Yesterday - May 8th - was the 1 year anniversary of Bio-
Fuel_Wisconsin.
Alot has changed since the beginning. We have slowly gathered our
current members, and I have been trying to recruit some very
knowledgable people I have met in the alternate fuel world.
If you know anyone, tell them about us & take the quick questionaire.
This is only a screening process to keep out the spammers and
deadbeats. Tell them to write that your recommended them to Bio-Fuel.

I feel we have some quality members here, and want to grow as a strong
knowledge base.

Jeff

I am going to be revamping the welcome page of the group.
    If anyone has a picture that you think would be fitting post it in
the "photos" section, and let me know.
    Also, any other suggestions would be great.

Ideas:
have polls
have a meet at points in the year
get some pictures uploaded - I need to work on this - Greasecar install
put some links into the folder - Prairie Fire, Nbb, Great Lakes, etc.

Jeff

I made a visit to Great Lakes Biofuels (Tony Hartman) & the
Madison coop (Prairie Fire) on Sat. They are still selling B-100 out
of the back door of the Baldwin St. building do to set-up of their
building and the road construction is bad down there. Thanks for the
contact info Dennis -- I mentioned your name and Tony explained that
you had an interest in a coop in Milwaukee.
    I spent the day meeting with Tony and the other members, and
watched as the customers came in to fill their cars. I even ran a
47% blend on my way home to Appleton.
    I also got to meet with Tom Jalinsky of Jalin Technologies. He is
setting up 1 million gal. per year processing plants. I asked what
he is using the glycerine for -  they are making a "Biodiesel" type
fuel out of it - more like a bunker fuel to be burned in industry
boilers/furnaces.
    I am setting up a tour of the new processing plant in Eland (near
Antigo) - Mid-Wisconsin Biodiesel - Claire Smith is the owner. This
is one of Tom's setups and went online last week brewing. If anyone
is interested in joining me, let me know ASAP so I get it set up. I
was considering this Sat - May 13, but if there is enough interest,
I can see if we can get a date to fit most of us.
Jeff

Mike,

Do you have a contact in Madison? I am interested in visiting the
site you were at. Do you know how much or how big of a processor the
group has?
Let me know where you are at on your two tank system. I took
delivery of an '04 Jetta TDI a couple of weeks ago, but have not had
a chance to start installing the Greasecar kit. I was hoping to have
it ready by the first part of May. There is an alternate fuel
vehicle show in Joliet, IL on Sat. May 13th at the Route 66 Raceway.
More info at: www.midwestalternativefuelvehicleexpo.com
I thought of going, and wanted to drive down on WVO/SVO.
Thanks,
Jeff

--- In Bio-fuel_Wisconsin@yahoogroups.com, "team_gooddogs"
<gooddogs@...> wrote:
>
> We went to Madison this last weekend and met several members of
the
> Biodiesel group there.  They showed us there processor and we
discussed
> problems they had run into along the way.  As the group was
winding
> down someone mentioned other alternatives.  The talk then went to
> running on WVO oil in 1 and 2 tank systems.  The pros and  cons of
> each.  After it was all said and done 3 of us decided that we are
going
> to change gears and go to a 2 tank heated system to run WVO in. 
> Starting the vehicle on Dino Diesel in winter and Biodiesel in
summer
> and then once it is warmed up switching to WVO in the other tank. 
>
> My question is.  Are any of you doing this and if so what problems
have
> you run into along the way?   Also does anyone know of a place in
Wi.
> To pick up a system or have one installed?
>
> Thanks in advanced.
> Mike
>

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Dennis,

What are you paying per gallon for a B20 blend?  Do you have B100
available in your area?
Another thought, Have you ever thought of using a two tank system
similar to the Vege oil kits out there to run B100 in the winter?

Jeff
By the way, I have no info on this group in the Green Bay area. I
haven't even heard of the other than from you.

Dennis,

What are you paying per gallon for a B20 blend?  Do you have B100
available in your area?
Another thought, Have you ever thought of using a two tank system
similar to the Vege oil kits out there to run B100 in the winter?

Jeff
By the way, I have no info on this group in the Green Bay area. I
haven't even heard of the other than from you.

