me too
--- In BiM-COM@yahoogroups.com, "Tim locke" <timlocke@l...> wrote:
> I bought an early Vag-COM in summer 2000 for my A4 and now, just
in time
> as the A4 goes in a couple of months for a 330xi I'll be after a
fresh new
> BMW-COM and cable as soon as available.
>
> For me, fault codes and simple things that an owner would want will
be
> perfect.
>
> Great.
>
> Tim Locke
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> There are 6 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. Getting Started
> From: "eddierocket_2000" <rocket@i...>
> 2. Fw: Rover?
> From: Sébastien Delgrande <sdelgran@w...>
> 3. Interfaces
> From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@R...>
> 4. Hi
> From: Nacho <nachitoja@y...>
> 5. Goals
> From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@R...>
> 6. Release
> From: "swroc" <swroc@h...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:22:16 -0000
> From: "eddierocket_2000" <rocket@i...>
> Subject: Getting Started
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> Hi All,
> This post is really directed at Uwe.
>
> The original release:
> What is planned to be covered?
> Currently I use AutoDiagnos MTP on these and it's quite good.
> However, it doesn't cover the Light Control Module or any
Programming
> of PCM's or EWS. Also, some later systems are not covered (usually
> introduced 2000>)
>
> CarSoft claim to cover:
> DME/DDE
> ABS/ASC/DSC
> AirBag/SRS
> AirCon*
> BC/MID* (On Board Computer/Multi Info Display)
> Instrument Cluster*
> DWA (Alarm)*
> LKM/CCM* (Light Control Module)
> ZKE/ZVM (Body Systems)
> EGS (AutoBox)
> EWS (Immobiliser)
> Park Distance Control*
> Service Reset (<2000)
>
> Items marked * are currently not covered by AutoDiagnos ProLine.
> Actuator Tests and EWS-DME/DDE Syncronisation are not covered
either
> by AD.
>
> Is it going to be the same type of standard as Vag-Com (i.e.
> practically as good as the dealer tool)?
>
> Dealing with the leads - will you be supplying a 20 pin lead? Or
will
> it be possible to get it to work with, say, the AD lead I have? Vag-
Com
> will work with the AD lead I have for VAG (in addition to the one
> supplied by Ross-Tech). A 16pin socket was used in Europe from
> approx. mid 2000>
>
> Hoping to get the ball rolling...
> Eddie Ronayne.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:40:10 +0100
> From: Sébastien Delgrande <sdelgran@w...>
> Subject: Fw: Rover?
>
> First of all: Thank you Uwe (and the rest of the Ross-tech team) for
> considering BMW as your next challenge! This is wonderful!
>
> You state the Mini will also be one of the goal of this new
software. What
> about the Rover 75 also developped by BMW??
>
> Thanks
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:46:23 -0500
> From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@R...>
> Subject: Interfaces
>
> Over on the VAG-COM Group, someone asked:
>
> > the connector in our 96+ cars is the OBD II standard, correct?
so
> > what are the chances that BiM-COM will use the same cable as VAG-
COM
> > (for owners of both makes) ?
>
> 96-2000 BMW's use a split diagnostics bus, much like some 2002
Audis. The
> only systems acessible at the OBD-II connector are the ones that
are are
> required to be accessible to an OBD-II scan-tool -- i.e. engine and
auto
> trans
> (if equipped). All the other stuff is only accessible at the 20-
pin
> connector under the hood...:-(
>
> 2001+ BMWs have dropped the 20-pin connector, but still have a
split
> 2001+ bus.
> Both lines are accessible on the OBD-II connector -- but of course
the
> second line isn't on the same pin that Audi uses..:-(
>
> 95 and earlier BMW's have only a single bus, but that bus has
seperate TX
> and RX lines, and of course, these cars don't have an OBD-II
connector at
> all..:-(
>
> Bottom line: Some additional hardware (or modifications to existing
> hardware)
> will be required for all BMW's. But don't worry, we have a
plan..:-)
>
> -Uwe-
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:05:16 +0100 (CET)
> From: Nacho <nachitoja@y...>
> Subject: Hi
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:16:02 -0500
> From: Uwe Ross <Uwe@R...>
> Subject: Goals
>
> A VAG-COM customer asked me privately:
>
> > Hi Uwe
> > Just a quick question, the BMW diagnostic software that
> > you are doing will it be in depth same as OE BMW tester,
> > in other words will it be able to do functions like
> > coding ecm's I.E traction control to engine ecm &
> > immobiliser to ecm etc.
>
> That's certainly our long-term goal, but it will take considerable
time to
> achieve.
>
> Let me offer a bit of a comparison between VAG and BMW:
>
> With VAG, once you figure out how to do a particular function (like
reading
> fault codes) on a particular control module, you've pretty much
figured out
> how to do it on all other control modules as well. BMW isn't like
that at
> all! Some modules give you one or two bytes of data per fault
code, some 10
> or more bytes per fault code, including nice-to have stuff like
> environmental
> conditions, how long ago the fault ocurred, how long it lasted,
etc, etc.
> To
> make matters worse, there's no universal fault code table like
there is with
> VW -- the fault code texts are also specific to the module. Live
Data is
> much the same. VW has 100+ different data types that you have to
figure
> out,
> but once you one out, it's always the the same in every control
module in
> every car. BMW doesn't seem to have any standardization like that.
> You've
> got to figure out every data type for each familily of modules
seperately.
> Given that there are almost 400 families of modules, this is a BIG
job.
>
> What does this mean? There's no way that we're going to have a
complete
> functional replacement for the Modic-3 or GT1 in the near future.
What we
> will concentrate on initially is reading and clearing fault codes
and
> displaying and logging "live data" for the most popular systems in
the most
> popular cars. We'll probably start with the stuff in the E46 and
R50
> chassis
> because we examples of those cars.
>
> I expect the initial versions of BiM-COM to have wide appeal among
> individual enthusiasts and independent shops who aren't going to
spend the
> money on an OE
> tester to begin with. However, if you're a heavy duty
professional who's
> debating buying an OE tester, you should probably do so.. Used
Modic-3's
> are going for around $7,500 and you can get a brand-new GT1 for only
> $15,500..:-)
>
> -Uwe-
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:41:24 -0000
> From: "swroc" <swroc@h...>
> Subject: Release
>
> Hi Uwe,
> Have you any time scale of an initial release, even if it
> is 'just' code & reset & data.
> Are you thinking of a similar format to VAG-COM, i.e. purchase &
free
> updates?
>
> Regards
> Steve Norman
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