Can we get any ideas of functionality. Will it be a
full (vag-com) product right away or will it be
limited to a few modules and later expand. Cant wait
to get my hands on one.

Thanks
Martin
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--- rich herzog <rich@...> wrote:
> chris0583,
> Monday, May 10, 2004, 8:14:43 PM, you wrote:
>
> screen shots we don't have, still putting some
> definition into the
> user interface.  the real work goes on behind the
> screens, and that
> work proceeds apace.  Uwe won't let me quote any
> timeframes, but we
> are geting close to something we can show people ...
>
> i'd expect the production version to look quite
> different from
> anything we beta -- but the functionality is the
> important thing ...
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Regards,
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chris0583,
Monday, May 10, 2004, 8:14:43 PM, you wrote:

screen shots we don't have, still putting some definition into the
user interface.  the real work goes on behind the screens, and that
work proceeds apace.  Uwe won't let me quote any timeframes, but we
are geting close to something we can show people ...

i'd expect the production version to look quite different from
anything we beta -- but the functionality is the important thing ...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Regards,
  rich -+- mailto:rich@...

2004 is here.

BiM-COM is not.

Seen a "teaser" on the Mini boards, many months ago.

How about something here too?

I can tell you that the way BMW provides scantool data is NOTHING like the way
VW/Audi provide scantool data.....

I doubt that Bently can offer as much information about BMW as they do VW/Audi,
at this time....


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: importcarguy2002
   To: BiM-COM@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:01 AM
   Subject: [BiM-COM] BMW Bentley CDs?


   Will Ross Tech offer Bentley CDs for the BMW line too?  When might
   they be available?

   Do they have the type of scan tool information we are used to with the
   Audi and VW lines?

   Does BMW use measuring block type of data?  I have only used a S-O
   MT2500 with BMW.  Couldn't tell if the live data was arranged like the
   factory tool or just in a generic format.

   Regards,

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Will Ross Tech offer Bentley CDs for the BMW line too?  When might
they be available?

Do they have the type of scan tool information we are used to with the
Audi and VW lines?

Does BMW use measuring block type of data?  I have only used a S-O
MT2500 with BMW.  Couldn't tell if the live data was arranged like the
factory tool or just in a generic format.

Regards,

Jay

Any status update on where BiM-COM is on the development path?  Are
you near beta testing yet or still months away from release?

Looking forward to some news.  :-)

Jason

--- In BiM-COM@yahoogroups.com, "l-kht" <luay_b@y...> wrote:
>

Here is a site that is offering the start that your looking for but
it seems a little pricy for "a start".

http://www.peakeresearch.com/emx.htm

No panic... I just desperately need to reset "some codes" (no, not
the ODB-2 ones) before I take my car to service next time..

I shrunk for about 1 meter from all the load.
Now the waiting is getting very painful, hope the reward will be great.

-------Original Message-------

From: BiM-COM@yahoogroups.com
Date: zondag 27 juli 2003 19:16:23
To: BiM-COM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BiM-COM] The waiting is a pain :)

Cant wait myself. Hopefully soon we will get some news
on whatthe progress is so far.

-Martin
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> How about an alpha test version for the enthusiasts?
> :)
>
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Cant wait myself. Hopefully soon we will get some news
on whatthe progress is so far.

-Martin
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How about an alpha test version for the enthusiasts? :)

Any news yet? It's been 8 months since this group was started, how
close are you to a beta release? My M3 has 52k on it now, I'm
thinking I'll need bim-com sometime soon.

Course, I hope not!

Keith

Dear Ross

    Please please do your best to speed up things i'll be happy even
if it's full of bugs at least you fix things as soon as we report
them . Unlike CARSOFT the guy from the tech support just wants to
hangup the phone from the first word.

Thank you

Uwe,  is there a date for the first Alpha BIM-COM... To the nearest month or
two?

