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"Analysis,Mr.Spock"....A/C NOT COOLING! (SOMEWHAT)   Message List  
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Re: [CateraOwners] Re: "Analysis,Mr.Spock"....A/C NOT COOLING! (SOMEWHAT)

Terry,
 
I'll run those checks for a major temp drop,but can tell you that I'm not 'seeing' nearly that much of a reduction,humidity notwithstanding.
 
So, what would preveent a fully charged,pressurized system from cooling efficiently?
 
John


From: trwong2000 <trwong2000@...>
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Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:18:50 AM
Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: "Analysis,Mr.Spock"....A/C NOT COOLING! (SOMEWHAT)

I keep an instant read pocket thermometer with a 1" diameter dial inserted into the center vent of every car that I have. The thermometers are about $3 at Harbor Freight Tools.

With the blower fan on high and the air coming from outside (not on recirculate) you should get about a 35° temperature drop. In other words, if the outside air temperature is 85° you should get 50° or lower out of the center vent. A really great air conditioner system can achieve a 50° temperature drop.

With an outside air temperature of 80° and the fan set on LOW SPEED on my 97 Catera I can get an outlet temperature of 27°. All of the above temperatures are assuming a relative humidity of 30% to 40%. If your humidity is higher, you won't get as much cooling.

Terry

--- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, jbeardjr@... wrote:
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> John W.
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> I plan to se my temp gun to check the maximum cool temp coming out of my a/c; I feel that the coolder the air, the quicker the cool,no matter the heat.But if it isn't 'cold', then the temp drop is less,and takes longer to cool.
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> Granted, I have no tint, but my '95 240 SX gets cold even w/o tint on the same days!
> In all, I feel the system should perform better, hence need ideas on possible problems,solutions.
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> Thanks!
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> John B.
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> i just did the a/c�recharge and mine don't seem cold but is cool on hot days�over 90 and i use the reciclate mode so no hot air can come in next is window tint� 15% should drop it even more! i�ran my a/c this morning and froze me out! but it�was 84 not 94?
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> From: "Pernesky, Dave" <dave.pernesky@ safholland. com>
> To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 7:08:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [CateraOwners] "Analysis,Mr. Spock"... .A/C NOT COOLING! (SOMEWHAT)
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> Have you made sure that the air duct vent (outside)is closed so the cabin air is recalculating?
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> From:CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:CateraOwner s@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:33 AM
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> Subject: [CateraOwners] "Analysis,Mr. Spock"....A/ C NOT COOLING! (SOMEWHAT)
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> Guys, need your collective thoughts....
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> Got my a/c system recharged after compressor replacement, but since then,it doesn't seem to cool as 'cold' as before.The amount of refrigerant, I/O pressures ,ect all are correct;changed the dryer/ accumulator, oriface tube....but still, with this hot,humid SE TX heat, I'm barly staying cool..
> After a long drive, 20 miles or so, it starts to seem like its breaking the temp down,but just enough to keep the windows up,know what I mean?
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> Thanks in advance for your input.
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> John
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Guys, need your collective thoughts.... Got my a/c system recharged after compressor replacement, but since then,it doesn't seem to cool as 'cold' as...
John
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Jul 7, 2009
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Have you made sure that the air duct vent (outside)is closed so the cabin air is recalculating? David From: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com...
Pernesky, Dave
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Jul 7, 2009
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That should have been recirculating. From: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pernesky, Dave Sent: Tuesday, July...
Pernesky, Dave
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Jul 7, 2009
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Dave, If you're refering to is the button on the a/c controls,that switches fron 'regular' a/c to 'maximum', re:recirculate, I use it bt results the same. How...
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Jul 8, 2009
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John, Unfortunately I have not personally tore into the venting system in the Catera. I was talking more in general terms. There is a vent/flaper (in all...
Pernesky, Dave
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Jul 9, 2009
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Thanks David, that's good info, logical places to look for problems. Anyone got diagrams of the vent/duct airflow setup? Thanks for your help, John ...
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Jul 9, 2009
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i just did the a/c recharge and mine don't seem cold but is cool on hot days over 90 and i use the reciclate mode so no hot air can come in next is window...
John Williams
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Jul 7, 2009
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I forget which years got the E-Glass/solar wind shield? However, its suppose to make a 10 degree difference. I know 2001 has the E-Glass/solar wind shield. ...
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John W. I plan to se my temp gun to check the maximum cool temp coming out of my a/c; I feel that the coolder the air, the quicker the cool,no matter the...
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Jul 8, 2009
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I keep an instant read pocket thermometer with a 1" diameter dial inserted into the center vent of every car that I have. The thermometers are about $3 at...
trwong2000
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Jul 9, 2009
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Terry, I'll run those checks for a major temp drop,but can tell you that I'm not 'seeing' nearly that much of a reduction,humidity notwithstanding. So, what...
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Jul 9, 2009
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Here are some things to check: 1. Use your hand to feel the temperature of the low pressure return line. That is the metal pipe with the muffler in it. It is...
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Jul 9, 2009
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'As usual, Mr. Spock, your analysis is excellent." Thanks, and will post my findings ASAP. John ________________________________ From: trwong2000...
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Jul 9, 2009
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I'm just an amateur mechanic but I have a little experience working on A/C systems on my own cars. Here are a few things to check: 1. Did you try...
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Jul 7, 2009
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Good ideas, Terry! BTW, how do you re-scync the  servos? I've had problems before ,when they would no send air to the proper outlet as selected on the a/c...
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Jul 8, 2009
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... With the key in the On position, simultaneously press the Auto and Off buttons on the climate control head for 5 seconds....
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Thanks, Mr. Gecko! John ________________________________ From: gord_gecko <gord_gecko@...> To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009...
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Jul 9, 2009
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I put in a 12 oz can, after 8 years of no problems. I'm in Texas too and this is certainly a brutal summer. The auto zone guy told me to put it in as liquid....
Frank Triana
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Jul 8, 2009
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Frank, I plan to check the coolant load in my system to see if the amount of gas vs. liquid is an issue, and that the system ids fully loaded. Where are you in...
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Jul 8, 2009
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John, I'm in Dallas, or at least 10 miles away. Good luck with the A/C, this seems to be the summer from hell. 102 on my way home today, just can't wait to see...
Frank Triana
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Frank, I'll take the heat any day; just no more hurricanes!All the evacs, refinery shut downs, lack of services and living like a primitive has gotten old! ...
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My high side had a little leak, and when I checked low side pressure it started leaking. So, I recently replaced both service port valves. The low side is a...
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Thanks Rob; will check the valves,system for leaks. John ________________________________ From: "robertconant@..." <robertconant@...> To:...
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