Mike,

Do you have a contact in Madison? I am interested in visiting the
site you were at. Do you know how much or how big of a processor the
group has?
Let me know where you are at on your two tank system. I took
delivery of an '04 Jetta TDI a couple of weeks ago, but have not had
a chance to start installing the Greasecar kit. I was hoping to have
it ready by the first part of May. There is an alternate fuel
vehicle show in Joliet, IL on Sat. May 13th at the Route 66 Raceway.
More info at: www.midwestalternativefuelvehicleexpo.com
I thought of going, and wanted to drive down on WVO/SVO.
Thanks,
Jeff

--- In Bio-fuel_Wisconsin@yahoogroups.com, "team_gooddogs"
<gooddogs@...> wrote:
>
> We went to Madison this last weekend and met several members of
the
> Biodiesel group there.  They showed us there processor and we
discussed
> problems they had run into along the way.  As the group was
winding
> down someone mentioned other alternatives.  The talk then went to
> running on WVO oil in 1 and 2 tank systems.  The pros and  cons of
> each.  After it was all said and done 3 of us decided that we are
going
> to change gears and go to a 2 tank heated system to run WVO in.
> Starting the vehicle on Dino Diesel in winter and Biodiesel in
summer
> and then once it is warmed up switching to WVO in the other tank.
>
> My question is.  Are any of you doing this and if so what problems
have
> you run into along the way?   Also does anyone know of a place in
Wi.
> To pick up a system or have one installed?
>
> Thanks in advanced.
> Mike
>

I just purchased a brand new Greasecar kit - www.greasecar.com for info. I don't have the car yet, but am starting to look for a Jetta. From what I have researched an read out of fact & question forums, this looks to be the most easy system to install for the DIY person. It is hose in hose, which means the secondary fuel line is run through a heated line containing the engine coolant. Greasecar has two nice options - a tig welded 13 gallon cyl. tank that goes in the spare tire well, and a rectangular 15 gallon tank - I am getting the 15 gal. It's nice to still be able to used the vehicles onboard tank for petro, or bio, and hold the option of a secondary tank. It also is one of the fastest flush systems, clearing out wvo before shutdown in under a minute. I sound like I work for them, but this is my research over the last 2 years. I am half tempted to set it up on my friends '05 chev duramax until I get my new car. I would go to greasecar's site and read some of the profiles of people running the kits.

I don't install these kits, but was contacting them to see if they accept dealer inquiries.

My question to anyone familiar with biodiesel, at what point do you need to worry about the seals and orings in the engine components, ie injector pump, fuel system? Anyone familiar with newer model VW TDI's?

 

Jeff

team_gooddogs <gooddogs@...> wrote:

We went to Madison this last weekend and met several members of the
Biodiesel group there.  They showed us there processor and we discussed
problems they had run into along the way.  As the group was winding
down someone mentioned other alternatives.  The talk then went to
running on WVO oil in 1 and 2 tank systems.  The pros and  cons of
each.  After it was all said and done 3 of us decided that we are going
to change gears and go to a 2 tank heated system to run WVO in. 
Starting the vehicle on Dino Diesel in winter and Biodiesel in summer
and then once it is warmed up switching to WVO in the other tank. 

My question is.  Are any of you doing this and if so what problems have
you run into along the way?   Also does anyone know of a place in Wi.
To pick up a system or have one installed?

Thanks in advanced.
Mike

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We went to Madison this last weekend and met several members of the
Biodiesel group there.  They showed us there processor and we discussed
problems they had run into along the way.  As the group was winding
down someone mentioned other alternatives.  The talk then went to
running on WVO oil in 1 and 2 tank systems.  The pros and  cons of
each.  After it was all said and done 3 of us decided that we are going
to change gears and go to a 2 tank heated system to run WVO in. 
Starting the vehicle on Dino Diesel in winter and Biodiesel in summer
and then once it is warmed up switching to WVO in the other tank. 

My question is.  Are any of you doing this and if so what problems have
you run into along the way?   Also does anyone know of a place in Wi.
To pick up a system or have one installed?

Thanks in advanced.
Mike

We went to Madison this last weekend and met several members of the
Biodiesel group there.  They showed us there processor and we discussed
problems they had run into along the way.  As the group was winding
down someone mentioned other alternatives.  The talk then went to
running on WVO oil in 1 and 2 tank systems.  The pros and  cons of
each.  After it was all said and done 3 of us decided that we are going
to change gears and go to a 2 tank heated system to run WVO in. 
Starting the vehicle on Dino Diesel in winter and Biodiesel in summer
and then once it is warmed up switching to WVO in the other tank. 

My question is.  Are any of you doing this and if so what problems have
you run into along the way?   Also does anyone know of a place in Wi.
To pick up a system or have one installed?