Tim Locke
Ex AUDI/VAG-COM owner  waiting for a BIM-COM for his BMW

derekr666 wrote:
>
> Uwe
>
> Is the forthcoming BiM-COM package going to be compatible with
> USB-only equipped laptops? As you know, most current laptops do
> not include a 9-pin RS-232 serial port, so will BiM-COM be able
> to utilise an OBDII-to-USB type cable? Like the TWIN-USB?

Yes, a USB cable will be available.   However, the TWIN-USB won't be it.
BiM-COM will be sold with intelligent/dongle interfaces only.

-Uwe-

We have not yet determined production hardware packaging for BiM-COM.

Regards,
Andy

derekr666 wrote:
>
> Uwe
>
> Is the forthcoming BiM-COM package going to be compatible with
> USB-only equipped laptops? As you know, most current laptops do not
> include a 9-pin RS-232 serial port, so will BiM-COM be able to utilise
>
> an OBDII-to-USB type cable? Like the TWIN-USB?

Uwe

Is the forthcoming BiM-COM package going to be compatible with
USB-only equipped laptops? As you know, most current laptops do not
include a 9-pin RS-232 serial port, so will BiM-COM be able to utilise
an OBDII-to-USB type cable? Like the TWIN-USB?

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Hello all!
When is this super piece of software comming out? I have a BMW
without OBD2 so i'm desperately waiting for this :)

Greetings, Dutch

Man you should of done this long time a go

I bought an early Vag-COM in summer 2000 for my A4  and now,  just in time
as the A4 goes in a couple of months for a 330xi  I'll be after a fresh new
BMW-COM and cable as soon as available.

For me, fault codes and simple things that an owner would want will be
perfect.

Great.

Tim Locke

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Topics in this digest:

       1. Getting Started
            From: "eddierocket_2000" <rocket@...>
       2. Fw: Rover?
            From: Sébastien Delgrande <sdelgran@...>
       3. Interfaces
            From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@...>
       4. Hi
            From: Nacho <nachitoja@...>
       5. Goals
            From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@...>
       6. Release
            From: "swroc" <swroc@...>


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Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:22:16 -0000
    From: "eddierocket_2000" <rocket@...>
Subject: Getting Started

Hi All,
This post is really directed at Uwe.

The original release:
What is planned to be covered?
Currently I use AutoDiagnos MTP on these and it's quite good.
However, it doesn't cover the Light Control Module or any Programming
of PCM's or EWS. Also, some later systems are not covered (usually
introduced 2000>)

CarSoft claim to cover:
DME/DDE
ABS/ASC/DSC
AirBag/SRS
AirCon*
BC/MID* (On Board Computer/Multi Info Display)
Instrument Cluster*
DWA (Alarm)*
LKM/CCM* (Light Control Module)
ZKE/ZVM (Body Systems)
EGS (AutoBox)
EWS (Immobiliser)
Park Distance Control*
Service Reset (<2000)

Items marked * are currently not covered by AutoDiagnos ProLine.
Actuator Tests and EWS-DME/DDE Syncronisation are not covered either
by AD.

Is it going to be the same type of standard as Vag-Com (i.e.
practically as good as the dealer tool)?

Dealing with the leads - will you be supplying a 20 pin lead? Or will
it be possible to get it to work with, say, the AD lead I have? Vag- Com
will work with the AD lead I have for VAG (in addition to the one
supplied by Ross-Tech). A 16pin socket was used in Europe from
approx. mid 2000>

Hoping to get the ball rolling...
Eddie Ronayne.




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Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:40:10 +0100
    From: Sébastien Delgrande <sdelgran@...>
Subject: Fw: Rover?

First of all: Thank you Uwe (and the rest of the Ross-tech team) for
considering BMW as your next challenge! This is wonderful!

You state the Mini will also be one of the goal of this new software. What
about the Rover 75 also developped by BMW??

