I should add that biofuels can also be reformed into hydrogen, though the energy balance is greatly affected by the methods used to produce the biofuels. This approach may or may not be net positive.
Bruce Crowder
http://www.ctenergyblog.com
Bruce Crowder
http://www.ctenergyblog.com
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Steve Spence <steve@...> wrote:
how about a butanol powered gasoline engine, or electric hybrid.
on board "hydrogen" generation is a non-starter, as it takes more power
to make the hydrogen than it contains, leading to more fuel consumption.
joe cells are examples of bogus marketing claims. nothing more special
than simple electrolysis.
Steve Spence
Renewable energy and self sufficiency
http://www.green-trust.org
http://makingthewebwork.blogspot.com/
foreverburningphoenix wrote:
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>> yes steve,> <mailto:AltFuelVehicles-CT%40yahoogroups.com>, Steve Spence <steve@...>
> Maybe I am going the wrong direction there, but a good friend of mine
> has an allergy to soy as well as certain other beans. Whenever a
> vegetable powered vehicle drives by she can't breathe so I would prefer
> a more hospitable alternative if you would like to offer advice to point
> me in the right direction it would be much appreciated
> thanks,
> wes
> --- In AltFuelVehicles-CT@yahoogroups.com>> http://www.green-trust.org <http://www.green-trust.org>
> wrote:
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>> joe cell? roflmao
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>> Steve Spence
>> Renewable energy and self sufficiency
>> http://makingthewebwork.blogspot.com/
> <http://makingthewebwork.blogspot.com/>
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>> foreverburningphoenix wrote:
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>> > Okay at this point in my research everything is still in the
>> > hypothetical phase but I will try my best to list off what might work...
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>> > A modified Bourke engine with two direct injection fuel ports per
>> > cylinder - each cylinder getting a dose of diesel and hydrogen/oxygen
>> > why diesel and oxygen?
>> > a. diesel for the autoignition and hydrogen to compliment the diesel as
>> > well as reduce unburnt fuel
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>> > hydrogen being produced on board by a cell similar i guess to the joe
>> > cell with the exception of using Ag for the anode instead of 316 steel
>> > or something
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>> > do you guys think this would work?
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>> > thanks,
>> > wes
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