to add a lot more info on the Blade at that point.

-Steve

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...>
wrote:
>
>
> steve,
> when you get, let us know how it works out. are you gonna put it on
> your blade or one of your other buggies? we need to find a good
pipe
> for these also. stu told me he was thinking about having pipes made
> special for the blades. hope so.
> bedo

We need Joseph V to post his darn Pics!!!! hehe.

I plan to put it on the KPX Xterro first, since I should have the
CDI soon and the Blade is still weeks out since it's sitting on a
boat.  :)   We'll see what happens there and that will decide  If I
throw it in the garbage or put it on everything I have, including
the Blade.   :)

Yeah, more pipe options would be awesome.   It's very limited right
now. The more people that get involved, and the more of these buggys
that get out there, the better for everyone for sure.

Since I have the Toy Junkies parts I'll be able to try them out on
the Blade eventually too.

I emailed Stuart about the group... he is welcome to post here, of
course, if he wants.

It doesn't appear that Yahoo let's you search out this group yet
very well... which is a bummer.   I have to work on that.

I created a new Google group as well... hopefully to point people
this way eventually since that one should be more searchable.

I'm sure there are tons of owners out there that don't know about
these groups.   It would be great to reach them somehow.



-Steve

steve,
when you get, let us know how it works out. are you gonna put it on
your blade or one of your other buggies? we need to find a good pipe
for these also. stu told me he was thinking about having pipes made
special for the blades. hope so.
bedo

Thank's for the warm welcome.

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "hopsterguy" <stevehopkins@c...>
wrote:
>
> Your knowledge and trial and error attempts at performance
upgrades
> for these carts are a great asset to us!!

Hopefully I can put my curiosity to rest soon about this upgrade
path...

The unit I bought was the same one for the crf50, crf80, crf150,
crf200, etc.

It came to about $58 delivered or so.

Your knowledge and trial and error attempts at performance upgrades
for these carts are a great asset to us!!

There was a post on the Hammerhead upgrade yahoo group about a CDI
unit for small honda engines that supposidly increased performance
beyond that of a Carter XTV.   If this is the case, I have to find
more out about this CDI.   It would be low cost upgrade... and
probalby worth taking a chance on I suppose.  My XTV makes my Xterro
look pretty slow at this point

--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "daddycop1" <jdstilts@t...> wrote:
>
> hoopsterguy
>
> Thanks for including me!
> D.
> TN

No problem dude.  The more sites we have like this the better off we
all are.

And thanks for coming... glad you have you here!


-Steve

Oh... okay... I was thinking I had the address wrong or something.
I was looking and looking there and just couldn't find it.   That
explains it.

Yeah, a dedicated site will probably be needed to draw attention.


As far as aftermarket parts... I'm still waiting to  have a better
idea of how the blades are coming in out of the crate.   Hopefully
tonight we'll have some good close of different views of the
exhaust.

On my KPX Xterro I have the exhaust and intake provided by
ToyJunkies.  Not sure if it's the best or not... Kells parts he got
in for his Twister Hammerhead look really nice.   Especially his
exhaust which is probably quieter.


I hope to get some video and sound samples of the the carts so people
get get some idea of the sound produced with different aftermarket
parts.   If Kell has a video camera we should see if we can get some
engine running samples from his unit.


-Steve




--- In ChineseORB@yahoogroups.com, "bedosmotorsports"
<bedosmotorsports@y...> wrote:
>
> thanks steve
>
> right now, it's at www.bedosgeneralstore.com
> hopefully in the very near future, i will have a site solely for
> bedos motorsports.  i plan on having many after market accessories,
> however i will need you guys input on the best parts there is.  i
saw
> a thread last night from a "preferred vendor" and i made me mad.
the
> 'vendor' stated that all other 'so called dealers' didnt know what
> they were doing and couldnt be trusted.  so, i plan to show them,
that
> we can be very trust worthy and knowledgeable of these chinese
buggies.
>
> the link form the store site, should be up sometime today. thought
i
> had it published last night, but it didnt go.
>
> again, thanks for inviting me.
>
> ben

hoopsterguy

Thanks for including me!
D.
TN

thanks steve

right now, it's at www.bedosgeneralstore.com
hopefully in the very near future, i will have a site solely for
bedos motorsports.  i plan on having many after market accessories,
however i will need you guys input on the best parts there is.  i saw
a thread last night from a "preferred vendor" and i made me mad.  the
'vendor' stated that all other 'so called dealers' didnt know what
they were doing and couldnt be trusted.  so, i plan to show them, that
we can be very trust worthy and knowledgeable of these chinese buggies.

the link form the store site, should be up sometime today. thought i
had it published last night, but it didnt go.

again, thanks for inviting me.

ben

I totally forgot.   Bedo, send me your link again that you are
working on.   After all that hub-bub, I totally forgot.   I didn't
see the button at the general store last night.

-Steve

Absolutely.  At the very least, we have 50mb more space for
pics/video  :)

Ahh, shoot.  I have to make some video  now.  :P

hoopsterguy,

this is a great idea here !!  :)  thank you for inviting me in to the
wonderful and exciting forum.  i looking to reading and exchanging
valuable information about these terrific little toys that we have.

bedo
bedosmotorsports@...

Welcome to a new gathering spot for the wonderful world of Chinese
Off Road Buggys. I forsee this becoming an easy going place for
allowing open discussion on anything and everything regarding these
wonderful machines!


Please, let the discussions begin!