Thanks


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Message: 3
    Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:46:23 -0500
    From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@...>
Subject: Interfaces

Over on the VAG-COM Group, someone asked:

> the connector in our 96+ cars is the OBD II standard, correct?  so
> what are the chances that BiM-COM will use the same cable as VAG-COM
> (for owners of both makes) ?

96-2000 BMW's use a split diagnostics bus, much like some 2002 Audis.   The
only systems acessible at the OBD-II connector are the ones that are are
required to be accessible to an OBD-II scan-tool -- i.e. engine and auto
trans
(if equipped).   All the other stuff is only accessible at the 20-pin
connector under the hood...:-(

2001+ BMWs have dropped the 20-pin connector, but still have a split
2001+ bus.
Both lines are accessible on the OBD-II connector -- but of course the
second line isn't on the same pin that Audi uses..:-(

95 and earlier BMW's have only a single bus, but that bus has seperate TX
and RX lines, and of course, these cars don't have an OBD-II connector at
all..:-(

Bottom line:  Some additional hardware (or modifications to existing
hardware)
will be required for all BMW's.   But don't worry, we have a plan..:-)

-Uwe-


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    Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:05:16 +0100 (CET)
    From: Nacho <nachitoja@...>
Subject: Hi




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Message: 5
    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:16:02 -0500
    From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@...>
Subject: Goals

A VAG-COM customer asked me privately:

> Hi Uwe
> Just a quick question, the BMW diagnostic software that
> you are doing will it be in depth same as OE BMW tester,
> in other words will it be able to do functions like
> coding ecm's I.E traction control to engine ecm &
> immobiliser to ecm etc.

That's certainly our long-term goal, but it will take considerable time to
achieve.

Let me offer a bit of a comparison between VAG and BMW:

With VAG, once you figure out how to do a particular function (like reading
fault codes) on a particular control module, you've pretty much figured out
how to do it on all other control modules as well.  BMW isn't like that at
all!  Some modules give you one or two bytes of data per fault code, some 10
or more bytes per fault code, including nice-to have stuff like
environmental
conditions, how long ago the fault ocurred, how long it lasted, etc, etc.
To
make matters worse, there's no universal fault code table like there is with
VW -- the fault code texts are also specific to the module.   Live Data is
much the same.   VW has 100+ different data types that you have to figure
out,
but once you one out, it's always the the same in every control module in
every car.   BMW doesn't seem to have any standardization like that.
You've
got to figure out every data type for each familily of modules seperately.
Given that there are almost 400 families of modules, this is a BIG job.

What does this mean?  There's no way that we're going to have a complete
functional replacement for the Modic-3 or GT1 in the near future.   What we
will concentrate on initially is reading and clearing fault codes and
displaying and logging "live data" for the most popular systems in the most
popular cars.   We'll probably start with the stuff in the E46 and R50
chassis
because we examples of those cars.

I expect the initial versions of BiM-COM to have wide appeal among
individual enthusiasts and independent shops who aren't going to spend the
money on an OE
tester to begin with.   However, if you're a heavy duty professional who's
debating buying an OE tester, you should probably do so..  Used Modic-3's
are going for around $7,500 and you can get a brand-new GT1 for only
$15,500..:-)

-Uwe-


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Message: 6
    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:41:24 -0000
    From: "swroc" <swroc@...>
Subject: Release

Hi Uwe,
    Have you any time scale of an initial release, even if it
is 'just' code & reset & data.
Are you thinking of a similar format to VAG-COM, i.e. purchase & free
updates?

Regards
Steve Norman



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Hi Uwe,
    Have you any time scale of an initial release, even if it
is 'just' code & reset & data.
Are you thinking of a similar format to VAG-COM, i.e. purchase & free
updates?

Regards
Steve Norman

A VAG-COM customer asked me privately:

> Hi Uwe
> Just a quick question, the BMW diagnostic software that
> you are doing will it be in depth same as OE BMW tester,
> in other words will it be able to do functions like
> coding ecm's I.E traction control to engine ecm &
> immobiliser to ecm etc.