Thanks in advanced.
Mike

We went to Madison this last weekend and met several members of the
Biodiesel group there.  They showed us there processor and we discussed
problems they had run into along the way.  As the group was winding
down someone mentioned other alternatives.  The talk then went to
running on WVO oil in 1 and 2 tank systems.  The pros and  cons of
each.  After it was all said and done 3 of us decided that we are going
to change gears and go to a 2 tank heated system to run WVO in.
Starting the vehicle on Dino Diesel in winter and Biodiesel in summer
and then once it is warmed up switching to WVO in the other tank.

My question is.  Are any of you doing this and if so what problems have
you run into along the way?   Also does anyone know of a place in Wi.
To pick up a system or have one installed?

Thanks in advanced.
Mike

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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:49:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Dennis Zdroik
Subject: Re: Membership

I will continue to post any future meeting in Milwaukee for the Milwaukee Area Biofuel CoOp. Having problems to make connection with the Biodiesel processing plant in the Green Bay area. Do you have any leads??

qaengineermke

venomustill wrote:
If anyone no longer wishes to be a member, email me to be removed.
I am hoping we will get some activity in the near future. I know I am
waiting until spring to look for my next diesel vehicle. Anyone know
of an inexpensive used diesel vehicle for sale between Milwaukee and
Green Bay that is driveable?
Thanks
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   If anyone no longer wishes to be a member, email me to be removed.
I am hoping we will get some activity in the near future. I know I am
waiting until spring to look for my next diesel vehicle. Anyone know
of an inexpensive used diesel vehicle for sale between Milwaukee and
Green Bay that is driveable?
Thanks
Jeff

Just to let you know, an email came through from a recent member about
dating. He has been removed.
Thanks,
Jeff

I'd like chat with  you, come on! We will be not lonely tonight
http://www.geocities.com/asportmanforever/sportsdating.html

If anyone no longer wishes to be a member, email me to be removed.
I am hoping we will get some activity in the near future. I know I am
waiting until spring to look for my next diesel vehicle. Anyone know
of an inexpensive used diesel vehicle for sale between Milwaukee and
Green Bay that is driveable?
Thanks
Jeff

I know this will come off as negative but it isn't intended as such.

20 million gallons of WVO for a firm in a town the size of Green
Bay !!

When I initially saw the talk of the meeting in West Allis & the
State
being active in allowing for co-ops to be set-up I had thought there
was an opportunity for little guys in local communities to get
something started that would help the pioneers in this area while
allowing controls that prevented this from becoming another
opportunity
for money men to ruin yet another idea that helps the planet,
decreases
our need for foreign fuel & cheat the oil companies out of cheating
us
by being able to actually run vehicles at a cost of less than a buck
a
gallon.

My initial interest in this site vs. all the others was because it
was
in my backyard , I wanted to become involved in helping the 'little
guy' & I saw our winters as unique. I was, however, troubled by all
the
hoopla presented by the people selling kits to do this and that
telling
you how easy it would be to go down to your local restaurant & pick
up
all the used WVO they'd need to run their own set-ups for home heat,
machinery & vehicles. Until 9 years ago I lived in Milwaukee before
moving out into the middle of nowhere. I owned a restaurant for 2
years
while there. Rendering companies PAID all restaurants I know of for
their WVO  & though I never asked I always assumed it had a recycle
value that was likely in the same industry. I admitted my ignorance
to
many of these subjects in my 'intro' post as well as desires for
future. I'm imagining that operational costs to renew WVO into bio
fuels are much less than those of rendering WVO back into a product
that can be used in the food industry & it just makes sense to me
that
it's likely the parties in Green Bay with the power & money necessary
to gather the amount of WVO necessary to produce 20 million gallons
of
WVO for bio diesel are a consortium of sorts composed of people
already
in the rendering business that will gain a major foothold in this
business immediately. They will no doubt be followed by others in the
same industry immediately & you can kiss 75 cent per gallon
alternative
fuel goodbye!!

Perhaps this group is composed of individuals such as us that banded
together but I find such hard to believe. Our little restaurant
yielded
about 75 gallons weekly of WVO. It would take a highly organized
effort
to collect an amount of that magnitude.

Had the little guy ( the opportunity still exists for those who
care!!)
gotten involved from the onset & controlled local areas via co-op &
contributed whatever necessary both financially as well as
encouraging
friends & neighbors to get involved we could keep the "Corporations"
out of this!!! If you did so you would also have the power to
encourage
your local farmers to get involved in both research & production
necessary to produce both corn & soy products suitable as bio fuels!
Show our farmers a way to make a profit & they'll gladly give up a
government subsidy check.

