hope you guys like my pics. i am restoring a 85 honda 250r yhat i bout
from a salvage yard.

Does anyone on list have one of these. My sister is thinking of buying one and
is asking me the usual questions - I've never looked round one.

I'd be very grateful if someone could give me info on rust problems, maintenance
and the like. I imagine its monocoque construction - where do they go
particularly. What does one do for insurance - are they insured as a classic
limited mileage vehicle or what. What should one be wary of?

many thanks
james
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Thanks!

Hi folks

Apparently these engines suffer from oil getting into the water. This has been
the case with two of these engines in my cars - first the Rebel and now the
Rialto.

When previous owners have not used antifreeze in the water, apparently there is
an oil gallery that tends to get corroded resulting in oil oozing into the
water.

Anyone know exactly where. I've got to take this engine apart and find out
what's going on. The last time I couldn't find anything. It is getting worse!!!

Suggestions much appreciated.

yours
james

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"A toy car is a projection of a real car, made small enough
for a child's hand and imagination to grasp.
A real car is a projection of a toy car, made large enough
for an adult's hand and imagination to grasp."
    - Michael Frayn (British playwright and novelist)

And what about a real car made small enough for an adult's hand
and a child's imagination to grasp?

Clearly explained Tony - much appreciated. I can see now why I have a 'spare'
nozzle on the carb. Thing is - as she has run quite happily for 'sometime'
without a fuel overflow - is it WORTH THE EFFORT to connect it back up again. On
the 5a there isn't overflow but there is on the 6a. It seems it was fitted for
good measure! Not sure where I'm going to get 5/16 hose with an outside small
diameter - perhaps why the PO didn't bother. What do you suggest.

I was considering using one of the holes for a wider pipe and putting a catch
tank the other side of the fibreglass. The expansion bottle Reliant have for the
later Robin is a bit large for the Rialto - I haven't yet seen a smaller
expansion bottle that would suit. I think Maxi's [perhaps Marinas aswell] had
one that would fit in nicely.

As a teacher I was going to do lots of things this holidays but moving has taken
up and another dreaded long term of hard work awaits.

thanks again
james

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Idle" <tony.idle@...>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:24:16 +0100
To: "'James Freer'" <jf-cars@...>
Subject: RE: Rialto 1 - 1983

> James
>
> The small container mounted inside the NS wing area has nothing to do
> with the cooling system. Its job is to contain any fuel that overflows
> from the carb then allow the fuel to be drawn into the engine via the
> carb breather. The connections to it are as follows: a pipe from the
> float chamber overflow connects to the unrestricted (I'll explain that
> in a minute) pipe into the container. The pipe that sticks out of the
> carb at the bottom of the dashpot connects to a "T": one connection from
> the T goes to the restricted connection on the container; the other
> connection from the T goes to the top of the oil filler cap.
>
> Unrestricted/ Restricted: if you remove the container, dismantle it &
> examine the two connections to it one of them is simply an open,
> unrestricted, pipe; the other connection is restricted at the end inside
> the container.
>
> As far as the cooling system is concerned there is no allowance for
> expansion: if you fill the radiator to the brim some water will exit via
> the "overflow" once the engine is up to temperature. This should only
> happen once or twice until the lost coolant has made enough room for
> future expansion - if you look inside the radiator when it has cooled
> down the water level will be 1/2" to 1" below the filler neck. This is
> normal - later cars had an expansion tank to catch the overflow & direct
> it back when the engine cools down. The expansion tank is worth adding
> actually because it improves low-speed heater output dramatically.
>
> If water loss happens every time you run the car it is either
> overheating (but you'd see that on the gauge) or the head gasket is
> leaking (in which case you'd be able to smell exhaust fumes in the
> water. It's more likely that you're seeing the normal expansion overflow
> then topping up - which makes it happen again.
>
> Regards
>
> Tony
>
> RSSOC 2332
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Freer [mailto:jf-cars@...]
> Sent: 04 September 2004 13:30
> To: foxandkitten@yahoogroups.com; Reliantchat@yahoogroups.com;
> Reliantspares@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Rialto 1 - 1983
>
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Hoping someone can give me some info regarding the cooling system.
>
> The overflow from the radiator doesn't have a pipe on it at present.
> Couple of inches away is a cut off piece [well two in fact] of rubber
> pipe that appears to take overflow under the car through the fibreglass
> 'wall' next to the radiator. Getting underneath the car reveals a pipe
> going towards a 'hemispherical pot'(2")- one pipe supplying the other it
> would seem a return.
>
> It would seem this is a catchpot but it is rather small. Be grateful if
> anyone could explain. It would appear to be original but mine is one of
> the early cars - P.O just cut the rubber pipe without much thought it
> would seem. At present my car seems to reject coolant when in traffic
> queues.
>
> thanks
> james
>
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