That's certainly our long-term goal, but it will take considerable time to
achieve.

Let me offer a bit of a comparison between VAG and BMW:

With VAG, once you figure out how to do a particular function (like reading
fault codes) on a particular control module, you've pretty much figured out
how to do it on all other control modules as well.  BMW isn't like that at
all!  Some modules give you one or two bytes of data per fault code, some 10
or more bytes per fault code, including nice-to have stuff like environmental
conditions, how long ago the fault ocurred, how long it lasted, etc, etc.   To
make matters worse, there's no universal fault code table like there is with
VW -- the fault code texts are also specific to the module.   Live Data is
much the same.   VW has 100+ different data types that you have to figure out,
but once you one out, it's always the the same in every control module in
every car.   BMW doesn't seem to have any standardization like that.   You've
got to figure out every data type for each familily of modules seperately.
Given that there are almost 400 families of modules, this is a BIG job.

What does this mean?  There's no way that we're going to have a complete
functional replacement for the Modic-3 or GT1 in the near future.   What we
will concentrate on initially is reading and clearing fault codes and
displaying and logging "live data" for the most popular systems in the most
popular cars.   We'll probably start with the stuff in the E46 and R50 chassis
because we examples of those cars.

I expect the initial versions of BiM-COM to have wide appeal among individual
enthusiasts and independent shops who aren't going to spend the money on an OE
tester to begin with.   However, if you're a heavy duty professional who's
debating buying an OE tester, you should probably do so..  Used Modic-3's are
going for around $7,500 and you can get a brand-new GT1 for only $15,500..:-)

-Uwe-

Over on the VAG-COM Group, someone asked:

> the connector in our 96+ cars is the OBD II standard,
> correct?  so what are the chances that BiM-COM will
> use the same cable as VAG-COM (for owners of both makes) ?

96-2000 BMW's use a split diagnostics bus, much like some 2002 Audis.   The
only systems acessible at the OBD-II connector are the ones that are are
required to be accessible to an OBD-II scan-tool -- i.e. engine and auto trans
(if equipped).   All the other stuff is only accessible at the 20-pin
connector under the hood...:-(

2001+ BMWs have dropped the 20-pin connector, but still have a split bus.
Both lines are accessible on the OBD-II connector -- but of course the second
line isn't on the same pin that Audi uses..:-(

95 and earlier BMW's have only a single bus, but that bus has seperate TX and
RX lines, and of course, these cars don't have an OBD-II connector at all..:-(

Bottom line:  Some additional hardware (or modifications to existing hardware)
will be required for all BMW's.   But don't worry, we have a plan..:-)

-Uwe-

Hi All,
This post is really directed at Uwe.

The original release:
What is planned to be covered?
Currently I use AutoDiagnos MTP on these and it's quite good.
However, it doesn't cover the Light Control Module or any Programming
of PCM's or EWS. Also, some later systems are not covered (usually
introduced 2000>)

CarSoft claim to cover:
DME/DDE
ABS/ASC/DSC
AirBag/SRS
AirCon*
BC/MID* (On Board Computer/Multi Info Display)
Instrument Cluster*
DWA (Alarm)*
LKM/CCM* (Light Control Module)
ZKE/ZVM (Body Systems)
EGS (AutoBox)
EWS (Immobiliser)
Park Distance Control*
Service Reset (<2000)

Items marked * are currently not covered by AutoDiagnos ProLine.
Actuator Tests and EWS-DME/DDE Syncronisation are not covered either
by AD.

Is it going to be the same type of standard as Vag-Com (i.e.
practically as good as the dealer tool)?

Dealing with the leads - will you be supplying a 20 pin lead? Or will
it be possible to get it to work with, say, the AD lead I have? Vag-
Com will work with the AD lead I have for VAG (in addition to the one
supplied by Ross-Tech). A 16pin socket was used in Europe from
approx. mid 2000>

Hoping to get the ball rolling...
Eddie Ronayne.