I did not realize what a small group we had here when I joined but so
be it. This entire country started with a group of a few men. Their
is
an opportunity here to make individuals lives economically less
burdened, many opportunities to gain financially as well as
opportunities to change the direction of the World & at the same time
put the rich man back in his place - working for a living like the
rest
of us have to!!

I'm still ready to help wherever I can. Anybody else that knows more
than me have a plan?

Jeff - jlrlawn - ja-turf@...



--- In Bio-fuel_Wisconsin@yahoogroups.com, "qaengineermke"
<qaengineermke@y...> wrote:
>
> In the Milwaukee J/S about two weeks ago.  A firm in the Green Bay
> area is building onto their existing business to produce 20 million
> gallons of Biodiesel fuel. Using W.V.O. I have submitted an e-mail
to
> the firm to get additional information from them.  I will find out
if
> it will be sold to the public or to a private CoOp.  I will let
this
> group know about the progressive.
>
> Regards,
>
> qaengineermke
>

Jeff -

     I did a search a couple days ago & found the group. Web address is
Greatlakesbiofuels.net/bdinfo.htm . It's an excellent site with
excellent links . The link to www.biodiesel.org/ is outstanding.

    I spent near an hour on the phone with Jamie Derr who is also a CEO
with the Organization. An absolutely excellent person to speak to.

    As you , my interests are in smaller co-ops. Jamie was familiar with
the Green Bay group Dennis spoke of & as I  suspected they are a very
large yellow fat rendering group out of the Madison area with a sister
Company in Green Bay. I expressed my concerns to Him that I was fearful
of big business involvement but this industry has EPA mandates which
pretty much means that will be unavoidable. I further expressed to him
my fears that his group may not want to work with a guy like me because
my vision was to see several small scale co-ops sustaining small areas
or even small groups to HELP the little guy. He stated that they would
work with me to set up satellites to their organization as well as
helping me set up my OWN co-ops. Their desire is to make biodiesel more
of a reality & their mission statement pretty much says all he said to
me.

    I have logs burning in alot of fires because of my involvement in
Organics & synthetic oils & additives so time is a commodity for me but
I still have family in Milwaukee & get down there from time to time.
Jamie is going to get back to me with some info so if you get in touch
with them & decide to start your own co-op we might be able to help
each other. I plan on staying involved with this group from Madison .
These guys appear to have their heart in the right place & know what
they are doing.

    Keep me posted. Good luck.

    JLR

P.S. Get involved now or the guys with the 'Fat People' trucks running
around in Milwaukee are gonna swallow up all your possible sources for
WVO.



--- In Bio-fuel_Wisconsin@yahoogroups.com, "venomustill"
<venomustill@y...> wrote:
>
> qaengineermke,
>
> Do you have any other information on the co-op in the Madison area? -
> Are all the positions filled on the board? I would be more interested
> in what they are looking to accomplish. I had it in my mind, that it
> would be a good idea to bring a co-op to Wisconsin, but of a smaller
> scale.
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>

qaengineermke,

Do you have any other information on the co-op in the Madison area? -
Are all the positions filled on the board? I would be more interested
in what they are looking to accomplish. I had it in my mind, that it
would be a good idea to bring a co-op to Wisconsin, but of a smaller
scale.
Thanks,
Jeff

qaengineermke,

Do you have any other information on the co-op in the Madison area? -
Are all the positions filled on the board? I would be more interested
in what they are looking to accomplish. I had it in my mind, that it
would be a good idea to bring a co-op to Wisconsin, but of a smaller
scale.
Thanks,
Jeff

I know this will come off as negative but it isn't intended as such.

20 million gallons of WVO for a firm in a town the size of Green
Bay !!

When I initially saw the talk of the meeting in West Allis & the
State
being active in allowing for co-ops to be set-up I had thought there
was an opportunity for little guys in local communities to get
something started that would help the pioneers in this area while
allowing controls that prevented this from becoming another
opportunity
for money men to ruin yet another idea that helps the planet,
decreases
our need for foreign fuel & cheat the oil companies out of cheating
us
by being able to actually run vehicles at a cost of less than a buck
a
gallon.

