Saturn was always with GM. They were never seperate. GM needed a vehical
line that was cheap to the customers but could compete with imports. They
went with Toyota to the drawing board since Toyota was doing good in that
market. Plus a few GM and Toyota vehicals were being made at the same plant
at the time. So in the early 80's Saturn name plate was made. Saturn is
know today as a People Friendly line who is comitted to customer
satification.


----- Original Message -----
From: "davidtoste" <davidtoste@...>
To: <Alero@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Alero] Alero Quality Shows Tru Again....


> And this is why I'm unloading the Alero.
> It was fine, up until recently. It's one problem as another! and I just
> can't take it anymore.
>
> ##Sensors are always indicating my wheels are slipping, (Dealer says he
> can't find anything wrong)
> ##Hazard light button went flying into the dash. ( I fixed it)
> ##The over head light keeps falling out of place. (I keep fixing it)
> ##The extra cig lighter in the passengers side keeps coming out of it's
> hole. (I glued it)
> ##Coolant keeps disappearing, I have to keep refilling it. (has been taken
> in and the gasket was replaced,
> still the coolant keeps disappearing)
> ## Oil leak, keeps coming and going.
> ##Fuel econo just sucked! Seems like I was getting 19L City and 12L
Hwy(per
> 100Km). Of course the dealer couldn't
> find anything. I sure did in my pocket book.
>
> The car is a 3.4L '99, with 93,000Km on it. It's just becoming to much to
> handle and all of this stuff
> above has started to happen in the past few weeks/months.
>
> I'm now getting my first import, a 2004 Toyota Sienna. I've spend alot
more
> then I ever did with the Alero
> doing research and I think I've found a winner, quality and reliable,
based
> on past history for the Sienna's/
>
> I still have my first car, a 1992 Saturn SC2, that thing has been rock
> solid. I've now got 255,000 Km on it,
> with the factory clutch(manual trans), the engine has never been touched.
> I'm driving this baby to it's grave.
> I know Saturn is part of GM, but at the time I bought it was still a
> separate company.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce" <01camaro@...>
> To: <Alero@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [Alero] Alero Quality Shows Tru Again....
>
>
> Faster & cheaper. Of course! That should be GM's slogan. And
> they hope that buyers wont catch onto this via slick marketing, huge
> rebates and huge incentives.
>
>
>
> I wonder if Henry Ford thought about this when he invented the assembly
> line....
>
>
>
>
>
> bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Klein [mailto:dmklein@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:38 PM
> To: Alero@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Alero] Alero Quality Shows Tru Again....
>
>
>
> I had an interesting conversation with a fellow in the body shop at the
> GM dealership. When I told him I'm disappointed with the quality of the
> car, ie. the water leaks, peeling paint, etc I was amazed at his reply.
> He actually admitted that there's a quality difference between domestics
> and imports, and he said GM's approach is to build cars fast and cheap
> and fix them later, while imports tend to spend more time on quality at
> the start. He also told me he drives a Honda and will never buy a GM
> car. I appreciated his honesty, it was quite something to hear a GM
> employee saying these things.....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce
> To: Alero@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [Alero] Alero Quality Shows Tru Again....
>
>
> That sounds like the Blower Resistor. Many people have complained
> about
> the blower not working on certain speeds. I think there are 2
> resistors
> in the blower motor circuit.
>
>
>
> What really baffles me is that so many people complain about the same
> problem, this board is only a fraction of all the Alero owners; I
> know that GM dealers have to be getting these repair requests all the
> time. Doesn't the company think something is wrong when a large
> number
> of people complain about the same thing? I guess THAT is an indicator
> of how GM cares (or doesn't). How much of a design change would it
> take to redesign the blower resistors or change their location away
> from
> moisture? Not much. Lets see, there is the blower resistor,
> brake
> rotors, water leaks, etc etc the same problems keep popping up
> again
> and again.
>
>
>
> I guess their thinking is that it is cheaper for the dealer to replace
> a
> small part hundreds of times rather than change the design. After
> all,
> if people never visited the service department for warranty repairs
> then
> how would they have a chance to "up sell" more maintenance services?
> LOL LOL
>
>
>
>
>
> bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Holdren [mailto:ritepath@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:17 PM
> To: Alero@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Alero] Alero Quality Shows Tru Again....
>
>
>
> 01 Alero date 64,223
>
> Today the first two levels on the fan switch decided to stop working.
> Still have the last three levels (high, higher, & highest)
>
> No wonder Quality isn't mentioned at GM.
>
> And to think I bought this HOS instead of a used Jetta...What a
> mistake.
>
>
>
>
>
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