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Re: [Chevy-Volt] Missed the mark

Very true.  I remember seeing an old instructional videos on fast starts and hard stops, the video or film was from the 50's and yet, people are still being told about this.

How about this idea, put a summary of number of hard stops/start and display it as MPG lost as compared to possible MPG with proper driving to serve as a reminder.  This would be displayed on a screen after they turned the car off or while they are driving.



--- On Thu, 7/17/08, theoldcars@... <theoldcars@...> wrote:
From: theoldcars@... <theoldcars@...>
Subject: Re: [Chevy-Volt] Missed the mark
To: Chevy-Volt@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 11:41 PM

Here is the problem
 
People feel if they can afford to pay for it they have a right to burn up energy as fast as they would like. They have no idea how much energy they are wasting with fast starts and fast stops. They also do not under stand the power required to climb hills. All they know is they can drive any way they want and the only worry they have is filling up the tank.
 
An EV driver is very aware of the above and knows what I am getting at.
 
You take an ICE driver and put them in an EV and they will murder the pack. A new OEM EV that is either leased or has a warranty is not a concern for the driver. They will drive it like an ICE and expect it to go as far regardless of the hills or the speed they travel.
 
Any manufacturer that is going to sell an EV better have some really good batteries and they better be very well protected.
 
Your right some people hate change and they will drive just like an ICE. Given a chance almost all ICE drivers will be murders because they will not change their driving habits.
 
Don
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 11:05:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, imtrekd@yahoo. com writes:

I don't disagree with the batteries, but my point is to forget the batteries for now and bring the car to market faster at a much cheaper price, get people comfortable with the new fangled technology and by then, the batteries can be introduced as an improvement to what people would consider familiar and comfortable technology.

Some people hate change.


--- On Tue, 6/24/08, theoldcars@aol. com <theoldcars@aol. com> wrote:
From: theoldcars@aol. com <theoldcars@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [Chevy-Volt] Missed the mark
To: Chevy-Volt@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 11:53 PM

I have to disagree the concept is good. The batteries are even better.
 
The new A123 batteries are outstanding. They are the real deal. I know of several already putting these to in full size pure EVs
 
The RC guys have be punishing the small cells beyond what anyone thought was possible. 70 Amps from about a size C battery that does not burn up is huge.
 
Don Blazer





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When I first heard about the concept behind the Volt, my first reaction was "Finally, they figured out a simple thing!". What I mean by simple is that...
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I agree, what do you think of this? http://www.rmartinbikes.com/evd ... From: imtrekd <imtrekd@...> To: Chevy-Volt@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23,...
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I have to disagree the concept is good. The batteries are even better. The new A123 batteries are outstanding. They are the real deal. I know of several...
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Can you cite the examples of A123 vatteries used in "...FULL SIZED PURE EVS..."? (emphasis added) The issue is not whether they work, the issue is how long...
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Any that have done more than 50,000 miles on a pack? Doug ... From: theoldcars@... <theoldcars@...> Subject: Re: [Chevy-Volt] Missed the mark To:...
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I don't disagree with the batteries, but my point is to forget the batteries for now and bring the car to market faster at a much cheaper price, get people...
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Hello Doug Here is Gary's _http://www.evalbum.com/461_ (http://www.evalbum.com/461) _http://ev.whitecape.org/insight/A123/_ ...
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1, ... From: theoldcars@... <theoldcars@...> Subject: Re: [Chevy-Volt] Re: Missed the mark To: Chevy-Volt@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 11, 2008,...
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These are all very impressive and wonderful.   But the claim is that no EV has driven more than 50K miles on Lithium without significant battery degradation....
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Stephen may be getting close to 50K. His Solectria has been on the road for three years. He has several EVs so he may not be racking up the miles. Only his...
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My prediction: GM will lease the batteries, so you can't extract them, sell them and replace them with lead-acid; the batteries will be protected by the engine...
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The leasing of the battery pack is possible. Starting up the generator would be totally unnecessary. A pack of A123 batteries that has 40 miles range would be...
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Here is the problem People feel if they can afford to pay for it they have a right to burn up energy as fast as they would like. They have no idea how much...
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Very true.  I remember seeing an old instructional videos on fast starts and hard stops, the video or film was from the 50's and yet, people are still being...
S. B.
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