My initial interest in this site vs. all the others was because it
was
in my backyard , I wanted to become involved in helping the 'little
guy' & I saw our winters as unique. I was, however, troubled by all
the
hoopla presented by the people selling kits to do this and that
telling
you how easy it would be to go down to your local restaurant & pick
up
all the used WVO they'd need to run their own set-ups for home heat,
machinery & vehicles. Until 9 years ago I lived in Milwaukee before
moving out into the middle of nowhere. I owned a restaurant for 2
years
while there. Rendering companies PAID all restaurants I know of for
their WVO  & though I never asked I always assumed it had a recycle
value that was likely in the same industry. I admitted my ignorance
to
many of these subjects in my 'intro' post as well as desires for
future. I'm imagining that operational costs to renew WVO into bio
fuels are much less than those of rendering WVO back into a product
that can be used in the food industry & it just makes sense to me
that
it's likely the parties in Green Bay with the power & money necessary
to gather the amount of WVO necessary to produce 20 million gallons
of
WVO for bio diesel are a consortium of sorts composed of people
already
in the rendering business that will gain a major foothold in this
business immediately. They will no doubt be followed by others in the
same industry immediately & you can kiss 75 cent per gallon
alternative
fuel goodbye!!

Perhaps this group is composed of individuals such as us that banded
together but I find such hard to believe. Our little restaurant
yielded
about 75 gallons weekly of WVO. It would take a highly organized
effort
to collect an amount of that magnitude.

Had the little guy ( the opportunity still exists for those who
care!!)
gotten involved from the onset & controlled local areas via co-op &
contributed whatever necessary both financially as well as
encouraging
friends & neighbors to get involved we could keep the "Corporations"
out of this!!! If you did so you would also have the power to
encourage
your local farmers to get involved in both research & production
necessary to produce both corn & soy products suitable as bio fuels!
Show our farmers a way to make a profit & they'll gladly give up a
government subsidy check.

I did not realize what a small group we had here when I joined but so
be it. This entire country started with a group of a few men. Their
is
an opportunity here to make individuals lives economically less
burdened, many opportunities to gain financially as well as
opportunities to change the direction of the World & at the same time
put the rich man back in his place - working for a living like the
rest
of us have to!!

I'm still ready to help wherever I can. Anybody else that knows more
than me have a plan?

Jeff - jlrlawn - ja-turf@...



--- In Bio-fuel_Wisconsin@yahoogroups.com, "qaengineermke"
<qaengineermke@y...> wrote:
>
> In the Milwaukee J/S about two weeks ago.  A firm in the Green Bay
> area is building onto their existing business to produce 20 million
> gallons of Biodiesel fuel. Using W.V.O. I have submitted an e-mail
to
> the firm to get additional information from them.  I will find out
if
> it will be sold to the public or to a private CoOp.  I will let
this
> group know about the progressive.
>
> Regards,
>
> qaengineermke
>

In the Milwaukee J/S about two weeks ago.  A firm in the Green Bay
area is building onto their existing business to produce 20 million
gallons of Biodiesel fuel. Using W.V.O. I have submitted an e-mail to
the firm to get additional information from them.  I will find out if
it will be sold to the public or to a private CoOp.  I will let this
group know about the progressive.

Regards,

qaengineermke

Dennis -

Add me to your group of interested parties. Sorry I hadn't heard of
this group til now.

JLRLawn - Jeff
ja-turf@...

--- In Bio-fuel_Wisconsin@yahoogroups.com, jeff w <venomustill@y...>
wrote:
>
> Let me know any development, I am also interested more in your coop.
>   Thanks,
>   Jeff
>
> qaengineermke <qaengineermke@y...> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay.
>
> Some feedback from the first meeting of this future Coop that was
> held on November 15, 2005. The turn out was poor due to poor
> weather. Some of the RSVP e-mails parties did not show.
>
> The Madison base Great Lakes Biofuel Group speakers did a very good
> job with their presentation regarding the State of Wisconsin is
> doing with Soybean Diesel Fuel usage and allowing Membership Coop
to
> form in this state.
>
> They left a copy of the forms, from the State of Wisconsin to start
> a Biofuel Coop. We need a total of eight persons to be the main
> board to start. we need to develop by-laws and regulations. Small
> fees will be required for new members for purchasing necessary
> equipment and process the legal paperwork for the Coop to start.
> Total start up will be less that $150.00
>
> A second meeting will be schedule at a later date. Most likely
after
> the first of the year. I will past on any information who is
> interested.
>
> I have a total of four persons who are committed for the start of
> this Coop.
>
> One gentlemen who owns a lubricant outlet in Slinger, WI was very
> helpful in pasting out information of new laws and regulations that
> the State of Wisconsin is working on now for Biofuels.
>
> Regards,
>
> qaengineermke@y...
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Hi

Can't believe this - I am now a member of 3 groups with a moderator
named Jeff & my name is Jeff as well.

I know near nothing about SVO, WVO or BioDiesel. What I do know about
is fertilizer because I do lawn & landscape . We started a switch to
organics about 5 years ago & each year I become more involved. I now
make my own fertilizers , AACT (actively aerated compost tea), apply
mycorrhizal fungai , study bio-dynamics, sustainable agriculture,
indigenous innoculation & the entire spectrum of organic approaches
to every area they have application. If you want healthy lawn or good
crop yield , see me.

BioDiesel is incredibly closely related.

Out of all the groups listed I chose this one because I reside in Wi.
& plan next equipment aqquisitions to be diesel in nature & would
like to be involved with people that face our wonderful unique
winters & as I'm becoming involved of late with people in the
agricultural community & I see tremendous potential for SVO from
soybean & corn products & I'd like to help in that capacity if
possible as well.

Consider me the plebe of the group. Everyone here likely knows 100
times more than I do so your provided info is my education.

Hoping this group is fairly active. Nice to be here.

JLRLAWN - Jeff

Sorry for the delay.

Some feedback from the first meeting of this future Coop that was
held on November 15, 2005. The turn out was poor due to poor
weather. Some of the RSVP e-mails parties did not show.

The Madison base Great Lakes Biofuel Group speakers did a very good
job with their presentation regarding the State of Wisconsin is
doing with Soybean Diesel Fuel usage and allowing Membership Coop to
form in this state.

They left a copy of the forms, from the State of Wisconsin to start
a Biofuel Coop. We need a total of eight persons to be the main
board to start. we need to develop by-laws and regulations. Small
fees will be required for new members for purchasing necessary
equipment and process the legal paperwork for the Coop to start.
Total start up will be less that $150.00

A second meeting will be schedule at a later date. Most likely after
the first of the year. I will past on any information who is
interested.

I have a total of four persons who are committed for the start of
this Coop.

One gentlemen who owns a lubricant outlet in Slinger, WI was very
helpful in pasting out information of new laws and regulations that
the State of Wisconsin is working on now for Biofuels.

Regards,

qaengineermke@...

Sorry for the delay.

Some feedback from the first meeting of this future Coop that was
held on November 15, 2005. The turn out was poor due to poor
weather. Some of the RSVP e-mails parties did not show.

The Madison base Great Lakes Biofuel Group speakers did a very good
job with their presentation regarding the State of Wisconsin is
doing with Soybean Diesel Fuel usage and allowing Membership Coop to
form in this state.

They left a copy of the forms, from the State of Wisconsin to start
a Biofuel Coop. We need a total of eight persons to be the main
board to start. we need to develop by-laws and regulations. Small
fees will be required for new members for purchasing necessary
equipment and process the legal paperwork for the Coop to start.
Total start up will be less that $150.00

A second meeting will be schedule at a later date. Most likely after
the first of the year. I will past on any information who is
interested.

I have a total of four persons who are committed for the start of
this Coop.

One gentlemen who owns a lubricant outlet in Slinger, WI was very
helpful in pasting out information of new laws and regulations that
the State of Wisconsin is working on now for Biofuels.

Regards,

qaengineermke@...

To All:

I have a meeting schedule on November 15, 2005 at the West Allis
Public Library to see who is interested in starting a Biofuel Coop.
Time frame is 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 a.m.  The West Allis Public Library is
located at 75th & National Avenue.

Please contact me via e-mail if any one is interested.  The room will
hold a total of 90 persons.

R.S.V.P. is recommented.

Dennis Z.  - qaengineermke@...

Dennis,

I see you have a TDI. That is the vehicle I am interested in
purchasing. Supplies at dealers are slim right now, and ordering a new
one is up to 2 months out or better. Have you tried to run SVO or do
you have a heated filter either electric or by engine coolant to run
WVO?

Jeff

Hello I am a new member. I have a diesel pick up truck
and am looking to find cheaper fuel for it and
secondly I like the idea of using a renewable fuel in
it. I hope to gain knowledge of how I can make
Bio-diesel at home and hopefully contribute some
knowledge for others as I gain it.

Carl